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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz Feb 19 '26
I had sooo many right wing teachers in school.
I remember my 6th grade science teacher saying "Now were going to do a unit on evolution because the state says we have to, but we all know God created the world in 7 days"
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u/ADirtFarmer Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
My high school biology teacher lost his job for insufficient coddling of creationists, despite telling us that we didn’t have to agree with the theory of evolution we just had to demonstrate that we understood it.
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u/CuriousPilotMaker Feb 19 '26
This is why America fails to be great.
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u/Much-Stay-9900 Feb 19 '26
Yep. We handcuff ourselves to an imaginary God at the expense of greatness.
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u/shlaifu Feb 19 '26
no. you handcuffed yourself to a radiator while trying to tell everyone else on the planet that this is what freedom looks like.
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u/Trick_Wrongdoer_5847 Feb 19 '26
The era of anti-intelectulism, watch it become a 3rd world country if this continues.
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u/AmputeeHandModel Feb 19 '26
Approximately 37% to 40% of Americans believe in the strict creationist view that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years, 🤦♂️
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u/play-what-you-love Feb 19 '26
Also, 25 percent of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth, and around 10 percent believe that Joan of Arc was the wife of Noah.
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u/NRMusicProject Feb 19 '26
around 10 percent believe that Joan of Arc was the wife of Noah.
That's terrifying. Even for Christians, because the literate of them should know that at the very least, nothing in texts puts the two of them together. For fuck's sake, The Bible was finished at least a fucking thousand years before Joan of Arc was even born.
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u/ohgeeeezzZ Feb 19 '26
It should be abundantly clear that most Christians have never read the Bible based on how intolerant so many of them are
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u/heroturtle88 Feb 19 '26
Don't have to be literate to listen to Dr. Pastor Dean O'sCamly sit there and tell you immigrants are taking your money, but he'll talk to the magic sky guy for you if you throw 10 bucks in a hat we all pass around before committing imaginary cannibalism.
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u/Gingevere Feb 19 '26
I'm assuming that "Joan of Arc was the wife of Noah" was a bubble on a multiple choice question. Not a thing that anyone really believes, but something that people might guess at when asked "which of the following are correct?"
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u/Throtex Feb 19 '26
I’m willing to believe that, but only if I can also entertain that god was playing a cruel joke to make them all so stupid.
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u/scalyblue Feb 19 '26
I’m reminded of an onion article that was like “ancient Sumerians impressed with creation of universe show in Middle East” or something of that vibe
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The seven day thing is hilarious, like God measures time by counting revolutions of one planet that he hasn't even created yet.
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u/DifficultMinute Feb 19 '26
My high school biology teacher moved to teaching US History for the same reason.
She was being forced to teach creationism and was in a constant battle with principal and the school board for refusing, so the compromise was that she'd just not teach biology anymore.
Another teacher retired, so she got the history spot. Then, she got in trouble for showing us Schindler's List in class.
Good old Indiana.
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u/25nameslater Feb 19 '26
I remember kids in biology trying to push creationism, teacher just said “religion is your parents domain and I’m not allowed to teach it.” So here’s the theory of evolution.
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u/I-screwed-up-bad Feb 19 '26
Dude I had middle school in South Carolina... Things still pop into my memory where I realize, "That's fucked up."
Most commonly in history actually. There was this running story that slavery "wasn't that bad" because slave owners had a vested interest in the health of their slaves.
Same school system but high school tried to fast track me (and all the smart girls) into a nursing program. Instead of an actual science class. I spent a couple days learning about the different names of wounds until I was transferred to honors bio. It wouldn't have even given me an actual science credit apparently.
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u/Recent-Let-4894 Feb 19 '26
My 11th grade female History teacher tried to teach us that slavery was about states rights. Even as 16yos most of us knew that was bullshit. And this was nowhere near the Bible Belt.
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u/HamilToe_11 Feb 19 '26
Do you mean the civil war was about states rights? The southern states did secede bc they wanted more states rights than federal in order to keep slavery alive from fear the Republicans would abolish it.
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u/MuckRaker83 Feb 19 '26
I had a history teacher in high school that started the year by having the class go around the room and state where they were from. Since we were all from the same little rural town, it was assumed that he meant heritage/ethnicity, and everyone said Irish, German, Italian, what have you.
