r/weaving • u/Galvy_01ITA • 14h ago
Help Help understanding weave(s?)
Exterior
Interior
Top left, the interior. Top right, the interactions (in green, shared weft; in red, weft that should be shared but that's already used). Bottom right, the exterior.
Hello, I'm not sure this is the right place, but I'll try to explain, sorry if it's not.
I've been struggling to understand the weaving technique/pattern used for my shirt, which has an extremely pleasant feel that I haven't been able to find anywhere and, after analyzing it to identify it, I realized I can't seem to understand how it was made in the first place.
The exterior pattern seems to be alternating 3-1 and 1-1, but it doesn't end up diagonal, so it's not twill. The interior seems to be 2-1-1-2 which, however, doesn't seem to be compatible with the exterior. When touching the fabric it doesn't seem to be two different pieces of cloth, so I don't think it's double. I thought perhaps it was two sets of weft and one warp (if that even is possible) and tried drafting that, but those patterns don't seem compatible even if they shared the warp. Therefore I'm stuck. Is there something I'm missing? Is this even worth asking?
I'll post pictures of the exterior and interior and of my (admittedly poor) attempt to draft the patterns and the failed interaction between them. Again, I'm sorry if this is not the right place.
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u/CardWitch 11h ago
I'm not actually convinced that looks like knit stitch - coming from a knitter. But it's possible its a type of machine knitting stitch I've never seen before.
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u/theclafinn 5h ago
Yes, I agree. I see clear weft threads and warp threads traveling in straight lines i.e. it’s woven. I don’t see any indications that it’s knit.
It’s a very fine weave and the floats seems to shift a little (similar to lace weaves, though I don’t think this is actually one) to sort of hide some of the other threads which makes it more difficult to reverse engineer.
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u/theclafinn 2h ago
The exterior pattern seems to be alternating 3-1 and 1-1
In my opinion it’s 5-3 for the parts that are whiter on the right side, and maybe 3-1 and 1-3 for the other part.
I’ll see if I have time to make a swatch once I get off work.
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u/Cibouch 13h ago
To me, it looks like two rows of plain weave, then one row of plain, but then the next row does not change the alternation so it's "double stacked", then repeat.
0-1-0-1-0-1 / 1-0-1-0-1-0 / 0-1-0-1-0-1 / 0-1-0-1-0-1 / 1-0-1-0-1-0 / 0-1-0-1-0-1 / 1-0-1-0-1-0 / 1-0-1-0-1-0 /
(0 being under and 1 over)
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u/Low_Silly 13h ago
This looks knit? I could be wrong…