r/mildlyinfuriating • • 17d ago

I'm slightly vexed A Short En-Suite Story

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u/TheCoolBlondeGirl 17d ago edited 17d ago

When she sees more surface to lay out her things:

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u/Chilli-byte- 17d ago edited 17d ago

"I noticed she put stuff on clear surfaces rather than in storage and the clutter annoys me, so I bought her more storage she's proven not to use with clear surface on top that she then put things on top of, which she's shown is her habit.

"Then, after confirming that she will indeed ignore storage and fill surfaces I proceeded to buy a BIGGER amount of storage, which has proven to be ineffective, and EVEN MORE surface for her to clutter and annoy me with. It truly amazes me, even still " - OP

OP, what you need to buy are baskets, surface organisers or use this as an excuse to buy a 3D printer and print custom storage.

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u/Tut557 17d ago edited 17d ago

I have ADHD and if I can't see something it doesn't exist, I just don't use storage with anything I want to remember to use.

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u/VixKnacks 17d ago

This is the exact reason for this battle in my house 😭 I skipped my meds for four days last week because my husband cleared the kitchen countertop and they just didn't exist anymore

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u/Fun_Pop8118 17d ago

Your comment literally reminded me that I hadn’t taken my meds today đŸ« 

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u/Starfire2313 17d ago

Yeah I knew it was going to be a mistake to put my prescriptions and vitamins in my hallway closet cabinet. I was taking g them every day when I had them on my living room bookshelf but it just looks so cluttered

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u/Accomplished_Cut8474 17d ago

I have a system. I put it all on the counter and then when I take them, I put them back into the cabinet next to the coffee and then each morning I take it back out when I take out my coffee.

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u/MsVindiction 17d ago

I would forget to take them back out đŸ« 

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u/Historical-Mixture60 17d ago

I feel it. I literally have one blister at each place I usually spent time at because if I don’t, chances are high I don’t take them. Even then chances are high I don’t if I forget to refill

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u/Gritsgravy 17d ago

My dog is like the opposite. If he can't see me he thinks I don't see him

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u/splicepark 17d ago

Mine thinks if he’s not touching me he doesn’t exist.

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u/Chilli-byte- 17d ago

I too have adhd and even when I do see things they sometimes don't exist. Things NEED to be out

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u/JeremeyGirl 17d ago

I don't have any diagnosis, but I am also the same. Can't see it, doesn't exist, so I have baskets/trays for daily things and category boxes for when I remember something like a random craft. I can pull a clear box out for a few days/weeks then stash it away again.

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u/Chilli-byte- 17d ago

I recently bought a ton of clear boxes for when we moved house. My partner was confused why I'd spend so much money on boxes, and said we could just use cardboard.

I tried to explain that we can use them for categorising stuff and my endless hobbies. I'll be able to see inside and so it'll be stored away but I won't totally forget about it. They finally agreed.

We have since moved and, in true ADHD fashion, a third of the boxes are still not unpacked, a third are empty because they were filled with valuable decor and such, and the final third are haphazardly semi filled with vague categories.

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u/sashikku 17d ago

Same here. Going through my bathroom cabinets to reorganize is like Christmas. I even have a hanging rack for jewelry because if I don’t see it, I forget I own it, and I don’t wear it. If I’ve been lazy about putting laundry away, the day I finally get it done I magically own cute outfits again.

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u/kaekiro 17d ago

Same. Also, OP, try wall-mounted bins / shelves. That has helped me tremendously. I can still see the crap, but the surfaces are (mostly) clear. What doesn't fit on the shelves gets a pretty lil tray, and then i like to put things on it bc it's pretty.

There's lots of advice on tidying for folks like us. Clutterbug talks about this style and how to organize with it, im sure there are others

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u/Aunt_Llama 17d ago

Same. It goes for the kitchen/pantry/refrigerator big time especially.

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u/spongy_poodle 17d ago edited 17d ago

100% this. As a life-long messy person, meeting halfway is more effective. A bunch of those shallow bamboo boxes in various sizes Tetrised into large bamboo trays keeps things visible but neat. Add a few cosmetics jars for cotton pads and Qtips, and the only things to really put away are the heat styling tools.

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u/Worth-Engineer-611 17d ago

baskets are the way to go.

I have one for my morning routine and one for my night routine.

''oh but what if I use an item for both night and day''
BUY TWO ARE YOU KIDDING ME

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u/Far_Veterinarian9135 17d ago

Open shelving is a way to go. This person wants to see their stuff and easily be able to grab it and not worry about it being horizontal like they might end those shelving cabinet that you bought where when you open it back-and-forth stuff could fall over I get this person.

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u/niseynisey 17d ago

Exactlyyyy. Buy something like these instead

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u/starshine1988 17d ago

As someone who is a mix of both OP and the wife, this wouldn’t work imo. One because the stuff would still look kinda messy if you’re using it for your daily needs— I feel like these only look good for stuff you rarely touch and don’t need to keep neat, like books and curiosities. Two because there’s still a surface on top that I would still make use of as a “oh I’ll drop this hair brush here for now and put it where it’s supposed to go in a minute
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u/SeaworthinessOne1752 17d ago

Im a germaphobe and my husband is an 'organization cleaner'. One day, I had proudly disinfected, scrubbed on my hands/knees our bathroom. One could eat off my floor and bathtub. He came home and asked, 'why is the bathroom a mess'. It took a minute to realize he was referring to the bottle of Nivea lotion and mouthwash on the counter 😳

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u/Appropriate_Car_8221 17d ago

That sounds insufferable to live with

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u/Signal_This 17d ago

Baskets are the answer! Everything you need is in one place and it's incredibly easy to put things back.