When we were done, he told us how disappointed he was and that he dreamed of a day that he would ask the question and everyone would say "American." There followed an interesting discussion after that.
Unfortunately as the year went on, he later also shared with us some of his views on race, starting with the notion that he believed African Americans should be thankful for 400 years of servitude and forced eugenics because it made them the athletic specimens they are today...his views of other races got darker from there.
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u/naura_ Feb 19 '26
What’s wild was in the middle of liberal California a classmate of mine threw a fit during biology class and left crying. We were a honors class with 8 students.
She also went to UCLA in an early admit by passing the GED when I was a junior.
This isn’t a Bible Belt problem.
It’s how people seem to not be able to know the difference between understanding something and believing in something.
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u/OiseauChonco Feb 19 '26
Sounds like an American school, no?
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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz Feb 19 '26
Oh, 100%, right in the buckle of the Bible Belt
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u/Furry_Eskimo Feb 19 '26
I've driven through there before, and I thought what people said about it was a myth. I no longer think it's a myth..
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u/TheBeardedHen Feb 19 '26
Uhhh, the Midwest is definitely NOT in the bible belt.
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u/OttoVonJizzfart Feb 19 '26
guess it depends what you consider midwest, and what the bible belt consists of. Kansas and Oklahoma are quite backwards religious places, not quite sure if Oklahoma is considered mid west or southern
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u/Various-Salt-7738 Feb 19 '26
I have a friend who had to go to a creationist museum with his mom
A whole museum of half answers to dismiss evolution and such
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u/ImaginaryBee187 Feb 19 '26
That's terrifying
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u/_my_troll_account Feb 19 '26
Good lesson, I suppose, that empiricism is rejected with hostility by people who consider their beliefs unalterable.
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u/cuteerachell11 Feb 19 '26
hahaha that's wild I feel you some teachers really had zero chill when it came to mixing personal beliefs with the curruculum.
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u/Yashema Feb 19 '26
I had a middle school history teacher who knew her world history curriculum backward and forward from the Greeks to the Chinese Dynasties to the Saxons, but would interject "scientists believe in big bang theories" or showed us a video that claimed a human skeleton that was 175,000 years old disproved evolution even though scientists believe homosapiens have existed for 250-300 thousand years.
50 miles from Los Angeles and public school btw.
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u/Nihil_esque Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
Yeah same. My AP bio teacher regularly stopped class like 20-30 minutes into the lesson so we could all pray about how grateful we were to be Christians in Texas and not in another country where Christians are persecuted. No I am not kidding or exaggerating. I guess it just didn't occur to her that there might be some non-christian students in her class. Yes this was a public school.
There was also my US history class, which didn't mention slavery and skipped the civil war and Jim Crow era in favor of having more time for modern US history and how having a black president is the end of racism actually. Coincidentally there were 0 students in my high school of 2500 that passed the APUSH exam -- the highest grade was a 2/5.
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u/AcridWings_11465 Feb 19 '26
how having a black president is the end of racism actually
To be fair, it did feel like that at the time. Then reality reared its ugly head.
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u/the_mighty__monarch Feb 19 '26
Sounds like the AP Statistics class I took in high school where we just like…watched Oceans 11 and shit.
We all got A’s in the class and 1’s on the AP test.
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u/taborles Feb 19 '26
Don’t worry, we CLOWNED on the girl that asked our middle school science teacher why he teaches evolution when he “knows it’s a lie”. Mr was not having it.
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u/DJmagikMIKE Feb 19 '26
That’s awesome! I was raised around a bunch of religious nut jobs. That’s how you have to handle their idiocy. Just laugh at them until they shut up. The biggest failing in current society is people’s lack of standing up to obvious morons and letting them know…that they are in fact, morons.
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u/ShoddyAsparagus3186 Feb 19 '26
The contract was to create everything in 7 days. After 7 days, everything had been created. If you're going to quibble about the details, get an employee instead of a contractor.
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u/OGJank Feb 19 '26
We had a substitute teacher get fired after threatening a student who didn't stand for the pledge of allegiance. This was during the Colin Kaepernick controversy, in Massachusetts of all places.
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u/MaxCWebster Feb 19 '26
My bio teacher was the opposite. She would not teach evolution because at the time (1978 Louisiana) the state required equal time for creationism, and she refused to do it.
