r/math • u/al3arabcoreleone • 10h ago
What mathematicians should know about the Lean Theorem Prover
terrytao.wordpress.comA brief explanation of proof assistants
r/math • u/al3arabcoreleone • 10h ago
A brief explanation of proof assistants
r/math • u/LiqvidJS • 1d ago
Let me preface by saying that, while I’m a mathematician, I am not a logician. I’m simply curious about the field. This post is about things that have always bugged me about undecidability.
I’ll take the Collatz conjecture (CC) as an example. Suppose the CC is undecidable in ZFC. Then, if we believe ZFC is consistent, we cannot find a counterexample. If we did, this would contradict it being undecidable. This is strange to me: we would have a statement for which we can’t show its truth while knowing we cannot find a counterexample.
Compare this with the continuum hypothesis (CH), the statement people usually refer to as example of undecidable statement. If we choose it to be true, we know there is a subset S of the real numbers which has cardinality between countable and the continuum. CH being undecidable implies that if we believe ZFC is consistent, we will not stumble into such an S by construction (say with schema specification, etc.). If we did, this would contradict ZFC. But that’s ok, because not every subset of the reals can necessarily be obtained ‘constructively’ through schema specification etc. (I am being informal here, but I believe there is a formal way to say this). So us not being able to produce a counterexample of CH does not mean that one cannot exist.
To me, this seems like a different flavour to CC. There, it seems that any counterexample would be constructive (it’s just a natural number!), and hence, if CC is undecidable, such a counterexample cannot exist.
I informally define ‘concrete’ statements are ones which are about ‘constructive’ objects. Thus any counterexample to a ‘concrete’ statement would be constructive, and hence undecidability of a ‘concrete’ statement would ‘say’ that no such counterexample exists (otherwise we would be able to construct it!).
I am left with the question: should we expect ‘concrete’ statements, such as CC, to be decidable? Maybe there is a formal answer to this question, by formalising what a ‘concrete’ statement is, and showing that such statements are decidable. Though, to me, this seems unlikely to be possible, by Gödel.
Moreover Gödel’s incompleteness theorem holds just under Peano Arithmetic, and so it seems to be saying there is a priori no difference between a statement about the natural numbers such as CC and a statement about cardinalities such as CH. But my intuition cannot help but telling me these are of different nature. Am I wrong to assume this?
A more general version of my question is, why as mathematicians do we expect the questions we are working on to be decidable? We get a sense that a proof or counterexample exists, and it seems that outside of certain ‘non-constructive’ parts of mathematics, we never run into such issues.
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r/math • u/moschles • 2d ago
r/math • u/gameringman • 1d ago
My analysis class is taught by professor X. My professor last year (professor Y) said "a letter of rec from X is very important, so go to his office hours and impress him." I have been trying to do that, I trounced the entire class on each quiz and midterm...and he still clearly doesn't even know my name.
I'm not really sure what I can do, I guess I just don't know how to "play the game" properly. I just want him to know my name, at the very least.
r/math • u/Necessary-Wolf-193 • 3d ago
r/math • u/non-orientable • 3d ago
What do you do when you feel like you can’t problem-solve? At least, not at the level that you think you are expected to, or not at the level at which you think your peers are able to? What do you do when you feel inadequate, like, well, an imposter?
This experience is stupidly common, including in mathematics. And yet, it is so very rare that we take the time to talk about it in an organized fashion; in some sense, I feel like we have relegated the topic to cartoonists. (Who do a marvelous job, by the way, but I don't think that is the same.) Had I my way, I would make every class that did an introduction to proofs spend some time on imposter syndrome---it's just that important.
I don't have any magic bullet for how to deal with imposter syndrome. But if you want to hear my thoughts about how to combat it, and my own experience with it, you may want to give this piece a read.
Read the full post (for free) on Substack: Imposter Syndrome
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Hey everyone. A week ago I started experimenting with finding new lower bounds for ramsey numbers. I did this AI based in an empty project where Codex (task: find new lower bounds for the ramsey numbers listed on wikipedia). After 3 simple prompts, GPT 6.1 Sol found a new lower bound of 344 for R(8, 10) (previously 343), to my suprise, this was replicable in three different GPT 6 Pro sessions in the web UI, with a single prompt. Despite much more compute and token usage (~1.5 billion tokens), I didn't find any further with the fully automated setup, so I started getting more involved myself and suggesting ideas, we were able to push the lower bound to 345 for R(8, 10), and also able to push the lower bound for R(6, 8) to 135 (previously at 134). The bounds for R(8, 10) and R(6, 8) stood unchanged for more than 10 years now.
The way AI helped here the most was the sheer volume of different search methods one could quickly iterate over. Experiments that would have taken weeks to set up in the past can now be orchestrated within minutes.
