r/Millennials • • 9h ago

Discussion Are you tired yet?

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u/Beneficial_Layer2583 9h ago

I’m not tired of working, but I am tired of being poor despite the fact that I’m working.

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u/72chevnj 8h ago

Same, I grew up believing i could support a family selling shoes

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u/ChickenNPisza 7h ago

What sucks is every time I seem to get over a salary plateu some crazy world changing event happens and the price of goods goes up to where I feel like I haven’t gained a thing.

Chased $100k salary my whole young adult life. I am finally achieving it and that number. Which is great don’t get me wrong, but it’s not the finish line I saw at 16

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u/ColdCruise 6h ago

Same. I came close this year to hit 100k, and I'm moving to second shift for next year to get there, but damn, it still feels like I can't afford anything my dad could when he was my age.

He had a four bedroom home with a pool, two cars, and supported a wife and two kids on a entry level factory job with no college education. Granted, the house was in a pretty rural part of Ohio, but I'm still in a one bedroom apartment.

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u/ChickenNPisza 5h ago

My grandfather was a forklift mechanic at the GM factory in Youngstown from 17-65. Retired with a great pension. Had a lot of health troubles towards the end and he never had issues with money. Two kids and a wife, beautiful suburban two story home with a pool.

“Record profits” can kiss my ass. I think everyone would be okay with paying more to go out to eat when you have an actual patio and bbq grill at the house as an alternative .

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u/thisyellowdaffodil 4h ago

There's a beautiful century house on almost 60 acres the next street over from ours. I decided to look into the history, as the house as intrigued me since we moved to the area. Came upon an obituary of the gentleman who bought the house and land the '50s. He was a factory line worker, supported a wife and four children.

The property is currently valued at $1.8 - 2 million. What factory line worker salary today is going to buy that and support a wife and four kids?

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u/dweenimus 28m ago

Dude, the house i bought in just 2019. After 6 years I wouldn't be able to buy it now, even on a much better wage than I was then! It's ridiculous

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u/Clean_Bake_2180 3m ago

In the 1950s, the world was still decimated from WWII and the US cornered every industry. Japan was a decade away from getting back on its feet. China was over 4 decades away from joining the WTO. Now, Americans are competing against the world but aren’t good at anything except maybe tech and pharmaceuticals, two very gated industries.

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u/Friendly-Entry187 1h ago

It’s not what you make, but rather how much you save/invest. I agree that things were certainly much more affordable in the past, but make a budget that includes investing and you’ll be shocked at how much money you can get!

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u/awarmguinness 1h ago

What's your line of work, any openings?

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u/ColdCruise 1h ago

Quality Assurance for a biotech company. Lots of openings in the Columbus area.

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u/awarmguinness 1h ago

Thanks! Any remote?

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u/Proud-Ad9953 3h ago

Buying home now just to put stuff into and pay more is retarded. Yes, thats right, I do consider that retarded

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u/ColdCruise 3h ago

The big difference is that homes do have value. Renting you lose every penny.

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u/0069 7h ago

Samesees. I know I'm not poor, but I'm so much closer to it than it felt like I would be when I got to that number.

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u/Deep_Distribution_31 7h ago

Hey doing better than many of us, I've been excoted for my new job making 32k a year, my old one was only 27k a year

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u/ChickenNPisza 6h ago

This is what I was trying to avoid with my comment. I almost didn’t post it because I don’t want to gloat.

I am incredibly grateful to make the money I do, and it pains me to see others struggle more that work just as hard as I do. Millienials are now the glue at a lot of small businesses…It’s just wild how far the goalpost has moved for all of us.

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u/zxcv4-2 5h ago

Today it’s 32. Then next up is 50. You got this. Remember. At least 1 random Redditor believes in you.

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u/citizen-slain 4h ago

Make it 2.

