r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 25d ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø We would lose our job.
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u/oicyunv 25d ago
Almost like there should be some sort ofā¦ā¦checks notesā¦.FUCKING ACCOUNTABILITY
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u/The-King-Tomato 25d ago
People dont realize yet that without accountability the whole system breaks and voting does nothing.
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u/henryeaterofpies 25d ago
That's kinda Republican's goal
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u/npmaker 25d ago
If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.
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u/jjwhitaker 25d ago
And that was 8 years ago. Coup 2.0 is well underway.
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u/Ill_Technician3936 25d ago
His entire administration is basically setup for a coup...
Maga isn't what it was 6 years ago though. He needs a miracle at this point even then though your average American should be ready to have a massive brawl in the streets before they can get to the capitol building.
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u/notoriousksc 19d ago
It wasn't 8 years ago, it broke in 2000 with Gore/Bush, after years of dismantling guardrails (primarily under Reagan). We are just watching the system get progressively more broken.
It didn't start with Trump, and its not going to end with Trump, either. If Trump's presidency is what brought your attention to this issue, I am glad to have you onboard! However, to be able to address the issue proper, you must know when and how the issue began (so you better know the when and how of fixing it).
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u/Educational-Seaweed5 18d ago
That requires basic education though.
And that has been constantly dismantled as well.
All according to plan since the olā Reaganomics days.
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u/Suspicious_Dingo_426 25d ago
They never cared about democracy in the first place. It was always about manipulating whatever systems exist to further their goals.
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u/Honest-Abe2677 25d ago
Make government such a bankrupt mess that it disappears. Then nobody in charge except the oligarchs and their spokesmen. The rightwing dream utopia.
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u/EmperorGrinnar 25d ago
Some More News with Cody Johnston just did an episode about Mitch's role and legacy in doing exactly that.
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u/No-Perspective4787 25d ago
That or they come face to face with The Second American Revolution to face real Justice , because these terrorists fhave murdered execution style Americans in the Streets of their neighborhoods for sticking up for 35 years long neighbors with ZERO criminal records and two kids already 17 & 18 who get deported by the illegal ICE TEAM of misfits. Trump's a broken record " the Wars almost over a few more weeks " he stated after 6 months of all War as far as Iran is concerned , Iran w the help of Russia navigation mapping , blew up our bases in the middle East , and now that the Houthi's took the narrow channel in the Red Sea , oil isn't getting through anymore & alternate routes take weeks. I think you're 100% correct in your assessment.
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u/ChronoLink99 25d ago
Not all R's, just the Trump toadies/sycophants/traitors.
OK, most of the R's.
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u/iRegretsEverything 25d ago
Zero consequences for actions, so they continue to do it knowing they can get away with it.
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u/Born_Organization455 25d ago
Man, imagine the indictments if we had a non-partisan non-corrupt DoJ!
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u/Fuckthegopers 25d ago
If republicans and their voters didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
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u/ThePatrickSays 25d ago
the people are supposed to hold them to accountability, but they have decided not to.
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u/FlounderKind8267 25d ago
Because there's no rules for Republicans. Only Democrats. And Republicans will be the first ones crying and citing laws the moment Democrats do anything Reps do to break the law
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u/HashRunner 25d ago
Exactly. If this had been Biden, the media would have made it nonstop news and break stories.
But when it's Mitch/Trump/GOP, fucking nothing.
And voters are just as bad.
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u/cheeze2005 25d ago
Dems need to be right next to him telling him how to vote lol. He seems easy enough to convinceĀ
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u/idontlikeanyofyou 25d ago
I mean Dianne Feinstein had no business being in the Senate for at least her final term.Ā
Hanging on too long and not passing the baton is a bipartisan issue.Ā
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u/Internal-Plantain-56 25d ago
<GLANCES ANGRILY AT RUTH BADER GINSBURGāS GHOST>
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u/DuckiesKhaki 25d ago
RBG not retiring under Obama because āØ she had to have girl power āØ literal resulted in so much of the trash we deal with today.
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u/FlounderKind8267 25d ago
I agree, but she was never this bad. She didn't have people telling her who to vote for, and her own party was the one urging her to leave office. She also stepped down from all of her boards and responsibilities when she started mentally declining. Her situation is not the same as this. Keeping people in the dark, controlling how Mitch votes, and doing all the sketchy things required to avoid a special election when he's clearly a shell with no mind up there at all. He can't even form words.
