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u/Immediate-Wing-3111 12d ago
Aggressively give me your money. I will never try to fix anything on this planet.
- Elmo Crust
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u/SpinningHead 11d ago
Yeah, it would be easier to fix Earth than create a livable atmosphere on Mars.
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u/Abject-Job7825 11d ago
its the other way around, I think we're already past the point of no return for global warming without any progress and consumerism has only gotten more radical, the wealth gap only seemed to slow down because a lot of those people like to keep anonymous or do complex tax evasion, everything has gotten so out of hand and the government is losing power to protect its own people, if they even wanted to do that job in the first place
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u/SpinningHead 11d ago
Yes, but we are also nowhere near the point of engineering an Earth atmosphere on Mars. Doing Earth would be easier and thats not really a thing either.
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u/ShortNefariousness2 10d ago
The fist step is to give Mars a magnetic field. How hard would that be?
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u/Abject-Job7825 10d ago
I don't really want us to live on another earth, there's a challenge and achievement in living on other planets, we're not even going to survive 99% of them, so the ones where we could are special, if we started dreaming again like how elon influenced people at the start we might actually forgo differences and money and just make something happen, not an atmosphere at first just a dome of sorts. Our eyes deteriorate in space and there are many biological difficulties so tackling this one problem could advance our understanding of medicine and health. Just like how Nasa technology is behind so many of our modern world: touch screens, gps, solar event monitoring, telescopes, robot and rover technology, advancements in computer chips, solar energy, battery technology, etc etc.
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u/AstronomerDramatic36 12d ago
No matter how badly we fuck up Earth, it'll still be more habitable than Mars.
If an outside force takes out Earth, there's a decent chance Mars is affected as well. For all the work and cost, you're not even diversifying that much.
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u/Mr_Daniel_Lumis 12d ago
2500? We will be lucky if there are a few breeding pairs left by then. They better hurry up and evolve to live in 150 degree heat.
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u/Elegant-Vegetable-88 8d ago
That's not how it works buddy during the Jurassic period greenhouse gases were up to 365% higher than they are today. I wouldn't be worrying about it
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u/Mr_Daniel_Lumis 8d ago
Who is worrying? I don't give a shit if we live or not. It's a matter of time either way. The problem is if we are actually causing the planet to become unlivable for our offspring shouldn't we try and do something about it? Denying science and listening to the experts on Reddit will guarantee we do nothing.
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u/Pyrostemplar 12d ago
mmmh, weren't there only five recorded ELEs/mass extinction on Earth (sixth perhaps ongoing)?
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u/Able-End-339 12d ago
Yeah, the Mars thing has never really made sense. It’s like arguing it would be harder to fix a beat up 97 Camry with a blown head gasket than create an entire new car from a bare block and some sheet metal with at best a rough idea what a car even looks like (there’s probably a Cybertruck joke here somewhere). Somebody could do the second one with unlimited time and probably still end up in a worse place than what a half decent mechanic and machinist could do with the first.
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u/1K-Year-Egg 12d ago
“(there’s probably a Cybertruck joke here somewhere)”
The Cybertruck was clearly designed to operate on Mars, not Earth.
It is, after all, prone to rapid rusting and notoriously sensitive to moisture, and Mars has neither oxygen, nor significant water. Its suspension is, moreover, burning garbage, but it might do better in Mars’s weaker gravity.
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u/IlluminatiLemonParty 12d ago
I am almost convinced, by the shear insanity, evil and stupidity of it all, that there was in fact a corpse in that space suit they sent up in the car.
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u/Environmental-Hour75 12d ago
Elon is a fraud who became the worlds richest man selling dreams he can't deliver on and creating a super genius persona to sell it. Many of us have seen through the curtain, many havent, but when they do Elon's house of cards is going to collapse and take a lot of market value and retirement savings accounts with him.
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u/Unique-Tank9814 10d ago
Almost every single venture Musk has embarked on has been successful though.
Tesla
PayPal
SpaceX
Solar City
Neuralink
StarlinkThe list goes on. These are all pretty successful dreams he has delivered on…
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u/Environmental-Hour75 9d ago
Only tesla is profitable, spacex, xAI, X, all operate at a loss, boring co, neuralink are pre-revenue (don't generate any). Solar city was never profitable and had 1.5 Billion in debt when Tesla bought it. Paypal had never had a profitable quarter when musk was ousted as CEO in 2000. Peter Thiel fixed it, and sold to ebay in 2002, ans only after that did it turn a profit... with a much different operating model than what Musk had championed.