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u/ak3000android 17d ago

So what’s the difference between baskets inside shelves and drawers?

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u/sl212190 17d ago

As someone with ADHD, I can't fully articulate it.. But for some reason, having to bend down & rummage around in a drawer vs a basket I can take to wherever I need and keep at standing height makes all the difference. I don't need to keep walking back & forth between, say, the mirror & the drawers each time I need to retrieve an item, I can keep the entire basket with everything necessary next to me the entire time. Small things like this make a difference! I have many baskets & trays around the house haha

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u/ak3000android 17d ago

That is truly an advantage I didn’t think of. Even for people without ADHD, I can see it being better ergonomically.

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u/Signal_This 17d ago

If you choose the right baskets, you can see the contents and can throw stuff back in without having to open anything.

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u/Consistent_Menu_4538 17d ago

I’d hang two floating shelves right here personally.

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u/Wearytaco 17d ago edited 17d ago

As someone with ADHD, I will literally forget I own it if it's not in view. I have to have open shelving. I've been considering getting a mirror to put on the bottom side of my pantry shelves so I can easily see what's behind the other stuff when I open the door to cook because I literally just forget. And in this case, I would forget to put on deodorant or whatever. And I don't think any roommate of mine would want that haha.
Edit: typos

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u/Swimming-Dot9120 17d ago

I actually hate this so much lol. I like having a clear counter, but I know those objects will cease to exist the second they enter the drawer. I made that mistake with my daily medication once lmao. Not great

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u/BishlovesSquish 17d ago

I felt this in my soul. The mirror idea is genius. Need for the back of my fridge too. đŸ« 

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u/Dntlastnt 17d ago

I do too plus if I don’t have them out and organized, I miss a skin care step. I have open, floating shelves that are super pretty.

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u/MeringueMammoth5679 17d ago

That bathroom is so large for just a tiny pedestal sink

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u/NoMention696 17d ago

That whole wall is begging to be turned into a countertop sink

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u/trashl3y3 17d ago

At least a vanity next to it would be an upgrade too

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u/robinthebank 17d ago

On the right side could easily be a vanity with a chair and mirror. And for stuff that sits out, OP can get a tray or basket that sits on the vanity. Then the items are “out” but also “away” at the same time.

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u/fleetiebelle 17d ago edited 17d ago

I just noticed the little tiny mirror propped up against the window. That bathroom is big enough and needs counterspace, a real mirror, and good lighting. Not to be sexist, but no woman was involved in designing that space.

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 17d ago

There wasn't even anywhere to keep extra rolls of toilet paper, or other totally normal bathroom stuff.

It was a completely non-functional space. And I'm a guy. 

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u/HSLB66 17d ago

The extra rolls go in the hall closet so you can have the whimsical experience of sprinting through the house with a brown butthole 

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u/Antisirch 17d ago

This is the part that’s mildly infuriating to me. No sane person puts a bathroom sink in front of a window without an actual mirror
and not an outlet to be found anywhere 😂

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u/addictedtoVANS 17d ago

Based on the Boots- and Superdrug-branded products, I’d say this is a bathroom in the UK (or possibly Ireland)—we don’t have sockets in bathrooms unless they’re the low-wattage shaver-type sockets. There are exceptions, but it’d have to be an exceptionally big bathroom as the sockets can’t be within 3m of a bath or shower.

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u/Horns8585 17d ago

Yeah, that space definitely needs some type of vanity. It would look better and it would help alleviate the issue of where to put things.

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u/BronzeTrain 17d ago

The reason the items are all on top of the counter is because they are easier to get to there. It's a pain to bend down to grab stuff. So what you need is a shelf or a cabinet with a door. Place it at a convenient height where it's easy for her to reach. Then remove the drawers so she's not tempted to just put stuff on the top of them.

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u/Koffeepotx 17d ago

Or maybe shes like me and she prefers when she can see everything in front of her. I keep forgetting what stuff I own if I cant see it. Some shelves or a cabinet where everything is in sight might help. Maybe a rotating tray so things at the back are easier to grab

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u/wirhns 17d ago

I hate that. Two months later I open the cabinet - oh shit! This face wash or moisturizer or something I forgot existed.

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u/digitalgraffiti-ca 17d ago

I don't have ADHD. Just stating because everyone else is stating that they do.

What I am/was a messy person. I didn't out stuff away because I couldn't be bothered

I agree with the ADHD people. This isn't messy. I know messy. These things are sort of organized, clean, tidy. There aren't used makeup wipes and random brushes lying all over. There aren't open palettes and hairspray caps everywhere.

This is visibility. Object permanence.

Someone suggested shelves. Try clear faces on the drawers. Some clear acrylic organizer boxes for the tops of the surfaces. She's probably never going to have an empty Spartan area, but meet her where she is to keep things organized in a way that first make you nuts. Also, hooks for styling tools will make that part less messy.