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u/itsmiddylou 4h ago

I know that feel I stayed somewhere for 18 years and I left making $36k to go to a job making $38k 😅

Now I make $56k, but I work M-F and 7a-3p, which I will fight tooth and nail to keep that schedule. I don’t even have kids. I just like being able to do shit and get home before it gets super late

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u/Ursa_Mino 3h ago

My exes Boomer parents tried to relate - about how they didn’t feel they had breathing room until breaking $30k a year in their second or third year working after graduation - in 1973

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u/Then-Departure4896 2h ago

I’d never made $30k in a year before, and this year I’ll make around $75k, and I only got my promotion in July. Shit can change quick. I went to a community college.

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u/squirleydan 6h ago

Bro are you me? Because I feel you. I was ready to buy a house going into 2020. The world changed that.

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u/A_RAND0M_J3W 6h ago

Same here. Finally got a decent payrate, had some savings, and then Covid and super inflation happened, and now my dream salary is pennies again and I'm back to square one.

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u/squirleydan 6h ago

I changed jobs 3 times in the last 6 years. I still can't afford a house. 500k starter homes or worse.

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u/SCOTTGIANT 6h ago

Yeah, what sucks is doing the math on a six figure income and realizing that take home is so low that after the cost of living you'll never be able to save enough to retire. Oh and that cheap house that you bought for $110,000 in 2017 is now worth two and a half times that so your taxes are as much as the mortgage was when you bought it but you can't sell it because even downsizing at this point would cost twice as much because of interest rates. I'm really not trying to complain because my parents, and many others have had it worse. Just seems like the goalposts keep moving.

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u/Sir-Shark 3h ago

That cheap house for 110k in 2017... Where I'm at in Utah, actually went up by 4x. I really wish I was joking. My parents bought their house for 120k. It was recently appraised at around 500k now. Home ownership isn't even a dream anymore.

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u/Rock_Strongo 3h ago

We bought our house (a rambler built in the 1960s) for $800k. It would have been $450k if we were ready to buy 5 years prior, but we weren't.

HCOL areas can be brutal.

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u/EastTyne1191 7h ago

The Game of Life had us believing that was GOALS.

They need to update it a little. Add some "graduate degrees become undervalued, go back 12 spaces."

Also "have nervous breakdown, get a job as a barista because at least you don't take that work home."

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u/MeltyCrab 7h ago

Man I am trying to get past the 45k mark, or even to the 40k mark at this point in my career.

Gotta start moving companies but jobs are very limited here and I genuinely don't have a toxic working environment. It's rough.

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u/funky-monkey-biscuit 5h ago

Ohhh that hit me right in the feels brother

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u/ChickenNPisza 5h ago

I wish it felt better knowing there’s a lot of us. But I feel like we just got swindled when we were too young to know what was going on lol. The boomers lifted the bridge after they crossed and Gen X has been sweeping up whatever scraps they can.

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u/THElaytox 6h ago

Hard same, finally got there and still feel like I'll never catch up

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u/Millimede 4h ago

I remember thinking if I could just make 50k I’d be set. lol.

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u/lordbenkai 6h ago

Right i only make at most 80k a year. And I need more way more if I want children.

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u/ReluctantMonster 6h ago

I swore when my wife and I made $60k a year together we'd be able to at least pay off some debt. Now I make that on my own, but rent is closing in on 2k a month and these two kids ain't getting any cheaper as they age (although thank god we are completely past diapers and pull ups).

That 3k on the credit card is just gonna have to stay there a bit longer...

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u/Arammil1784 6h ago

I make more now than ever, and I'm still forced to live like I'm a broke ass college student.

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u/theblob_1 3h ago

This. The goalpost keeps moving. Grateful for what I have compared to others, but 100k isn't close to what it was as the old 'gold standard'

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u/ialwaysdisagreewithu 3h ago edited 3h ago

Born in 88, working since 9 years old, on my own since 16. I lost everything in Hurricane Sandy, including my job. Started working at a cookie store for minimum wage in April 2013, and have never made more than ~$60-70k.

Landlords and renting practices are horrible, even in cities where tenants are protected, In cities where a huge portion of the central city housing is co-ops, like NYC, there are insane financing rules.

