r/troubledteens • • Sep 06 '26

Advocacy Matt Bevin’s Attorney Says He’ll Be a "Target of Abuse." TTI Survivors Know What Those Words Mean.

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The irony of this clip is difficult to miss.

Matt Bevin’s attorney argued that putting the former governor in jail would make him a “target of abuse.”

Think about those words in the context of the Troubled Teen Industry.

Children are sent into programs they did not choose. They cannot simply leave. They can be isolated, restrained, punished, humiliated, deprived, or abused, and when they try to tell someone what is happening, they may not be believed.

Those children are targets of abuse. And they have no choice.

Jonah was a child when he was sent away. He has publicly described what happened to him.

So I’m inviting TTI survivors to turn this clip on its head.

Go to my Instagram, TikTok or Facebook and find the link. Stitch it. Remix it. Duet it. Respond to it.

Start with:

“You want to talk about being a target of abuse? I was a child in the Troubled Teen Industry.”

Tell as much, or as little, as you want.

SAFETY: You do not have to name a program, identify anyone, describe your abuse, show your face, or share anything that could put you at risk. Protect your privacy and your wellbeing first. You can participate with text on a screen, a voiceover, or anonymously.

If you do participate and feel comfortable doing so, tag me so I can help amplify survivor voices. Hashtag Matt Bevin to amplify.

Let’s use this moment to remind people who the real targets of abuse have been: children who had no meaningful choice and often no one standing beside them.

For once, the child gets the microphone.

Take the power back. Bring the child’s voice.


r/troubledteens • • Sep 07 '26

Important Post Meet the Mods & Call for Applications

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Meet the Mods

As leaders of a vulnerable community, we feel that it is important to share some background about ourselves. We are sharing this information in the interest of transparency and building a community that feels trustworthy and safe for all TTI survivors. In addition to this post, we will be adding a page to the wiki so that it is easy to find in the future.

u/ItalianDragon is our current head moderator. He is not a TTI survivor, but joined our subreddit over a decade ago after learning about the industry at his university library. Once he realized that there were ways he could help our cause, he became a dedicated member and later moderator.

u/Time-Stomach-5576 is a survivor of four different TTI programs (Wediko, Gateway, Second Nature Duchesne, and Logan River Academy). He's been posting in this sub for over a decade and has considerable advocacy experience. He is dedicated to maintaining a safe space for survivors to speak freely and hopes to prevent the next generation from going through the same nightmare we did. He has volunteered to be a primary contact if you feel the need to talk to someone one-on-one, so feel free to message him privately.

u/positivepeercult_ is a survivor of Falcon Ridge Ranch, Outback Wilderness, Rancho Valmora, and Wellspring Academy of the Sierras. They can be found on TikTok/Instagram under the same username, and have a TTI survivor discord for others interested in activism. They stay up to date on bill proposals and current legislation regarding the TTI & can help connect survivors with efforts in their state, as well as opportunities to provide testimony as part of the legislative process against the TTI.

u/salymander was sent to Victory Christian Academy back in the 1980s. This was long before there was much organized resistance to the TTI. It was several decades before she learned of this sub, and of the various organizations that are pushing back on the TTI. Salymander is now the parent of a young adult, and works to make sure no more kids are sent away to be tormented by strangers. Salymander often deals with parents who come looking for advice.

u/Signal-Strain9810 is a survivor of Second Nature Wilderness Program and Spring Ridge Academy. She is a passionate advocate for survivors whose experiences are often left out of conversations about the TTI, including foster youth, children involved in the juvenile justice system, and international adoptees. She is also the mother of a 15 year-old and has firsthand experience parenting through challenging behavior.

Call for Mod Applications

As previously mentioned, we are looking for new moderators to help fill gaps in coverage and lighten the workload for the current team. We will review all applications and contact you if you seem like a good fit.