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u/imdungrowinup Feb 19 '26
My physics teacher in a church managed school in India was debating students about how Christ is better than Krishna. She was also a really good physics teacher somehow.
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u/Bluedreamreaper Feb 19 '26
Damn! Did you also learn about the war of northern aggression?
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u/MothashipQ Feb 19 '26
My freshman year history teacher unironically wanted the US to build a great wall like China but around the entire country and seperate from the rest of world. I think about that a lot
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u/Suspicious-Shock-934 Feb 19 '26
Did they talk about the war of northern aggression or of state rights when talking about the Civil War as well? Kind-of part and parcel to those types usually.
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u/_GhostOfTheGoon_ Feb 19 '26
My government teacher my senior year (in middle georgia) stopped class to go on a 10 minute rant about evolution and how ridiculous it is that they’re teaching humans are part monkey
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u/uffadei Feb 19 '26
Its funny you cqll that right wing, others places that is just crazy.
Right wing in normal places just try to get all the money to the few
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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz Feb 19 '26
Well here they do that by co-opting religious movements and using anti-science rhetoric 🤷♀️
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u/GriffSupreme Feb 19 '26
I had a teacher, who was Christian, step on a bible when we started studying it. It was an expression of 'this is just another book' and this is academic, not spiritual practice. It didn't bother me at all being irreligious, but boy did she piss off some people and some peoples' parents.
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u/mikeveeUI Feb 19 '26
My 6th grade science teacher told us "God created evolution, there now everyone can be happy."
That has stuck with me my whole life and I repeat it if the subject ever comes up.
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u/TheoryChemical1718 Feb 19 '26
Cause one needs to study history for all of five seconds to realize that licking the boots of the guy above you might prevent your life from getting any worse but it sure as fuck wont make your life any better.
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u/gandalf_the_cat2018 Feb 19 '26
History teacher chiming in. I’ve worked at several schools at this point. History departments were the most combative teachers (to admin) on campus. They were the most skeptical of policy changes and least likely to implement these changes until administration could provide enough evidence to support why the policy changes needed to be made in the first place.
I think people who like history as an academic discipline are extremely critical of power structures. It’s why every dictatorship kills the historians first.
We always hung out with the science teachers.
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u/Emergency_Basket_851 Feb 19 '26
In my experience, science teachers ran the gamut from "I am an intelligent, curious person who puts thought into a lot of life and so I pursued science to apply my thought processes and personality to my career" to "I am only interested in one thing in life and consequentially I have put very little thought into the lives of others and the greater workings of the world"
And one of those groups trended much more conservative.
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u/Professional_Put6821 Feb 19 '26
Nah man, social sciences and humanities get targeted before the historians. Also in part because they‘re cooler, becaue they smoke cigarettes and have intercourse.
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Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
Some people see history as a matter of belief instead of reality that actually happened. While not always the case, people who study it usually belong in the latter category.
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u/pikashroom Feb 19 '26
Interesting thing that I just read talked about how colonial history surrounding Native Americans were highly biased toward them being savages bc the only things written about them were about whites being enslaved and them trading land for an unfair price. Not very much Europeans writing good things so in the early and even late 1900s, people were still writing history texts as if the Natives had no culture themselves, even further displacing them in history. Sadly the theme of the article was that all history is subjective. Literally all of it
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u/Practical-Parsley102 Feb 19 '26
Sadly the theme of
Theres nothing sad about it, thats just the bedrock of the very concept of history. The only sad thing is people carrying on as if its not obviously true. It was okay when the meaning of education was spending a lot of time in church, but the world really shouldn't be stuck in pre-modern levels of discourse any more
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u/FayShadowcaster Feb 19 '26
Not just history...being educated in general.
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u/mwhite5990 Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
It is only a small gap among people with a bachelor’s degree. The educational divide is more pronounced among people with postgraduate degrees. The educational gap is also more of a factor with white voters.
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Feb 19 '26
“Every scientist believes in climate change, what’s the explanation?”
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u/Background-Gas8109 Feb 19 '26
It's gotta be a conspiracy backed be the Devil and those damn Commies to attack God!