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u/KateWaiting326 17d ago

Same here. I'm either just a messy person or have undiagnosed ADHD. Nothing there is dirty. It's just a lot of different products with different uses. Get plastic/acrylic bins or baskets that are about half the height of the products. Everything will still be easily accessible, but it will be contained to its own area

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 17d ago

This is messy in the way your mom would say it's messy and then "put things away" and now you can't find them because they aren't where you left them

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u/LividAtmosphere7535 17d ago

I’m a messy person and this is pretty well clean and organized to me

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u/fuzzpops 17d ago

that sink for this bathroom is criminal

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u/diane_nu_nu_nguyen 17d ago

The entire bathroom is criminal. No mirror?? Demolish the entire thing and start over

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u/alison_bee 17d ago edited 17d ago

Tl;dr - y’all need to talk lol. But I think some simple communication between the 2 of you can fix this!

I understand this is mildly infuriating for you, but I imagine your solutions are equally infuriating for her.

Clearly she likes to be able to see the things and grab them.

And also, you bought her storage that isn’t easily accessible for the products she has. Most of her products are tall and require standing up. The storage you bought has short drawers where things would have to lay down.

So with this storage she can’t see the items (which she clearly wants/needs to be able to see them), and she has to store them “improperly” (many items like that work best when standing up; some also will leak if laid on their sides).

Did she have a say in the items you purchased?

And if not, has she been able to communicate that the type of storage you purchased is the reason she continues to put things on top?

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u/atlasofreality 17d ago

Exactly, I can see his partner thinking, "Well, this kind of works...these don't fit but I guess they can go on top... man this drawer is so low, I don't want to pull stuff out of that every day..."

Like, does OP keep his shower stuff in a drawer, or easily visible and accessible? If the latter, he should understand how frustrating his "solutions" could be.

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u/alchemycraftsman 17d ago

And “oh my back!!!” This is always my complaint. No I don’t want to bend over or squat to get my deodorant every day multiple times a day.

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u/open-print 17d ago

Did she have a say in the items you purchased?

There it is. Girl just needs shelves, that's all.

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u/Mauldun 17d ago

came to say this
I am a person who needs to see it for it to exist, none of my storage hides things away. A partner who needs everything hidden away and one who needs their stuff visible is the sort of death by a thousand cuts compatibility stuff that people never think about but is way more important than it seems

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u/sanyochan PURPLE 17d ago

Exactly *nodding intensifies *

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u/_TP2_ 17d ago

Also opening shelve doors with product in your hands or wet hands sucks.

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u/alison_bee 17d ago

And these are things that guys/people who don’t have skin routines don’t think about, so I don’t fault OP for not knowing to consider that.

But I do kinda fault him for not asking her about types of storage (if he bought without asking - hasn’t been confirmed yet)

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u/TheSeaThread 17d ago

It's unclear whether you said out loud that you're bothered by having the items in view. If not, she might not realize that's the problem you're trying to solve.

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u/drp2hrd 17d ago

If it’s stuff you use often, it’s annoying to dig thru a drawer for it everyday. What you need are shelves + baskets.

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u/WelshBathBoy 17d ago

Get rid of both, replace with this

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u/NibblesMcGiblet 17d ago edited 17d ago

Diabolical. I love it. Also, I'm "her" (not OP's her, but the person who wants things easily accessible on top of storage containers, especially if they're shaped to "stand up" and not lay down in a drawer. This would solve that problem whether I liked it or not). Prepare for one door to always be open though.

edited to add - seriously though, It's just a pain to have to get out five products for a twice-daily five step routine and set them all up in order when your face is going to be covered in stuff and eyes sometimes partially opened or even closed, be reaching to grab something by the feel of the container, have to open them with hands covered in product, etc etc. Just easier to have it set out and accessible (versus lying in a drawer in a pile). A shelf is going to work a lot better for both of you than a drawer.

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u/Sudden-Flower-9999 17d ago

Object constancy—as someone with ADHD, I have to see something to remember to do it—having things out on the counter or open shelving is a must for me.

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u/Bubbly_Delivery_5678 17d ago

Honestly, she needs some surface to be able to set her things while doing hair & makeup
 but she needs to learn to put them away when done. I think there may be a communication gap here.

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u/ninjakitty117 17d ago

My ex wife has adhd and while our bathroom didn't look like this, the rest of our house did. If she couldn't see it, it did not exist. She also loved minimalist furniture but did NOT live a minimalist life.The living room floor became the place to store things (Then she got mad at me that I didn't help clean).

But that said, there are solutions as long as the person is willing to work with you. My current partner also has adhd, but uses labels and clear bins for everything.

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u/Budget_University_56 17d ago

“If she couldn’t see it, it did not exist.” My SO has gotten a lot better over the last few years, thank goodness.

There was a time I had no idea that needing to see piles was his system and I’d say something like ‘we’re not tossing it, it’s just going in the drawer of the thing it’s sitting on’. Eventually I learned there was no difference in his mind, drawers and boxes may as well have been teleportation devices. I’ll never fully comprehend it.

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u/janedeedee 17d ago edited 17d ago

Clear bins are a godsend. As are labels. See my cupboard for reference.

It's an ADHD thing for sure. It's called prompted and unprompted recall. Our brains are really bad at unprompted recall (remembering things with no connection to what we are currently seeing or doing) we have excellent prompted recall which means if we are seeing, doing, or talking about something, all connections to that thing are available to our minds. Eg. See medication=take medication, see pencil crayons= oh I need to finish drawing my gift for Dad, see keys= oh I left my iPad in the car THATs where it is.

