r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/myself_APHELION • 3h ago
Meme needing explanation Petaah? Help plz ...
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u/HasPotatoAim 3h ago
Christians worship an invisible sky daddy, natives worshiped a visible ball of burning gas that brings life.
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u/BluePotatoSlayer 3h ago
Hey! Sun is not burning nor is it (just) gas. It almost completely plasma and is fusing hydrogen
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u/Objective-Internal52 3h ago
Also it's actively trying to kill you.
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u/DarkKittyEmpress 3h ago
The sun giveth, and the sun taketh away.
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u/ClarenceLe 2h ago
Such is life.
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u/RandomStuffGenerator 1h ago
Nothing new under the sun
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u/DifficultArt7712 1h ago
There’s this concept in Hinduism - god the creator, the preserver and the destroyer
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u/MINATO8622 3h ago
So is god
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u/NegronelyFans 2h ago
And god’s is out of spite if the bible fairy tales are to be believed
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u/Fullchester_United 2h ago
Sometimes just for shits and giggles.
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u/aebaby7071 2h ago
Metatron: "God? Lonely. But funny. He's got a great sense of humor. Take sex for example. There's nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus."
Bethany: "Sex is a joke in heaven?"
Metatron: "The way I understand it, it's mostly a joke down here, too."
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u/AcePowderKeg 2h ago
The sun however doesn't discriminate. It's just doing it's thing. The same light that warms the Earth, burns it as well
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u/rtatro20 2h ago
Trying implies that the sun is sentient, so that only supports the sun god hypothesis some more
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u/Left-League-8646 2h ago
I would call it "passively" trying to kill us. We are just in the way of things
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u/Objective-Internal52 2h ago
Your right it doesn't have the ability to care.
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u/InfelicitousRedditor 1h ago
This sounds like a god to me
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u/skr_replicator 2h ago edited 2h ago
That would imply intent. The Sun is not alive nor trying to do anything. That would be like saying your fireplace is trying to kill you.
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u/Ok_Sentence_7393 1h ago
It will not kill you if you obey 10 commandments.
Do not look directly at Sun.
Hydrate regularly.
Use Sun creams.
Don't paint your roof in black.
When crossing a desert, carry enough water.
Water your crops.
Sacrifice your enemies to Sun.
Have a rest in a shade.
Hide magnifying glasses.
Do not go to Mars.
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u/LunaticRonin 2h ago
Well, Christian God tries to kill you from time to time (big flood, earthquakes, plauges, spanish flu etc)
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u/SdVeau 3h ago
Use his preferred name, Sol, before he gets mad and red giants us out of existence!
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u/DarkSoldier84 40m ago
He also goes by Helios or Atum, depending on which side of the Mediterranean you're on.
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u/Grendeltech 2h ago
I once heard that the sun was a mass of incandescent gas. A gigantic nuclear furnace.
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u/iamthefirebird 2h ago
I once heard the the sun was a miasma of incandescent plasma, the sun's not simply made out of gas, no, no, no
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u/mw2lmaa 2h ago
TBH we Europeans also worshipped the sun before these Romans brought us their monotheism.
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u/LamermanSE 1h ago
Tbf, we worshipped a lot more than the sun, pantheons in pre-christian europe were full of gods that were worshipped (and feared) for all kinds of things.
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u/Melicor 1h ago
The Christian erasure of Europe's native religions and cultures was a genocide.
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u/fadinglamplighter 2h ago
I worship the sun, but I pray to Joe Pesci
- George Carlin (paraphrased)
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u/Haunter52300 1h ago
No? This is a pagan practise, even if a lot of layman worshippers need this simplification to understand the faith. Sophisticated Christian theology expressly denies this notion. The Romans accused Christians of being atheists for denying this type of God, and for more modern theology it is pretty established God is supposedly incorporeal, timeless and omnipotent
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u/Belz_Zebuth 1h ago
The point is that he's indetectable, unlike the sun.
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u/Royal_Radish_3069 40m ago
He is undetectable so that church controls what God does. Meanwhile they can't control the Sun.
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u/ObsceneOnes 1h ago edited 34m ago
Most didnt. They also worship daddies. So dumb. I mean what do you think God is modeled off of??? That is right...the sky daddy...aka the sun.
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u/Inferno_Zyrack 58m ago
Yeah but maybe invisible sky daddy is just a co-opted pagan idea for the sun and also it wants you to kill those brown guys over there.
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u/Jaded_Spread1729 3h ago
Its Christian missionary. He forced tribe to confess to Christianity instead of worshipping sun. They politely state, that they have never seen God, and he is not real, but they see sun daily.
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u/Reasonable-Force8790 2h ago
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u/allquietonzanzibar 1h ago
It's a place where bots are farming karma, what did you expect?