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u/Truffs0 Feb 19 '26
Sure, the larger the city the more blue it typically is; the larger the city the more funding that can be put into formal education. But lets not pretend intelligence and education directly correlates to a classroom setting. I'm neurodivergent and grew up in a red area. I suffered greatly in a classroom setting — but that had nothing to do with the politics of the area, it's just not how I learn or thrive. That doesn't make me uneducated or unintelligent. I thrived in trade school and working with my hands. Being able to combine critical thinking, applying formula and physically manipulating the subject matter was a necessary combination for my thought process. Let's not be in a hurry to wholesale judge a group just because they might operate differently. Intentional or not, It's very bigoted thinking that we should avoid.
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u/PublicDragonfruit120 Feb 19 '26
There’s nothing bigoted about pointing out a statistical trend observed in most modern democracies. That doesn’t mean you can’t be educated or intelligent and vote conservative. Statistics describe population-level patterns - they don’t define individuals. Judging a specific person based on a group trend would be unfair, but acknowledging the trend itself isn’t.
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u/Consistent-Steak1499 Feb 19 '26
Unless your history teacher was ALSO a sports coach, the 100% massive “beer belly” type conservative.
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u/Blackberry_Hills Feb 19 '26
Clearly you guys weren’t taught history by a coked out football coach whose only day of teaching the entire year was lecture, no sources cited, about how the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.
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u/DrustanAstrophel Feb 19 '26
Yeah tell that to the high school history teacher who kept sending my wife to the office because she wouldn’t stand for the teacher pushing revisionist history about the US civil war 😒😒😒
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u/essenceofpurity Feb 19 '26
Reality has a left wing bias.
If you do surface level research and get alternate history from right wing podcasters and crackpots, you get a history designed by the wealthy to manipulate you into voting against your best interests. This is how the fascist right is trying to take over and rule from the minority.
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u/ImWithStupidKL Feb 19 '26
It's not even that reality has a left wing bias, it's that left wing ideas are usually in the interests of the majority of the population and right wing ideas are in the interests of a few elites. So right wing politics has to then become a game of convincing people to vote against their personal interests, which by definition relies on being dishonest. So reality shows those lies for what they are.
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u/RainbowForHire Feb 19 '26
I had one obnoxiously conservative kid in my middle school civics class and basically every class amounted to him arguing with the teacher who always sounded fed up with his shit.
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u/Ol_Big_MC Feb 19 '26
My college world history professor was chaotic neutral. It was refreshing honestly
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u/Tushaca Feb 19 '26
My high school US history teacher was great, she was always just the opposite of your viewpoint, and could debate it extremely well for either side. I was in her class on an election year, and we had no idea who she would actually vote for. She would have us compare and contrast prior elections with their campaigns, and break down what promises were actually fulfilled or even attempted, and made us realize how often both parties are fighting for the same thing, just presented completely different.
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u/Ol_Big_MC Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
Yep, both parties are largely the same but politicians have figured out how strong logical fallacies are like ad hominem, ad hoc, red herring or what-about-ism. So they just pick an emotionally charged issue. Something cultural that shouldn’t be political and boom we’re divided. Diabolical honestly
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u/spondgbob Feb 19 '26
Education is correlated with political affiliation. Typically more educated people lean liberal, because there is an abundance of historical evidence that conservative movements result in lower prosperity on average. Liberalism tries to lower the bottom line which does better for society as a whole.
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u/MisterMaryJane Feb 19 '26
How? I asked you to show us a source of people voting for GOP who are educated. You said look it up and I did to prove that. Now it’s before Obama when it changed. Nice goal post moving. Please cite a source for your information.
Before Obama educated votes were basically 50/50 for dems and gop with only less than a 4% difference. It was widely gop like you claim. That has drastically changed with educated voters voting dem by a now 12% margin. It sheds light on how before Trump came into the picture the parties weren’t as radical as the gop currently is now. Hence why educated people vote dem now.
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u/Ononas Feb 19 '26
My history teacher was a dumbest teacher of them all, she also barely knew history - “US liberated Auschwitz” that’s what she said.
Point is, being a teacher in the school doesn’t mean you actually understand the subject.
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u/thatonecruiser Feb 19 '26
I had a right wing history teacher two years in a row (different teachers, similar beliefs)
The first year, my history teacher was very adamant about how Hitler escaped to Argentina and that mass media was lying to us.