Criteria:

  • Must be a consistent and thoughtful contributor to the subreddit
  • Must be available most days for at least a few minutes to participate in urgent discussions
  • Must have strong emotional supports and coping skills. You will need to interact with triggering content frequently
  • Must be patient and able to stay calm, even in challenging or frustrating situations
  • Must have a strong understanding of the unique ways that survivors may interact due to their time in the TTI
  • Must be willing to join our encrypted group chat on Signal

To apply, please contact us via modmail (https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=r/troubledteens) and let us know why you would like to join the team.

We frequently have thin or no coverage during overnight hours (for North America). If you are a night owl or an international member who can help us out, you are especially encouraged to apply.

If you are selected as a moderator, you will receive training materials to help you get started.

Thank you in advance for bearing with us during this time of transition!

  • The Mod Team

r/troubledteens • • 7h ago

Discussion/Reflection Having trauma related to wilderness therapy camp is so isolating

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I wish I could find someone to talk to about it who could relate to it. I know that's selfish but I just wish I could have someone I could talk to face-to-face who understands the ins and outs of this kind of shit without me having to relive every pain of it. Like I wish I could just have a support group, like how they have ones for other traumas like addiction or violence. It's really hard to find any support or understanding in people when they can't really truly know what its like to have gone through similar.

Like of course I have friends and people who listen but it really feels like no one really *gets* it.

They can't see how much it hogs the space in my mind, or how much fear is still instilled so deep within me when expressing any amount of emotion at all.

It feels like the fact they made us be so numb to expressing ourselves that uniquely isolates me when trying to find any kind of support I can relate to.

Anyone else struggled with finding support this way? Is it something I should even realistically pursue trying to get? Any advice is appreciated, thank you.


r/troubledteens • • 7h ago

Question How do lawsuits work with the TTI?

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So I posted here before on my experience and how my life turned out I just gave a brief description. I was at a boys ranch called Shamrock Acres the a place in Utah called Sorenson's Ranch then a place in Montana called Spring Creek Lodge and finally in Mexico a place called Citrus Hills which grew into what I believe High Impact. To make this short I spent close to 3 years between these places in the late 90s as I got older I suffered from all sorts of mental health problems including scitzophrenia which led to the murder of my step mom. Is it now to late to sue for the abuse I endeared in these places which I believe was a direct result in the way my life turned out. Please any information would be appreciated, thank you


r/troubledteens • • 7h ago

Teenager Help They tried to force me to send my son to residential.

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Hello, I'm using a new account because I am worried about friends finding me. I desperately need help. My son asked to go back to PHP, he was having sever trouble at school. I suspect he has adhd and his therapist thinks he has PDA. I have never been able to find actually help for him, it's all been shit. This program was decent but he got angry and said he had an impulse to hurt another kid in the program so they discharged him today and told me I had to send him to residential care. They called the mobile team, I told them I was scared and refused to send him there as I have heard only horrible things.

However, I need help. Desperately. Are there any PHP programs in San Diego that help for neurodiverse kiddos and impulse/anger issues who go zero to one hundred?

He has been suspended from school twice and he was failing, I am not sure traditional school suits him, but I am so lost and desperately seeking help.

Does anyone have recommendations for me to actually help him? Mental health care is such a joke in this country.


r/troubledteens • • 9h ago

Discussion/Reflection San Marcos Treatment Center

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I spent 1990-1991 in SMTC.

I am trying to reconstruct what was real from fiction. Who were we.

My name is Chris and I was on Gateway and that intake unit and I think sunrise.

That place got dark. Before and after my time kids were killed and it was covered up, later to come out in Texas investigation and in a twist of irony a SMTC lawyers own son was killed in restraint. He sued and cached in. His son Brandon remain dead.

Does anyone remember Jean? Poolie? Scary? Brian, Danny (later executed by Texas).

Let us see if we can reconstruct our reality.


r/troubledteens • • 15h ago

Question Decent nonfiction books that detail/cover/discuss the TTI experience?