Back to Telsa, its profitable but with a price to earninga ratio of 350, its not turning near the profits it should. For comparison toyota is six times more profitable than tesla and trades at a P/E ratio of 8.
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u/Final-Art-9509 12d ago
I am in favor of him leaving the planet!! Take your followers and the us gov with you!!
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u/fungi_at_parties 12d ago
Seems like we should figure out how to take care of the planet indefinitely and sustainably before leaving so we don’t create a habit of burning out planets across the galaxy. Of course the humans in Avatar pretty much acted like how we would act in that situation so I guess it’s inevitable.
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u/idkuhhhhhhh5 12d ago
While I agree that the environment of Earth is massively important, I don’t really understand why everyone is saying we need to choose one or the other, environmental protection and space aren’t mutually exclusive. Especially given how much advancement in battery, communication, solar panel technology, radiological shielding, microprocessors, medical scanning equipment, and thermal regulation systems have come directly from space exploration programs.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this to defend Elon (he’s a POS), but it’s intellectually dishonest to say that efforts spent on space exploration and settlement preclude environmental conservation. His employees (I don’t work for SpaceX but I am an Aerospace guy, so like me) are aerospace engineers, we have no clue how to restore watersheds, soil quality, and greenery. We do know how to make things on earth and fly them around.
Plus, arguably the best thing we can do for our species is figure out asteroid redirection and mining. We could sustain massive industrial expansion while simultaneously shutting down mines on earth that pollute unimaginable amounts of toxic emissions. Asteroid harvesting is also easier than a mars colony, but would have insanely positive results for us as a planet.
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u/NinjaSellsHonours 12d ago
SpaceX has a massive polluting effect. Humans traveling to Mars is impractical and useless. The only thing they are doing is launching satellites which is arguably not great either, and a lot of them are going to burn up on reentry which has troubling possibilities for the ozone layer.
I would park all space exploration for 100 years until some kind of real breakthroughs show some promise of getting us somewhere. Right now we have basically nothing meaningful to work with beyond what got us to the moon.
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u/Unique-Tank9814 10d ago
SpaceX has actually massively reduced space pollution being generated which was becoming a major problem of single use launch vehicles. A single SpaceX launch is equivalent to the annual emissions of like 300 cars. It’s not really that much.
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u/Ashbael 12d ago
He's causing so much litter in space from all his tests and failures it's actually gonna be really difficult to leave the atmosphere safely.
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u/Direct_Royal_7480 12d ago
The fastest route to Mars involves ignoring rocket launch safety protocols, lol.
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u/stonk_fish 12d ago
Musk is pushing for Mars because even with all the money he has, he will never have any real control on Earth.
If he destroys Earth to get enough resources to drag a colony to Mars he can live out his dream of being a remote despot controlling the lives of the suckers he conned into becoming disposable slave labor.
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u/FiveStringTelecaster 12d ago
By 2030, people will have Iron Man suits.
Does that make me a futurist? A genius?
Or just some random schmuck who spouts off nonsense to sound smart?
The latter?
Yeah, but I have friends unlike fElon
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u/slyrhinoceros 12d ago
Eleanor Musty needs to be the first to go even if there is no colony awaiting on Mars!
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u/xxxdrakoxxx 12d ago
we have yet to go back to moon because its so cost prohibitive and pointless but ya lets sell peopl pipe dreams about colonizing mars. this dude had to buy a US president to internally dismantle investigations on his companies. he will be absolute last person i would trust with anything mars
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u/Justmeandhim-D 12d ago
We have everything here !!!
Elon: yeah, but if you give me money I might…. Maybe…
Possibly take you to mars.
And I can take all the money with me to the afterlife.
Win win. 🏆
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u/CompetitiveCrab5459 12d ago
Lol worst case scenario of climate change is still thousand times more habitable than mars, what are we even talking about here
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u/redbeardrex 12d ago
Fake quote from a fake account, probably controlled and sponsored by the CCP, but don't let that stop you licking those boots
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u/masked_sombrero 12d ago
Nope - the man with a botched penis from a botched penis enlargement surgery literally said that
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u/Komabeard 12d ago
Visionary vs old hag
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u/masked_sombrero 12d ago
botched penis (from a botched penis enlargement surgery)
Vs
No penis
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u/Good_Imagination_577 12d ago
You are way to fixated on this 😅
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u/masked_sombrero 12d ago
Having a botched penis would be very concerning for anybody. My condolences
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u/egoldbarzzz 12d ago
Show me where either of these two individuals actually said what is quoted above.