The second year, my history teacher said that Japanese internment was not racially motivated in any way, and neither was segregation?!?
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u/OctopusGrift Feb 19 '26
There are plenty of right wing historians they just tend to be center right. Conservatives have primed themselves to think that if they get a bad grade it must be that they are being ideologically oppressed not that they are doing bad work.
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u/PauseAffectionate720 Feb 19 '26
REAL History scholars look at facts based on evidence. And when you do, you may end up leaning "left" as that term is currently understood. Because the ultra "right" wants to push revisionist history that purposely skips or spins the bad stuff people have done in history to other people.
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u/twoiseight Feb 19 '26
Also because it requires historical ignorance or revisionism to maintain modern right wing beliefs and values.
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u/rogrs4 Feb 19 '26
I don’t think that’s true. But studying history accurately is against the rules for MAGA now. Everything critical of the USA or could be deemed critical is now considered left wing.
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u/DemonCipher13 Feb 19 '26
The more you understand government, and how to think in pieces, the more liberal you become.
Conservatives, Libertarians, and anyone in the same vein tend to think with blankets, trying to cover forest fires. Not only is it not going to fix the problem, they have a hard time identifying what the problems tend to be. Sometimes, outright malevolently, they make up problems to fix.
Liberals aren't immune from mistakes, either, but there is a clear reason the most intelligent people in society tend to lean that way en masse.
They tend to consider the social, economic, and diplomatic implications of the things they bring to the table. It isn't a matter of right and wrong, authoritarian or no, it is a matter of, "Will this benefit the most people, the most efficiently?"
The best ones can think of big picture AND small picture, and surround themselves with those who can help to extrapolate what paints they need for each.
There are very few conservatives that can do this, too, although they do exist. But the mindset is anathemic to the nature of liberal or progressive viewpoints.
A conservative might say, "We don't need X anymore because Y doesn't happen anymore."
A liberal would say, "We need X because Y came about from nothing, and if we don't have X, Y might happen again."
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u/JamesGray Feb 19 '26
I'm pretty sure my high school history teacher was a neonazi, which I think is the distressingly common alternative.
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u/prionbinch Feb 19 '26
i had a history teacher that was a cop part-time and was suspiciously giddy after the elections in 2016. definitely not uncommon
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u/Different_Pattern273 Feb 19 '26
The stereotype of history teachers here is that they are usually conservative, really only doing the job so they can coach sports (there are no coach only positions), and both incredibly lazy and generally kind of stupid.
Oh, and they seem to be in a competition with the science teacher for how many can be caught sexually engaging with their students.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
pretty much yeah
Rightoids think history was a bunch of people being philosophers, then guys in Armour shouting deus vult, then guys in powdered wigs inventing science then we get to modern day where the smelly femminists want to ruin everything.
You're not going to pass Uni without something a bit more complex.
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u/Blitzer161 Feb 19 '26
Every time I hear someone say "everyone in college is left-wing/a communist because of indoctrination" it always makes me laugh. So you are saying that someone who is left-leaning during or after getting a better education is left-leaning because of the indoctrination? Really? Doesn't it occur to you that they are, in fact, just more educated, and that might be the reason behind their stance?
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u/HistoricalMaize Feb 19 '26
I know an history teacher that is a supporter of full blown monarchy.
Never really knew why he wanted us to be ruled by someone chosen from birth but yeah...
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u/riley_luci Feb 19 '26
I had a history teacher in school who praised one of the former prime ministers of India by saying: "I have never heard a valid criticism of this prime minister." During that prime minister's rule, the communalistic and religious sentiments worsened, especially in a particular state which was ruled by his party's chief minister (who happened to become a future prime minister).
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u/ramencents Feb 19 '26
one of my high school history teachers was a small c conservative (not maga today type conservative, more like William F Buckley New England rich conservative). You could tell he believed the biggest gains to civilization as a whole was the expansion of European imperialism. Colonialism was a misunderstood gift to the savages around the world.
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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 Feb 19 '26
It’s been almost fifty years, but my middle school history teacher claimed that the reason blacks in the USA were struggling academically but were successful in sports was due to plantation owners breeding their strongest slaves. He very clearly implied that strong = stupid.
I was the only black kid in class and was unprepared to object.