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u/huumluuv 17d ago

for a girl doing her hair and makeup this would be a nightmare. opening extra containers and putting them back during a time that is typically rushed. i don’t think this is a good bathroom solution lol. i agree it’s wise in the kitchen and pantry though!

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u/CosmicMeowing 17d ago

Or a cabinet that she can open and close. The surface can be in the cabinet. I have an Ikea pax wardrobe and a part of it is my vanity. I can just close the door on it when I’m done.

Similar to this photo tho this one is just off of the internet

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u/Hita-san-chan 17d ago

...i use the cat tree cause i can drag it to the bathroom door and put it back when its done.

But id be in big trouble if i didnt move it back, so thats good motivation.

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u/Fabulous-Educator447 17d ago

You know, this is brilliant.

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u/tgt305 17d ago

You can’t marry a cabinet

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u/TacoDoc2 17d ago

have you tried communication?

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u/HouseofFeathers 17d ago

This is like my husband throwing clothes next to the hamper. So I've arranged it so his hamper is between the wall and the bed. Now I don't have to see it. I didn't like how he had piles of clean, unfolded clothes. So I've given him bins to put them in. You can't change every behavior your spouce has, but you can modify the environment.

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u/Throwing_Old_People 17d ago

My husband does that and then was complaining he was out of socks yesterday. I told him that laundry was caught up, but he must have put his socks elsewhere except in the hamper so they got left out of the load. I have a bad back and am tired of looking for socks all around it and throwing them into it. The hamper is right there in his reach

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u/HouseofFeathers 17d ago

I straight up stopped doing his laundry years ago. Picking his clothes off the floor was causing fights. I'm much happier now.

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u/Palanki96 17d ago

Seems like you don't really understand the problem you are trying to solve

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u/Xayahbetes 17d ago

My darling allow me to explain how some of us think.

Why would I stuff something that I use every day into a cupboard? This adds extra hassle to my day to day, I need to open the cupboard and close it again. Much more efficient to just place it on a shelf!

I understand it's the visual clutter that bothers you, and I feel for you. This is where talking to your partner is key. Could you meet in the middle? Maybe a basket on top of the cupboards, so it's organised chaos? Basket inside the cupboard, so the chaos is easy to take out and put back?

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u/Swimming_Eggplant573 17d ago

Exactly, all my things are out. And this is why we buy things like the below, we need to see our products.

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u/fizzan141 17d ago

Exactly!! The reason they sell so many storage solutions like this is that this is the best way for many of us to store products that we use every day. I have a solution like the one in your picture, and it's perfect.

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u/BagelTrollop 17d ago

Exactly. Buy that girl some baskets. Not more drawers

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u/februarytide- 17d ago

This is the answer. OP employed a solution that doesn’t account for actual habits. We used to have the laundry basket in our bedroom because we liked having it away, out of sight. 
.thjng is, we get changed in the bathroom for a shower. So there was just a pile of clothes in the bathroom all the time.

Design your systems around how you ACTUALLY live, not how you ideally live.

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u/KenzParkin 17d ago

My first question on seeing these photos was, “Did you talk to your partner about what would work or did you just keep buying things you wanted her to make work despite all evidence that they wouldn’t?”

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u/bravokm 17d ago

The new drawers and cabinets don’t seem like the best option for beauty products either. They tip over when you open and close the drawer and the hair tools look like they would barely fit in that other cabinet.

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u/oktimeforplanz 17d ago

This is why all my make-up, haircare (including straighteners) and skincare is on a trolley. I can wheel the trolley around to where I need it at any time.

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u/antique_velveteen 17d ago

Seriously I'm not putting products i use every day in a drawer. It causes extra steps and as dumb as it sounds, those extra steps MATTER. Trying to get ready for work to commute and then getting ready for bed is hard enough when my brain already sees all the extra things it has to do simply to get from point a to point b.

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u/PossibleSatisfaction 17d ago

Its because the storage doesnt match the need. Its mostly bottles, you need adjustable shelves not just drawers. There is no counter space to set anything when using the sink. Storage looks too short, too far to grab things from them when at sink/mirror. Then default dumping ground becomes the window.

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u/minkamagic 17d ago

She wants to be able to See her items. Get her open baskets she can organize with.

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u/MacaroonSad8860 17d ago

I need my stuff in sight. Get some baskets or pretty bamboo boxes to keep stuff contained so it doesn’t fall over?

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u/somesignificantotter 17d ago

This bathroom is a travesty and it's not because of her stuff.

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u/Jmfroggie 17d ago

SHE NEEDS OPEN SHELVES! Stop trying to hide her stuff from her!

Your picture story is funny, but in real life you need to work with what you’ve got! She clearly needs to be able to see her stuff so she knows what she has and where it is.

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u/wawawawawhy 17d ago

The answer from the get go was a little basket, you don't break a habit by buying more furniture, give the items a place to land where they already go

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u/capitalbk 17d ago

If I was her I would be wildly infuriated with the lack of countertop space in this bathroom.

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u/TightDistribution893 17d ago

I think you might need to accept that your girlfriend needs to SEE her stuff to remember it exists. My husband is the same way because his side of our bathroom counter always looks cluttered (and I swear he expands or contracts to fill the space) BUT it’s the way he needs it to remember to use his things. It’s annoying but it’s part of loving someone.

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u/BlueHeron0_0 17d ago

Do people actually consider first photo to be a mess?

