r/HaircareScience • • Jun 01 '26

Discussion A note from the mods: updated rules, wiki, and what's coming

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We're overdue for a proper check-in. Over the past year or so we've made a number of changes to the rules and wiki, and rather than let them pile up without explanation, we wanted to lay everything out in one place.

Streamlined rules and updated wiki

The rules have been rewritten to be simpler and more general. The old rules had gradually become a patchwork of responses to specific trends and problem posts, which made them harder to apply consistently. The intent is the same as it's always been, the application should just be cleaner now. The wiki has also been updated to reflect the new rule.

Some pages that might be of general interest are

One new rule to note: please one question per question post and put the question in the title. We aim for questions to all be answered and it's harder if it's actually multiple questions, plus it's also harder to search for. See the asking questions guide for more info.

Why we hold a high bar

This sub ranks highly in Google search results for hair science questions, which means we have some responsibility for what people find when they're trying to learn. Our goal has always been to help people understand both hair and science. And not just give answers, but model how to evaluate evidence. The internet already has plenty of general hair content and science-washed marketing. We're trying to be the opposite of that.

Misinformation is also genuinely hard to undo. A single confidently-worded comment can do more damage than a sourced rebuttal can fix, especially in a field where quality research is limited and hard to identify. Most hair scientists work in industry rather than academia. This means industry-funded research isn't automatically bad, and academic sources aren't automatically good. We want to help the community develop the skills to evaluate sources critically rather than just defer to credentials.

We also want to be accessible. Commenters here range from academic researchers to people who are just curious and found us on Google. The goal is to be rigorous without being exclusionary: if you don't understand something, ask for clarification or a different explanation. If you're not sure a source meets our standards, ask. [Lab Muffin's approach to mechanistic thinking is a useful model for the kind of engagement we're aiming for](https://labmuffin.com/why-scientific-products-dont-always-work-mechanistic-reasoning/)

Moderation

All posts and comments are filtered for mod review before going live. Verified scientists and consistently approved users are exceptions. Active mods are myself, u/veglove, and u/thejoggler44 (Perry Romanowski , cosmetic chemist, co-host of Beauty Brains, and author/editor of several hair science texts). We're open to adding mods who are aligned with the mission. Message us if that's you.

Casual discussion thread

We've been piloting a pinned casual discussion thread for a few months. The purpose is to maintain a high standard in main comments while making room for opinions, personal experience, hypotheses, and adjacent conversation. The main thread is for scientifically verifiable claims with sources; the casual discussion thread is for everything else — personal practices, product experiences, industry commentary, and so on. Please note that if you do just want to share general advice without sources, there are tons of subreddits that would love your help..

One important note: casual discussion is not a pass to make unsourced factual claims about hair science. Misinformation spreads even from people who sound knowledgeable, and "you can Google it" is not a source. If you're making a factual claim about how hair or a product behaves, you still need to back it up. Note that some post types like Discussion flair operate a little differently- see the wiki for details.

A note on the wiki

If you've been here a while, you may notice the wiki looks very different. The old wiki had grown over many years and unfortunately a lot of it had not aged well. For example, some pages repeated claims that we now know are myths, presented as fact. Rather than patch it page by page, we decided to start fresh. The new wiki is intentionally slim for now. It covers the essentials: how to ask and answer questions, how to evaluate sources, and how to find good research. We'd rather have a small wiki we can stand behind than a large one we can't. We'll add to it over time.

AMAs

AMAs are a better fit for broader or more casual questions that don't belong in the main feed. We're hoping to run more of them. If you have a guest suggestion, let us know in the comments.

Advice posts: we want your feedback

Advice questions (help with your own hair, product recommendations, routine questions) are currently not permitted. We're considering introducing Advice Fridays: one day per week where those questions are allowed. Before we do, we want to hear from the community: is this something you feel is missing, and something you can't get elsewhere? We would require that answers come from an expert or have sources backing claims. It may be a challenge to get such answers and that's why we've redirected people to more general hair subs. Medical questions (scalp conditions, hair loss) would remain off-limits regardless as those belong with a doctor or dermatologist.