Costs of commodities has done nothing but increase, medical bills have gone up, and insurance fucks with you and of course is tied to employment.

I'm currently a millionaire, because I invested my money diligently and continued to do so the entire time, especially considering 2010 through today has been one of the biggest bull markets in history. Compound interest is a beast, so DCA combined with some small bets on speculation have led to massive windfalls.

Unless you dealt with major medical issues or caring for family members that aren't children (condoms were invented hundreds of years ago), there's no excuse for being destitute when the opportunities were there.

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u/Madismas 3h ago

What age did you cross that mark? Is was 42 for me.

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u/_bulletproof_1999 2h ago

Unfortunately that dream $100k salary in 1996 now needs to be a $200k salary due to inflation.

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u/WontSwerve 2h ago

100k used to be this goal where I thought I could do whatever I want within reason.

It's barely breathing room.

It's a gently used car. It's weekend road trips as a vacation and MAYBE every other year I can get on a plane and go someplace domestic for a few days. MAYBE.

You still spend half your income on rent and try so hard to save for a down payment you allow yourself nothing. By the time you get it, you realize you did nothing with most of your 20s other than grind. Oh and in that decade houses doubled or tripled or quadrupled in price. Or interest rates spiked up. Or you saved 100 bucks a week but groceries have gone up so you save 50 a week now. Wait, a fat orange pedophile started a war, now you save nothing at all.

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u/Similar-Swimmer-2698 2h ago

I feel you. I am there but live in a HCOL area, so I'm seriously cutting back to afford winter this year. My family is considering moving somewhere cheaper in the next 5 years, but the job market is insane.

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u/awarmguinness 1h ago

What's your line of work, any openings?

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u/_le_slap 21m ago

Facts.. big facts

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u/Clean_Bake_2180 2m ago

That $100k is probably closer to $250k now with inflation since you were 16.

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u/wildwolfay5 8h ago

CUTCO was supposed to be my way out...

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u/Neveronlyadream 8h ago

I feel for anyone who fell into the MLM pipeline.

Predatory bullshit, all of it.

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u/paper_liger 3h ago

It's all predatory bullshit, the whole thing. Cutco is just a little more obvious about the grift than your average fortune 500 company.

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u/Neveronlyadream 3h ago

You're not wrong, but the MLMs are an a completely different level of predatory bullshit.

Like they actively have you give them potentially thousands of dollars for the opportunity to sell their cheap shit without every telling you you're basically just throwing that money away.

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u/odellrules1985 8h ago

I mean unless you had an unlimited supply of brand new customers you could go to and how they required you to get customers, by referral and acceptance of referral only, it is not a great way to make money since their products are actually decent. I still have everything from my demo kit except my steak knife, I think an ex took it, and besides the chef knife, I have not sharpened anything and it still cuts well. The sheers even still cut pennies.

I never saw it as a way out. It was a quick job I tried and then moved on to something vastly more promising(IT).

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u/KimbersKimbos 7h ago

My mother bought a set off of my sister during her brief stink as a Cutco saleswoman.

My youngest was about 7 at the time, and my mom warned her when they were delivered that she had to be really careful because the new knives were really sharp. And this girl dead ass grabbed one, ran it across her palm, and then turned to my mom and said “wow, these ARE sharp!”

(And she grew up to be a delightful and well adjusted human being.)

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u/wakeofchaos 7h ago

Did you call it a “stink” on purpose lol?

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u/KimbersKimbos 6h ago

I didn’t! It’s an auto correct! I typed stint*!!!

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u/wakeofchaos 6h ago

Ah haha I was just gonna say that it’s an arguably appropriate name for a moment like this

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u/Pr0f-Cha0s 7h ago

lol I did the same thing 20+ years ago! Once I sold out to family and friends over the summer it was done, it was always just a summer job. I did manage to sell one of those elite kits with every knife in it that was like $2k. That couple hundred dollars lasted a whole month back then 😭 got caught smoking weed at that “retreat” they had over a weekend. So much fun, would recommend 10/10.

