r/Judaism • u/justjust000 • Jan 20 '26

We're what's left 😄

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u/Nanoneer Orthodox Jan 20 '26

I agree. I think it’s a comment that the era of Jews being over acquiescent to others is over if they can’t be relied on to support us

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26

I'd like to refine that. It was never "over", it's sheer stupidity as a minority to ever acquiesce, especially over our 4000 years. Every 60 years there seems to be a few million Pick Mes who need to have the world explained to them

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u/PuddingNaive7173 Jan 20 '26

Where does the 4000 come from? Second time I’ve seen it today. Otherwise always saw with 3k or 5786

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

I retraced and that number seems to come from Abraham's estimated time. For me it's mostly splitting the difference between known (Israel Stele - 3000) and improbable (Biblical date). The Torah recounts peoples from at least 4000+ but prior to that it's pretty much pure myth with centuries skimmed over. Honestly I think 3500 is more likely

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u/RedStripe77 Jan 22 '26

Last time I checked (in grad school in the 1990s) Abraham was dated to the period of Hammurabi, which was 1800 BCE. Haven’t checked recently, maybe there’s been a new archaeological find that helps pin it down better. But 4,000 years is a pretty good number, although Jews weren’t quite Jews yet. They were proto-children of Israel. (Actually Israel/Jacob hadn’t been born yet.)