r/askanything • u/okymoney • 6h ago
Political Question If Ilhan Omar is doing illegal activities then should Trump be impeached as well?
You cant go after someone when youre the most corrupt president ever.
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u/jar36 6h ago
that's exactly the kind of president that goes after someone else
maga loves that he is above the law. They only care about power
They have no interest in governing for a better quality of life for all Americans
Anything they can do to cause harm is not below them.
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u/CableExotic3891 6h ago
They hate Democrats plain and simple. They'd collapse our government just to keep the Democrats from getting ahead.
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u/No_Huckleberry2350 5h ago
The raid on her home has to do with supposed irregularities in the documents her father filed when she was a child. Trump's wife took 10 modeling assignments while on a tourist visa, which is a much clearer violation than anything Omar might have done as a child.
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u/JohnnySpartacus 2h ago
She was 18, not a child, and swore under penalty of perjury that she was legitimately married to a fellow who very much seems to be her blood brother so that he could immigrate too.
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u/Forikorder 2h ago
who very much seems to be her blood brother so that he could immigrate too.
based on what evidence?
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u/l008com 6h ago
Trump should be rotting in prison but half this country is too fucking stupid to remember he tried to over throw the government so they voted for him again cause "idk whatever joe rogan said to"
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u/hfskdhdbfkxjchsjxhdb 5h ago
It’s mind blowing how many brain dead mouth breathers we have living in the US that support this stupidity. Fake patriotism is rampant.
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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 6h ago
1/3 is in a cult and 1/3 sat out. That’s how we ended up with the most corrupt President in US history.
On the plus side, 45 is no longer the most corrupt we had, because 47 is waaay worse.
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u/OrdinaryNo2959 6h ago
Trump has been impeached twice
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u/Thausgt01 6h ago
But the process couldn't get past the Senate, because more than 50% of the Senators refused to follow the law in favor of supporting their party. So technically Felon Donald John Trump has only faced the possibility of impeachment twice.
So far.
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u/DiverseVoltron 6h ago
No, both impeachments were successful. The Senate was too full of party-over-country traitors who failed to convict and remove.
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u/moosetube 6h ago
They refused to even consider evidence.
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u/beachbum818 5h ago
No... he was actually impeached, twice. You can look up the proceeding dates of both impeachments lol
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u/OrdinaryNo2959 6h ago
No, he was impeached twice. You’re referring to the removal of office. You should brush up on your civics.
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u/azcurlygurl 6h ago
MAGA was incensed because the DOJ was investigating his crimes two years before the election. But they think this is fine, 22 days before the election, even though it's against DOJ regulations.
And, what they are investigating is immigration paperwork her father filled out over two decades ago. Extremely urgent! Couldn't wait!
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u/Bigcouchpotato1 6h ago
Just because the administration say Omar is doing illegal stuff doesn't make it true.
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u/daizzy999 6h ago
Yea, they've gotten awfully comfortable just going after people in the HOPES they find something. Like, can we go through all the Republican's houses too just to look around amd see if we can find something?
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u/Green_Machine_6719 48m ago
I thought they did that already, Trump @Mar a Lago raid….How quick they forget…Roger Stone…Giuliani….Flynn…..Banon……The lefts time has come and you can eat your shit sandwich now🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Get ready for some more, shows not over
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u/Green_Machine_6719 6h ago
A Biden appointment judge doesn’t sign a search warrant without cause..Must be valid evidence to authorize ☝️
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u/Going2beBANNEDanyway 2h ago
Wouldn’t be the first time they lied to a judge to get a warrant.
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u/Green_Machine_6719 1h ago
Are you referring to the many FISA warrants and the raid of Mar a Lago???
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u/Mattloch42 5h ago
She came to this country on an "Einstein" Visa, then got a job where that kind of Visa was inappropriate meaning she broke the law. Then she found a rich American and married him to become a citizen, then had an "anchor baby" and bring her family in as "chain" migration.
*This post is not about Ilhan Omar.
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u/war_ofthe_roses 6h ago
One is a convicted felon.
The other is not.
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Only racists lose their mind over that fact.
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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 6h ago
They've been attempting to smear her for a decade (since Trump was first in office) if anything actually existed, it would already be exposed. It's just a month before elections and they don't want anyone looking at the gas prices, or their other grifts.
That should be obvious no matter who you vote for or are prejudiced against.
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u/JPA322 6h ago
Jesus Christ, a Biden appointed judge signed an actual warrant for the search. That means there's enough evidence to get a warrant. You all will be ok.
