The alternative is something like the dotcom bubble, where a lot of fiber was layed, and while ultimately a lot of investment money was thrown in the incinerator the physical stuff became cheaply available. Or, if we're lucky, it's more like tulips, something that no one really needs and when the mania wears off most people can go back to ignoring.
I hope it ends up like tulips. LLMs can do some cool things but it isn't saving companies money and this isn't even the true cost of tokens and then we have it shoved down our throats in everything.
it wont, tulips had no value. im a dev with 10y experience and there are maybe 3-5 people on earth that could compete with top llm's when it comes to coding. it doesnt make me happy, i hate slop just as any other person but it doesnt make sense to tell yourself that its just a useless toy. its a generational leap that you could MAYBE compare to first computers that suddenly increased calculations you can make a second by 10000
This is 100% bullshit. I have never met a programmer who thinks that AI code is worth anything of value when it comes to actual code generation. They spend more time correcting basic code than they ever spent writing it, and if there's any level of complexity generated code is functionally useless. As in "can't remember what the variable name passed into a function was called so it just makes something up and ends up overwriting a critical global variable" levels us useless. As a middling programmer at best myself, I agree that it writes code I would have been embarrassed to put down when I was a beginner.
However, what it does really excel in is asking human-readable questions to reference documentation or show example code. Punching "Hey, I can't remember the process to establish a multi-dimensional data structure with a variable range" into your LLM of choice is an order of magnitude faster than trying to hunt down the documentation that deals with it, then trying to hunt down the errata that actually explains how to make it function.
The problem with AI as we know it isn't that it's useless. It's that we're trying to force it to do things that it really isn't designed to do and will never be capable of doing well.
Anyway, two month old account with a generic name and hidden history spouting the objectively incorrect benefits of AI is probably a bot.
yes im a bot, you caught me, you should call the reddit police, whats the point of even writing this, the bot will not read it or care
yes, you are right, i was actually spouting the objectively incorrect benefits of AI. do you want me to present you with counterarguments to that view?
Not sure how you could be a programmer and outright make above statement. Our teams started really slow with a lot of caution and guardrails adopting AI tooling. Its just few months in and now entire features are rolling in with a good portion of it llm generated.
Again with a big product, there would be quite a few senior staff who would push back, but all of the critcisms have been addressed and harnesses in place.
I havent checked your history, but you either are larping as a dev here or a paid china account that wants to muddy the pond for the other side.
I very clearly said I was, at best, a middling programmer. I do appreciate you not checking my history. Taking a peak at the last few days to get the gist of who I am is one thing (be ready to see a lot of r/cfb comments), but man I've had dudes go back years trying to find dirt on me. It's there if you look, I'm not denying that, it's just a super weird thing to do.
Anyway, quantify your statements. I can "AI is great it lets me be more organized and helps me brainstorm and stuff" all day long, but it's not really an argument until we get into "I had X problem and LLM solved it via Y process/method/action and saved me Z time".
I'm all for qualitative opinions as a part of a discussion, but when people start calling me out directly I do feel the need to defend myself appropriately. And "prove it" tends to work more often than not.
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u/gravity_kills 19d ago
The alternative is something like the dotcom bubble, where a lot of fiber was layed, and while ultimately a lot of investment money was thrown in the incinerator the physical stuff became cheaply available. Or, if we're lucky, it's more like tulips, something that no one really needs and when the mania wears off most people can go back to ignoring.