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Hi! I was wondering if there are any book recommendations that detail/cover/discuss TTI. I know there are videos and documentaries which I appreciate but I have a difficult time processing information aurally which is why I ask. Does anyone have any book recommendations that deal with TTI in a nonfictional way?


r/troubledteens • • 18h ago

News Nevada asks judge to dismiss lawsuit alleging abuse at juvenile facilities

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r/troubledteens • • 1d ago

Question Acadia data breach

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My son got a letter that Acadia had a data breach that exposed all, literally all, of his record. Name, address, DOB, diagnosis, tests, treatment, insurance, medical number.... Every. Thing. This is HIGHLY troubling. He is still a minor and dealt with their abuse (doctors sent him not me) and now this!

Did anyone else get this? Any recourse here? This could be a life or death thing if someone steals his identity.


r/troubledteens • • 1d ago

Discussion/Reflection Immediate Aftermath

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When I turned eighteen I hadn't had a math class in all of high school and middle school math was extremely inadequate, I got the highest in the math workbooks of anyone in my group at my middle school program but when I was eighteen I couldn't long divide, I didn't know how to ride a bus from point A to point B, or drive, I was so unused to talking at all that I kept losing my voice at my first job, I had almost no experience of normal socialization and wasn't even sure if saying hello was generally considered doing something wrong, when my roommate stole my money over and over I thought I must be counting wrong until my other roommate told me he had stolen from her and from someone else, I was so convinced that I was bad that when an aquaintance pulled down his pants and masturbated in front of me I was relieved because that meant I wasn't the bad one and didn't have to feel guilty or avoid interacting with him and so I could be less lonely, I delayed telling the doctor when my medication gave me hallucinations and made me randomly have electric shocks in my brain and collapse because I thought anyone official and educated wouldn't believe me about almost anything, I had panic attacks where I shook for multiple days, I had nightmares where I woke up screaming with tears running down my face and couldn't move, a boss forgot to give me my pay for the week and I assumed I was being punished for something and wasn't allowed to ask what,

I got abused over and over. I kept trying to go to school or educational programs but physical and mental disabilities and being behind and people hating me and me not knowing how to stand up for myself would combine so that for the most part, I wasn't able to progress and was just wasting money or picking up stalkers or picking up anger at community colleges and so on.

I was really into Little Shop Of Horrors and not quite as much into Come From Away and Matilda The Musical and Les Mis and I used to carry around Audrey II all of the time. Because it was a sense of being doomed from pretty much every direction around me but still dancing and singing and falling in love.

I also liked a lot of books that helped me take a perspective outside of normal human society, particularly the Collected Poems Of Mary Oliver and Hello Cruel World by Kate Bornstein.

I would try to frame everything as an adventure and I still have a lot of notes and pictures that I like from adventures I was having in very chaotic circumstances.

I haven't found someone who understands what I'm talking about exactly.


r/troubledteens • • 1d ago

Question Embark in San Martin

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I have a friend who was admitted to the Embark in San Martin, California a few months ago (obviously am not going to state her name for privacy reasons). I have seen some not so great reviews about it on this subreddit and other places as well. Is there any way to figure out how she’s actually doing when/if I will be able to call her? I know at most (if not all) of those places, they won’t let the patient state how they really feel about the program. From what I’ve heard from her family she’s reportedly doing great and having the time of her life but from the reviews I’ve seen (talking about how the children seem to be in terrible condition) it seems like that might be a prompted answer from the patient. Idk if this is the right place to ask this question, so I apologize if its not, but I just want to make sure that my friend is actually getting the support that she needs from the place.


r/troubledteens • • 1d ago

Discussion/Reflection October is DV awareness month. (TW for content)

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I entered my first abusive relationship just six months after the troubled teen industry. I was 17 when he hit me. I’m 36 now, and I’ve been in so many abusive relationships. I almost died as a result of DV right before I turned 30.

So, I wanted to take the time and platform I have as a mod now to talk about it because I have a feeling I’m not the only survivor here.