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u/starfire360 5h ago
Now let’s see how many times judges have later thrown out charges Trump prosecutors got warrants for because the Trumpies blatantly lied to the judge… Jeez, just today a judge was yelling at a Trump official for failing to follow very simple orders in another case.
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u/Somhairle77 6h ago
Every high level Federal "official" needs to be impeached and removed from office for racketeering.
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u/Leroyf1969 6h ago
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u/No_Breakfast_523 5h ago
I didn't know due process involved the mass anti-Islam mass hysteria that has taken hold over this country because of a corrupt president. The pedo in office has files being withheld from the Epstein files because he controls the DOJ and FBI. How about we have due process for them? Especially since we know Epstein was involved in massive crimes and they were good friends.
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u/Naerven 5h ago
My understanding is they are looking into allegations that the paperwork her parents turned in 20+ years ago may have had errors. She and Trump are not the same.
That said, yes wrong doing should be investigated when it happens.
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u/Jorgedetroit31 5h ago
Like fake Einstein visa’s?
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u/rjlawrencejr 4h ago
I’m guessing it’s inconsistent paperwork or it could be something as simple as mm/dd/yr vs dd/mm/yr.
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u/Apprehensive-Log3638 6h ago
Impeachment is a political issue, not criminal. When the president losses the confidence of 2/3rds of the legislature, they should be removed.
Criminal case agains Omar is a whole separate issue. All I am going to say is they better have damning evidence of significant wrong doing. Political power in this country goes back and forth. The ones conducting this harassment will be the one getting harassed if this turns out to be nothing.
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u/-Foxer 6h ago
You mean that might fake up a bunch of charges about accounting fraud that isn't actually a crime unless you believe another crime might have possibly existed but it's never actually proven?
You're a little late to the party
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u/giantawakening 5h ago
12 jurors friend. But I guess they were made up as well
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u/-Foxer 5h ago
Twelve jurors who were instructed by a judge whose daughter made millions from the trial
The legal circles have already talked about this to death. It's being referred to as the Tinkerbell law, as long as you believe it exists then I guess it does
The jurors were told he was guilty as long as they believed another crime may have occurred. They didn't even have to agree on Which crime. Nor did that crime have to be proven or did they attempt to
So they found him guilty based on a crime that they didn't even charge him with.
Literally everybody recognizes that this was a political hoax specifically invented to go after trump. That's why they wouldn't let them change the venue or get a different judge.
You're going to try and pass this off as legitimate then I'm afraid my days of taking you seriously are coming to a middle
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u/giantawakening 4h ago
Days of taking me seriously?
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u/Choochoo1147 5h ago
Really bad write-up. I’m an actual lawyer and I can assure you the legal field doesn’t recognize the prosecution to be a “political hoax.”
He definitely committed the crimes he was charged with.
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u/-Foxer 5h ago
It was such a bad right up that you couldn't refute a single point of it! Imagine that 😂
It's 100% true which is why you couldn't actually refute it.
The point is what he did wasn't a crime. Not in the minds of 99% of people out there. And even in the eyes of the law it's not a crime unless another crime happened to take place that it supported, and they never even tried to prove that. They didn't even pick one
There's a reason why his popularity actually went up after the conviction and not down. Everyone realized it was complete political theater and wasn't a real criminal trial. Biden's own guy left the democrats to work on this case with the prosecutor.
Nobody with any kind of objectivity looks at that as being a legitimate conviction. They faked up a charge for a crime it doesn't really exist and certainly doesn't exist anywhere except that District of New York and found him guilty for political purposes.
That's where we get the term lawfare from
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bet_612 2h ago
Right.. His popularity increased among his base for the same reasons as martyrs.
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u/-Foxer 1h ago
Yeah. Basically. He was attacked unfairly for political reasons and they tried to use the law to kill him politically and wipe them out
That's what made him a martyr. If you actually did a real crime and get convicted of it you're not a martyr
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bet_612 38m ago
I think you missed my point. Martyrdom matters to cults - and it is quite remarkable the mental gymnastics people in that position will do to avoid the cognitive dissonance.
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u/ActuaryLost9689 1h ago
Your Country is lost . In 5 years you will be denying ever supporting Trump.
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u/-Foxer 1h ago
Not my country kiddo.
But I love that you couldn't refute the point that I made so you tried to turn it into a failed personal attack 😁😁😁
And I'm no Trump supporter, I think the guy is a complete wing nut and a megalomaniac and probably sociopathic.