Let us know what you think in the comments.


r/HaircareScience • • Feb 01 '26

Event AMA: Natalie and Sadie from Beauty by the Beaker

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Hi everyone! We're excited to welcome Natalie and Sadie, the cosmetic chemists behind the podcast/video series Beauty by the Beaker.

Natalie and Sadie are cosmetic chemists with 10 years of combined industry experience. They host a podcast called Beauty by the Beaker, where they break down the science behind skincare and haircare. They chat about ingredients, formulation myths, and how products actually work, in a way that’s fun and easy to understand. 

I hope you'll enjoy asking them some questions!


r/HaircareScience • • 4d ago

Discussion What does conditioning mean in hair science?

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This is a question asked in a previous thread and I have collected a lot of info about it so I thought I'd write a discussion.

I'll start with Conditioning Agents for Hair and Skin, a book edited by Perry Romanowski (/u/thejoggler44) and Randy Schueller in 1999. AFAIK it's the only book specifically on the subject.

Helpfully in chapter 1 they provide a definition:

A product can be said to have conditioning properties if it improves the surface to which it is applied particularly if this improvement involves the correction or prevention of some aspects of surface damage

In plain English I believe this could be boiled down to

  • Makes the surface look and feel better, like soft, shiny or smooth
  • "Fixes" existing damage like smoothing down rough areas
  • Protects against future damage, acting like a shield to prevent further damage like UV, heat, friction

In the context of hair, the chapter goes on to list some components of conditioning

  • Structural factors: Mainly the damage to the cuticle, when the scales are chipped, raised, or broken by actions such as combing. The damage leaves the hair vulnerable to more damage, so to help with this conditioners help maintain a smoothing coating on the outside
  • Compositional elements: Natural lipids can get stripped from hair, which can make it more brittle and prone to damage. Water, which usually is determined by humidity (explained in our myths guide) but the book says when hair is dried by heating it can impair this (histeresis), which can make hair less soft and more prone to breakage. Conditioner can help add these things (lipids and water) back to hair.
  • Appearance: consumers tend to associate shine and color with health, and conditioner can add both to hair
  • Tactile Perception: Conditioning can make the hair feel softer by smoothing the cuticle and assuring the proper level of lipids/moisture, also lubrication which makes the hair easier to groom and helps prevent grooming friction damage
  • Physical properties: Like improving tensile strength, reducing static charges that cause flyaways, and frictional characteristics

Now let's go to the other main hair book Chemical and Physical Behavior of Human Hair by the late Clarence Robbins, last published in 2012

For hair conditioning products the principle function involves combability. Ease of combing depends primarily on lubrication of the fiber surface. This action is accomplished by the sorption or binding of lubricating or conditioning ingredients onto the hair surface.

This is a simpler definition that may be too simple in some ways, but gets to something important which is that hair conditioners deposit stuff on the hair surface. In modern conditioners this is often "cationic surfactant in combination with long-chain fatty alcohol or other lipid components", these are unique to modern chemistry.

Before the mid 20th century most conditioning was just applying oils and grease to dry hair. In the mid-twentieth century the advent of chemical treatments and shampoos meant they needed a product that could deposit on wet hair and not just be completely rinsed down the drain when rinsed.

Another issue with oil/grease is that damaged hair becomes hydrophilic (water loving) and that means oil is less likely to stick on it. Cationic surfactants get around this by being positively (cationically) charged, so they are attracted to the negative charges on the damage surface. This is also useful because they are going to be MORE attracted to those damaged areas than undamaged areas.

Finally my third book, Hair Care an Illustrated Handbook (2005) by Dr. Zoe Diana Draelos, which is unlike the previous sources targeted at dermatologists (MDs) not chemist formulators.