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https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.12122
https://github.com/fritzcremer/ramsey-lower-bounds
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r/math • u/RingularCirc • 4d ago
It seems to be very much a common knowledge now that harmonics of an (almost) periodic audio signal do evidently stem from Ancient Greek investigations into musical harmony, which was intertwined and likely gave us harmonic means and harmonic sequence/series, means likely being derived from the sequence like it can be done with cases of arithmetic and geometric sequences and means.
The details are hovewer not clean at all. Presumably, not even in the Hellenistic period had it been known about harmonics in sound. One question is then, if a noun parallel to harmonic (which should stem from Greek, obviously) was in use, what meanings did it have in mathematics and music theory of the time. I see at least two options as very probable:
Note how right now, a very much related technique of playing stringed instruments is indeed called "harmonics" in English (but "flageolets" in some other languages). The second question (that's less related to this sub) is precise etymology of this name: I would expect flageolets should be a technique older than both the discovery of Fourier series and connecting string and air channel lengths to their fundamental frequencies.
Also a question 1.5 is relating the answer to the first question to harmonic means and harmonic series. For example if (a) held, the answer is very much warranted and shouldn't be deduced without historical sources.
There are probably a bunch of additional minor questions that I can't refine out of the mess in my head right now, that would be obvious when one tries to set things straight on this entire topic and encounters important details that answer them. For example as far I know, frequencies of sound weren't known in antiquity (but that's really a question to answer definitively as well!), so we can't attribute "reciprocalness" of harmonic mean and so on to the inverse relation between length and frequency. Instead it should probably be entirely due to there being a sort of a natural order to harmonics (in the sense of (b)) coming one after another at 1/1, 1/2, 1/3, ... of the string's length —but is that the factual reason that had been used?
You see even a mathematicians' brains would otherwise be glad to fill in the "obvious" blanks and I feel that a great lot of people think they sorta know the story about this. I'd of course expect it of non-historical music theorists even more because in their case it's actually quite important to talk about time to time —whereas in mathematics, harmonic mean and harmonic series (and wasn't there something else?) is just a neat and somewhat old-fashioned (as is, again, common) term flavoring that evokes associations that no one has to unpack to work with the actual math. But that may still give birth to mythology when one gets interested just a little. So it's a good point to look around and try remembering while the ancient sources may be still laying around! And if there's already a piece of work on this very topic already written, the easier it is to find it again (I couldn't, but my work with references is abysmal).
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r/math • u/FuzzyPDE • 5d ago
It could be you , or someone you know or someone famous.
But I’m trying to venture into that path now.
I know all fields require some learning, but boy the amount of reading I have to do for every single one of my problems just to learn new fundamentals to do problems is so tiresome.
I’m a postdoc in my last year and I still only have 4 results. And not impressive either just took a long time from reading so I want to go into something where I can flex my problem solving skills more than reading.
Do you know of anyone who switched field and realized their true calling lies somewhere else?
Edit: thanks for the replies, I realize I should probably have specify switching from different fields of math to another.
This story is relatively well known in the Russian-speaking math community, but I feel it is almost completely unknown outside of it. Which is a shame, since it is so amusing! So I compiled it from a couple of sources, heavily edited it, and then machine-translated it. Hope you enjoy!
Before the Revolution and during the years of the New Economic Policy, Israel Moiseevich Gelfand's father ran a small private mill. Because of his “non-working-class background,” in 1928, while still in the ninth grade, the young Gelfand was expelled from vocational school as the son of an exploiter.
When Gelfand was finishing the ninth grade, his mathematics teacher told him: “There is nothing more I can teach you. Go to Moscow, find Moscow State University, and at the university find the Department of Mechanics and Mathematics. Continue your studies there, and you will become a great mathematician.”
At the university, however, the ninth-grader got no further than the dean's secretary: they could not enroll him without documents certifying completion of secondary education. He decided to stay in Moscow, and, to make a living, found a job as a cloakroom attendant at the Lenin Library. There, alongside his work, he continued his education on his own.
One day, while reading a monograph on higher mathematics, he was noticed by Andrey Nikolaevich Kolmogorov, a young but already famous mathematician. Kolmogorov was surprised to see such a young man reading a book so obviously beyond his age, so he approached Gelfand and asked him who he was and why he was reading such a difficult book.
Gelfand answered all his questions, but Kolmogorov still could not believe that he genuinely understood what he was reading. He gave Gelfand several problems related to the subject, hoping to test him, and arranged to meet him the next day to check his solutions.
The next day, all the problems had been solved. But even then Kolmogorov could not quite believe that someone could be so gifted. He supposed that Gelfand simply knew the contents of a large number of mathematics books extremely well and had found the solutions in them. So he gave Gelfand several more problems, this time considerably harder ones, and gave him several days to solve them.
When they met at the appointed time, all the problems had been solved. Kolmogorov began checking the solutions, and his eyes grew wider and wider.
“Please forgive me for doubting that you had found the solutions to those first problems yourself. Now I see that you could not possibly have read these solutions anywhere. You see, this particular problem... had been an open problem until now.”