I’m so tired of troll bots posting fake BS and attributing quotes to people.
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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 12d ago
"Aw shit, I completely wrecked the floor in my house, time to buy a new house so we can be a multihouse species"
Motherfucker doesn't even have the money to get a second house. Even if he owned the entire earth and the moon.
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u/treble-maker123 11d ago
We must aggressively put people who profit at the expense of the public in prison. That's what we must do.
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u/BedHead_2026 11d ago
Funny how when people thought he was liberal, minded he was a champion, now he’s conservative, he’s a leper. The hypocrisy is legendary , even for the lefty sheep
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u/Spacebound_Gator 11d ago
"You"? More like, all of humans. But thats not what reddit is all about, huh?
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u/Sir_Lord_ByronIII 11d ago
They haven't looked at India or South Africa apparently
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u/masked_sombrero 11d ago
Elon Musk’s father owned an emerald mine in South Africa
That’s where his initial wealth came from.
Fraud is where the rest of it came from
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u/Amazing_Level5479 11d ago
He’s destroying this one. And then escape when no one else can. Only the millionaires.
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u/Technical_Credit2801 11d ago
He never intends on actually going to mars, this is just yet another scam of his.
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u/Kotsida123 10d ago
I will live long enough to experience the day his obituary releases. And no, this isn't inciting violence.
Let him go peacefully and of old age. But he will be alone and loathed. And he will know.
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u/Ok-Serve-4726 10d ago
As his new TX battery plant continues to dump toxic waste into a an open drainage ditch.
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u/graywailer 7d ago
Only a United planet will reach the stars. We are no where near United. So no it's not going to happen. It's a cash grab of stolen taxpayer wealth.
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u/ClearTranslator5093 12d ago
What did I miss ? What did Elon do to the planet ? Toxic burning ashtray?
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u/gthing 12d ago
Oh boy... I'm going to get downvoted for saying this because people have a real problem with black and white thinking... but here I go.
Elon Musk is a douche there's no doubt about it. Let nothing I'm about to say make you think I think otherwise. But I do believe Tesla has been the catalyst for electrifying our fleet. The existing auto manufacturers were never going to do it and many of them have been dragged into it kicking and screaming.
IC cars account for ~20% of greenhouse gas emissions (more like 30% if we include industrial transportation). It is estimated that roughly half of new cars sold will be electric sometime next decade.
So yea, he's a complete douche. But I don't see how his primary crime is trashing our planet and turning the earth into a toxic burning ashtray.
If it is true that Elon Musk is even partially responsible for the adoption of electric cars, then I honestly can't think of anyone or anything that has done more to combat climate change. Can you?
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u/Mars_Habitat 12d ago
What do you expect from a NAZI?
They destroy everything in their way to have power, money and control. We have witnessed that already.
Elon is a the most dangerous man in history.
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u/kermitthorson 12d ago
i hate anyone holds his ideas in any regard. my dad basely believes thi gs he spews and knows nothing about what or why he saying and how he obviously knows nothing of what he says
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u/Exact_Advertising812 12d ago
Missed the word ‘white’ amongst those above. Silly mistake to make! Needs to proof read before publishing me thinks!
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u/locomocotive 12d ago
On the one hand I’d like to ignore everything Musk and Trump and the rest of them say for the rest of their lives. That would be great. But we need to know what they’re up to so we can stop them trashing the planet and everyone on it.
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u/idkuhhhhhhh5 12d ago
I understand that these are fields that are not spoken about much outside of academia, but it makes me incredibly sad to see misconceptions like this about one of the few good things humanity has done.
Re-entry of every satellite megaconstellation we have and plan to launch, all at once, would be roughly equivalent to one year of natural meteoric dust accumulation. Since we banned CFCs, the ozone layer has been recovering steadily, despite deorbiting massive amounts of satellites, the Salyut 7, Mir, Tiangong 1 and 2 space stations, and countless upper stages for orbital insertion.
