It's kind of the ultimate deflection, "edgy" is the most common thing for unfunny people to go to, because then when nobody laughs you just pretend everyone who criticizes you is just offended
I think the issue is with nuance. Chapelle show and south park had some genuinely smart writing. Everything Ive seen from Shane just seems crude for the sake of being crude. Kind of like Amy schumer, or that one kid who keeps disrupting class for attention
I've always hear it as funny doesnt have to be offensive but offensive has to be funny or youre just an asshole. I liked him in tires but its a situational sitcom not just telling jokes
Yeah he was alright in Tires, I definitely think he's better with a cast than on his own. I only saw the first season or so but it still seemed like half his lines were just calling coworkers gay
Oh it was but it was more creative because he had a cast to bounce things off of. Its how the office worked with the jim/ Dwight thing. Put of context its just mean but when its in context of this kinda thing its actually funny
It had social commentary. This is some guy going “huh?” and mugging his punch lines. The snl sub is hilarious right now. Shane is going to have to lay low in East Timor for a bit, hopefully. There are great comedians that lose out to these manosphere adjacent twat waffles.
I'm glad he said Fuck on air. Lorne has an unreasonable hardon for the guy but is famous about Fuck. Maybe it'll snap him out of whatever need he has to keep him hanging around
This is why I don’t understand the outrage, tons of comedians have made even more outrageous jokes but this is for whatever reason where the line is drawn? It makes no sense
It has nothing to do with offensive comedy, everything to do with a hack comedian standing on one of the biggest stages on national television and just saying "So anyways, women are whores am I right?"
There's barely an attempt at a joke, it's just a dumbass being platformed to say something lazy, dated, and shitty for no reason
South Park and Chapelle both have nuance about it. Gillis's work is like his dress style: sloppy, flat, and unappealling. It's lazy work and he expects to be rewarded for it.
I agree, but I do think there's some raw talent there. The thing is, I don't think he's the least bit interested in refining his style. He will forever come off "as is".
First off, i enjoyed the observational humor in that bit, i chuckled.
Second, half the shit comedians say can be quoted and look terrible, say alot of what Jimmy Carr says. They are just jokes, if you don't like the particular one, who cares and move on lol?
I agree. I don't understand why he's considered a stand up comedian when everything I've seen has been amateurish (including his latest SNL monologue) but he is really great on Tires.
Because some people revel in outrage and being mad and feeling morally superior. They need only the tiniest sliver of an excuse.
For the record - and saying this as a Gillis fan - it was a pretty poor joke, and the use of “whore” was (in my opinion) lazy and a little callous, and certainly deserving of some blowback. But this torrent of outrage is fucking laughable, and the people responding with personal gibes about Shane are in no position to be accusing anyone else of being a shitty human being.
Exactly. Guy doesn’t deserve the character assassination he’s getting, but absolutely deserves a kick in the pants for being a good comedian resorting to lazy, dumb, pointlessly offensive material.
This joke really just wasn’t funny, and there’s a way better joke about how boring men’s workout clothing is compared to women’s. I’m not funny enough to write it, but I’m sure someone here can.
Exactly, have you ever seen a Wham music video, plus the tight blue jeans showed everything. Did we forget about the Jane Fonda 80’s era, creepo is old enough, he should remember that.
Exactly right. Gillis doesn’t deserve the vitriol he’s getting, but he does deserve a smack around the head for being (in my opinion) a better comedian than should be resorting to such a lazy, crude joke.
These types of jokes are not funny because they're all the one same joke.
Step 1: Say something vaguely controversial
Step 2: Smile
The joke is "Ooooh I said X, but you're not supposed to say X!"
X changes with every joke, but it's still the same joke. And it's funny only the first time you hear it, which probably was on some talk show in the 60:s.
It's been a whole day since I heard it, so you'll have to correct me if I am wrong.
But was it not a combination of the old "I said something you're not supposed to say" template and the old "why does she show cleavage if she doesn't want me to look at her boobs" template?
The problem with revealing Mens workout clothing is the penis naturally shrinks during strenuous activity. I would wear some really skimpy shit if it wasn’t for the fact that my dick would be nearly impossible to find. If I was swinging meters of cock, you can better believe that I’d be advertising same as they are
I remember when comedians used to punch up, or be funny, or sometimes both.
Half of the "top comedians" today suck, but I will give him this, at least he's telling "jokes". At least he made an attempt to write something. These people that only do crowd work suck.
Are compression shorts specifically designed to accentuate your butt cheeks and ass crack considered modest or something? Because that is common to see.
Women should be able to wear whatever they want. Also, the way they dress is not an excuse to be a creep, but he’s not necessarily wrong, even if the way he said it was not PC.
I do think we’ve become overly sensitive in regards to comedy. Good example is the comedy roast of Kevin Hart. He told everyone to not hold back and they sure didn’t, including Gillis.
Same. Holding back shouldn't apply with comics, art.
And obviously you know who/what you're getting with Shane or other comics, if someone doesn't like him, I can respect that and would say simply don't watch or listen to him
I don’t understand this timeline. He’s a comedian, not someone to be taken seriously. They tell jokes. That wasn’t even a mildly offensive joke compared to the history of all jokes ever told. How is this still a story?
It seems like it’s the other way around honestly. I couldn’t give a rats ass whether or not somebody thinks any particular joke is funny.
Seems like an awful lot of people are butt hurt by the word he used though.
I mean, are we all supposed to just pretend that many women are not dressing like whores? Isn’t that the entire point of those outfits? What are we doing here?