In a round about way found my way to IT also, congrats! I also have my like the chef knife, shears, two of those flat spread-then-cut knifes, one steak knife, and bread/filet knife. I wish I still had the cleaver, that thing was seriously badass

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u/odellrules1985 7h ago

Very much similar to me. Those kits are now $4k+ . The one that blew me away was the ice cream scoop. Watching the ice cube melt was crazy.

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u/wildwolfay5 5h ago

The fucking cheese knife.

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u/imgrahamy 7h ago

Fucking cutco.

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u/LA2983 4h ago

I did love me those cutco scissors

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u/wildwolfay5 4h ago

Well do I have a deal for you!

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u/Rapogi 5h ago

for me, its Amway

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u/Justdoingitagain 8h ago

Ah to be Al and Peg Bundy, living the dream.

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u/StaticSystemShock 7h ago

A house, car, wife and two kids and a dog. And bunch of insufferable neighbors. The later can be fixed.

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u/anicenap 5h ago

I make over 200k and don’t have a house as big as Al Bundy and I certainly don’t have a garage!!

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u/AppropriateTouching 7h ago

Made enough to support a family in a nice house while having a smoking hot wife. He really had it all.

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u/elevendyelves 8h ago

Became a lawyer thinking I’d be able to support a family, yet here I am barely able to support myself. Fun times all around!

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u/nalaloveslumpy 7h ago

In the Chicago suburbs, no less!

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u/Silent_Shadow98 6h ago

Al Bundy was a shoe salesman

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u/breathofspirit 3h ago

I grew up believing I could find a job

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u/4DimensionalButts 2h ago

The butterfly effect of that show is crazy btw.

Fox was a struggling network at the time and the ratings for the show weren't great. After a particular raunchy episode, a woman started a protest campaign. That protest led to increased viewership. If that woman hadn't protested, Fox would probably be gone. No Fox means no Simpsons. No Simpsons means TONS of other shows might not exist.

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u/ilovebreadcrusts 2h ago

Not since Al Bundy...

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u/DOOMISFORU 21m ago

You know Al you shouldn't believe everything you see on TV

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u/Aromatic-Taste2516 8h ago

That’s the difference between us and older gens. Not the working young. The fact that it got us nowhere and it got them houses and cars and such.

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u/Doc_Shaftoe 7h ago

Well it's definitely our fault. I mean we're obviously the ones who chose to be born after a singularly prosperous period in human history that led to vastly expanded wealth and opportunities available to lower- and middle-class households. What we were thinking?

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u/ssliberty 6h ago

Plus avocado toast apparently crippled us

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u/ialwaysdisagreewithu 6h ago edited 3h ago

Born in 88, working since 9 years old, on my own since 16. I lost everything in Hurricane Sandy, including my job. Started working at a cookie store for minimum wage in April 2013, and have never made more than ~$60-70k.

Landlords and renting practices are horrible, even in cities where tenants are protected, in cities where a huge portion of the central city housing is co-ops, like NYC, there are insane financing rules.

Costs of commodities has done nothing but increase, medical bills have gone up, and insurance fucks with you and of course is tied to employment.

I'm currently a millionaire, because I invested my money diligently and continued to do so the entire time, especially considering 2010 through today has been one of the biggest bull markets in history. Compound interest is a beast, so DCA combined with some small bets on speculation have led to massive windfalls.

Unless you dealt with major medical issues or caring for family members that aren't children (condoms were invented hundreds of years ago), there's no excuse for being destitute when the opportunities were there.

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u/Venusgate 3h ago

"Poor? Why not simply gamble and choose the winning bet? There's no excuse to remain poor!"

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u/ialwaysdisagreewithu 2h ago

I don't understand basic broad-market investing and diversification so I'll just call it gambling to make myself feel better.

FTFY.

You could just go to investopedia and read the first few pages, but that's too much work.

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u/Venusgate 2h ago

Someone has to lose for you to win

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u/ialwaysdisagreewithu 2h ago

That's not how the market works, but go off king.