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u/DinisMagnifico 41m ago
somehow this explanation soothes me, as I couldnt believe that someone would be be so fucking dense as to ask this image jesus fucking christ. somehow it being a bot is more forgivable, but im muting the sub nevertheless
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u/dasbtaewntawneta 34m ago
to borrow some vernacular from magic the gathering: reading the meme explains the meme
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u/MarMacPL 3h ago
The Sun is real and we know it.
The God is 'real' because of faith but we can't be sure of that.
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u/Lighthades 2h ago
So if you have enough faith in ghosts they will be real?
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u/MarMacPL 2h ago
Then you will believe they are real. That is the definition of faith - something that we believe is real but we can not proof it and do not need to proof it.
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u/skr_replicator 2h ago edited 2h ago
You should need to prove something that you're allowing to take over life to that much extent.
It is far more reasonable to worship the Sun that actually is there and giving us life and we know it, even though it doesn't need or want worship. Then just worship something completely made up that nobody has ever seen, and stories about do not follow any laws of physics to the point of being unbelievable to any rational person.
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u/Wait_ItGetsWorse 2h ago
'faith' is the excuse someone gives when they don't have a good reason to believe. Why would you believe in something you do not have sufficient evidence for. You are definitialy irrational.
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u/AminiumB 1h ago
Some people confuse the lack of empirical evidence of a metaphysical claim as irrationality, that is simply just a categorical misunderstanding of the fact these are two seperate fields of knowledge.
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u/Baldazar666 1h ago
Because it is irrationality. We are talking about believing things that go against the laws of physics.
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u/AminiumB 1h ago
The laws of physics are a property of the universe, why would the necessary being that justifies the existence of our reality be bound by the laws or have the same properties of his contingent creation?
I don't think you understand what constitutes irrationality in this subject.
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u/Baldazar666 1h ago
You seem to be under the impression that you are providing some sort of logical argument. You aren't. You are working under the assumption that something that doesn't obey the laws of physics already exists and you try to explain why it wouldn't obey those laws, while providing zero proof to support your theory. There is this thing called the scientific process. This isn't it.
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u/AminiumB 59m ago
It seems you don't understand the difference between empirical evidence and logical reasoning in general, though they overlap at times which I assume where your misunderstanding comes from.
The idea is entirely logical in the metaphysical sense and doesn't make an empirical claim.
This is in particular a distinction between contingent or dependent reality and a necessary reality, God in this sense is the necessary reality that justifies the existence of our contingent reality and thus he can't have the properties of contingency that the universe has.
You should actually learn about these concepts instead of confusing the category of knowledge that's being discussed here.
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u/NegronelyFans 2h ago
I have faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Ergo by your logic, it’s real
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u/Blaze_Darkfang 3h ago
The joke is Colonialism and Catholicism. White man believes white man did good by introducing god to primitive people. God not real sun real sun tangible object Catholicism god not that
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u/Ayuditya 2h ago edited 2h ago
You joke, but missionaries had a huge positive impact in my tribe back in the day. Before Catholicism, it was headhunting other tribe's people to plant skulls on cornerstone just to build houses and bridges, animal sacrifices to decode a hunt, and lots of human skull worshipping. Somehow our tribe missed the memo of "kill people, bad".
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u/egoodethc 2h ago
Which tribe?
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u/Ayuditya 2h ago
Bidayuh tribe in Sarawak. Ever heard of the term "Borneo Headhunters"? That usually refers to us Bidayuh and Iban tribes.
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u/egoodethc 2h ago
The people are Hindus and worship the sun, the guy in black coat is a Christian missionary telling them they are stupid for doing so. The Hindus are saying yes but the sun is real and the reason for life on earth.
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u/LiteratureNearby 1h ago
The funny thing is that the sun god is just one out of the hundreds if not thousands of Hindu gods lmfao
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u/Bloody_Knife_ 1h ago
Yup but every god represents some fundamental things or aspects of reality.
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u/BumbaBee85 41m ago
And, as far as I'm aware of, each one relates to something that is tangible and exists, not just "trust us bro, it's really there if you believe hard enough".
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u/TrebbleTough 2h ago
You dont need to have this explained
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u/pockels42 3h ago
And Christian art depicts holiness by putting a sun around heads. Go figure.
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u/Err0c0d3 2h ago
That's not a sun that's a halo
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u/LowIqKunt 1h ago
That iconography originates with sol invictvs, the unconquerable sun. 'halo' also just straight up refers to the apperent disk around the sun.
Also, this is not the only pagan connection Christianity has. The trinity itself comes from church authorities trying to fit Neo platonic metaphysics into christianity. They uplift Jesus to status of godhood, which contradicts Yahweh's assertion that there is only one god so they invent this logically impossible metaphysics to fix it.
The father is straight up just zeus in his depictions lol.
Christmas is the winter soltice. Santa (st Nicholas) is Odin.
Basically, christianity is an eclectic religion between European paganism and Messianic Judaism.
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u/XxRuStEd 30m ago
You really need to back up your claims rather than thinking you've got some sort of defeating argument. Let's go over it one by one, shall we.