After that, Kolmogorov took Gelfand on as his graduate student. Thus Gelfand became a graduate student without ever having attended a university -- or even finished secondary school. BTW, the details of the first meeting between Kolmogorov and Gelfand are, of course, anecdotal, but the other parts of the story are accurate.
upd: some important clarifications provided by r/bluesam3
r/math • u/Tazerenix • 6d ago
r/math • u/Nostalgic_Brick • 5d ago
Just a fun question I've been thinking about:
The following zero-sum game is played between the Dealer and team Alice & Bob. The Dealer receives an odd number N of fair coin tosses in sequence. Whenever a coin is tossed, the Dealer sees the result and then chooses whether to show it to Alice or Bob. Both players are aware of the turns on which they receive the coin flip results.
At the end of the N tosses, both Alice and Bob simultaneously guess whether there are more heads or tails in total, and score one point per correct guess. We allow all players including the Dealer to randomize their choices. Alice and Bob can agree on a strategy beforehand, possibly involving some initial coordinated randomization but cannot communicate after the game starts.
Team Alice & Bob can score at least an expected payoff of 1 by guessing randomly and independently. The question is thus how much they can improve on this.
Question: Let V_N be the value of the N coin game for team Alice & Bob. Is it true that
V_N = 1 +KN^{-1/2} + o(N^{-1/2})?
for some constant K > 0?
If so, to what extent can we determine K and the corresponding optimal, or asymptotically optimal strategies?
r/math • u/backyard_tractorbeam • 6d ago
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r/math • u/non-orientable • 6d ago
What are instances of mathematical objects that are: 1) useful (in that they have been used to prove various interesting results), and 2) for which it is impossible to come up with even a single explicit example?
I know of one: non-principal ultrafilters, which this post is devoted to describing. (Briefly, they are used in topology and model theory, such as for constructing ultraproducts, which can be used to give a rigorous construction of infinitesimals.) If you know of others, please share!
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r/math • u/platonic_solidz • 7d ago
According to the article, the “untimely death” is an “apparent suicide,” however this is disputed by a community member describing themselves as a personal friend of the victim.
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r/math • u/canyonmonkey • 7d ago
"[Gaussian elimination] is the simplest way to solve linear systems of equations by hand, and also the standard method for solving them on computers. [...] [It] transforms a full linear system into an upper-triangular one by applying simple linear transformations on the left."\)
A pivoting strategy (strategy for swapping rows &/or columns) in necessary for generic linear systems, otherwise applying Gaussian elimination to certain invertible matrices will result in dividing by zero.
Enter Gaussian elimination with partial pivoting. At step k, when considering the k-th column, choose the the i-th row (i ≥ k) with the largest number in absolute value. (Partial pivoting is less computationally expensive than other pivoting strategies, and is commonly used in practice, see Wikipedia: [1] & [2].)
The question arises: Is Gaussian elimination with partial pivoting stable? That is, for a given matrix n-by-n matrix A, we compute its Gaussian elimination with partial pivoting:
P*A = L*U,
where P is a permutation matrix, L a unit lower-triangular matrix, and U an upper triangular matrix. Define the growth factor ρ as the ratio:
ρ = (max |Uᵢ‚ⱼ|) / (max |Aᵢ‚ⱼ|),
where the maximum is taken over all indices 1 ≤ i ≤ n and 1 ≤ j ≤ n.
By "Is Gaussian elimination with partial pivoting stable?" we mean "Is ρ bounded?", for some sense of the word "bounded".
Professor Lloyd N. Trefethen offered a $1,000 reward in 2012 for "for a proof that Gaussian elimination with partial pivoting is stable in [a certain] probabilistic sense", for Gaussian random matrices,† as he outlined in SIAM News: https://www.siam.org/publications/siam-news/articles/the-smart-money-s-on-numerical-analysts/.
This past week he posted a partial result on arXiv:
Trefethen (2026), Instability of Gaussian elimination is exponentially rare (proof of partial result), https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.04761
Yesterday, Professor John Urschel posted a full resolution on arXiv, "[proving] that the growth factor [ρ] of a Gaussian matrix is at most n1/2 + o(1\) with overwhelming probability, that is, 1 - n-α for any α":
Urschel (2026), On the Growth Factor of Random Matrices, https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.06785
\) Trefethen, L. N., & Bau III, D. (1997). Numerical Linear Algebra. Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics (SIAM).
† Random matrices with independent, normally distributed entries.
r/math • u/StateOfTheWind • 8d ago
r/math • u/Short_Bluebird_3845 • 7d ago
From complex numbers, duals, split, some quirky 3D space, quaternions, up to hypercomplex. There are, indeed, many ways to write a vector as a number and play with them, some more obscure or specialized than others. What are your favourite N-dimensional number systems (or, more formally, algebras over the Reals)?
NOTE: Last time I asked, which was for ambiguous notation, you talked about them from spite and hate. I'm not sure if in math the line between pain and love blurs... I just wanted to ask for it as well lol.