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u/Beautiful-Head5563 17d ago

I didn't think it was a mess it was one used bottle of serum, makeup wipes she probably uses so regularly that putting it away makes no sense and a candle and some perfumes which in hindsight perhaps shouldn't be there because it degrades the fragrance but it seems to be things she uses so often that then being put away wouldn't work for her.

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u/Ok-Faithlessness496 GREEN 17d ago

Some weirdos think any evidence that a human lives in a space is a mess.

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u/BlisseyBrat start caring about what other people think 17d ago

My sister. I don't get it. It makes me anxious. Like girl your apartment is gorgeous but I feel like I'm trespassing on somebody's Pinterest board

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u/Own_Possibility_511 17d ago

You should have bought a taller storage cabinet with interior SHELVES and doors that close so you can’t see the mess on the shelves.
Drawers are not very convenient for the products she has.

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u/Mountain_Event1674 17d ago

I will bet everything a have, every dollar and my life. That that bathroom was designed by a man.

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u/Captain_Desi_Pants 17d ago

Yeah that bathroom sucks ass. Where do you keep extra towels? Band-aids? Any of the many items people keep in the bathroom? Pedestal sinks are diabolical.

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u/imc-onfused 17d ago

She put them perfectly at arms reach. Think about that. The drawers and cabinets don’t meet that. Maybe an open shelf that reaches that height. Then she’ll have the things she uses most on the shelves next to her arms, and her lesser used products will be lower or higher.

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u/No-Butterscotch-6555 17d ago

Get some small counter shelving/racks to go on the windowsill to make it look more presentable while still being visible

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u/Comprehensive-Hat708 17d ago

Dear lord just get some shelves or something, I'm not getting on my hands and knees just to grab products I use everyday.

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u/peachcobbler5 17d ago

Mama u need a shelf not cabinets!!!

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u/Heavy_Abroad_8074 17d ago

does she have ADHD? i have ADHD and one thing i experience is that because my short term memory is impaired, i leave things out in visible locations so i remember they exist in the first place. to people without ADHD, we look insane and messy, but i promise it has a purpose. if she’s your daughter, then it’s worth considering

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u/ramapyjamadingdong 17d ago

My husband is always hiding my snacks or, as he puts it, putting them on the snacks shelf in the pantry

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u/biscuitboi967 17d ago

Husband wonders why we have 5 of everything.

It’s because if I can’t see it, it doesn’t exist.

Bins and drawers and cupboards might as well be the Bermuda Triangle. I have no recollection of putting things there, much less which one I put it in, but it made sense when I did it.

So I buy another.

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u/beyond_undone 17d ago

Omg, I’m almost 40 & never connected my ADHD being the reason why I do this
 my husband calls them my troll piles đŸ€Ł

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u/Joubachi 17d ago

Boxes and Baskets.

Instead of giving her more surfaces to put stuff on, organize the surface with the help of open boxes or baskets. Stuff will still find its way on the surface but it will look a lot tidier.

I'm like that as well ans baskets are my only way to escape the visual clutter.

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u/Realistic-Salad321 17d ago

As an ADHD person what about getting her a nice basket or bin for these things? It would keep them contained and could have a lid to hide it. She move the basket around if needed too, like moving it to a closet, then to the bathroom when it’s time to do her makeup or skin routines.

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u/Alanna_Cerene 17d ago edited 17d ago

I'm very happy to see all the comments suggesting alternative solutions. It seems clear to me you were looking for more of a "yeah she's super annoying bro" mentality. Alas, the overwhelming opinion is that you're only halfway to a solution and you should obtain open top baskets or clear storage. Work WITH your partner instead of trying to change her.

(edited to add, I went to see your post history and your only two responses to this entire post confirms my suspicion that were you only looking for people to agree that your girlfriend is the problem. She is not. You certainly are.)

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u/lightbeamss 17d ago

Well, a lot of context is missing, but assessing it vaguely, looks like you set yourself up for disappointment on this one. None of these seem to be practical solutions for her stuff, drawers are too small and not easy to access. You could have taken the measurements better, and done a bit more research on organizing cabinets more efficiently to find a better suited solution together with her.

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u/crystalstairs 17d ago

Also liquids in drawers is impractical: they will bobble and topple as drawers open and shut.

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u/-XanderCrews- 17d ago

Shelves dummy. She isn’t going to put them in a spot she can’t see them. So change your strategy.

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u/dotnsk 17d ago

The answer isn’t more cabinets, it’s baskets.

At worst, your wife will need the baskets to be on top of a surface so it’s visible. That’s fine, it will still visually contain the clutter that’s so triggering to you. This is my husband — he needs to see it to be able to use it, though I have managed to get some things (toothpaste, deodorant) in a cabinet.

At best, she’ll now be able to actually USE all the cabinets you bought because she has purpose-built containers for her routine. This is me — I was leaving skincare and makeup out, but it was only because putting it all away in a drawer and then individually taking it out again was so cumbersome. I assembled two baskets — one for ALL my skincare, one for all of my everyday makeup — so now I’m taking out one thing and putting back one thing.

Her brain works differently from yours, and it’s going to be a struggle for both of you to adapt to each other. The more you can BOTH meet in the middle (which is never the exact middle), the happier you BOTH will be.

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u/juliewbb 17d ago

It’s just annoying to put the things you use daily all the way away to get them back out again the next day. I suggest some nice visible storage. I got one of those little rotating triple tiered shelf things and I put my daily use items on it. It looks put together because it’s on the little shelf, but it’s still easily accessible for everyday use.