The earliest Christian iconography was meant to depict Christ as the divine Logos, and the halo was and still is meant to depict the uncreated light/grace of God. I don't know where and how you've managed to connect that to the roman sun god simply because the "halo represents the halo of the sun."
Neoplatonism didn't influence Trinity theology until St Augustine. The Trinity was already fixed doctrine by then after the Council of Nicaea. In fact, it was Arius who used Neoplatonic ideas about the absolute oneness and transcendence of the Divine into his sub-ordinationist view of Christ.
Depicting the father is heresy. You're basing that claim on modern artwork that depicts him as an old man.
You do realise St Nicholas was real, right? He was present at the Council of Nicaea and was the Bishop of Myra at the time. Only secular traditions made Santa Claus into who he is today, so how the hell did you identify him as Odin??? And Christmas day isn't winter solstice, if you're using the Georgian or the revised Julian calander it's a few days after it and if you're using the Julian calendar it's nearly an entire month after.
I need to point out that the liturgy of the Church and tradition work in synergy together. We have all examples of such in the Orthodox church, from Greek culture, all the way to Alaskan culture. Liturgical traditions anchor worship in ancient roots, creating a living tradition that continually makes the past acts of Christ present, active and unchanging in the lives of the faithful.
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u/CouldNotAffordOne 2h ago
Hmmm. I just found out: I'm a fellow sun worshipper.
My solar panels lower my energy bill pretty well.
All hail to the sun!
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u/Alt123Acct 3h ago
The sun actually is the origin of all life chemistry on earth so the meme is pointing out that the natives are right and the missionary is the one praying to a made up thing
No light no heat no heat no energy no energy no life
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u/Mochizuk 3h ago
You know... Christians have had a vendetta against giving the sun its dues for a long time, now that I think about it.
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u/Unique-Charity7024 1h ago
The maker of this meme lacks any deeper understanding. The picture is a mashup. The priest is taken from the painting "Père Marquette and the Indians". Marquette was preaching in North America, in particular to the Odawa tribes. They did not worship the sun, but the manitouk spirits, the most important of which were the four winds, the underwater serpents, and the thunderbirds. The natives in this mashup are clearly identifiably as Hindu, in particular Dothi ascetics. In Hinduism, the sun is indeed venerated as Surya, as a principle of spiritual enlightenment. In this way they are still worshipping the sun, which makes the whole dialogue pointless.
Congratulations, this abomination manages to be insulting to four different groups at once.
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u/kevintheradioguy 1h ago
I mean. Sun is real. God isn't. He's proud of making them civilised by worshipping something that doesn't exist.
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u/New_Target7441 1h ago
13 days old, nearly 13k karma. Jesus fucking Christ, unplug yourself, clanker.
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u/EffectiveTop842 54m ago
But I didn’t know about god, will I still go to hell? No!, you don’t know so you’ll be spared. Then why did you tell me?!
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u/ZiggyOnMars 2h ago
The Romans seem to have blended some solar symbolism with Christianity and the image of Jesus Christ.
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u/AdityaTheGoatOfPCM 1h ago
a group of Indians who according to the missionary used to worship the sun counter his statement by saying that the sun is real
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u/Poodletaste 57m ago
"Muh religion good , to religion baad" religious nuts are the cause for all the death and suffering in this world. Anyone in denial just needs to open the morning newspaper and flip through it.
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u/McKoijion 51m ago
I don't care if the Kama Sutra is several centuries older than the New Testament. You're only allowed to have sex in one position.
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u/Pegasoo0 43m ago
I think that rather than praying to the sun, they would still be making human sacrifices to it. Christianity back then wasn't exactly the most peaceful thing in the world, but in certain aspects it definitely has a message more centered on peace and forgiveness.
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u/sadphonics 36m ago
They need to make a new rule on this sub where the title at least needs to reference the image somehow to cut down on these bot posts
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u/Mountain-Rub4306 35m ago
Indian's (the country) worships the sun and have a sun god because it provides life (crops, light, energy).
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u/GenuinelyBeingNice 32m ago
Well, yes, the sun does exist, but it is not a god?
(which is at least 50% better than a god that doesn't exist)
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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 21m ago
The joke is that the natives, like many pre-abrahamic cultures, worshipped nature, which actually has a real impact on the world, while christians through the bible put more emphasis on the worship of an invisible deity
There was a sentiment from hardcore vhristians that the natives were uncivilized before they were conquered, masking their colonialism as a benevolent act that modern natives should be thankful of, when in reality it was probably the worst thing that could've happened to the natives as their entire culture and wellbeing was erased almost completely
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u/EconArc_2 20m ago
In the certain spots in Kings & Samuel I recall the author having a particular hatred for sun worshipers. Enough that it's given some credence to the idea that someone familiar with the Aten or Akenaten was trying to restart that sun religion in the area around Israel. I don't think it holds too much weight though as there were plenty of local pagan religions in the area that worshiped the sun.
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