r/starcitizen • • 1d ago

DISCUSSION Any clue what the three forked areas on the bottom of the station are for?

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To me, these look like Capital docks for space only capitals such as the Javelin or Odin. They have bumpers near the inside to halt momentum, landing pads on each prong that host repair, refuel, and restock capabilities for any on-board craft.

I don't see them often, but I'd figure that persistent capitals wouldn't need docking very often.

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u/TheSethnix 1d ago

Exactly that, they're for the big capital ships like the javelin

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u/Ok_Equipment2450 1d ago

Ah, so my theory was correct. I thought I read that persistent capitals wouldn't be dockable at stations so I was making sure.

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u/Mr_Roblcopter Shiny Railen.. Ooooo... 1d ago

When the tours for those ships happened, that is where they docked. 

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u/Ok_Equipment2450 1d ago

Didn't even know there were tours for the Javelin, pretty sweet.

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u/Mr_Roblcopter Shiny Railen.. Ooooo... 1d ago

https://youtu.be/2iuv2elngas?t=110&is=WYtgWWuawx-2ATUI

Yep, though it is only a small portion of the ship. 

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u/Circuit_Guy 1d ago

Interestingly it's almost exactly what we see during the SQ gameplay demo / trailer. Even the "under construction" area.

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u/tinman282 1d ago

As far as we know, the jav will be able to be stored with these docks - it won’t be able to use XL hangers as it’s too big nor can it use regular docks.

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u/Strange-Scarcity Hornet Enthusiast 1d ago

They will be able to dock at stations. That would be for taking on supplies, effecting repairs, rearmament, refueling, plus transfer cargo and personnel.

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u/DwarfKingHack 1d ago

They will be able to dock at stations, but supposedly the larger ones will not have the option to store them at stations. 

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u/lmbrjcksn 1d ago

That begs the question, where will they be stored and called up?

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u/DwarfKingHack 1d ago

That's the neat part. They won't.

Allegedly, anyway, the largest capital ships will always be in-game and therefore will be vulnerable to attack 24/7. We'll see how it actually plays out, though. They may have to compromise and allow some of the larger ships to store at large stations.

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u/lmbrjcksn 1d ago

OK, so how do you get it the first time? Will they use the same insurance system as other ships? If not, what happens when one is destroyed?

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u/EdrickV 1d ago

They talked about the Bengal once, saying players would have to find one and fix it up. And then it would be like a mobile base, and thus vulnerable to attack.

At least in theory, if you parked it in empty space somewhere off the main paths, it could be really hard for others to attack, unless it broadcasts its position or something. Bengal will not be ownable by players, just occupied and controlled by them.

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u/Xphurrious 1d ago

This was so long ago, I'd hope it's still true

But after the Odin, them selling Bengals is entirely on the table imo

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u/DwarfKingHack 1d ago

No idea. We might find out whenever the Javelin or maybe even the Kraken becomes playable, or we might get a placeholder system at first. I'm guessing you can have them them delivered to the docking port of any space station.

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u/DeepCelebration8256 where is my Arrastra 1d ago

there are even elevators into the station to get to arrival,

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u/KingDread306 1d ago

The larger ships (Like the Javelin) are unable to land on planets. I don't think they have landing gear. The idea is that you dock at the station and then use a shuttle ship like the MPUV to fly down to the planet.

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u/WARDEN330 1d ago

It is a UEE Naval installation built into most major stations, it is covered in weapons systems and is a No Fly Zone, don't recommend tresspassing down there.

few years ago, the ILW events took place there, Capital ships dock and there are large landing pads for fighters and support craft.

there is a MAP in the free fly mode that you can fly around it and land on it, and even run around on foot the whole platform,

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u/WARDEN330 1d ago

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u/WARDEN330 1d ago edited 1d ago

I also forgot to mention their are stand alone stations in Stanton that are UEE outposts there is one near microtech they are smaller versions of these instalations with only 2 forks instead of three.

The name of the arena commander map and the station in Stanton is INS Jericho.

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u/WARDEN330 1d ago

INS Jericho

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u/cmontour 1d ago

For those playing SC long enough to remember the old XenoThreat server wide events with the Javelin parked at Jericho Station.

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u/Walltar 1d ago

That is military station where Javelin docks when there are Javelin tours.

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u/Skamanda42 1d ago

Has it been that long since the first Xenothreat event? I think that's the last time we saw a Javelin docked somewhere...

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u/DaFischers ARGO CARGO 1d ago

As the others said, these are the military docking stations. There is also landing pads for smaller ships. As well as huge deffence cannons.

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u/hagermanr new user/low karma 1d ago

During events where they give Javelin tours, the UEE ship will dock there so people can board them and look around.

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u/Ingram47 1d ago

Honestly if things work the way I think they should, the only way to reasonably afford a large ship like that would be to keep it docked in a place like that until use.

Preferably with player owned stations being the dock location instead of these NPC orbitals.

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u/Logically_Challenge2 1d ago

That's how real world warships function. It is very rare for them to spend more than 50% of their life cycle away from port.

Us privateers have a but of an issue though if we don't have our own bsses. Ports charge moorage fees based on vessel size, and once you get outside of the typicsl size of recreational craft, those fees spiral hardcore.

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u/lmbrjcksn 1d ago

Charging to store ships... now there's an idea!

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u/Turbulent_Ad7877 1d ago

They have stated this is coming. Owning a large fleet will be expensive. Not only maintenance and rearming. Storing ships away from your home hangar will have storage fees associated as well.

