r/ironicsigns • u/saltytallow • May 11 '26
The irony of this, is what’s wrong with American health 😂
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u/rcgy May 12 '26
I'll tell ya what's really ironic...
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u/saltytallow May 12 '26
It ain’t that deep, mate. Diabetics (of all types) shouldn’t be eating donuts, as they have a ton of sugar. It’s just funny that they’re raising money for a blood sugar issue, with items that spike your sugar lol..
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u/rcgy May 12 '26
Excuse you, I can eat whatever the fuck I like, provided I dose insulin for it. Kindly educate yourself.
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u/drugihparrukava May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26
Well everything "spikes" our blood glucose as type 1. That's why we die without insulin. We can die fasted as in having no food ever. Our disease wastes us away painfully but quickly without insulin. That's why the isolation of the insulin molecule a tad over 100 years ago was a life saving movement for type 1's.
So what "Spikes" us includes fasting, lack of sleep, anaerobic exercise, periods, site placement not working, incorrect basal rates, incorrect i:c ratios or not adjusted to time of day, incorrect Warsaw method bolusing, cannula out of place, incorrect pre bolus timing, not bolusing for protein correctly, illness, stress, depending on where you are in your menstrual cycle your basal rates change...over 42 factors raise our blood glucose. If your BG goes up after a doughnut, you didn't bolus correctly or your i:c ratio is incorrect.
Spike is an odd term borne out of the insulin resistance community though, not our community. If we don't have insulin, we die and our blood glucose remains dangerously high no matter what. Spike is a misnomer regarding type 1. People need to reframe what they heard about "Diabetes" online and listen to those with different types of diabetes, as each type is a different disease or condition, with different pathophysiologies, causes, outcomes and treatments.
"raising money for a blood sugar issue" Again, no that's not our disease. It's an autoimmune disease with 6 affected hormones. We are insulin sensitive, like you and everyone else (anyone else without insulin resistance that is). We react the same way to things as a normal person does; we just have to manually inject insulin.
This is a great topic to discuss with type 1's as we always help people understand what our disease is. Visit r/type1diabetes or r/diabetes_t1
But as I didn't know people believe I cannot eat sugar, can you please advise what to do if hypo ;) Because our glucagon pathway is affected as well, it won't raise our blood glucose naturally in response to a hypo, so we need sugar.
TLDR: we obviously need a new name for our autoimmune disease. It’s not insulin resistance mitigated by dietary changes. It’s not even related to type 2. Let the type 1’s manage their own autoimmune disease and fundraisers whatever way we like 👍
And I sincerely cannot comprehend why people will argue with a type 1, online and IRL, about our very own disease. And they base their arguments on insulin resistance/type 2 (not related to type 1). It's slightly maddening. But I suppose that's why at any one time over 1/3 of T1's require therapy literally developed specifically for type 1's to deal with these situations. So the best way is to educate.
Edit 2: OP "diabetic diet" isn't a thing for type 1. Again, you are viewing type 1 through the lens of type 2 depiste many comments explaining the difference. Poor diet cannot lead to type 1. t1d literally does not work on a dietary/insulin resistance pathway. Many people use the word type 1 just because they require insulin, but aren't actually type 1. There's specific lab work to determine our disease. If your friend was heavyset, that in itself did not cause his type 1, just a sad coincidence but there are people of all ages and sizes who can get type 1 as it does not discriminate. Generally, we are underweight to normal weight though. I mean, every normal person will strive for a good way of eating. Some people have barriers and can't access fresh foods not healthier options, but overall I don't think it's a problem if someone wants a doughnut on the odd occasion.
If type 1 was dietary, then why do you think GLP-1's such as ozempic are prescribed for type 2, but are contraindicated for type 1?
Or another way to question this line of thinking is, if Tzield exists for type 1, why does it not work for type 2?
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u/susanna514 May 12 '26
Fellow type 1 here, what’s the specific therapy called? I’m actually interested in that.
