r/Snorkblot • • Sep 19 '25

History Glad I didn't live back then.

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u/NormalBrowsing44 Sep 19 '25

There are…. Striking similarities to early nazi attitudes yes… but labelling them and anyone who supports them nazis is wrong

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u/TacoOfTroyCenter Sep 19 '25

Is it? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duckin nazi.

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u/NormalBrowsing44 Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

The only reason I hesitate is because it’s a lot more nuanced than labels. Many different people exist in the party with different degrees of extremism and hatred.

To group them all under the same label would probably cause the less extreme individuals to become more extreme (‘caveman effect’) where to them, it feels like a personal attack so they support the people that don’t attack them (republicans).

I’m not trying to excuse or pander to them, I’m trying to be logical and not worsen the wound. Though at this point everyone’s so filled with hatred and the whole stupid ‘left vs right’ situation is getting out of hand. If people realised it was more complex and didn’t force each other into boxes we’d have a more varied dialogue.

Edit; okay, I think I stand corrected. My arguments hold firm in an ideal situation where everyone can self correct, but I guess that’s not the world me live in and there will be polarisation no matter what, so the best I can do is support the side that doesn’t want to kill trans people

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u/AquiliferX Sep 19 '25

Stop being a pseudo-intellectual.

When one side has openly espoused white-nationalism and has used the instruments of the state which they have illegally seized to enact violence on the innocent then it is just to call them NAZIS

The Republican party has more in common with the most reviled monsters of our living history and it is on us to call it as it is.

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u/NormalBrowsing44 Sep 19 '25

I’m not being pseudo intellectual I’m stating an opinion and I’d rather have a proper discussion rather than being insulted, thanks.

A caveat in your reasoning is grouping them under one label. Who exactly? How many of them? There are 340 million people in America and grouping everyone into two parties is such a bad way of reasoning, it’s very blind to nuance here.

My reasoning is that the more you treat everyone that has loose similarities or even baseline similarities to one side of the political spectrum the more you push them in that box. It’s true, and once again a real phenomenon called the caveman effect.

Tell me your reasoning in a calm and rational way please, or don’t reply at all.

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u/DaTotallyEclipse Sep 19 '25

Tell me your reasoning in a calm and rational way please, or don’t reply at all.

Is repeated until we're so annoyed to be ignored that we're being called emotional.

It's so dumb

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Always fun seeing those types say "calm down" while repeatedly ignoring or more commonly wildly misstating the calm responses.

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u/Bwilderedwanderer Sep 19 '25

"who exactly"? If you support Hitler, your either a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer. If you support orange man, your either a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

How were you insulted?

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u/Indescribable_Theory Sep 19 '25

If you're a Nazi sympathizer, you're fucking scum too. Stop acting intelligent because this take is ✨️dumb af✨️, and this isn't a topic based in intelligence but securing the safety and comfort for every citizen to exist as they wish without harming others.

Nazis want to erase others, just like the Republican party seems to be reveling in its ability to silence and harass anyone they want.

Your "rhetoric" allows that hatred to have a floor.

Sincerely, a local PhD that hates seeing you PSEUDO INTELLECTUALS try to gain whatever upper hand you can.

And if you are able to think rationally you understand that this isn't an attack, because ✨️its on the internet✨️ and won't effect your daily life, and maybe make you think why one side is smug and casual about hate and the other side is clawing back the people that quickly stripped their freedoms.

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u/NormalBrowsing44 Sep 19 '25

How is it pseudo intellectual to say bob from down the street who voted rebuplican isn’t a Nazi? Yes he’s complicit in a bad regime but calling him a Nazi won’t make him not vote republican, infact it’ll make him more likely vote republican.

Massive paragraphs and yet you’ve missed my point. Your phd doesn’t make you intelligent, it makes you dilligent and hardworking, but you’re still open to making mistakes in your interpretation and reasoning which you’ve demonstrated with your emotional reaction. Don’t get me wrong I actually agree with most of what you’ve said generally but you’ve definetly misunderstood aspects.

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u/Indescribable_Theory Sep 19 '25

Wait, I thought your response was "yawn".

You can't be sympathetic to Nazis, because in turn it makes you a Nazi.

If you protect people who harm others and wants to erase them... You're a Nazi.

If Bob down the street votes Republican and doesn't want the erasure of people, why is he voting Republican, when Republicans currently act and engage with society in direct parallel to Nazis.

If Bob is smart, he knows he is no longer Republican due to the party being against his ideals.

This argument isn't about Bob, but Nazi Sympathizers.

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u/NormalBrowsing44 Sep 19 '25

You’re right, I almost didn’t reply but I felt I had to get my point across as little as it matters because I do care about hearing others viewpoints as toxic as Reddit can be.

Yawn was my gut reaction because I didn’t appreciate being called pseudo intellectual. While I don’t consider myself intellectual i felt it wasn’t accurate. You said if I was rational I wouldn’t take it personally but I think you’re mistaking rational with being robotic. I’m human. Of course people want to defend their views because their views are part of who they are, and part of who I am is learning more.

This discussion is about bob, not Nazi sympathisers. I maybe didn’t make this clear enough but what I’m talking about is the fact people are misinformed, misaligned and ignorant. Those people aren’t Nazis, even if they support the regime ‘accidentally’. For me Nazi is evil, fascism that rots peoples hearts and is displayed in unempathetic selfish people.

I don’t like labelling the mininformed and lazy with the evil because it makes the misinformed to side with the evil, often. I’m not excusing the misinformed I’m just pushing for a better medium of education. Just my opinion, and I’d like to hear yours WITHOUT being insulted.

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u/DevelopmentJumpy5218 Sep 19 '25

Because Bob down the street is a nazi if he votes for Nazis.