Its most simple definition is: - Conditioners: Leave the hair soft and smooth after sebum removal

and later on expounds on it in a dedicated section

Conditioners are liquids, creams, pastes, or gels that mimic sebum in making the hair manageable, glossy, and soft. The role of conditioners goes beyond maintaining the appearance of healthy hair. Conditioners also attempt to recondition hair that has been damaged by chemical or mechanical trauma. Common sources of trauma include excessive brushing, hot blow-drying, permanent hair waves, hair straightening, hair bleaching, etc. Damage to the hair shaft can also occur through environmental factors such as exposure to sunlight, air pollution, wind, seawater, and chlorinated swimming pool water.26 This type of hair damage is technically known as ‘weathering.’ Obviously, since hair is nonliving tissue,

Healthy, undamaged hair is soft, resilient, and easy to disentangle. Unfortunately, the trauma caused by shampooing, drying, combing, brushing, styling, dyeing, and permanent waving damages the hair, making it harsh, brittle, and difficult to disentangle. Hair conditioners are designed to reverse this hair damage by decreasing static electricity, improving manageability, increasing hair shine, decreasing split ends, and improving hair flexibility.

As an aside a common online discussion goes along the lines of "if shampoo removes sebum, and conditioner adds it back, shampoo must be bad and if we stop using it we won't need conditioner" which understates the benefits of shampoo and also ignores the fact that conditioner corrects for a lot of non-shampoo related damage. It's talked about on our myths page.

Anyway, maybe that was helpful, keep in mind I am not a chemist or a formulator, nor do I work in the industry, just an enthusiast trained to read scientific research as part of my unrelated sciences degree and I also did some professional science writing in the past.

I would love any industry folks or scientists to weigh in, and feel free to ask followup questions


r/HaircareScience • • 4d ago

Question Does Conditioner “Soak In”?

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Does it really matter how long the conditioner is on the hair? The instructions say leave it on for X minutes, but I’ve got things to do.


r/HaircareScience • • 5d ago

Question Does a conditioner's viscosity have any relationship to its level of conditioning?

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Is a conditioner's physical thickness (viscosity) related to how much conditioning it provides, or can the two be formulated independently?

For example, could a thick, rich-feeling conditioner (the kind often marketed as a "mask") be formulated to be low in conditioning?

My understanding is that "mask" is a consumer marketing term rather than a technical one, but consumers seem to strongly believe that anything that is thick/rich feeling and marketed as a mask is more containing. I'm especially interested in hearing from cosmetic chemists and formulators.


r/HaircareScience • • 10d ago

Question Is this an accurate description of what Jojoba oil does for the hair?

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This bottle says jojoba oil penetrates the inside of hair shaft and reduces the swelling and shrinking of hair as it goes from wet to dry. How accurate is this statement in the bottle?


r/HaircareScience • • 14d ago

Question Straightening wet hair

68 Upvotes

Science backed answers only—

Why is straightening wet hair so bad? I get that it is likely ineffective, but doesn’t heat on wet hair just…steam it? Why is it more damaging than straightening dry hair?


r/HaircareScience • • 20d ago

Question Are 2-in-1 dandruff shampoos counterproductive due to conditioning agents potentially feeding yeast?

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I’ve always wondered this, because the formula of course will touch the scalp when someone is using a two in one. From what I understand, only certain agents in conditioner particularly oils (but not all) can feed yeast so maybe they are formulated without those?

This is mostly for curiosity, I usually use the regular head and shoulders shampoo and a separate conditioner but I had to use the 2 in 1 the other day and added some conditioner to the ends after because that shit does not do it for long hair lol.


r/HaircareScience • • 26d ago

Question Does prewetting your hair prevent soaking in more water?