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u/WeAreTheMisfits 17d ago

Some people need to have everything visible in order to function. Some people need to have everything hidden in order to function. These are two opposing organizing styles.

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u/vveyaa 17d ago

Get her a basket. For me personally I need to have my stuff sitting out in front of me so I don’t forget have it and also makes it easier for me to take care of myself the way I want to and beat executive dysfunction (having to search thru and pull out what I wanna use every time I get ready is exhausting for my brain). I keep a small basket with all my essentials out on the counter so I can see/easily grab whatever I need when I need it and easily put it away, keeps the clutter down!
Also, just talk to her abt the fact that it’s bugging you. If you haven’t already, then she probably has no idea. Maybe just bring up the idea of getting a basket for her stuff to keep the clutter down and counter clear and see what she thinks

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u/PreferenceBig1531 17d ago

Open shelves are definitely the answer. It’s a PITA to take things out of drawers you use daily, and I would imagine for a woman, doubly so (because they usually have more items they use anyways).

Have always had open shelves in our bathroom
 I imagine it would look similar to this if we didn’t.

Nice gesture, but flawed execution.

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u/considerlilies 17d ago

the real infuriating thing here is the design of that bathroom. whyyyyyy is there so much open space and ZERO counter space/storage!

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u/Secure-Pattern-3183 17d ago

Put glass doors or take the doors off, and see if that changes. I forget ab my stuff if I can't see it, so I buy another one. My spare hairspray has spare hairspray.

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u/AdTop4231 17d ago

She needs something like this on top of the shelves for her everyday items. Then they will have a place to be both organized and seen. This one is from Walmart

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u/NerdGuy13 17d ago

This is why adding lanes to l roads doesn't reduce traffic- it just adds more traffic to fill in the free space. 😂

Take the SimCity approach and replace all roads with subways and trains the people will be unhappy due to the lack of roads but pollution and congestion will drop considerably! (Put in tall storage cabinet or two and put storage bins on top to deter putting things messily on top) 😉

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u/MentallyPsycho 17d ago

For me, personally, I have ADHD and that means if I can't see my things, I forget I have them. Yes, seriously. Now I have no idea what this girl's deal is, but she may have a similar problem. Just saying.

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u/amdaly10 17d ago

If I put food away in a cupboard I will never touch it and I will just throw it away in 2 years. I have to store all my food on the counter or in the fridge. Or better yet in the bag I brought it home in on the kitchen floor.

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u/durkbot 17d ago

I bulk bought my deodorant online because it's cheaper than buying 1 at a time. Got 1 out to use, put the rest in a cupboard, then bought a new one from the drugstore when the 1st ran out etc. until 6 months later when my partner found them all (along with the bulk-bought shower gel I'd ordered at the same time and also promptly forgot about)

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u/jamaismieux 17d ago

Im not sure if I have ADHD but I am definitely on that train, out of sight out of mind.

I ended up getting a nice tray to set my daily essentials on so it at least looks like a collection. I also pile things and have bags of stuff to deal with “later”.

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u/Old-Satisfaction1090 17d ago

As a girlypop who does this aswell, let me tell you: It's not about the storage, it's about quick accessability!

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u/procrastinatorsuprem 17d ago

Pedestal sinks are the worst.

She is very visual and probably in a hurry.

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u/Twodotsknowhy 17d ago

Did you tell your partner that you were bothered by seeing those items or did you just buy her a present and then seethe to the internet that she used it wrong?

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u/absentxeyes 17d ago

“Mess” in the first picture just being 3 small bottles, a small pack of wipes and a candle 🙄

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u/Daniel_Melzer 17d ago

I‘m not even a woman ☕ /s, but i keep my creams, serums and general beauty stuff out all the time, why would i put it away if i use it every day??
Do you also put away your toothbrush and paste every night? Do you put your shower gel and shampoo in a box under the sink?

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u/myredditses 17d ago

Tbf counters are an essential part of getting ready. Maybe try talking to her?

She almost could use an actual vanity table and chair but idk if you have the space in your home/apt or if she'd use it. But I wouldn't enjoy getting ready in this setup. It's a bit awkward.

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u/Ok-Association4229 17d ago

This is like adding more lanes to a highway to reduce traffic.

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u/DangerBeaver 17d ago

Get a cat. That will sort a lot of your problem.

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u/therealwhoaman 17d ago

Clear boxes! My partner likes a lot of things out on the counter but it feels cluttered, so we compromised by putting things in clear boxes with no lid. It changes the multiple items into 1 item for my brain and it's much eaiser

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u/NefariousnessLost708 17d ago

Well the wrong furniture was being bought. She just got more surface to put things on, so she used the extra surface. A basket wouldve been enough to make things look organized while not creating mor surface to put more things on.

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u/tannerspet 17d ago

Damn have you tried talking to her

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u/harpejjist 17d ago

You have COMPLETELY missed the issue, and therefore all your solutions fail to solve it. Most of that stuff does not FIT in drawers. It is too tall! And even if it did, with tall thin things, the opening and closing could make it fall over and spill. And hot things like curling ftongs can't be put away until they cool.

The other issue is that in the morning, all that stuff takes a while and trying to carefully place it in a very inconvenient place is not gonna happen.

