r/EndeavourOS • u/Able-Farm6295 • 10d ago
Discussion Is EndeavourOS safe for daily use?
I’ve been using EndeavourOS recently and honestly, it feels really fast and snappy. I’m actually liking it so far.
I’m just wondering, is it safe and stable enough to use as a daily driver?
I mostly use my PC for browsing, watching YouTube, installing apps, and normal everyday stuff.
I know it’s Arch-based and rolling release, so I’m a bit worried about updates breaking things or causing problems.
For those who have been using EndeavourOS for a long time, how has your experience been?
Would you recommend it for daily use?
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u/BoringBottle7904 10d ago
if you don't do anything funny with it, I've been using this same install for nearly 3 years
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u/moopet 10d ago
Same. Used Arch for a couple of years before as well, and that only broke once I think, unless it was me playing silly buggers with the config.
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u/Infamous_Prompt_6126 9d ago
To be honest, I use it to work and broke it almost alone 3 times.
Specially dual boot with w11. Every update GRUB is at risk.
But I recommend it (with a pendrive for quick repair).
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u/SuAlfons 10d ago
I've been using EndeavourOS for close to 4 years. It was fast, gave little trouble. A great daily driver distro.
I tested Fedora a while ago and went with it - one reason being my finicky Seagate USB disk didn't fully shut down when I used EndeavourOS. (It kept flicking its light and tried to start the motor. No amount of googling and checking/creating UDEV rules or doing plain reinstals helped)
Now, without me changing anything in that regard, said drive doesn't shut down completely anymore under Fedora, too. ¯\_༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽_/¯. Some update must have changed something and I have no idea what it might have been.
So, in my book, EndeavourOS is a good daily driver distro. As is Fedora. I might get a different USB disk one day....
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u/Astralshpx 9d ago
If anything, my experience has improved over the years. For example I had issues with sleep and nvidia but now it's working perfectly.
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u/Astralshpx 9d ago
However I did experience one slight inconvenience when updating which was solved swiftly with the help of the EOS forum. It was probably caused by me not updating as often as I should but overall it's been a good daily drive.
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u/jeroenim0 9d ago
4 years same install laptop and home pc.
You are on arch! Always possible there is a glitch. But with a great strategy you can always revert back to the backup.
I’m using Limine-snapper sync with btrfs. Bad update you just control z it on the bootloader. Reboot to working version and restore.
https://gitlab.com/Zesko/limine-snapper-sync
Go for it ….
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u/danderzei i3wm 10d ago
Been using it for as long as it has been around - the only issues come from upstream problems in packages.
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u/atlasraven 10d ago
Been using it over a year, one major update failure disabled networking. Fixed it myself by manually rolling back a driver from the cache. Like everything, have a backup plan. It's Arch so don't expect complete stability.
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u/Johan-MellowFellow 9d ago
"It's Arch so don't expect complete stability." Is this real? Or is it hype? Based on all the responses including this one, it sounds we CAN expect complete stability, or at least as good stability as non arch.
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u/atlasraven 9d ago
I think you skipped over the failed update with disabled networking part of my comment. That's a show stopper for most newbies but I powered through it. And I understate things for effect. My opinion is it is UNSTABLE but can be mitigated with a good backup plan.
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u/FanClubof5 9d ago
I had an issue where there was a regression in the Nvidia drivers last year and I had to wait ~1 month before I could update again.
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u/Johan-MellowFellow 9d ago
Or is reallity that NO system is completely stable, and EOS is no worse than others. Even LTS distros arent 100% stable because they ultimately arent perfect, security is a never ending battle, and inevitably you need to add or change something.
I like the idea of a cadence of monthly, so i can at least choose a time when i have the bandwidth to deal with any issues.
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u/New_Willingness6453 10d ago
I don't do anything unique and i've been using it daily on my desktop and laptop for 2 years now.
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u/His_Turdness 9d ago
I've borked my system countless times by tinkering. I have always been able to roll back, or completely reinstall the root partition and restore my home partition. Or completely restore a wiped out drive with a rSync-based TimeShift backup (this was when I upgraded to a new motherboard and NVME drive.
Now that my system is set up just the way I want it, it has been super stable. I usually update once per week.
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u/yevelnad 10d ago
I use arch and it has never break on me. There are some few quirks here are there but all are fixable.
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u/RunLikeHell 10d ago
One time I tried updating but the HDD was completely full and it booted to black screen after crashing mid update. I was able to use the usb stick with EOS on it to boot to terminal after failing with grub, I cleared some space and restored a backup with Timeshift and I was back in business. Other than that it has been rock solid. Remember to always backup.
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u/pls-no-punterino 10d ago
been dailying on my laptop for 3 years, no problems whatsoever. around the same time I also installed it on my PC, but it fails about a year ago due to a failed config that breaks the boot; switched to CachyOS on the PC now
as long as you're careful with your config, should be fine
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u/Saltkrakan01 10d ago
I'm using it for years and no problems so far. I recommend to update at least once in the month, better once in two weeks and stick with most default configuration of stuff under the hood. In my opinion, trying to be unique snowflake, is mostly not worth efford. Also dualbooting with Windows is causing significant headaches sometimes. But it is for every distro and I don't know, if it's Your case.