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Common wisdom suggests that prewetting your hair before bathing in heavily chlorinated water helps prevent damage to hair. It seems most people are operating under the idea that hair is like a sponge. I have also read some Lab Muffin posts which seem to state that water breaks hair bonds and temporarily bonds with hair until it dries. That seems to lend it self to the idea that water already parked there is going to stay bonded and not move. Has this been scientifically studied?


r/HaircareScience • • Sep 11 '26

Question Does oxidative hair color really accelerate the fading of a Brazilian blowout?

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Hi,

During my training, I learned that oxidative coloring should be done before a Brazilian blowout (a smoothing treatment using keratin set with formalin or formaldehyde-releasing agents), because otherwise the treatment won't last as long.

However, I had previously learned—before discovering it was a myth—that salts and SLS-based shampoos also accelerate fading. I’m now questioning some of what I know, as I haven't been able to find a reliable source.

Thanks!


r/HaircareScience • • Sep 10 '26

Question Are there any scientifically backed methods or ingredients proven to increase individual hair strand diameter/thickness over time?

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As per title.


r/HaircareScience • • Sep 08 '26

Question Why must glyoxylic acid straightening treatments be shampooed out same-day, unlike keratin/BB or Japanese straightening

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Hello,

I've always been taught in my training that straightening treatments using acids and heat (like glyoxylic acid straightening) should be washed out with shampoo the same day, followed by a hair mask, unlike keratin/BB treatments or Japanese straightening.

However, I haven't found any more information on this in the literature, and it's been a while since I've looked into it further, so I've forgotten a lot.

Does anyone have the chemical explanation behind this? Thank you.


r/HaircareScience • • Sep 08 '26

Discussion what is the most relevant field of study to understand the structure of hair and how haircare interacts with it?

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i'm considering going for a bachelor's but unsure of what to major in. hair and skincare have always been passions of mine and i would love to delve into research! i am already interested in pursuing chemistry (to become a cosmetic chemist or for its own sake) or biochemistry. so what would be the most relevant here?


r/HaircareScience • • Sep 05 '26

Question Scientific difference between leave-in conditioner vs rinse-out conditioner

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Im so confused about these two product catagories, and hope to find out if they do exactly the same and so just different ways of deposition conditioning agents on the hair, or do thet actually offer something "more" or "different" on their own?

I have 3b curly har, normal/fine, medium to low porosity.


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 19 '26

Question How does metal residue affect hair?

20 Upvotes

As opposed to metals like copper and iron being deposited from washing with hard water, how does residue from actively working with metals like silver and brass affect hair, and how can the issues it might cause be resolved?


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 18 '26

Discussion Any haircare science jobs/careers out there?

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Hi. I am reaching out to see if anyone has information to offer on possible jobs or career paths in haircare science. I have my B.S in biochemistry and I have experience in labs ranging from qPCR to histology. I am the second author on a publication from my time as a research assistant.
In 2022, I pivoted and started my career as a hairstylist. I was going through so much at the time and it felt like an avenue that would be fulfilling. I love merging my passion for science with my creativity, and I have enjoyed being a business owner. However, I miss science so much. I miss being in the lab.

In a perfect world, I think it’d be awesome to work in a cosmetic lab, working with formulating. However, it seems this is very region specific and there aren’t a lot of opportunities in Columbus, Ohio.

Does anyone know of any practical jobs that seem fitting?


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 18 '26

Question Regarding the expiration date of the straightening products

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Hello,

I specialize in hair straightening treatments, though I am not a cosmetic chemist (I’m hoping Perry might weigh in on this).

I would like to know more about the expiration dates indicated by manufacturers on these products—whether they are glyoxyloyl carbocysteine-based or formaldehyde-releasing formulas.

Beyond safety concerns, I am interested in the impact on efficacy: once the product has been opened or has passed the date marked on the bottle, to what extent does its straightening power diminish?

Does it drop off rapidly and significantly, and what is the underlying chemical process?