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u/Kairamek 25d ago
Yes they did. She was directed how to vote by aides, just the same. I remember it specifically because in my line of work we block someone's account when we see exactly this behavior from people around the elderly.
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u/FlounderKind8267 25d ago
You miss where she was actively giving her speech about her support for the bill. She didn't vote one way then was told to change, like McConnell did the other day. She already showed multiple times and said what she was going to vote for. She was just told it's time to vote, not time for speeches
Please go back and read the whole conversation between me and this guy before you start having your meltdown š¤¦
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u/Fuckthegopers 25d ago edited 25d ago
I'm so fucking sick of the "but both sides" bullshit rhetoric that I see on reddit constantly.
Is either party perfect? No, of course not. But only one party is actively destroying this country day after day.
Edit: if your problem with politicians is their age, say that. Don't make it a partisan thing.
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u/True_Protection6842 25d ago
She never had any business being in the Senate. She was so dumb she nearly let one of the most brutal serial killers walk.
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u/Honest-Abe2677 25d ago
That was wrong too. And most dems would agree. The problem is, if dems always do the right, polite thing and leave a supreme court nomination on the table or vote out old Congressmen and risk their seats, they will always be at a disadvantage against a party with cutthroat tactics, no ethical constraints, and no repercussions for illegal behavior.
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u/missinginput 25d ago
What does that have to do with the point you are replying to about the hypocrisy of laws being selectively enforced?
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u/Fuckthegopers 25d ago
Nothing, they just want to shoehorn a "but both sides" bullshit opinion.
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u/missinginput 25d ago
Damn well if it's both sides I should just skip voting or even vote Republican /s
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u/DmYourTanLinesPls 25d ago
Treason!!!!! He cannot think for himself and they are manipulating him to do what they want. This is taxation without representation. The GOP is going against the very founding reason of the United States. They are all traitors to the nation.
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u/crazy_urn 25d ago
What do you think corporations are buying with their campaign contributions. This is literally just republican politics as usual.
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u/DoctorWhooves2 25d ago
Yes they are Traitors but not for the taxation issue
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u/DmYourTanLinesPls 25d ago
Is is one of many issues. But it is not to be discounted
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u/EmperorGrinnar 25d ago
We live in the worst timeline.
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u/iSurfNerd 25d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/YnBi3LEAjEs9RsP5R0
The ghouls running the country currently š¤¬
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u/EpsteinandTrump 25d ago
He is a flesh suit at this point that may or may not be propped up with a tent peg or two.
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u/geddysbass2112 25d ago
With Republicans he may become their flesh light as well.
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u/woodworkerdan 25d ago
How is letting him remain in office not elder abuse?
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u/MommySkunk 25d ago
Usually I'm against elder abuse, but Mitch Deserves it I just wish they'd do it somewhere it doesn't fuck over the rest of us
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u/honeywhereismypenis 25d ago
I hate Mitch as much as the next guy, but I don't think it's a good idea to make a distinction between who is worthy of being protected from abuse or not.
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u/nhalliday 25d ago
Many of our problems in America right now stem from the fact that so many people seem to believe it's okay to do horrible things to other people as long as you don't like them.
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u/IllogicalLogistician 25d ago
All this from a government whoās trolled Joe Biden for using auto pen. The guy with stage 4 cancer was still standing at the 9/11 memorial while the grifter in chief was drooling.
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u/Subject-Yak4959 25d ago
How is this legal?
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u/scottyjrules 25d ago
Itās not, but when has that stopped republicans?
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u/Subject-Yak4959 25d ago
Well they got two months of this nonsense left and then the adults take over.
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u/Jedi-in-EVE 25d ago
Only if people actually stand up, get off of their phones, and go VOTE these feckless, criminal clowns out of office.
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u/TheDoomBlade13 25d ago
I'm confused about which law people think this is breaking? Senate rules aren't laws and assistance is explicitly allowed for everything that isn't a formal floor vote.
We need top to bottom reform of the entire system, no more relying on gentlemen's agreements or codes of conduct or whatever you want to call it.
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u/Ok-Oil7124 25d ago
Don't worry. Someone will refer this incident to justice for prosecution, and Trump's personal attorney will get right on it.
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u/alphazero925 25d ago
Because people used to croak long before this point, so age limits were never written into the laws because we didn't have the problem of massively increasing lifespans without fixing the cognitive decline that comes from that
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u/reddit001aa1 25d ago edited 25d ago
There's video of an assistant changing his vote after cast
Edit: he may not have changed his vote but needed assistance in making the correct vote choosing incorrectly at first but then voted as told before it was recorded
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u/TheDoomBlade13 25d ago
Assistance voting is explicitly allowed by Senate rules for everything except a floor vote.