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u/Responsible_Pen4 9d ago
I used it for about two years without any problems, even updated were problem-free from me. I only stopped using it because I changed SSD and wanted to try Bazzite but I was very happy with EndeavourOS.
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u/AntiqueSignpost 9d ago
every issue ive ever had with endeavour and cachy have been because of my own doing, and they were only ever things for the specific app, for example making a type in a config file for niri or firefox if im customising it. and then only that app wasnt working, not my system itself. ive had literally zero issues with endeavour itself. people say arch is unstable and exaggerate that. yes thre's more chance there could be a conflict in a dependency with a new update in an app or something, but even then, it is likely to also get fixed quicker.
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u/2funny2furious 9d ago
I've had one issue in 1-1.5 years. Basically self inflicted. Reinstall of nvidia drivers and I was back in action.
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u/chibi-mage 9d ago
I used it for a few months while I was first learning Linux and I really really love it!!! I only switched to artix because I wanted to try arch without systemd. endeavour was very good in my opinion especially as a noob who is prone to breaking things lol
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u/Gr1m3yjr 9d ago
I switched not too long ago from an Ubuntu machine. Honestly, I have found I’m actually getting a more reliable experience than Ubuntu. I am running it with two WMs and can easily switch between them, gaming is smooth, my work is smooth, updates so far have only fixed things if anything, and never broken anything. The only tiny issue I have is sleep on my Sway wm causes audio output through my GPU to stop working and so far the only solution I’ve been able to find is a reboot. Given how fast that is and if I remember to keep sleep inhibitor on, it’s not really an issue, especially since my monitor audio sucks anyway
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u/xylophonic_mountain 9d ago
Oh yes. I've been using it heavily for more than 4 years now. It's easily the most stable distro I've used. It's even more stable than debian for me, since debian gives me problems on full upgrades (although between full release upgrades debian is easier).
The only thing is that you have to frequently update, and periodically run the reflector app so your mirrors stay up-to-date. I've never had any impairments to the functioning of my system, and I use it heavily for work.
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u/AuGmENTor68 9d ago
Been running Endeavor OS for like a year on an older laptop. No stability issues at all.
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u/Jesterace77 9d ago
I've been running it daily on two of my machines. I haven't had many issues that I couldn't sort out myself. I haven't had any crashes either.
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u/fthecatrock 9d ago edited 9d ago
as long as you update frequently, there will be no issue, I have like 3 system running endeavoros for various reason for about 4-5 years, one of them for daily driver.
mind you, I was hoping from ubuntu, mint, last stop was Manjaro with bad experiences.
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u/LivingLegend844 9d ago edited 9d ago
I don't understand the fear towards Arch/EndeavourOS, rolling release distros. I use them both for more than a year on main PC and secondary PC in the garage. Nothing ever broke after an update, updating once and sometimes twice a week.
Main PC is a recent one, 9950X3D, RX 9070XT, 96GB RAM, running EOS (with Windows 11dual-boot on 2nd SSD), the other one a 20 years old Core2 Duo with 4GB running vanilla Arch with XFCE 4.20. Never had a problem. These 2 systems for me are as stable as my Debian server installation.
edit: Forgot the mini PC running EndeavourOS too, for the TV. Never had a problem with it.
Is it me that is "lucky" not to have something breaking after an update?🤔
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u/linux_rox 7d ago
No it's not a "luck" thing. You just got to remember in reddit people are looking for help b3cause they don't understand what happened and dont realize a lot times the unstability is caused by their own doings. Overclocking, trying to reprogram configure files to get that extra FPS or to reduce boot time to nano-seconds etc.
I had Endeavour break once from an update, it was a bad GRUB update back in 2022. It affected everyone on Arch and Arch based distros running GRUB. It was becuase of that incident that they started defaulting to systemd-boot.
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u/frankFerg1616 9d ago
You can setup Snapper (requires btrfs instead of ext4) and Informant to provide some safety nets for yourself. Snapper will take snapshots of your system every time you update, which you can boot into on startup if you break your system. Informant will prevent updates if there's new posts on the arch news site, which can help ensure you're informed of any system breaking updates requiring manual intervention.
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u/FanClubof5 9d ago
I haven't seen anyone suggesting this in the thread but I highly recommend using the time shift tool to take snapshots when you update. Btrfs is best but ext4 is fine as well. There is a guide on the arch wiki that shows how you can setup access to your snapshots during boot so you can recover even if you do mess something up.
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u/SaltyBooze 9d ago
i use it for daily driving.
adding some extra usages (some development, some hosting of web services, etc) it's basically the same as your usage.
no problems so far.
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u/HNTRMEDIA 9d ago
Following this cuz i just came from bazzite. M not good with terminal but I'm having issues with kdewallet prompt
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u/Objective-Cry-6700 8d ago
Safer and more stable than Windows 11. I used it as my main daily driver for a couple of years. I use Arch or Arch-based distros all the time.
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u/MikeDudeRVLS KDE Plasma 4d ago
been using it for weeks now, always my daily. switched over from mint, and this is my fav. i use it daily for browsing, yt is fast, gaming is the best, customized the whole thing cus why not, do recomend for daily use
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u/Zer0_Dark_Turdy 10d ago
No, every time i boot up my pc EOS is close to launching North Koreas entire nuclear arsenal...
Absolutley not safe!
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