Personally I find nothing wrong with women dressing however they like. I don’t think what you wear makes you a whore. Sounds like something an incel would think and say personally.
I think its the part where they are filming their squatting butt cheeks and camel toes for internet views which pay them that is the part being missed by your observation
Not understanding how prostitution works, apparently. Nobody at the gym is dressing like a whore, and there are no whores pulling tricks in fucking athletic wear.
There seem to be a huge number of men willing to show their ass if it means women are the punchline of a joke though
I love how most the arguments against this are some variation of, men are just jealous women can be hot in public and they can’t, and then also completely missing the fact that his joke was dunking on himself. How about we just be more modest as a society? Men and women. Everytime I go to a bar or something I see ass hanging out of shorts or titties about to pop out of a flimsily tied shirt. Like yes ladies you’re hot but we gotta stop as a society with this gooner brain shit it’s genuinely damaging to all of us. Ladies you are more than just your ass and titties and you don’t need to show them off to be hot
that wasnt even the punchline. the punchline was that he gets caught looking in the background of tiktoks, he said they look like whores not that they are lmao didnt even watch it, 90% of that joke was him hating on himself as fat and ugly and he still ends up the creepy guy
Let me guess his audience: F150s; Broccoli head; sunglasses in front seat of said F150 as profile; MAGA; says the word “Bro” at the end of each sentence; thinks every girl wants him; loves using slurs against people of color and LGTBQ 🤔
Let me guess his haters: Septum rings, blue hair, posts on SM about how awesome and brave their queer friends are, thinks all conservatives are closet homosexuals, loves using slurs against white cis men 🤔 🤔 🤔
Ya literally he shits on Trump like all the time and makes fun of his maga dad lol I feel like people hating on him don't actually watch his stand up. Someone else told them to hate him.
I don't like Joe Rogan or really any in that manosphere but fuck Sahne is funny. He said it himself, he was grazed by the downs bullet lol he's very talented I just don't agree with all of it. Until he does more than tell a really good joke about something he shouldn't I can't really get mad about it.
If you can find the clip of Matt showing Shane his Native American ceremonial flute (432 Hz), do yourself a favour and watch it. It's truly enlightening.
You could just ask “why are fans so sensitive”. People take it as a personal attack when you attack someone or something that they like. You’re attacking a part of them. That’s why they’re so sensitive.
You gotta remember, the people offended and outraged by this are the same people that were busting up, rolling on the floor, laughing their asses off about the public assassination of a man.
I think people are largely overreacting to a bad set that was definitely in poor taste. Buuuut, like, c'mon man, read the fucking room.
I also see people defending it as being a self deprecating joke, and they're obviously missing the point. Yes, the set was mostly him making fun of himself, but the line he's getting shit for was not. Nor was it the sort of joke where you say something shitty but the joke is that you're a shitty person for saying it. He just called women whores. There's like, 80 ways you could have done it that wouldn't land as badly. Hell, you could have hard committed. Done like, awooga eyes and talked about how you would have gone sooner if you knew women were dressing like that, and it STILL probably would have landed better because people would at least recognize that the joke is that you're being a perv (I'm not saying it would have been a good joke, but it would have been at least a joke).
I watched some old Rodney Dangerfield clips the other day, and his work has aged shockingly well — because that crass, obnoxious character/persona was the butt of like every joke, no matter who that character was talking about.
It’s like these guys think the joke is supposed to be Dangerfield’s fat ugly bitch of a wife.
...No I think you'd have to be using "whores" in a derogatory way for it to be misogyny, and even that's a stretch. Misogyny is hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women. He was saying they dress scantily, and the focus of the joke was self-deprecation, not deprecating them for their attire. The fact that he says that he's not allowed to look implies that he wants to, right? So, not really disparaging. Crass for sure though.
If he had said something more like they shouldn't be at the gym because they're just whores, that would be misogyny and worthy of outrage.
I think toeing the line with this "whores" joke was the point. That and the F-bomb he let slip have made headlines, have people talking about SNL...
They do try to get a comedian with widespread appeal in trouble every couple months for doing comedy so I get the urge to jump to cancel culture.
Honestly I think it’s just a few influencers trying to make a name for themselves by creating something out of nothing. Look at what Chelsea Handler tried after the Netflix roasts
News flash- a good percentage of women who wear this shit to the gym for tiktok content are whores. Why does one have to be misogynistic to say it out loud? Am I also a Jew hating anti-semite for calling out dropping bombs on babies? Life is about to get pretty rough for you sensitive folk.
Instagram algorithm has been recommending me a bunch of reels recently featuring women in revealing gym outfits. Can someone on Reddit write me a note for the wife to assure her that there is nothing sexual about these reels? Thanks!
Are you sure it’s SG fans are so sensitive or is it that you don’t like his political stance and you want to make fun of him but it didn’t work there so your trying it here?
Holy christ your comment history(which you hid but easily searchable) is 100% political rage. What else is an 8 month old account for I suppose Step away for a moment. Take a breather man..
I like Shane. I don’t care if others do or don’t. Jokes either land or they don’t. I also know some comedians are for some people and not others. There is a tiny sliver of truth in jokes; as someone who frequents the gym he’s not wrong about revealing clothes.. and what’s worse are the people “streaming” and recording themselves. I honestly don’t care how close to naked you want to be, but don’t be mad if you draw attention.
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u/PostureKing180 6h ago
The people who call others "soy boys" and "snowflakes" tend to be the most fragile of all people and are just projecting.