The solution is either putting baskets on the surfaces to slightly contain them

Or put a three door medicine cabinet on the wall where the larger cabinet is. What she needs is to have everything in very easy reach while standing in place at the mirror. The kind with 3 doors. Do you can open the side doors and still see int he middle. Make it so it is easier or at least as easy to place the item on the shelf than on the cabinet.

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u/Elf-7659 17d ago edited 17d ago

Different tires of organisation in your brains. To some people having everything on a surfaces is neat enough. For others having anything on a surface is untidy. You can't expect her to achive your level of tidyness and you can't live with her level of tidyness. You think she is too messy she thinks you are two tidy. There is not right or wrong person here just different levels of seeing things. Try finding a middle ground.

Editing to add, a rack that has several surfaces that aren't closed off by a door so everything is visible might help.

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u/HappyHippocampus 17d ago

I mean it looks like prior to buying those cabinets you had ZERO storage in your bathroom? Pedestal sink and no medicine cabinet. Window over your sink which is unfortunate design. But yeah I mean there’s lot of shit we store in the bathroom
not just cosmetic products. In mine I have medicine, extra TP, cleaning supplies, period supplies, extra towels
then ofc the regular hygiene and some cosmetic stuff

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u/Possible_Budget_1087 17d ago

She isn't going to change.
I'm the kind of person who has to keep things in line of sight or they cease to exist.
I saw that someone suggested baskets. That may work.

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u/oftcenter 17d ago

A bookcase, OP.

She wants open, flat surfaces with easy access to her items. And she wants the ability to see everything at a glance.

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u/MrSocks2024 17d ago

Quite annoying to have to put everything away when you use it daily. You can still make it a bit more organised by putting open trays or baskets on top so things are accessible (and visible) but neat/contained. That’s what I did because I use all these things every day. The only thing I put away is my hair dryer because I only use it every 2-3 days.

But the ultimate issue is that you’re getting annoyed about a situation that strictly has to do with her and you are at this point trying to micro manage it. And if it bothers you that much, it would have been better to spend your efforts on discussing what would actually be helpful to her instead of just buying things that you wanted her to use but that didn’t actually work for her.

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u/AMGamer94 17d ago

There's still room to hang a cabinet on the top right of the last picture, I hope this helped.

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u/Chemical_Reality4606 17d ago

I used to get like this. Something to note based on personal experience....I kept buying more of the same stuff without using all of the original or similar product because I couldn't see it and because I'd panic for whatever reason and think I was going to run out so I took all of said or similar product and combined it into one large clear bottle so I could see it and it decluttered a lot. 52 little bottles became like...7 or 5 and I quit panic buying.

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u/slorm333 17d ago

Someone else said open shelving and I truly think this is the way to go! My 11 year old will also cover and clutter up any free space faster than you can blink. It makes sense that someone who doesn’t put things away in drawers/cabinets would prefer open storage so they can see all of their things. I think I also need to incorporate some open shelving in my home!

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u/I_am_so__so_bored 17d ago

My husband sends his sympathies and says to stop providing more surface area to place stuff on.

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u/TemporaryNorth9346 17d ago

If she puts it away she might forget about it. That's probably why she wants them in sight. Just a guess.

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u/Wonderful_Horror7315 17d ago

I have a feeling she wasn’t consulted when you bought these storage units “for her.”

The first one’s drawers wouldn’t accommodate most of her things without them lying flat so of course she put those things on top. The second one is not better.

I think she’s like me and needs to see her stuff. You have plenty of room to hang shelves to the right of the mirror or put an open or mostly open bookcase-type of shelf in the space where the second unit currently sits. I am a big fan of two tier lazy Susans in the bathroom. Everywhere really.

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u/pleasurealien 17d ago

Heard of shelvess? Adhd and object permanence is a real thing. Or like see through drawers???

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u/Casulex 17d ago

Bitch, the answer was shelving not cabinets 

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u/billiebigge 17d ago

you thought you would stop human nature?

https://giphy.com/gifs/13AsDpoKh1hqb6

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u/snarkistheway666 17d ago

So, the comments aren't going your way.

https://giphy.com/gifs/5hbbUWcuvtoJGx5fQ4

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u/LipsLikeSin48 17d ago

The more space you provide, the more items she's going to get to cover that space. As a woman, I know this.

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u/mmwhatchasaiyan 17d ago

Not really a woman vs man issue. My husband is extremely guilty of this. If the space is free, he will fill it. I’ve done my part and have reduced the amount of “drop spaces” we have in our house. It helped, but he still manages lol

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u/Kutriya404 17d ago

My man is the same

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u/emilygilmoresboa 17d ago

I have ADHD and if I can't see something, it ceases to exist. The more "storage" I'm offered, the worse off I am and the more mess I can create and the more stress I have. Put shelves up on the walls that she can keep everything on.

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u/DogPsychological1720 17d ago

To sort it out a little bit.... Put baskets on top to put all the stuff in.
Also easier with cleaning.

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u/bubble-frogs 17d ago

I read an organization tip where if you find yourself putting the same items in a spot, just accept that’s where it goes and make a nice home for it there. Like my fiance always putting his keys and wallet in the same spot so I put a nice bowl there for him to drop them in.

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u/goneoffscript 17d ago

You need a roll top desk. Then you can simply shut the top to hide the clutter and she can easily convert it to her surface organization when she’s using it. If I could have a roll-top for my entire adhd life, I’d be winning.