People have said things to me like: “you’ve been in so many abusive relationships, have you considered you’re the common denominator?”

Of course I have. In the TTI we’re brainwashed into this false sort of introspection that really means everything is always our fault.

But after decades of processing it all, I finally realized that people ask the wrong questions.

Instead, they should ask:
“Who taught you that it is a sign of love for someone to hurt you, to force you, to control you?”

“Where did you learn to normalize these behaviors and accept abuse as love?”

I think for many of us the answer is obvious.

It started for me with my mother. The programs she sent me to reinforced the way she raised me. I had encopresis before the TTI. My parents used to hold me down to force enemas in me “for my own good.”
I can see the logic there, a kid who hasn’t shit for weeks is damaging their body. But there had to be a better way. I remember one psychiatrist told them to give me Pepsi and bran muffins instead 😂

Going to the TTI, those restraints were better in comparison because at least there wasn’t an enema involved and I was fully clothed.

I went through a positive peer culture program first, where literally everything is framed as “care and concern.” Your friends rat you out because they care. The staff restrains you because they care. They deny you food because you’re getting fat and they care about your health.

I was still calling back into the Ranch when I was in my first abusive relationship at 16/17. I still thought they cared. I thought they’d be concerned. Within a year most of the staff who knew me had left.

There was a staff who I loved dearly and stayed in touch with when she left. In 2014, she lost her life to domestic violence and I swore I’d be more discerning but only six years later I almost died at my partner’s hands too.

These are just parts of my story, some of the parts I keep out of the bigger story because of the shame they evoke.

But this month, I want my fellow survivors to know it isn’t your fault. I went through so much therapy before and after the TTI and still ended up in abusive relationships. I kept wondering what was so broken about me that made me a magnet for this.

And then, I found this community. After nearly two decades I had just buried the trauma basically. At 18 I had tried to find a therapist to help me move past the TTI and there were none accessible who understood it. They told me to focus on boundaries. I got better, but still ended up in such horrible relationships… but finding this community woke me up.

I first became active here in 2024. I was engaged and we had just moved to a new city. I remember on moving day some DV shit happened and for once I actually fought back, something that goes against my programming for the past two decades. In less than a year, I was finally free.

I think the thing that finally set me free was understanding that I was brainwashed to accept abuse and violence, that I deserved abuse as much as I deserved love, as part of love in the TTI. Realizing that isn’t something that I really believe about myself freed me, in combination with making close connections with other survivors here who have had similar experiences.

I know this is long so if you read it all, thank you. If it resonates with you, feel feee to share your story if you’d like.

As always, I’m glad you’re still here.


r/troubledteens • • 2d ago

Discussion/Reflection Teen psych wards should be considered part of TTI, because they are equally as abusive and harmful

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The only real difference is the length of stay and the decision to go there in the first place. When I was there, a nurse threatened to pin me down and inject me because I didn’t understand how to take my meds. I watched adults swear at eleven year olds. They explicitly told us they were “preparing us for jail.” When one person acted up, everyone was sent back to their rooms for hours while kids screamed for their mothers. I have nightmares about the horror I went through, and I only stayed there for a week.

I do not say this to diminish the experience of anyone in this sub. I can’t even imagine how much worse pain you guys have experienced, and I wish I could hug you all. I say this to point out that teen mental health services are all just glorified torture chambers.


r/troubledteens • • 2d ago

TTI History I just found an old marketing video from a goon/transport company (USA Guides Inc). Posted on my youtube channel

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r/troubledteens • • 2d ago

News More girls ran away from Pathway of Madison County

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Pathway of Madison County, formerly known as Sequel Owens Cross Roads and Three Springs New Beginnings, was in the news again. More girls ran away. I’m afraid to know what horrible abuse happened to those girls before they ran away and I’m afraid to know what happened to the girls that were caught and brought back there. When is Alabama going to stop enabling abusive troubled teen industry programs?! When is the city of Owens Cross Roads going to shut down this abusive place?! Kids have been abused in that building off and on since at least the 1990’s. Enough is enough! SHUT THAT PLACE DOWN!!!!!