Mr Gillum (fu), was extremely popular since was a bit goofy and always dressed up for holidays.
This was in coastal California.
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u/irishcoughy Feb 19 '26
I don't think I've ever had a history teacher that wasn't both extremely conservative and also the coach for one of the sports teams.
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u/Much-Stay-9900 Feb 19 '26
You can compare the political wiring of History and Social Studies teachers to Science and Gym teachers until you’re blue in the face, but two things (both inherently worthwhile) that create left leaning people are 1.) world travel, and 2.) actually studying unbiased history and comprehending it.
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u/Pentamachina3 Feb 19 '26
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
That's why we have Fascism 2: Electric Boogaloo
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u/Much_Difference Feb 19 '26
My idiot cousin has a degree in Engineering but couldn't get a job in the field, so naturally, his local high school hired him to teach History. He has zero background in History, not even interested in the subject, it's just what was available and the people hiring didn't give a shit. Told him maybe a STEM position would open up soon and they'd move him.
Anyway, that's why there's a History teacher at an 80% Black school teaching all the kids that MLK Jr was a dirty cheater Communist and that the welfare state was created to kill Black people. He says he's "raising the next generation of Black boys to know the real history." He's white, btw.
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u/Blue_Geotrupid Feb 19 '26
All of my history teachers were right wing 😂😂 they were also all football coaches interestingly
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u/Putrid_Invite_194 Feb 19 '26
Unfortunately even among history teachers, there are lots of bad examples. Björn Höcke, court approved fascist and leader of the most radical state branch of the German right-wing extremist AfD party is a history teacher as well.
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u/FinalDisciple Feb 19 '26
The couple of right wing history teachers and professors I had, were far more interested in teaching military campaigns than anything else. It’s funny how many people say their right leaning teachers were racists that ignored history.
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u/jancl0 Feb 19 '26
Because history is objectively one of, if not the most, political sciences. If you study it, you could end up going in any direction on the spectrum, but you're going to go very far in that direction. There are absolutely far right scholars of history, but they're usually very.... selective about which parts of history they learn about
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u/Cosmonaut_K Feb 19 '26
So we have left-wing teachers that actually know history, and right-wing pundits that beg and fight for a 'RETVRN' to history.
Also known as: good guys and bad guys.
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u/Darthplagueis13 Feb 19 '26
The good ones are.
Given that arguably the most infamous currently active right-wing politician in my country is a former history teacher, I can unfortunatey confirm that not all of them are left-wing.
Though quite how one can be a neo-nazi while having studied enough history to be considered a qualified teacher is honestly beyond me.
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We had a history teacher who was racist and taught about why Obama was evil. One time he threw a chair at a student, luckily it missed and only shattered a window.
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u/l0st1nP4r4d1ce Feb 19 '26
History rhymes, it doesn't repeat.
A quote from my very conservative history teacher, and vet of Korea.
He wasn't a lefty for sure, but he would think (waves hands around the US) this would be cause for riots.
Godspeed T.
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u/swtxcouple Feb 19 '26
Every history professor I know, is conservative. 🤷♂️ My best friend is one.
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u/ballchinion8 Feb 19 '26
I have many teacher friends that aren't. They just can't be vocal or they'll get ostracized and fired.
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u/Charming_Crow_3621 Feb 19 '26
In my experience, history teachers were often conservative. If anything, more conservative history teachers than other subjects
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u/Different_Tower4088 Feb 19 '26
My georgia history teacher in college referred to the Civil War as the "war of northern aggression", they arent all liberal i assure you lol
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u/Ninevehenian Feb 19 '26
Because the willingness to work for low pay, in order to serve the purpose of teaching and the maintenance of areas of importance like "history" often involves people willing to put worth and virtue ahead of self.
Which currentday results in "left wing".
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u/CanoegunGoeff Feb 19 '26
See, I would’ve thought my history teacher was left leaning at least, she was an excellent teacher and did a fantastic job at teaching things in a way that felt truly objective and analytical. Those classes really taught me a lot and honestly helped me wake up from the alt right pipeline that targets high school aged guys.
And then years later I find out she’s hella into the right wing grifting.
Like… what?
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u/phalencrow Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
Yeah. My dad was a pro capitalist, pro expansion, US propaganda believing doctorate level historian. Also a Korean war vet. Despite the Bible‘s contradictions within itself, against other historic records, and science keep often fell in line with his churches views.