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u/jaybirdie26 BLUE 17d ago

I wouldn't want to use drawers for my bathroom stuff either.  Shelves, man.  She obviously wants shelvvvvveeessssss

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u/Derriere_Ruckus 17d ago

ADHD coded, if it's flat, that's where my shit's at

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u/Hurtkopain 17d ago

she just needs open shelves (no drawers or doors) she clearly needs to see items always, probly hates to search for them

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u/Kelsey379 17d ago

Here me out, something with shelfs instead of drawers

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u/luniiz01 17d ago

I’ve realized drawers don’t work bc I’d I don’t see the items I have then they don’t exist. Shelves work better for me. I also have to clean out ever 6 months to keep my sanity 😂

Also as a tall woman I’m not firm to be crouching every single day. Either it’s there easy to grab or it’s not.

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u/fempoison 17d ago

Oh my god get SHELVES and not drawers.

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u/Background_Day_3596 17d ago

Well to be fair your solutions weren’t really solutions. Closed storage in a bathroom for stuff you need daily to get ready is not practical at all. Get open shelves or baskets to put on top of the cupboards. That stuff needs to be at hand without having to open drawers or cupboard doors first.

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u/TheStrangeMonkey 17d ago

First pic wasn't a mess...

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u/CuriousBird337 17d ago

Accessibility and visibility. If she uses it day-to-day she’s not gonna want it shoved in a drawer. Especially if she has ADHD, out of sight out of mind. If stuff isn’t in a clear container it doesn’t exist.

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u/PunyCocktus 17d ago

Stuffing everyday-use stuff into drawers is such a hassle, I need to see where it is, get to it easily and easily put it away. If I put it in a drawer I forget it exists and become a skincareless goblin.

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u/BaconBikes805 17d ago

read a the room and give her the countertop with organizers she wants. imagine if she went into your work station and hid everything away where you couldn't reach it.

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u/Secondhand-Drunk 17d ago

An open shelf would do better. Not a wire rack because shit don't sit on it. People who clutter surfaces and never put things back will never use drawers.

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u/Endoftheworldis2far 17d ago

What you need is more of a cabnet, not drawers. Those kind of bottles are usually placed on counter tops. I wouldn't want to put them in a drawer either. On the larger dresser, if you get a topper that just has to doors that open out, she can have all of her stuff easy to see/reach and you can shut the doors to feel cluttered

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u/Calm_Satisfaction791 17d ago

I saw an organizer type person say you have to build habits that relate to your issue. You clearly 1) want to see the products and 2) will fill space available space. Rather than shelving and cubbies, consider a nice looking basket. You can see the products but they must fit within the basket. The basket will make things look more contained

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u/FucksGivenZer00 17d ago

Why didn’t you ask because a girl isn’t going to want a bunch of cabinets in the bathroom. SHELVES BUD SHELVES! She gave you the clues plenty of times lol

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u/balloonchicken 17d ago

You need a proper large size vanity style bathroom storage. You clearly have the space for it.

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u/WhereRtheTacos 17d ago

This doesn’t look like mess it looks like normal products in a normal bathroom (but a lot of them). Clearly they like to see their items so maybe stop buying stuff for u and ask them what would help. Probably get rid of all that and have one open shelving unit to contain everything.

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u/ChaosTorpedo 17d ago

This is my husband. He needs to have things on display, otherwise he doesn’t know they even exist.

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u/Queen_Rachel4 17d ago

Get her some shelves or storage with windows so she can she her stuff, or even the kalax shelves from IKEA would work great
I have ADHD and need to see my stuff or I forget it exists, maybe she has it, too?

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u/ReturnToSender___ 17d ago

Calling the first pic a mess is certainly a choice

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u/NeedaDommyMommi 17d ago

Bro no help is coming. Accept defeat and embrace the fact you have someone to share your bathroom with

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u/Maladine 17d ago

She needs a system that works for her brain, not what you think she needs. Clearly she's a visual person and needs an organization method that suits it.

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u/SadAcanthocephala521 17d ago

Why was there no counter space there to begin with?

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u/Dragonfly2919 17d ago edited 17d ago

Shelves. Drawers suck for bathroom products. Crouching down and digging out multiple products. And they’re loud if you’re trying to get ready in the morning while others are asleep. And the chances of something falling on its side and leaking is so much higher

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u/Alarmed-Bed-2953 17d ago

The thing with beauty products is that they need to be easy to see and grab. A different kind of shelving, where everything is visually displayed at arm's length, might solve this issue.

An open organizer shelf mounted on the wall next to the sink is probably a better bet.

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u/gejongdthb 17d ago

Gotta treat it like a toilet in a London nightclub. No flat surfaces you can do cocaine off
 everything at 45 degrees

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u/TexxyGent987 17d ago

Isn't that the way it always goes? You find out you need more storage for what you have then you realize that you can buy more crap since you have this storage so you do. Never ending cycle

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u/BerryTea840 17d ago edited 17d ago

She’s probably glad to finally have counter space

If anything you should get a table to fit the space on the right side of the sink so she has a flat open space to put everything and see everything. Not everything that’s out in the open is “clutter”; for some people, it’s just how they organize.

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u/Valuable-Analyst-464 17d ago

I think it’s time for a larger shelf system.

Need to step up to this 6’ system and give her the space she needs.

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u/LazyTelephone8532 17d ago

They seem to follow the concept of first order retrievability (so do I), maybe some kind of open shelving would be better? I find it's just a lot of hassle having to put everything away when I'll need it the next day.