Just like with ABMM, it hurts the PvPvE players the most. And as we have already seen, the Mixed demographic is the one that has lost the most players since April, going from 40% (a majority) to 27% (the minority) in September. Embark keep fumbling the Mixed playerbase in an attempt to appease the two extremes instead of focusing on the core of the game

I just got killed by players in a PVE lobby after killing the queen… multiple people all went down. And yes I checked it was a PvE lobby a million times over before and after, and my teammate who’s new, when fighting even shot at a team we were killing the queen with (misclick) and nothing happened, earlier in the game.

After killing the queen right, I see a raider flair and peaked interest to run over see if I could help or loot a dead body, I see a couple guys, thought nothing of it. Because why would I?
Then they shot me and downed me and my team mate? What the actual …

Am I missing something specialised in the update? For matriarch lobby or did I come across cheaters or a bugged lobby? :/

I had a fully kitted load out and 2 reactors too. Absolutely bummed about this “bug” or whatever it is.

As you can tell from the squads reaction, we knew we were in a PVE lobby, but this happened at the end.
At this point I’m running to the guy downed in front to help.

****UPDATE\\**

Couldn’t find their name on the game so I sent a fr which I will cancel\* and then clicked their profile through requests in Arc.
Their steam has some questionable accusations too. All complaints on their profile 59.
Reported both in game and steam incase. Though we cannot guarantee cheating, as it could be a game UI bug as a lot of people seem to be experiencing this player behaviour in PvE too. Wanted to make this clear too as I don’t want a “witch hunt” on the specific player as such. The image in comments is to show that player damage and was 100% downed by a player, but it’s too fast to see the screen in the video at the end.

Also wanted to say again,
We had triple checked it was PVE we were going into, due to the little good I kit had left as a returning player. I.e auguments etc so we triple checked as I didn’t want to lose it to a PVPVE lobby as I am absolutely dog at player gun fights sometimes, especially as a returning player too.

AND as mentioned above, my teammate who is new to the game, shot some of the other team around us who were helping kill the queen in crossfire whilst shooting the queen. AT the start of the lobby.
This done NO damage and caused no issues. (I’m pretty certain that very team who helped kill the queen, were downed by the same people, the guy on the floor in the clip)
We could see the green shield splashes instead of anything breaking.
This is a genuine PVE selected lobby.

Current suspicion in comments amongst the community is UI Bug or Cheaters.
I’d also like to make it clear I’m aware cheating is an issue no matter what game you play. I just wanted to spread awareness of this right now as a returning player who was looking forward to PvE and not being slimed by a player, when I was trying to have a fun boss fight and teach a new player.
And also for debate or other peoples experiences/ if they’ve had similar in the NEW PVE mode

I do not have any other footage to show prior to starting the game in the menu or before being killed because I had no reason to clip anything. My pre recording clips, clip to 30seconds on medal. I was not streaming on twitch at the time unfortunately either. It’s a case of taking my word for it which i understand some people won’t want to and would rather see it for their own eyes. And that’s valid to feel that way too!

Thanks!!

Just leave this shit up. I really dont give two damns about "the economy" and "balance", I just wanna blow arc up with my friends and do random ass quests. I always thought Marathon quests wipe the floor with Arc, but after playing this for one day with my boys i'd be happy with 1000 variations of "deal 100000 damage to wasps". if you can make it "kill 100 wasps and the queen will spawn that you also have to kill to complete the quest", even better.

this is it, test successfully passed, keep the "pve on" boolean on true until you come up with 10000 mindless "kill this many arc for a dopamine rush" and you got a kick ass game on your hand.

i dont think there was ever a game studio that had such an easy way to profit as you guys have.

cheers, i'm off to blast some arc up with my boys.

People bull rush you off ledges, bull rush you to prevent you from looting and then bull rush you to prevent you from extracting.