As far as breakthroughs, we already have them. We already have the technologies required for advanced space travel, just looking at the materials and mechanics of how the ISS works compared to “what got us to the moon” demonstrates how far we have come, it’s akin to looking at a 727 and acting like it’s the same as a 787.
Either way, the prospect of asteroid harvest alone would solve our material needs for decades, we could give the earth a rest for resource harvesting for a very long time, and it’s not just a pipedream. The lack of “breakthrough” hasn’t been of capability, it’s of funding, and if we pulled funding from helping Israel murder people, padding the wallet of the president, and fossil fuel subsidies, we could have been beating SpaceX’s pace for a long time.
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u/Brilliant_Pun 12d ago
You know, for a time, tired movie franchises got an "in Space" installment to try to rejuvenate them. As a result, we got "Leprechaun 4: In space" and "Jason X". Does this mean we're going to get a real life equivalent of Leprachaun in the Hood involving an Elmo project?
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u/Massive_Wafer5005 12d ago
True progressives (like Elon Musk) always get shit on during their own lifetime, until a century passes and everyone reaps the rewards of his labor. People are so retarded it hurts, it's one of the hardest things to accept about reality.
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u/Chami90655 12d ago
Wait, is this Looney Toon saying that Elon trashed the planet? Elon has been building cars since 2007 maybe? And only at large scale since 2016. Ford GM Chrysler and any number of other car manufacturers have been building cars since 1900. Democrats and their FAKE outrage.
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u/Opening_Card3777 12d ago
I always have to censor myself from how my inner voice reads Musk’s quotes and remember the reality that he sounds like the most sheepishly unconfident person on the planet
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u/TipAppropriate1384 12d ago
Musk and hUmAnity:
Its only white people
Profits wont go to HuManiTy, only expenses
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u/tweedleduh 12d ago
She’s one of my favorite authors, now I have more of a reason to go buy more of her books
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u/ou-really 12d ago
We must treat our earth with love and respect, even if many people wish to achieve interplanetary travel.
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u/Independent_Body8372 12d ago
Mars isn't colonizable. This is gross obfuscation and him trying to make people forget the horrendous shit is doing. When Elon isn't lying, he isn't speaking.
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u/Lumpy-Interaction725 12d ago
Just look at his core language. Imperial technofascist to boot:
Aggressively Industrialize Colonize Absolute Noble Duty Glorious Survival
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u/txcreative20 12d ago
Elon you go to mars you pay for it out of your pocket . Not the tax payers money . We live on Earth let’s be concerned about our planets. Yes Global Warming is real .
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u/WileEWeeble 12d ago
If you can’t rehabilitate the planet that we were “designed” to survive on, you don’t have the technology to engineer non-Terraian living spaces.
You are just grifting to make others pay to put your name on history.
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u/AdvancedAerie4111 11d ago
Sci fi authors are artists using creative license to make things seem interesting. They aren’t sages or time travelers. Stop acting like creatives are the people who move civilization forward or that they have any special insight into its workings.
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u/Fresh-Marionberry121 11d ago
How the fuck did Elon Musk single handedly destroy the earth ? Gimme a break. I’d bet my life she uses plastic and has a car and flies and uses other shit that detrimental to our rock.
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u/masked_sombrero 11d ago
dang - why is this getting bots so upset? 🤔
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u/SimpleMoonFarmer 11d ago
If you want to make enemies, try to change something.
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u/Merkenfighter 11d ago
You think he’s just a change agent? If that’s what you think, you’re dumber than I thought.
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u/Fabulous_Accident_85 11d ago
Shifting resources to other worlds and bodies in the solar system would drop the burden on our own planet.
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u/Tiny-Secretary5562 11d ago
The earth is a toxic, burning ashtray? Where does she live? I'll bet it's pretty nice.
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u/Alex_J_Anderson 11d ago
Elon didn’t trash the planet. We all contribute.
YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN ELON. You’re just poor.
We do need to get off this planet. Can we at least agree? The planet / the sun WILL end. We don’t know when humans will end. We could be done this time next year for all we know.
Elon is way more important than whoever that old bird is. Sorry. Doesn’t make him a saint but we need him.
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u/PetuniaPickleswurth 11d ago
Is she supposed to be smart or something. Lol.
If that’s a quote, my God what a dumb thing to attribute to that man.