But that doesn't change the fact that the charges brought against him were completely bogus and the democrats tried to use welfare and punishment by process in order to wipe out a political opponent.
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u/GamemasterJeff 2h ago
Nothing needs to be refuted. Trump legally was convicted by a court of law, end of story.
If you really do need a refutation, then look up the charges and Trump's lawyer's response. They are entered into the record as given, meaning Trump did not even try to refute then.
Trump and his legal team disagree with your point. I don't need to go any further than that.
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u/Tinfoil_cobbler 20m ago
10000%… same thing happened in the Jean Carroll case. I read the jury instructions and thought omg he could have slapped her ass and been found guilty. That case was a donkey show, complete embarrassment.
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u/Going2beBANNEDanyway 2h ago
Falsifying business records is 100% a crime. His lawyers then got to hand pick the jury and he was still convicted because that’s how guilty he was.
You’re in a cult.
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u/-Foxer 1h ago
It wasn't falsifying business records anywhere else. Anywhere else in the entire country or most other countries that was the standard accounting practice
Further even in that state it's not a Felony..It's a misdemeanor crime. The judges and prosecution shoehorned it into being a felony by saying "If it was done to support another felony then it becomes a felony"
But they never proved another felony. In fact they didn't even agree on what that other felony might be. They presented multiple options of what it could possibly be with zero proof
And they instructed the jury that if they think that one of those things might have been a crime then it's okay to find him guilty for this
In no way shape or form does anyone look at that and think it's legitimate. Everybody instantly knows that that was political bullshit. That's why trump's numbers went up and not down
Biden sent his own lawyer over to work on the case, there's never been one like it, government officials in the area were running around afterwards telling businessman that it was just for trump and they would never be charged with something similar and in every other part of the country it's not even a misdemeanor
It's not even close dude, if you're going to try and present that as a real crime then you have zero credibility in the slightest
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u/Going2beBANNEDanyway 1h ago
Absolutely unhinged. You can’t gaslight away that it is a crime and he was convicted of it by a jury his lawyers picked.
You’re in a cult. One day it’s going to click in your head and you’re going to feel silly.
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u/-Foxer 1h ago
Sorry buddy but those are facts and I get that the facts upset you but that doesn't change the facts
His lawyers didn't pick that jury they asked for a change of venue and were denied
And the jury does what the judge instructs them.
You can continue to lie your ass off as much as you like but everybody knows those were politically motivated charges and not real at all. In any meaningful way. This was just democrats trying to use the system to wipe out a political opponent
So if they happen to do the same thing back to democrats well, the democrats don't have a lot of room to complain
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u/Creative-Violinist44 6h ago
There is either a law broken or not. “Significant wrong doing” This is not a volume dial. lol
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u/Apprehensive-Log3638 6h ago
That is not true. That is why there are felonies and misdemeanors. You do not raid a sitting member of congresses home because they jaywalked.
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u/HustlaOfCultcha 2h ago
While it doesn't appear (yet) that it's about her husband's company...the claim that it was a 'simple accounting error' of actually forgetting to add liabilities to the balance sheet is about as absurd as it gets. It would be like claiming your car is valued original MSRP and then realizing you made the simple mistake of not including the fact that it has no engine in it.
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u/beebeebee2142 5h ago
This unmoderated sub is lame hasbara hive.
Okay, you had a question about Ilhan Omars marriage which many claimed was illegally done with her brother to get him into the country.
Since the raid was reported to be about that I dont think you're going to hear any updates about ongoing legal cases until the slow wheels of the justice system turn. See you in 20 years
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u/Curious-Emu3894 5h ago
They don’t even have real charges to go after. It’s a literal witch hunt just because people don’t agree with Trump and have spoken out against him. This is the most corrupt administration in American history with a Russian plant as “President”.
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u/StatementCareful522 5h ago
There are no illegal activities Congresswoman Omar is doing especially not that would warrant this kind of invasion, this is purely political bullying
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u/Ill-Entrepreneur-267 6h ago
Can you explain what crime trump has been convicted and prosecuted ?
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u/dip_tet 6h ago
Just look up Trump 34 felonies
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u/Western-Willow-9496 6h ago
And then figure out how NY turned a maybe misdemeanor into 34 felonies.
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u/cleanforpeace72 6h ago
Can one post on this app not have include Trump. Geez
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u/war_ofthe_roses 6h ago
"Can one post on this app not have include Trump. Geez"
Said the guy who included "Trump"
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Guessing that you're a drunk republican pollster?