Ive been playing carebear games for weeks now and I thought PvE would be great, well, I was wrong. Games feel like a shop simulator, nobody talks, nobody interacts, just go in, loot, bye. If I had the option to vote I would keep PvPvE and ABMM as it is and scrap PvE. I think we need that carebear interaction where people choose to hold their guns, you still have some fear of being shot etc.. Personally I really disliked PvE toggle, game feels bland, soulless.

The vast majority of supporters of the mode prior to its implementation seem to have actually hoped for a single player/co-op mode instead of a true PvE lobby.

In hindsight, it seems obvious, putting 30 strangers in an extraction game means the ultimate determination of its fun-factor would be player interactions. Restricting PvP inadvertently makes these interactions much less consequential, resulting in a muted loot-gathering simulator, where other players mostly exist as a nuisance.

Most of us know, the best moments this game produces are spontaneous and player-driven. But what many didn’t realize is the need to seek out friendly raiders, is why you did it in the first place.

Arc raiders is supposed to be a literal apocalypse, pushing players to react like… humans. We are mostly selfish, often violent, with glimmers of honor and integrity that make the whole experience unpredictable. It just serves as another example of the human need to experience lows to cherish the highs. Without them, this apocalypse shooter turns into a largely uneventful grocery trip, surrounded by other shoppers you have no reason to talk to.

dont get comfortable

probably a hook interaction? or I have zero Idea what that was

Doubt anyone will play this mode if it just means people camp high value areas and steal all ur loot

Me after playing a few matches in PvE

RIP the dude who tried it after me. We begged for a defib for like 10 mins at the top before somehow making it here

We just went for our first pve raid on the new map, and when got into a snow pod with our expensive amplified gear, two free kit scumbags tried to block us from leaving (door and stairs) and started to ask for our loot to "clear the path".

Luckily we managed to agro some arc and run away. I told them i was ready to recycle everything on me and they stopped talking shit.

The bull push skill is a must, also the new itens that lock people by a rope (still didnt used it) maybe would help.

Stay alert, raiders!

Unfortunately the arc didn't get him but always should carry a cloak

All seen was collected in 1 pve mode game. In the shopping centre on the new map.Tempest included no keys no puzzles no events. Just normal map conditions.

Edited: no security breach either. Don't have the perk.

This is in Solo’s. Used my key and these two ran in, placed pulse and gas mines the whole way, tried to bullrush me off ledges, and then bullrushed me off loot. These two admitted to queue sniping each other’s lobby so that they could do this! Guy at the end called me slurs all throughout and you can hear him do so at the end. Will continue to use my keys in PvP only

It’s time boys!

No hate to the guys who like this Game Mode...I myself am a carebear with low ABMM and i love socialising with other fellow raiders...But the whole fear factor of trust issues and looking behind your back and knowing you can be killed at any moment is not present in the game mode at all..I will stick to PvEvP lobbies and hopefully that mode won't be a full on sweat PvP mode either

I have been jerked enough to feel the need to write this out into the void.

I have very very fond memories of tech test 2 and the early days of arc raiders on release. This game demands tension, without tension its a sandbox experience with no real economy or risk, i have played one session on pve and my inventory would make jeff bezos weep with envy, its so easy.

Pve breaks this game, the current abmm breaks this game, stop trying so hard to please everyone and stick with your vision, my fear is the current player numbers will impress the suits and all of a sudden we have my little pony supermarket looter edition.

Relax the abmm, dont introduce pve unless you literally want a destiny 2 style story and raid system and lean in harder on what made this game special.

If you really want to make a pve mode, it atleast has to be so hard and scary, people still fear taking legendary weapons and gear, the frigate would be a current good example, genuine threat to life.

My two cents.

Im now going to pvp because i have no space in my inventory.

10 straight raids where people are just straight into PvP shoot on sight and when I don’t shoot back I’m told to go to PvE mode.

For me personally the ambiguity of whether or not I can/should trust another raider is gone, and it is taking the fun out of the game.

Would love to hear other people’s experiences so far!