r/troubledteens • • 2d ago

Survivor Testimony Potential TTI experience

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Trigger Warning: Mentions of Bullying, Abuse, Neglect, Self Harm, Suicide

I would like to start this post off with saying it is not in my intentions to offend anyone by posting this. I am not trying to troll anyone or be disrespectful with this post. I am just here because I need clarification from people who would know better than I would. I am not exactly sure what tag to post this under exactly either, so I went with what I thought fit best with this post. I'm sorry if it is not correct. I want to know if my facility is considered part of the troubled teen industry because I am genuinely not sure. I don't want to be insensitive to people who are victims of the troubled teen industry by calling myself a victim if my facility doesn't fit in that category. I am not sure if it does because it was slightly different than most of the ones, I have heard about.

I was in a "residential" program for about 3 months, although it was technically a unit of a psychiatric health facility that housed adults and children 4 and older in my state short term with an average stay of 7-10 days for the short-term units. They took a unit of the facility and sectioned it off for adolescent females' long-term stay. We had a couple of rooms in the facility that were considered "classrooms", but we were not given computers our teachers gave us all our work on paper, and they were the only ones with computers. It was paid for by my insurance I believe, I'm not sure exactly I was around 12 when I went there. We did school for a majority of our days during the week and for the half hour or so of school we either went to the courtyard or gym for PE class where we would walk laps the entire time. We did "therapy" groups and individual/family therapy on weekends. The therapy groups were to "discuss unit issues" but what they really meant was call out specific things you see people doing and who it is doing it that you don't like. Essentially public humiliation and bullying each other while not being allowed to do anything but say something along the lines of "thank you I will be sure to fix that issue". Individual therapy was a chance for your therapist to do the same thing just one on one. Family therapy was for your therapist to discuss your progress towards your unrealistic treatment goals with your family. We had a seclusion room on the unit that you would get put in if you acted out or tried to fight another resident.

We also had phases in my programs and once you got to phase 3 you could leave the facility for a few hours once every few months, phase 4 had slightly more privileges you could leave for up to 72 hours every other month. I don't remember the full privileges you had on each phase but the first two weeks you were there you were on what they called Go phase to learn the rules and adjust to the unit. You had to fill out a form in order to phase up, and your treatment team would discuss it at you next meeting and you had a treatment team meeting once a month discussing your goals, discharge plans, behavior and other things. We also had a points system aligned with our treatment goals and a store where we could buy things it basically aligned with prison commissary in my opinion. The way the points system worked if I remember correctly was, we had to meet all our treatment goals on the sheet each week and we got a certain number of points for each goal, if we failed to meet any of treatment 3 times within a week then we got no points that week and could not go to the store. The store was how we got things such as hygiene items and snacks as well as books and other things, the points were how we purchased things from the store they gave us a "paycheck" based on how many points we received that week. The paycheck was fake cash that we turned in for things in the store which was a storage closet with cheap items from the dollar store, Walmart clearance aisle, or in bulk on Amazon. We also had certain days according to our assigned room number we were allowed to do laundry and phone calls. Each room number had two assigned days a week they were allowed to do laundry those days and one phone call for 10 minutes. There was absolutely no laundry on Sundays for any reason. We were allowed 5 changes of clothes. Some staff allowed you 7 if they favored you though. Visitation was allowed only on Sundays for 20 minutes and there was about a 2-hour window where people on your approved list could come. No visitors on holidays on our unit although the rest of the hospital (as they called it) could.