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u/Venusgate 2h ago

Sorry, i don't believe in money fairies and trees. Someone has to pay you when you ask to turn in your shares.

They have lost value by giving you more money than you gave them.

Whether that value loss comes in the form of bad trades, inflation, or socialized losses doesn't change the fact that you were gambling to not be the first one. And the rest of us are gambling not to be the later two, against our will.

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u/Neon_Biscuit 6h ago

And the fact boomers don't sympathize with that fact

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u/whichwitch9 3h ago

I will say this: while I don't believe kids should devote all their free time to working, I will say I do think kids should at least have a part time job at some point in high school. There's a huge difference between the people who have and haven't from our hires. We pay a fairly good entry wage, but the amount that struggle with it being their first job out of college is absurd, and largely because they cannot interact with clients. The worst are those who come with masters degrees and no work history. They just lack people skills entirely. It's very frustrating cause we can't exactly teach that

We needed better balance as kids, but there was an overcorrection to the opposite. It's not just money- it's learning how to navigate a work environment (and shenanigans- I had a couple jobs I truly enjoyed as a kid for various reasons)

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u/DeficiencyOfGravitas 6h ago

Gots me everything I ever wanted, I can tell you that. Happiness ain't in things you know.

My bank accounts summed over 100k this week and it made me realize a lot of stuff. Firstly, that despite beginning a career at 30, I am not a loser. And secondly, a lot of people I thought had made it, haven't.

Things are harder now, yeah, but there are always winners. And losers. Who you are depends on who you are, if that makes any sense to you.

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u/Aromatic-Taste2516 6h ago

Annnnnd exception proves the rule. MONEY DONT BUY HAPPINESS BUT I DO GOT 100K THE BANK. Take that humble brag back down the lane, pal.

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u/DeficiencyOfGravitas 6h ago

I'm not saying I'm happy, but I am saying that being a total loser is a consequence of your choices. I fucked up the entirety of my 20s. But I made some choices when I was 30 to unfuck myself and now I have money.

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u/Aromatic-Taste2516 5h ago

Care to share how?

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u/DeficiencyOfGravitas 5h ago

I'll be blunt. Military service. The military attracts all kinds of people, but if you're capable, you'll quickly advance.

Ignore all the propaganda, for or against, and you'll understand that it's a government job that has regular promotions and a pension.

For what it's worth, I belong to a non-American military.

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u/MirandaScribes 8h ago

Exactly this. I’m happy to keep working. But working and not making a living is exhausting

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u/Significant-Trash632 6h ago

It's just a hamster wheel, and if you fall off or get sick you're screwed.

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u/PatriotRDX 8h ago

I’m tired of working now that it turned from me doing the fun parts of my job to me trying to write prompts for an AI to do all the fun stuff instead…while I write boring fucking paragraphs to it.

And then if the AI can’t do it I get blamed. If the AI can do it the AI gets the credit.

Hard to feel like I’m valued anymore.

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u/rosievee 7h ago

Yeah, I'm literally being asked to train AI to do my job. I assume that when I'm done, my career--which I've done for 30 years, and at which I'm top of my field --will become a junior prompt writing role tweaking all the knowledge and experience I've dumped into an LLM. And I'll be jobless long before retirement age, with no chance of salary replacement. Everything feels pointless. I'm so depressed I can barely get out of bed in the morning.

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u/Helldiverticulitis 6h ago

Bezos said we can have a 3 day work week though! More like a zero day work week, with the poverty to match.

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u/Archeotechnician 6h ago

That just the average. Half who have jobs right now will be working 6 days a week, the other half won't be working at all, because they won't have jobs. Through the magic of sycophancy, everyone ends up with a 3 day work week.

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u/Maxed_Zerker 6h ago

yeah my job is asking me to do exactly the same thing right now and the job market is too bad for me to even jump ship before it sinks

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u/rosievee 6h ago

My current sole career aspiration is severance.

