r/windows • • 10d ago

Bug The small taskbar has two separate scaling bugs, and one look tells you which one you're seeing

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Build: 26200.9457 (25H2)

Since the smaller taskbar buttons came back, the complaints about them read like a long list: a battery icon smaller than the percentage next to it, an input indicator (ENG US) that looks oversized, a search box that doesn't match its neighbours, app icons that look soft. This came up in a thread on r/Windows11 last week, and the more symptoms people added, the clearer it got that it's two problems with two different causes, not five.

1. The text doesn't follow the bar

The small taskbar shrinks the icons and leaves the text alone. The battery percentage, the input indicator, the clock and the date, the search box label: all of them take their size from the system font metrics, which follow your display scaling and have no idea the bar got shorter. The icons come down, the text next to them stays where it was.

Wi-Fi, volume and battery belong here too, even though they look like icons. They're glyphs from an icon font (Segoe Fluent Icons), not bitmaps, so they render sharp at any size. When one of them looks off, it's off in size relative to its own text. It's never blurry.

2. App icons taken at the wrong size

App icons are the other path. They come from the .ico inside each program, which is a fixed set of bitmaps at specific sizes. At the normal bar height the standard small size fits exactly. The short bar wants a size somewhere in between, and when the app's icon doesn't include one, a larger image gets scaled down. That's the softness.

It also explains why some apps look crisp and others don't: the ones that ship more sizes in their .ico come out clean. The apps aren't doing anything wrong. The fix belongs to the shell, which could load the icon from the app's icon group at the size the bar needs (LoadIconWithScaleDown exists for exactly this) instead of resizing one it already has.

The quick test

Blurry: it's the icon one.

Sharp, but the wrong size next to its own text: it's the metrics one.

If you want to report it

The icon half is already in Feedback Hub. u/Tringi filed it over a year ago, so search for it and upvote it rather than filing a new one. Votes piled on one item count for more than the same votes spread over five.

The text half, as far as I know, has never been filed as a single item. If you report it, put every symptom you see inside that one report instead of opening one per icon.

Has anyone found a symptom that doesn't fit either of the two?

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u/Mindless_Welcome8177 10d ago

I noticed that the search box is bigger, which makes it look visually out of place and causes the app icons to shrink more than they should.

That makes me think the taskbar itself, the icons, and the text are actually separate elements, with the entire screen acting as the main container. In other words, the icons, text, and taskbar aren’t actually inside a dedicated taskbar container - maybe such a container doesn’t even exist.

That would explain why this happens and why it’s so difficult to make the taskbar properly responsive.

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u/Future-Plastic7826 9d ago

Good catch on the search box, and I think it might be a third thing, separate from the two in the post.

On the container: there is one, at least technically. The Windows 11 taskbar is a XAML tree inside explorer, and if you look at it the way Windhawk's taskbar styler does, the search box and the app buttons sit side by side in the same frame, with the tray in its own frame next to them. The problem isn't a missing container, it's that each child takes its size from somewhere else: the text from the font metrics, the app icons from the bitmaps in the .ico, the bar from the height setting. Nothing in the container reconciles them.

What you're describing would be space sharing, though, which is a layout problem rather than a scaling one. Easy to check: Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Search, switch it to "Search icon only" and see whether the app icons go back to their normal size. If they do, it's the search box. If they don't, it's the .ico path from the post.

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u/Mindless_Welcome8177 4d ago

Apparently, when Microsoft started moving parts of the Windows shell to web technologies and modern frameworks, they prioritized superficial visual appeal (Windows 11's modern design) over proper architecture.

Instead of building a truly flexible and responsive container from scratch, they ended up cobbling together elements with independent scaling rules. That's why trying to force components into smaller sizes causes these persistent visual inconsistencies, and why they're having such a hard time bringing back taskbar features that already existed in 1995.

So who's to blame in Microsoft's UX department? AI? Or some rookie designer?

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u/Future-Plastic7826 4d ago

One correction: the taskbar isn't web tech, it's XAML inside explorer. It was also rebuilt from scratch for Windows 11, and that's why features from the old one, like the small buttons or moving it to the top, have been coming back one at a time.

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u/Mindless_Welcome8177 4d ago

Thanks for clearing that up.

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u/proto-x-lol 5d ago

The fact it takes Microsoft 5 years to fix a Windows 11 taskbar for it's small size and the ability to use it on the left, right and top parts of the screen is embarrassing. This has been supported since Windows 95, which is now already 31 years ago.

Are modern developers just incompetent or are Microsoft employees doing nothing all day?

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u/Future-Plastic7826 2d ago

I don't think it's incompetence, it's the rewrite. The Windows 11 taskbar isn't the old one with a new skin: it was rebuilt from scratch in XAML, and the old features didn't come along for free. Small buttons, top and side positions, even dragging a file onto an app icon (missing at launch, back in 22H2) all have to be built again on the new code and tested against everything else that changed since.

That's why they keep coming back one at a time. The part I'd question is shipping the new taskbar before it could do what the old one did.

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u/potatomolehill 6d ago

Just install Windows 7 brother. Or even windows 10.. literally no one is gonna hack you