However, he was a great dad and perhaps one of the few men of his generation that was unconcerned about displays of toxic masculinity. He was the parent everyone went to for comfort both physically and emotionally. Never fired a gun after Korea, except to train others to use them safely. He was patient and calm to the point of being indulgent when a child/ YA in his influence fucked up. He made a point of showing extra respect to women and people of color because it made his blood boil that others treated them as lessers. The only time I had evidence of him getting red angry was the one time when my mom hit my sister in the heat of an argument, and he told her if it happened again he’d take the children and leave even though it would break his heart.
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u/Phyrexian_Overlord Feb 19 '26
The very first professor I encountered that was anti zionist was a WW2 historian
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u/Rare-Forever2135 Feb 19 '26
...and authoritarian conservativism always lands on the wrong side of history
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u/Purple-Plum-634 Feb 19 '26
The scariest ones are the teachers who studied history and still voted for a fascist. Tell me you're racist without telling me history repeats itself....
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u/Little_Quote5392 Feb 19 '26
most people in the cities that live near universities and education are left wing and the people that live in the more rural area are right wing.
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u/Saint_Exmin Feb 19 '26
"Why are all history teachers left wing"
Because the American educational system, particularly the softer subjects, has been infiltrated and controlled by avowed Marxists and outright Communists for decades. And managed by Corpo controlled Technocrats who can't see past their next bribe.
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u/Massive-Goose544 Feb 19 '26
I was kicked out of a history class in high school for correcting the teacher. The principal told me that it didn't matter that I was right, students are not allowed to argue with teachers. Public school believes blind obedience to authority is more important than truth and critical thought. That was the day I realized what the education system was all about.
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u/Doughnut3683 Feb 19 '26
It’s ironic because historically when the left takes over a country the academics are always the first to go
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u/SmoothSlavperator Feb 19 '26
No.
Education attracts communists the same way law enforcement attracts sociopaths.
There's a bias for the line of work. There's a shitload of people that study history that aren't left wing. Its just that the ones that are left wing gravitate towards teaching. Teachers in general are left wing.
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u/Electronic_Kale_6630 Feb 19 '26
It really makes no sense. The world worked in historical times. They should be right wing, not left. Why go against something that worked?
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u/Fine_Run7202 Feb 19 '26
They’re all liberals not “left-wing” I have two history degrees. I’ve met one leftist history professor and he taught northwestern tribal studies which is about as close to not history as a history professor gets it’s essentially anthropology because they didn’t really write.
Leftist love to cling to “left-wing” and lump liberals in when it makes them feel better about themselves and then bash them the other second for not being willing to just kill all the religious people or some shit.
History professors teach leftism as a failed concept pitched in the 1840s that has been repeated tried and never has or will work. From the main stream historical viewpoint this conversation is over. Doesn’t mean most of us wouldn’t love to see the us be more like the Nordic states and have a strong social safety net but nobody is clamoring for decades of violence and stupidity leading to a tinpot dictatorship.
Never forget communists created fascism
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u/ItchyNScratchy_16 Feb 19 '26
Went to a small uni in Kansas and students were arguing with teachers in biology class over evolution. Man just chill so we can finish the course.
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u/HopeSubstantial Feb 19 '26
I hate how people have started to think right wing as some homogenous group of X country Maga people.
Here liberal right wing is largest party. They are far from these "Maga folks"
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u/cecethemagiccutie Feb 19 '26
my old high school literally has a Turning Point USA club (roleplaying as an actual chapter) thats chaperoned by my old US history teacher. they have a victim complex because they kept getting mobbed on insta for being fucking racist. they turned off comments and cried about being "prosecuted" by the left
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u/ManagerInformal8377 Feb 19 '26
Actually most historians are libertarian or non-political. And they should be. History has been polarized by politics since the beginning of time. It’s time we fixed that. True history is nothing like what is taught in public education for US people.
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u/drako3549 Feb 19 '26
Had a science teacher who use to say "democrats believe they have to tax people, and Republicans believe people will pay what they need too."
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u/grndbdpsthtl Feb 19 '26
One of the leading members of Germany's right wing party used to be a history teacher. I have no idea how these two things fit together. But I'm also a "left-wing" history teacher (US view of left and right).