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u/Neon_Biscuit 6h ago

I graduated with a degree in graphic design in 2006. Lol

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u/rosievee 6h ago

Oh fam. I'm sorry. I started out as an art director. Switched to technical program management thinking "they might not want to pay for designers, but they'll always need people to manage complex software projects..." Turns out "they" can't wait to not have to pay us, no matter what we do.

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u/madmax24601 6h ago

And @Maxed_Zerker: I'm petty af. You can bet your bottom dollar I'd be training those data models completely wrong and mess up the company numbers. Ask me to train the new guy so you can dump my position AND pay the newbie more $$?! Fuck outta here

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u/Significant-Trash632 6h ago

There's only one thing that should happen to those data centers:

https://giphy.com/gifs/l4pT9XrLXckOtSrba

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u/Quiet_Special8639 1h ago

Change careers then? I am changing mine at 46.

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u/ReverendRevolver 7h ago

Yup. Tired of 60-70 hour workweeks on salary with inconsistent schedule and my electric bill jumping from ~$200/month to $450 while everything else goes up in cost.

Working would be fine, if the cost of literally most of my waking life wasn't being exchanged for barely scraping by paying utilities/mortgage/feeding the kids.

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u/LPQ_Master 7h ago

Yeah it's wild. My electric bill in the summer is ~$700. 5 years ago it was ~$350 doing exactly the same thing.

That's ONLY ELECTRICITY. That's a 100% increase in 5 years for something you need to live. I really doubt anyone's pay increased more than 1/10th on average during that same time.

Now add every other little price in our nation increasing.. How TF people can afford to live anymore?

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u/SuchAKnitWit 8h ago

This part.

I'm making more than I ever have before but I still feel like I'm drowning.

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u/Scary-Friend-5494 8h ago

This part! Like and I know I’m not making a lot but 25.83 an hour should be able to support me while also allowing me to have a nest egg at least! But nope nothing like that. It’s sad that my hope for my retirement is the world ending.

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u/Significant-Trash632 6h ago

Same. Got a raise just last year.

Now it's laughable.

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u/bonezcustoms 5h ago

Yep! I remember making $250-$300 a week and being better off than I am now. And I make triple or more 😂 I remember being 20 and thinking "if I could make $500/week, I wouldn't even know what to do with it 😆

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u/sarnian-missy 7h ago

I'm 45, I have now been working for over 30 years. I'm just tired.

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u/akatherder 6h ago

Same, I'm 46 and been working and/or school fulltime since 15.

My college was a co-op school which means working 3 months, school for 3 months, alternating year-round for 5 years. No summer break. My last summer break was between junior and senior year of high school.

I've taken week-long vacations occasionally but that's my longest time off in 31 years. I guess, luckily, no gaps in employment.

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u/vfxninja 8h ago

my first paycheck for 2 weeks was $40

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u/MKZZX 6h ago

Lol obviously that's not real

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u/fuckeryizreal 7h ago

I’m tired of both, Grandpa.

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u/Beneficial_Layer2583 7h ago

Well that’s too damn bad! You keep digging!

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u/Mobb_Barley 8h ago

Yeah, this is it right here. I’ve gotten two raises in the past five years but I’m much poorer than I was because of the exponential increase of my rent and bills.

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u/2813josh 7h ago

Im tired of both.

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u/Blaze8711 8h ago

I wish I could like this more than once

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u/AccomplishedCow665 7h ago

I literally said this to my partner an hour ago

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u/Vrazel106 7h ago

Nah I'm tired of working. I want to enjoy hobbies now

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u/drdipepperjr 7h ago

I'm tired of being poor despite saving and depriving myself of everything my parents had because the goalposts keep moving.

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u/marvelous27 7h ago

This is the most correct statement

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u/Runic_Gloryhole 7h ago

Everytime I get a new job with a significant paybump FUCKING PRICES GO UP. EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. TIME. I'm sick of it. I'm almost making double what I was 4 years ago and I'm still living paycheck to paycheck.

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u/IntrepidHiker 7h ago

Ehhhhhh I'm kind of tired of working, ready for a looooong vacation lol

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u/DaishoShoto 7h ago

This right fucking here is the truth. I work too damn hard to be this damn broke.