I'm glad a lot of people are realizing how much gentlemen's agreements and duct tape were holding our system together. we need full reform.
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u/OrganicHistorian2576 25d ago edited 25d ago
As if he actually made a choice. Heād have to have a functioning brain to do that.
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u/geeves_007 25d ago
Super normal functional democracy things...Ā Ā
Keep telling yourself that youre the world's "shining beacon of democracy" while doing nothing about ghastly shit like this!Ā U S AĀ Ā U S A
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u/rudimentary_rudy 25d ago
There's no more rules, norms, laws, government. We just have an organized crime family running the country. Nothing will be done about this.
Also Andy, you are a coward.
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u/Curious-Antelope6171 25d ago
The left had Feinstein and the right has McConnell. Senate shouldn't be a nursing home.
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u/DieMensch-Maschine Š§ŠøŃŠøŃŃ 25d ago
When I was a kid growing up behind the Iron Curtain, I remember when people used to laugh at senile Brezhnev and the geriatric Supreme Soviet in the early 1980s. Now this is America.
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u/Lua_CW 25d ago
So much of modern America is all of the things I was told as a kid made the Soviet Union a worse country than ours. Empty store shelves, specialists being booked out for years (one of Reagan's favorite jokes!), surveillance, government corruption/meddling in domestic affairs, faithless electionsā¦
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u/laowildin 25d ago
I lived in China for several years in the 2010s and got told how awful and unfree everything there is (surveillance, puppet gov, pollution, no regulations) . Weird to have the US doing it's best to emulate all those same things.
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u/ElundusCaw 25d ago
A lot of Americans are starting to wake up to the fact that pretty much everything their government has criticized other countries of doing, was pure projection all along.
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u/Special-Reaction2029 25d ago
Median age of the senate is 64. Grassley is over 90. Sanders, McConnell, Risch and King are all over 80 and have been Senators for several terms. Sanders, especially, needs to find a successor in Vermont.
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u/Pablo_petty_plastic 25d ago
Boomers are destroying our future. Theyāre past retirement age yet pack elected officialsā officesĀ
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 25d ago
Especially with Sanders. In all these years he hasn't found anyone to mentor and guide for Vermont?
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u/Aglisito 25d ago
I don't know why it always says that he "nearly said no". He clearly said no, and was corrected.
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u/OriginalDrStrangeDOS 25d ago
Because the people who could remove him are the same people committing elder abuse to use him.
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u/Fanofnothing1980 25d ago
He is allowed because the republicans and trump do whatever the f they want. Vote these fools out America! Enough is enough
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u/During_theMeanwhilst 25d ago
Since when was being able to cognitively make a decision a requirement for the MAGA GOP?
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u/Bitter-Holiday1311 25d ago
The system is broken. MAGA is a pedophilic death cult, but democrats did a very similar dance regarding Feinstein. Letās not pretend fading geriatrics in Congress is only a GOP problem. Vote accordingly.
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u/Big_Issue8640 25d ago
He didnāt nearly vote with democrats he did vote with them till he was instructed to vote the other way. ELDER ABUSE
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u/estoypooping2 25d ago
Well the bill was on crypto currency regulations.
95% of those fossils were lost
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u/FloridaGatorAlum 25d ago
He looks like a corpse filled with embalming fluid. Remember when Republicans were having a fucking stroke when the thought the Dems were covering up Bidens health issues. Funny how they got quiet about that.
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u/mittenknittin 25d ago
Just think, it took 3 months of "strenuous physical therapy" to get him to this point
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u/Confident_Insect_616 25d ago
Because McConnel is the one who gets to decide who is allowed in the Senate. The supreme court, too, if memory serves. Very powerful turtle zombie.
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u/JRock1276 25d ago
He's a puppet. The big illusion in front of everyone, while they say "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain".
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u/Logical_Confusious 25d ago
That, in itself, is voter manipulation and is a crime... What the actual f*CK has the USA become? Seems like just another Trump business venture doomed to fail... Sad, very sad
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u/GorumGamer 25d ago
America has a long history of allowing invalids hold onto their power. Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Biden, Trump, - just a handful of presidents who fit the bill. The number of medically incapable members of the legislature is probably uncountable.
They more or less made enforcing laws on anyone powerful illegal ~60-70 years ago.
We need reform. Desperately.