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u/drugihparrukava May 12 '26
Depending on your location, Breakthrough T1D has a list of therapists and psychologist who've received additional training specifically for T1D's. Here's one link: https://directory.breakthrought1d.ca/
Some of the therapists also have T1 themselves so it's quite a unique perspective. Here's one link but again, every country with a breakthrough t1D may or may not have this resource. (Barring finding a t1-specific therapist, the next thing would be one who specializes in chronic illness but I've never spoken to one so can't say what it's like).
I did speak to a t1 therapist about the lived experience of T1D stigma and after one discussion i had tools how to deal with this and was just a great chat being "heard" by someone who actually experiences this as well.
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u/susanna514 May 12 '26
Hey so that’s not true. Type 1’s, which I’ve been for over twenty years, can eat a normal diet which can include high sugar treats. Especially with modern advancements, we just have to eat with common sense the same way other people should. Some diabetics may choose to follow a lower carb diet but with modern insulin and technology it’s not usually medically necessary.
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u/shrinkingnadia May 11 '26
It would be much nicer if the profits went to diabetes, treatments, or prevention or awareness, or something other than direct funding diabetes. 😛
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u/shrinkingnadia May 11 '26
Well there you go, all the more reason "awareness" should be included in the sign.
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u/musuperjr585 May 12 '26
American education system failed OP
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u/saltytallow May 12 '26
Naw, mate. Poor diet and other factors can absolutely lead to contacting type 1. While it’s rare, obviously, it can still happen. I worked with a heavyset gentleman in his 50s, years back. He developed type 1.
I’m simply saying it’s ironic, that donuts are awful for you, and on a diabetic diet (including type 1), ya shouldn’t be eating donuts!! Haha
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u/Turbulent-Parsnip512 May 12 '26
Type 1 Diabetes is NOT caused by diet or lifestyle, no matter what age it's diagnosed.
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u/Anardrius May 12 '26
No amount of donuts are going to kill the beta cells in your pancreas. Beta cells are responsible for creating insulin.
Type 1 Diabetes: Beta cells killed off in autoimmune response, no insulin production.
Type 2 Diabetes: Live beta cells, insulin production insufficient to reduce blood sugar to normal levels. No autoimmune involvement.
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u/IWantToBuyAVowel May 12 '26
Ah Food City. The place where I once asked an elderly lady if she wanted to donate to Juvenile Diabetes and she bitched for a solid minute about parents not feeding their kids "properly" and I didn't have the proper verbiage to explain pancreas functions (or lack there of) at the time
At least they're calling it type 1 now, in their signage, hopefully it saves some poor cashier from elderly rants.
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u/scoutloner May 11 '26
Type 1 is much rarer than type 2.
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u/ArbysLunch May 11 '26
Not in my family.
Mother and brother are type 1. Dad and older brother are type 2. I'm the outlier.
Then there's a maternal aunt and her son, both type 1. And 2 cousins from another maternal aunt.
Dad's side is type 2. Grandma and gramps, both dead now. All 4 of their kids. A few second and third cousins, too.
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u/drugihparrukava May 12 '26
Were you all tested for any of the MODY types?
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u/ArbysLunch May 12 '26
Not that I'm aware.
We're the kind of people who are usually caught by surprise by things.
I have annual physical labs, my numbers come back fine.
I'm also the only regular cannabis consumer of my direct family.
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u/ArbysLunch May 12 '26
There's just not enough research. There have been a few studies, mostly self-report situations, but nothing controlled enough to determine correlation vs causation.
It is awfully coincidental that the handful of potheads in my extended family are also in relatively good health, non-diabetics, that have smoked weed for most of their lives. But at this point, it's simply that, coincidence.
I want to believe weed is beneficial, in the same way I want to believe in Bigfoot. He's out there, man, just like the answers on weed.
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u/TheJmaster May 12 '26
OP needs some education – I'm normally upset when I see someone spreading life threatening misinformation. Please lookup the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes OP.
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u/drugihparrukava May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
Please stop. Type 1 is an autoimmune disease. You can fundraise with anything for that disease and it's not diet related. Tired "sugar" trope and it's not even related to our disease.
r/diabetes_t1 and r/diabetes_t1 to learn more :)
Edit: just hoping to help educate and to stop the stigma about us.