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u/lordbenkai 6h ago

Same been working since 14. I have some nice electronics to show that's about it. My nice car got taken by the ex.

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u/Alarmed_Management21 5h ago

Same. I earned more money when I was in my 20s than I do now in my mid 30s and that’s not including inflation. I’m always looked at as a strong and positive employee, who’s won awards for performance. My field has been demolished by AI and greed. Trying to figure out what’s next and keep my chin up. It’s demoralizing though when the world feels this hopeless.

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u/5trang3r_dang3r 5h ago

And working for so long. Where does it go

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u/Chemical_Banana_2455 5h ago

Totally agree, but I think, more specifically, I’m dismayed over being poor despite my efforts, and I’m tired of perpetually carrying that feeling.

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u/Roscoe_Farang 5h ago

My parents managed fast food restaurants and took me and my two sisters to the beach and Disney world every year.

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u/xETankx 5h ago

Been at it since 14, 42 now. Currently working longer and harder than I ever did and it just feels like I've been getting paid the same as back then with how expensive life incrementally got then exploded in the past few years. What the fuck are we doing as a society to accept this shit!?

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u/canada1913 Millennial 4h ago

Poor people don’t work, broke people work but either spend too much or aren’t paid adequately to survive.

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u/DaneboJones 4h ago

Human millennials this is one of those economic doomer bot comments that reading enough of over time gets you to be proud of feeling hopeless

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u/EddieVanzetti 4h ago

When I was working at 16, I thought that be the time I was 30 if I had a college degree I would have a job that paid me enough to live, with enough for my hobbies and modest vacation, if not enough to be rich.

Nope, apparently middle class mediocrity is too much to ask for.

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u/Adequatematt 4h ago

Been telling a older crew at the local tavern this for years. They can’t believe I’m not sitting on a paid off house and a couple new cars in the driveway. I’m married with no kids and that makes the point less valid apparently. (That we haven’t been paid on par with inflation point)

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u/ElderberryTrick9697 3h ago

My sentiments exactly.

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u/Spiritual-Ninja9967 3h ago

Same..working since 17 and still poor

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u/JTUrwayne Older Millennial 3h ago

Between me and the wife we’re middle class, except when she gets her hours cut, gets laid off or in this last case, finds a new job that has it opening delayed by a month. Then despite me making $40k+, we’re suddenly on the verge of homelessness.

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u/Great-Hatsby 3h ago

That part.

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u/Still_Temporary4702 3h ago

Anyone making less than $80k/year should pay zero taxes.

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u/Mountain-House3287 2h ago

I am at the point, the same point in my life, where $5,000 added would not make a difference at all. 

And $5,000 taken away would leave me homeless.

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u/lotsofscrollin 2h ago

Damn right brother!

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u/josh_the_misanthrope 2h ago

I've been working since I was 15 full time, have been unemployed maybe for a cumulative 6 months over that period. I've been broke for 23 year. People who tell you working hard = automatic success are either incredibly stupid or lying to you.

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u/SpunkyMcButtlove07 1h ago

That's my secret, cap.

I'm always tired.

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u/bundy410 1h ago

Been working since 14 :/

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u/stargrazer10 1h ago

Agreed bruh. I think back in the old days working was just something you do. Nowadays it seems more like doing a lot not to better yourself....but to make some obscenely rich a hole even more obscenely rich

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u/spinyfever 50m ago

I'm tired of working 40 hours a week, sometimes 48 or 56 hours a week and still barely staying afloat.

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u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude 19m ago

Have you tried making more money?

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u/beaglelover89 5h ago

Yes!! My husband said he’s disappointed we can’t save any money. I’m just grateful we have enough to cover all the bills. I did think we’d be able to save at this point though, but the cost of living is outrageous

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u/No_Can_7713 3h ago

I'm definitely tired of working. First job in september of '97, my first week of grade 9. Been working ever since. "I'm tired of this grandpa"