The food was edible if you had been there long enough and were hungry enough to eat it. The staff would threaten you with what was called "meal obs" if you didn't eat for long enough so you adjusted very quickly. Meal obs I've also heard called I's & O's in other places. They track everything that goes into and comes out of you on a sheet of paper and give it to the nurses at the end of every shift. The kids with eating disorders were treated horribly because the staff did not care if you couldn't eat foods for certain reasons or you were in eating disorder recovery, they still made you eat it like everyone else or you would be put on meal obs. They sometimes would even restrain and force feed residents as well as sedate them with medications like Haldol if they refused to eat (I did not find out that was what it was until recently). Residents were also forced to restrain fellow residents at times because of how understaffed the facility was to prevent them from self-harming. When we did so we were punished and told that it was "staff's job" and a "boundary issue" and when we sat back and watched it happen or told staff we were also punished told "not to interrupt" "do what we are told" "just behave" "why didn't we do something". We were given medication every day, multiple time a day by the nurses if we did not take it, we would be stripped of privileges and restrained and forced them until we voluntarily took them consistently for at least a week. If you were sick, you were not allowed to skip school unless you were contagious. If you refused school, you were restrained and thrown in seclusion.

There's more to it than just this if more detail is needed to determine if it was considered a TTI program or not, let me know. Again, I do not wish to be insensitive by posting this, I simply want to clarify because I hate to call myself a survivor of something I'm not because it's unfair to those who are.


r/troubledteens • • 2d ago

Discussion/Reflection Embark Behavioral Health San Martin

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We were all set to send our child to this facility and then started reading shocking reviews on Yelp and reddit and reconsidering. Does anyone have any positive experiences with this facility? Also any feedback on experiences as a trans youth or parent of trans youth. Thank you all!


r/troubledteens • • 3d ago

Discussion/Reflection Were you ever placed in the "quiet" room?

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Just thinking about all the days i was left to sit alone in a locked room with nothing but concrete and backsplashed walls with a drain in the middle of the floor. Because I was acting out and fighting staff.

Did you have this experience?


r/troubledteens • • 3d ago

Question Whatever happened to the man who killed William "Eddie" Lee?

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r/troubledteens • • 3d ago

Information Anasazi Foundation (AZ wilderness program) survivors: law firm is investigating abuse claims

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An Arizona law firm, Levy Konigsberg AZ, is investigating the Anasazi Foundation, the wilderness program based in the Mesa/Gilbert area.

Background: In 2002, Dr. Grigory Sorokin, a physician contracted to do intake physicals, was arrested for molesting teens in the program. He examined 150+ participants between December 2000 and December 2001. He pleaded guilty to charges involving 11 teenage boys and two adults and was sentenced to seven years in prison. Police said there were likely more victims who never came forward.

If this was you: Former participants may have a negligence claim against the program itself. Under Arizona law, childhood sexual abuse survivors generally have until age 30 to file. You don't need a criminal conviction to sue, and consultations do not cost anything.

Link: https://levykonigsbergaz.com/arizona-anasazi-foundation-wilderness-program-sexual-abuse-lawyers/

https://anasazi.org

Note: Sharing this for awareness, not as an endorsement of any firm. Talk to more than one attorney if you're considering a claim.


r/troubledteens • • 3d ago

Discussion/Reflection Youth Villages Knoxville 2022

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Hello, I visited the village in spring/summer of 2022 i think. I was twelve then and was placed in the kids girls cabin. Let me just say, that shit was crazy. I was probably the worst ive ever been when I was there. I was physically violent which I had never been in my entire life. I witness a cabin mate try and end her life twice in front of me. I was placed in a restraint for just yelling at someone. I was seeing fights every single day, hearing screaming all night. We got bed bugs three times over my 3 month stay. I wonder what ever happened to the people I survived that with. I went by Miles on the girls side in 2022.


r/troubledteens • • 3d ago

News Settlement in lawsuit against Oak Creek Youth Facility

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r/troubledteens • • 3d ago

TTI History Military Academies Advert (National Geographic - June 1972)

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r/troubledteens • • 4d ago

News How the system failed us: Former foster youth tell their stories

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r/troubledteens • • 4d ago

News The Real ‘Nickel Boys’: How Researchers Are Preserving Stories of Black Boys Who Died in State Custody

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