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u/MikeJ257 10d ago
I guarantee this woman owns a car , sues a cell phone , air conditioning and travels by plane …living no differently than him
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u/baba_bysaga 10d ago
This is how you can be sure that Elon isn't a real scientist or engineer. He's just talking out of his ass. Laymen who are interested in science know more about these things than he does, and they know how ridiculous his ideas are.
He's saying this for the illiterate among us, so they can pretend to be "into science" while voting against it.
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u/Fragrant_Role_1807 10d ago
You sure showed him random Redditor who claims to be the authority on who is a scientist/engineer and who isnt. Please let us know how you became so wide on the matter.
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u/Fragrant_Role_1807 10d ago
Kind of a hot take to claim Elon trashed the earth when he’s been the head of the most successful ev company for what 10 years, not to mention reusable rockets.
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u/Nothingtodo1112 10d ago
When people talk about terraforming mars for a sustainable living environment I just think why not fix the problem here
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u/Sharp_Net3315 10d ago
Climate alarmist are so full of sh¹t.
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u/Minute-Object 10d ago
You believe we are not altering CO2 levels?
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u/mikeeyyyg 10d ago
.04% of the atmosphere is CO2 so I’d say no. Also we could go green and all that but will other countries follow along? Probably not
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u/Minute-Object 10d ago
The claim is that humans sre not changing the climate. right? That is what we are focused on.
So, are you saying that CO2 levels are too low to affect the climate? Are you saying humans are not affecting CO2 levels? Which one do you mean?
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u/Sharp_Net3315 10d ago
Co2 levels have altered since the dawn of time. How many time do the climate cultists, and globalists have to be wrong before you notice?
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u/Minute-Object 10d ago
In fact, CO2 levels and global temperatures have changed together. Do you acknowledge that changes in CO2 levels do affect global temperatures?,
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u/Pateklover72 10d ago
Ursula is a moron and contributed nothing except shitty books no one reads. Elon is great. Cry Harder Losers!
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u/Desperate_Donut3981 10d ago
I wish he'd just go there already. Wasn't the trip supposed to be soon anyway
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u/MaitieuFen 9d ago
PLEASE let him run away to mars and take Donny diapers and his supporters with him
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u/distrubinglyfamiliar 9d ago
So she writes fantasy books and Elon turn Science Fiction into reality, is that her point?
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u/Craftofthewild 9d ago
Democrats just use inevitable climate change to raise taxes and support their green investments. It’s going to get wicked hot no matter what, and then it will get cold again. We made it through the last ice age with stone tools. We have the technology to make it through this (air conditioning lol)
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u/masked_sombrero 9d ago
lol wat
AC aint helping no one when entire energy systems aren't working
And it doesn't matter anyway once we're starving to death
but, ya...just use AC on all crops worldwide durrrr it's a left problem not a global problem durrr gimme more diesel to run my AC on my crops durrrrr 🥴
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u/zeusismycopilot 9d ago
Are you planning on eating your air conditioner?
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u/Craftofthewild 1d ago
No lol but there’s a surplus of food now and global warming would theoretically thaw out a lot of northern farmland. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think it will be easy, that’s why I bought like 1000 rounds of 5.56 ammo and a new 12 gauge
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u/Equivalent-Green-580 9d ago
To be fair the world was turned into an “ashtray” decades before Elon was born.
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u/711woobie 8d ago
Let the billionaires finance it with their billions. Don’t have the government borrow more money to pay for it.
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u/Long_Passenger498 8d ago
Meanwhile, you comment on what the innovators are doing while you contribute nothing.
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u/Veritas1944 7d ago
Yes. Elon musk is completely responsible for earth being trashed. Jesus Christ go touch some grass.
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u/Apprehensive-Art5972 6d ago
Oh so now the guy who built all the electric cars that the left was clamoring for single-handedly destroyed the planet with his rockets in 10-15 years. Gotcha.
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u/Phrreegoon 6d ago
Hey, don’t dissuade him from going. The day Elon leaves for Mars is the day Earth starts getting better.
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u/Mission_Gap_9035 12d ago
Elon doesn’t do much more than sell dreams because it attracts capital. His own daughter pointed this out.
He’s essentially just a salesperson for fraudulent ventures that rarely become reality, if ever.
The only reason it really works is because investors swarm his companies and see their share prices rocket and make money on paper.
How long does Tesla really have left after the CyberFlop.