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u/BigChewyPizza 5h ago
How everyone seems to forget that Trump was targeted in the same way. Only NOW, it's a problem? Gtfo
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u/Brilliant-Road-7545 6h ago
No silly, it’s not illegal when King Daddy Donald Trump the Greatest ever ever ever, does it.
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u/Obvious_Ship_7225 6h ago
Interesting that she gets investigated but Melania and Elan aren’t. And Elan has admitted to coming illegally (he had the wrong visa).
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u/ivhokie12 6h ago
Not that the immigration status for those two is nothing but being on a student/visitor visa rather than a work visa in the early stages of residence is an entirely different level of bad than having a fake marriage to your brother to willfully commit immigration fraud.
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u/DammatBeevis666 6h ago
We impeached him twice. The murder turtle and the GOP grifters refused to convict.
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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 6h ago
Yes, every politician who does anything illegal should be investigated, tried, and prosecuted.
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u/just_having_giggles 6h ago
This crime would have been a paperwork issue committed by her dead father, decades ago.
It was extremely urgent to raid her home less than a month before an election.
Excellent points.
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u/gwg576 5h ago
When a previous admin greenlit a raid on a presidents home o er classified docs, that he had the right to possess, while not saying a thing about their president keeping classified materials in his garage next to his corvette. Come on! At least have the decency to call out your own side when they commit crimes.
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u/cole_z33 5h ago
they can't even process just like cancel culture the left of america started it and are now on the receiving end. it's all fucked but the left clearly set the precedent here
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u/This_Key4634 2h ago
This is the problem with these raids; the other side will need to do its own raid to settle the score and in the mean time the courts and judicial process will become politicized and less worthy of trust
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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 5h ago
Yeah, I figured it was Trump weaponizing the DOJ against political opponents.
You know, another one of those things he’s the only one that does but accuses everyone else of doing (at least on the federal level).
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u/Glittering_Ad366 6h ago
The New World Order is amazed America is so gutless. They thought they could only use Trump for 4 years before they had to toss him away. If he is around past Jan 21st, the MAGA farmers are really gonna cry!
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u/Status_Valuable_9075 6h ago
Seems like she could afford to get her teeth fixed
https://giphy.com/gifs/BTzi4Gg98hpfy
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u/ManagedByDogs 5h ago
Trump, as a convicted felon x34, has no business holding any govt’l position.
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u/NoKnow9 5h ago
Is the administration wanting to deport her because her father filled out the immigration paperwork incorrectly when she was 12? That is the impression I have gotten from a couple of things I’ve read. Does a child or grandchild of immigrants need to keep all immigration paperwork in order to prove citizenship?
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u/Choochoo1147 5h ago
If Ilhan Omar is actually committing crimes, then the raid is justified. I’m almost certain she’s not though.
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u/chitownphishead 2h ago
Apparently a judge that saw the evidence thought there was enough to issue a warrant.
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u/Reasonable-Plate2982 5h ago
Well, thats what corrupt leaders do. Trump will cry election interference if he is in legal jeopardy 2 years before his election but initiate proceedings against an opponent a month before hers.
It doesnt matter though, if she is being investigated, then due process requires evidence and proof. Something the Republican government has repeatedly been unable to produce.
Their skill is suppressing proof of their own malfeasance. Everyone should be running on releasing THE EPSTEIN FILES
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u/Z28Daytona 5h ago
But you can go after someone and he is.
Remember that they got Al Capone on tax evasion not the actual crimes he committed. Thats what they’ll do to Omar.
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u/Prometheus_303 4h ago
Well I would consider free will actions taken as an adult would be more "criminal" than a goof on a file that was filled out for her while she was a child...
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u/chitownphishead 2h ago
Didn't her reported net worth go from like 8 figures down to like 6 figures after some questioning? Wonder if it has anything to do with that. Nobody knows, to this point, so it's all speculation. Could be her ties to the MN fraud, too. We shall see.
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u/Visible_Wolverine2 2h ago
Yes, she is a scammer. So is he. Indict them all, whatever party they belong to.
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u/jlux1010 1h ago
She had evidence on them that they need to get or it’s a distraction from the files there’s no c or d here!!!!!
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u/Timely-Group5649 45m ago
They are trying to find a way to revoke her citizenship. They're starting by going after her deceased father.
It's just pure evil. Trump. Miller. Evil.