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 18 '26

Question Do perms permanently affect new hair too? Or just pre-existing hair?

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Hi! I have straight virgin hair and I'm thinking of getting a perm. I keep reading from different websites that the process is chemically irreversible and permanent, but is that really the case? Or am I misunderstanding and it only applies to pre existing hair... 🤔


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 12 '26

Question Does Fermented Yeast protein increase DHT leading to hair loss?

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Does Fermented Yeast protein increase DHT leading to hair loss?


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 09 '26

Question What is the actual science behind targeting "mitochondrial dysfunction" for hair growth (specifically the Y100 molecule)?

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I keep seeing mentions of a new active ingredient entering the haircare space called Y100, which is apparently derived from the Terminalia chebula plant. I am not going to name any products here but a quick google search will tell you which ones are using it.

The main claim I'm seeing is that instead of just increasing blood flow to the scalp (like traditional treatments), it targets "mitochondrial dysfunction" to give hair follicles more cellular energy and keep them in the growth phase longer.

I’m just a regular consumer trying to cut through the marketing jargon. When I try to look up Y100, there isn't much out there yet, and most of the general literature on Terminalia chebula just says it's an antioxidant.

For the cosmetic chemists and biology folks here: Does targeting mitochondrial energy actually do anything for hair follicles? And is there an established mechanism for how a topical extract like this would actually achieve that, or are these just buzzwords?


r/HaircareScience • • Aug 05 '26

Question Does lack of keratin in dry shampoo affect effectiveness of product?

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At TJ Maxx I noticed the Vanilla Soufflé scent of Batiste dry shampoo was the only one advertised as not containing keratin in the formula. The ingredient list for the vanilla soufflé one also confirmed it lacks keratin when I compared it to the other scents.

Which brings me to this:

Does the lack of keratin (and reliance on rice starch alone, as opposed to having both) this make it a less effective dry shampoo than the other scents?

I’d appreciate if anyone could clarify, because as much as I’d love my hair to smell like vanilla soufflé I wouldn’t want to sacrifice having an effective dry shampoo.


r/HaircareScience • • Jul 27 '26

Question Why are chelating shampoos often also clarifying shampoos?

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Why are chelating shampoos often paired with which strong surfactants?

Is it because the chelating ingredients only work/work best when the hair is completely free of product?

Are there any chelating shampoos with gentle surfactants? I’d like to use my chelating shampoo more regularly (Malibu c hard water wellness) but it’s such a strong cleanser that I cannot use it too often.


r/HaircareScience • • Jul 26 '26

Question Would the filters in French sunscreens react with hair extensions?

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I know that chemical sunscreens that contain Avobenzone, when they come in contact with hair extensions, react with the hair and cause the extensions to turn color. I’m wondering if the different filters that are used in French sunscreens, although still chemical filters, would be okay to use? If needed I can post photos of the ingredients on the 2 that I own. Thanks!


r/HaircareScience • • Jul 06 '26

Question Can insulin resistance alone cause androgenetic alopecia without a genetic predisposition

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I'm trying to understand the relationship between insulin resistance and androgenetic alopecia (AGA/female pattern hair loss).

I've read that insulin resistance can increase androgen activity and possibly increase DHT levels. My question is:

If someone has no genetic predisposition to AGA (their hair follicles are not genetically sensitive to DHT), can insulin resistance by itself cause true AGA and follicle miniaturization? Or does insulin resistance only trigger or accelerate AGA in people who are already genetically susceptible?

In other words, can insulin resistance actually make previously normal hair follicles start behaving like AGA follicles, or is genetic susceptibility considered necessary?

I'd appreciate answers based on current research or from dermatologists/endocrinologists if possible.


r/HaircareScience • • Jul 04 '26

Question Is there evidence that any non-chemical intervention can permanently alter hair curl pattern?

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Is there evidence that any non-chemical intervention can permanently alter hair curl pattern, straight to curly?