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u/Flaksim Vice Admiral 21h ago

Now to be fair, they say that a ton of things are coming, or have said so in the past only to backtrack. Unless something is ingame, it's all hypothetical and with zero guarantees it'll ever happen.

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u/lmbrjcksn 18h ago

I tend to agree, but storage rent would be such an easy thing to implement I'm surprised it's not already in game. There's very little in the game that's currently a money sink, so even though we had a wipe recently anyone that's putting in a bit of effort has tens of millions of auec or more. This could be an easy way to burn some of that off.

You could even implement a free grace period for people, so that if you're always playing and using your one ship you don't get charged. The first 48 irl hours incurs no fees. After that anything in storage racks up storage fees. So if you're new, have only a couple ships, or play frequently you probably wouldn't ever need to pay. 

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u/HolyBors 1d ago

Oh I so hope that Bengals being un-storeable and always have to be in universe either docked or hidden in an astroid field or something.

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u/Ingram47 1d ago

Oh yeah, proofing out of existence I hope isn't a thing.

These things should be incredibly powerful, but strategically vulnerable when "at anchor" so to speak.

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u/Hekantonkheries 1d ago

Considering all the other changes, not only do i imagine there will be hundreds of begals more than they originally pitched (because thry will be sold as a package despite originally pitched as ingame goals), i also do not imagine them not just creating giant hangars eventually for "convenience" or complete inability to keep them from vanishing

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u/The_Rex_Regis bmm 1d ago

While this is 100% my own theory

I have a gut feeling the Bengal is gonna operate like the Odin since we already know that they will be buildable at player shipyard vs the old plan of a set amount of Bengals that players would fight over

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u/Croue 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion but personally I hope they eventually do away with the XL hangars almost completely in favor of external docking like this for any ship that's upper S5 to S6 and up. Only very few very large stations should be able to accommodate subcapital and capital size ships in fully internal hangars like we have currently.

Rather than the current docking ports with jetways, they should add actual docks like the struts in the OP. Maybe giant shed-like docks that are partly enclosed with the one side open sort of like a moonpool in space for S5-S6. With a few of these sort of satellite hangar "hubs" all localized around the main station for up to 15-20 ships total or something like that.

Right now these massive internal hangars really mess with the sense of scale and logistics around large and huge ships especially IMO.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ask1990 1d ago

Unless you’re based in Levski or Pyro - any visit to a station (bar your home) in an XL ship requires exactly this.

How would you propose to load up an XL ship, ready for a complex mission - perhaps loaded with vehicles etc. if the ship is docked?
Are you expecting CIG to give us multiple hangars in each station?

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u/TennysonEStead Terrapin/Carrack/F7A MKII/MOLE/MSR 1d ago

Ahh, Port Tressler. There are many Rest and Relax Stations, but this one is mine.

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u/katyusha-the-smol Idris-M - Moderator 1d ago

Space drydocks / docking ports for capital ships. Currently inactive but ILW / IAE tours use it a lot.

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u/Sinclair1982 oldman 1d ago

In my experience, they are for crashing in to.

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u/AWerewolfDad 1d ago

They’re for capitals.

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u/Leromer 1d ago

Very big spaghetti

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u/Vebio drake 1d ago

I wish they would let us land there. I dont know why we have so many impound zones.

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u/EZGames21 1d ago

UEEN docks there. Think of it as a military shipyard/dock/base

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u/Mysterious-Box-9081 ARGO CARGO 1d ago

Capital ships.

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u/NivekIyak 1d ago

Cap ships, the real ones

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u/pasenast 1d ago

Large ship docking and future location to turn in your bounty.

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u/ReallyKyole 1d ago

Security dock, that's what the lift says.

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u/Dr_Wigglespank 1d ago

Isn't that where you wait for your sister to pick you up, after your dad chops your hand off with his lightsaber?

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u/ubergeek801 18h ago

No! It's not true! I'll never join you!

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u/Agent_Eldritch new user/low karma 1d ago

Military capital docks

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u/nah_notnow me want Fleet gameplay, but me no Friends 1d ago

I think its for the bengal. the front fits in pretty Perfect. also, I’ve Seen Images of a javelin there.

in General (as far as i know): this is UEEN (Military) docking, so they dont have to Share the civilian Part of the Station

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u/Tayner73 1d ago

If I remember correctly it is specifically for Navy capital ships.

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u/Big-Yesterday9086 1d ago

You can EVA down there and use those elevators to get back in the station. But only one way

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u/Mr_StephenB Grand Admiral 1d ago

They are large docking ports, or military docking ports. It was used during one of the earlier Invictus events where the javelin would fly around the system and dock at these locations.

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u/RayaErys RSI Perseus 1d ago

Flagship-class capital ships like, Javelin, Bengal, Odin, Pegasus, etc...

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u/Chemical_Pudding_173 1d ago

You sometimes get moved there at some stations (like seraphim) if you are repositioned for whatever reason.

The elevator labels them as Secure Docking 1 / 2 / 3

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u/Charon711 aegis 11h ago

I wanna see 3 capital ships dock on it facing the same direction and go full boost. /jk

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u/crazy0ne 1d ago

It's a Last Stand Battle Platform.

Adds a +3 dramatic effect multiplier and will dynamically will boots weapon damage for any surrounding ships to increase the chaos factor for epic screenshot backgrounds.

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u/LeeWhite187 8h ago

Naval berths, for the largest ships.