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u/SometimesEnema 6h ago
"you can't go after someone when you're the most corrupt president ever"
Actually you can, there is no law against that.
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u/Reasonable-Emu6159 6h ago
For what? What has he done to be impeached this time? And remember, it's unlikely Dems will have the numbers in the senate to remove him from office. Let's not waste the next 2 years trying to get revenge. Again.
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u/No_Breakfast_523 5h ago
Bribing the US voter base with $5k checks if they win elections is a big one.
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u/Leather_Reason1609 6h ago
Why can’t you go after someone? Do you know how power works? Do you know how the world works?
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u/RadSocialistScum 6h ago
She’s not being investigated. Her dad is. And he’s been impeached twice already. But if you mean removed too I agree
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u/Ok-Mousse-4595 6h ago
I will never take lectures about laws seriously from people who voted in a felon president
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u/catptain-kdar 6h ago
So after he gets out of office if those are thrown out would you change your stance? Btw there is nothing in the constitution to stop a felon from being elected because the opposition could trump up charges
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u/Helpful-Duty4815 6h ago
Is doing? WAS doing would be most accurate. Seems most of the accusations were from months to years even decades ago.
As to when? Not sure. Its unprescedented for a sitting president. Of those impeached, none have ever been removed from office.
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u/Complex_Move_3649 5h ago
Trump has done nothing wrong
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u/ORdeadhead2 5h ago
6 Jan? Boxes of highly classified document in the pisser?
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u/Jorgedetroit31 5h ago
Stealing from charity, not paying cities back for police usage during visas. Epstein.
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u/Ven-6 2h ago
Like it or not, Trump has been investigated, impeached, probed and spied on and not convicted of any wrong doing. You may not like him or what he does, or understand it, but that doesn’t make it illegal. Despite the constant social media and bot attacks- but the previous raid on Omar’s is pointing towards real legal issues.
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 6h ago
I like this make believe land where the democrats haven’t been investigating Trump constantly since 2015 when he declared he’d run but as soon as his side is investigating democrats y’all cry about it. If you cheered about every single story manufactured about trump under the assumption that they have him this time then you don’t get to cry weaponized law fare now without looking like a hypocrite.
Clearly anyone in politics isn’t above the law but they’ve spent over 10 years trying to put trump in jail and they’ve never made a concrete case against him to be able to do that. It’s pathetic.
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u/just_having_giggles 6h ago
Sure they did. Jack Smith had a case. Jack Smith got shut down because of that.
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u/No_Breakfast_523 6h ago
If Trump is so innocent, why did the DOJ purposely withhold files in the Epstein files in relation to Trump?
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5h ago
Idk. Why did the DOJ under Biden not prosecute anyone other than Maxwell, they had all the evidence yet no charges were brought against anyone else involved.
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u/No_Breakfast_523 5h ago
Are you trying to say they shouldn't have gone after Maxwell? She was just as bad, if not worse than Epstein. Just because she has the ability to lie to Trumps admin to get a better deal, doesn't mean she is innocent. Are you really that stupid?
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5h ago
No that’s not what I said… I said no one else had charges brought against them, why is that.
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u/No_Breakfast_523 5h ago
You tell me, why that is. Why did all of the investigations stop when Trump came into office? Why did the people he placed into positions of power suddenly say that they aren't going to prosecute anyone in the files? You really are fucking stupid.
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5h ago
The investigations are still ongoing, this year bill gates and the Clinton’s were questioned or maybe it was last year?
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u/No_Breakfast_523 5h ago
Wait, wait, wait. So you think the Epstein files a legitimate enough to investigate the Clinton's (not just Bill btw) AND Gates, but somehow Trump should be except from investigation of the files? It's very clear you have a prejudice against anyone with a political ideology different than yours.
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5h ago
I guarantee the investigation was already done on Trump during the 4 years the last DOJ had the files.
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u/MrMayhem3 5h ago
Did you forget why you've been told to hate jack Smith? Or that your boy having 34 felonies or being liable for sexual assault?
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5h ago
Another we got him this time person
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u/MrMayhem3 5h ago
That wasn't able to complete his work because half this country are morons.
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5h ago
Should have focused on the billions of other we got him this time that fell through lmao.
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u/MrMayhem3 4h ago
Im glad you think blatant government corruption is funny. I suppose thats how we're different. Kindly fuck off now.
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u/GreyHesher 6h ago
Impeachment means nothing without conviction and removal.