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u/Any-Elderberry-7812 25d ago
He's the poster boy for what is wrong in American politics, and the ultimate example of why there should be term limits for all elected officials.
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u/qrowslament 25d ago edited 25d ago
Republicans theory is that government can't work for YOU (I.E. ordinary people) and since they go into governing with that mindset they make sure it's the case. Mitch returning in this state isn't too surprising when you realize they don't care about actually delivering for average every day Americans. Tell me one Republican policy that doesn't have to do with demonizing a group of people as either the platform or presented as the solutuon? Anything that actually helps people in practice? f you tell me demonizing a group like lgbtq, immigrants, or minority groups actually improve your financial situation, ability to raise a family, or your ability to get a home please inform me of how. This is a feature not a bug.
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u/BrushDesperate4287 25d ago
Becuase the most ignorant and evil white people call the shots. Imagine if he were a person of color.
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u/Aquarius2937 25d ago
In all honesty, this is the perfect way for this turd of a person to go out of the public eye. Karma is always sweet to watch.
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u/Ghosts_of_the_maze 25d ago
This is why I didnāt get Democrat voters demanding he come back or get replaced. I was fine with him skipping all the votes and committee meetings.
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u/Rockeye7 25d ago
He did vote ānoā the original time he was asked and the speaker went back to him and the second answer was āyesā after a little help .
What does the record reflect?
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u/Rambo_IIII 25d ago
To be fair, no Republican congressmen are cognitively able to make the decisions themselves
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u/MrMeowPantz 25d ago
They had to do the same with Fienstein or whatever her name was too. Neither of them should have stayed in office as long as they did.
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u/TheRagingSlunt 25d ago
Not just cognitively, but physically. His hand was stuck and he couldn't physically hit no.
Age limits NOW!
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u/JTBURR7650 25d ago
GREAT question! This goes back to my prior āAre you 12?ā (a reply I received) discussion about establishing by law a global maximum age limit for all politicians, appointees and nationās leaders. My reason to set the limit at 60-ish is that by the time a person is in their 2nd term (or 8 years in any position over 70; they, just like me at 76, have potentially disqualifying medical conditions, especially the ability to succeed usder enormous and constant stress. Consider how much reading, knowledge, staff administration, etc. is required of all members of Congress. While a person may have high IQ (by relative/subjective testing), long experience and large knowledge bases; just the potential for not retaining the capacity to make valued, timely decisions and/or actions is a risk every nationās citizens should have to deal with. As any successful businessperson knows, the capacity for making qualified, essentially correct determinations is vital to that businessā success, merit, profit and value to society/humanity as a whole. Geezā¦ thatās another topic for discussion on Reddit: "IQ Testing & Numeration." JTBURR7650
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u/TacoDoc2 25d ago
He did a stroke, Doctors took months to get him to a state where he could sit up almost on his own.
there is nobody home behind those eyes. Republicans are literally voting with a corpse.
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u/user_name-checksout 25d ago
Iām almost certain this is illegal. BUT, laws donāt matter anymore.
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u/BeerGogglesFTW 25d ago
He's no longer qualified to be a greeter at Walmart. Holding his current position as a US Senator is insane.
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u/runkitty85 25d ago
At this point, this is elder abuse. Heās a monster, heās responsible for a lot of the problems we as a country face now, and I wish him nothing good. But he is clearly suffering severe impairment and is being used and wheeled out as a puppet. Maybe this is what he would have wanted, to use his senile body as a puppet to fuck over the democrats one last time but Jesus, just let him end his miserable life quietly at home.
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u/Pristine_Crazy1744 25d ago
There's no consequences or accountability.
To paraphrase my favorite TV show: The Democrats are a bunch of ineffectual dorks in fleece vests.
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u/yetagainitry 25d ago
Yet they will still go to the āsleepy joeā bullshit while defending this animated corpse
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u/ReasonableJello 25d ago
Isnāt this technically the same BS Trump used to say about Bidenās autopen.
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u/BigBlue1210 25d ago
Weren't republicans complaining about Biden using autopen because they believe someone else was using it while here we clearly see someone is instructing McConnell what to do? The party of hypocrites strikes again.
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u/OriginalLie9310 25d ago
But we have to hear never ending conspiracies about the auto pen Biden used (something Trump also uses).
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u/TexaportGamer 25d ago
More people should be mad about this. This country is a farce. And this chat boards isn't much better. Threatening to ban me for speaking my mind and needing to change words.
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u/TamalesHarvard 25d ago
The Weekend at Bernie's references were supposed to be a joke