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u/ktrulz1 Feb 19 '26
I had a very conservative Government teacher in high school. Made us do a whole unit on why affirmative action was wrong.
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u/bongophrog Feb 19 '26
Define left-wing. Are you talking liberal Democrats or actual Marxists?
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u/SideEmbarrassed1611 Feb 19 '26
Generalization. Not all teachers are. There is a hiring bias, as well.
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u/Psycosteve10mm Feb 19 '26
The cost-to-profit ratio for teaching is not there. Who is going to spend 100k for a job that pays 40k a year? Most right-wingers are going to look into degrees that are going to be profitable.
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u/largos7289 Feb 19 '26
Alot of professors are and if you did pay attention in history, at least in the US, you would be adamantly pro-gun and less government. Government wanting to take your guns = death to you. Look what happened to the American Indian, that should be the glaring example of what happens. I may be alot of things, but you will never convince me that what we did to them was OK.
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u/Pro_Technoblade Feb 19 '26
I mean, makes sense but you can also have some right wing ideology and still be a decent person, I myself think I’m mostly neutral in the fact of I like listening to both sides and seeing which one is more beneficial, but some stances I don’t budge on like my belief that owning a gun is a god given right regardless if god exists or not
And I don’t want to turn this into a gun debate so imma clear this up real quick, criminals will always have guns and I believe in the right to protect yourself at an even playing field as well as people should take firearm safety courses before getting a gun and once that is in effect, then you should be able to buy whatever gun you can afford as long as you’re safe with it
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u/DanzigsLacyPanties Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
Definitely not all. I very distinctly remember Mr. Dollman going off on an extended clenched jaw rant about how Nazis had a ton of secret homosegguals in high-ranking positions and it had all been a conspiracy. Didn't have anything to say about the origin of the pink triangle because why bother when it doesn't fit into your conspiracy theory. This is also the same man who popped in a video of "Rebel Without a Cause" and had zero to say regarding the relationship between Jim and Plato even though it was pretty damn obvious that it was queer-coded to 17 year old me.
Edit: RIP Sal Mineo. Thank you for being one of my first crushes. I'm sorry that your story didn't have a better end to it.
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u/MountainBrilliant643 Feb 19 '26
When I went to high school, one of the main history teachers was democrat, and the other was republican. They seemed like such good friends. I really miss those days. Both sides hated and mistrusted the government, no matter who was in office, instead of hating one another. Now both sides treat their political party like it's their whole personality, and it's really disheartening.
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u/whoamIbooboo Feb 19 '26
While vacationing in punta Cana, I did run into a dyed in the wool trump loving history teacher. One of many points of irony I found was that both and his wife were Puerto Rican. Besides that though, because I was curious to figure out how you can do that job and still end up MAGA, I picked his brain. It turns out he was a private school teacher, one where he didnt need to have a degree to be a teacher. It made me seriously question educational standards in the US, even more than I already did.
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u/Annual-Advance3226 Feb 19 '26
I remember teachers with a variety of political views back in high school. I would love to argue issues based on ideology, instead of: for or against what the leader says from his throne.
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u/Green-Engineer4608 Feb 19 '26
Language teachers tend to be old racists while history teachers are young wokies IMO. Would pay to see the breakroom convos some time
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u/Popular_War6479 Feb 19 '26
Because they are teaching a curriculum bought and paid for by rich people that pushed an agenda to weaken our society. IYKYK.
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u/Lishio420 Feb 19 '26
And then there is Bernd Höcke (german AfD party member (basically modern day nazi party)) who used to be a history teacher b4 he got his teaching lisence revoked due to being a holocaust denier and overll nazism support during his lessons.
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u/SailInternational251 Feb 19 '26
My history teachers were mostly centrists towards libertarian. Math teachers were further right but literature was always the furthest left towards Marxist
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u/le_reddit_me Feb 19 '26
In France, which from the translation seems to be the subject, public teachers are supposed to keep neutrality, and not give their political opinions. So history should be quite neutral, and when reflecting on history, quite anti far right (much fewer instances of far left in history).
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u/ProfessionalNice7485 Feb 19 '26
The barbarians never breached the great cities. Because the gates were always opened from the inside.
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