r/singularity • ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALSGC: ~2050 | :illuminati: • 9h ago

The Singularity is Near Unitree’s CEO says GPT-6 already works “very well” across multiple robots, with factory pilots underway—and GPT-7 could clear the remaining bottlenecks to mass deployment

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u/DoubleGG123 9h ago

Bitter lesson strikes again.

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u/brett_baty_is_him 8h ago

It’s kind of crazy how often the bitter lesson proves true. It feels very much like moores law in its a very early call in a fast progressing industry that people continuously doubt until it’s just claimed to be the ultimate truth.

I still think LLMs are not the single solution for AGI but they are certainly proving to be a big piece of the puzzle.

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u/ShAfTsWoLo 6h ago

general intelligence is not something special, it just emerge through scaling, we are lucky to live in such reality where the bitter lesson keeps being proven right

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALSGC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 8h ago

Yan LeCun punching the air right now

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u/chlebseby ASI 2030s 9h ago

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u/Szadbaverem69 9h ago

Wdym I'm unemployed since GPT-2 🥀

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u/Charming_Cucumber_15 9h ago

GPT 2 took all the jobs 💔

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u/chlebseby ASI 2030s 8h ago

bro is living off inheritance😭

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u/crusoe 8h ago

Opus and Fable can also control robot arms via just a webcam which is freaking wild for a model not trained in that way.

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u/nsshing 5h ago

AGI concept is real. It’s really trending towards one model/ system can do everything

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u/cultureicon 3h ago

Man, its going to be creepy as fuck interacting with robots embodied with frontier models. People aren't going to be able to handle it. Already indistinguishable from a human if that's how they set its system prompt.

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u/Dredgefort 9h ago

Hang on, they can't beat the laws of physics. I assume they don't literally mean they have access to the GPT -6 weights and put it in a robot, since they're a Chinese firm, which means they're doing everything over the air. Maybe they're using a local model and GPT6 for higher level planning? If they're using GPT6 for movement that sounds terrifying, I don't want a robot with physical responsibilities carry that much latency (we're probably talking seconds rather than milliseconds, and what if the Wifi starts to chug?)

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u/FateOfMuffins 8h ago

It's more like proof of concept. We've already even seen Haiku 5.5 do decently at robotic tasks and that thing is almost for sure smaller than GLM 5.3 Flash.

The point is that if just regular general LLMs can do this and the densing law of LLMs continues, then this will be solved in short order by LLMs rather than other robotic models.

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u/Stunning-Verb-9865 8h ago

Yes I have to imagine it’s calling other policies for navigation and manipulation, no way it’s outputting tokens that directly control movement. This is what the Stanford Homebody paper did that people here were freaking out about.

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u/IronPheasant 8h ago

Some domains are less time sensitive than others. For a janitor or stockboy, they don't have to tussle with moving objects so it's perfect.

As always trusting something to drive a car or perform abdominal surgery will be the final threshold for when humanity has a fork in it. I assume the NPU will be necessary, but as always that's a post AGI thing.

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u/Boring-Foundation708 7h ago

For first version, I think this is reasonable and rapid improvement after that.

People always find gaps in this and the gaps are closed rapidly within 1 or 2 years

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u/space_monster 4h ago

Hybrid - a local VLA model for locomotion etc. and remote over webRTC for reasoning

https://arxiv.org/html/2601.14921v1

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u/elmgarden 1h ago

GPT is for the slower, high-level reasonings, not motion control. The embodied ability refers to the model mentally simulating a more complex/unfamiliar physical scenario before acting on it.

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u/BreadwheatInc ▪️Avid AGI feeler 9h ago

Bullish on robot intelligence being solved late 2027. After that it's rounding the edges, efficiency and speed which the last two can arguably be easily solved with specialized hardware.

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALSGC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 9h ago

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALSGC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 9h ago

So I went and read the article and well it gets even better:

“AI is moving incredibly fast globally. Every one or two months, there’s a major update.”

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“After GPT-6 came out, it significantly changed how people in embodied AI think about what’s possible. We put GPT-6 on different robots and tested it across many tasks, and the results were very good.”

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“The inflection point may come relatively quickly — possibly within one or two years. GPT-7 next year could potentially break through the embodied-AI problem altogether.”

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“Unitree and other robotics companies are already running pilots in factories. For large-scale deployment, generalization and efficiency still need to improve, but those problems could be solved within the next few years.”

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“The biggest mistake I’ve made over the past decade-plus was not believing strongly enough in AI.”

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“Commercial-service robots may actually reach deployment faster than industrial robots.”

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“The threshold is when you can put a robot into roughly 80% of unfamiliar environments and, using only spoken or written instructions, it can successfully complete roughly 80% of the tasks.”

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u/AP_in_Indy 5h ago

I wonder if they've tried a large-scale classifier model such as Jev.

Use GPT for broader analysis. Perhaps image / visual analysis as well.

Jev for actions based on instructions from ChatGPT.

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u/getmeoutoftax 9h ago

Yeah, it’s over at this point. Jobs won’t be around for much longer.

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u/DukeRedWulf 5h ago

Assuming this is true, it's a Very Big Deal, and it will drastically narrow the time-window for an effective "General Strike for UBI"..

Basically, the clock's ticking loudly for those of us who have to work for a living..

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u/Work_Owl 7h ago

Does anyone know how these work? Latency is an issue and so does the llm create an instruction set? Surely you need lower latency approaches for reflexes?

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u/spreadlove5683 ▪️agi 2032. Predicted during mid 2025. 4h ago

assuming this is for setups that tolerate latency. ie not humanoids that have to balance constantly or fall over.

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u/reasonmonkey 7h ago

And distillation makes it possible to run a smaller but nearly equivalent model on smaller cheaper hardware.

2027 going to be the sauce.

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u/spreadlove5683 ▪️agi 2032. Predicted during mid 2025. 4h ago

how does this work w humanoids that need to balance and not fall over / need ultra low latency? and how is it fed input data / what's the format beside camera feeds?

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u/Novel-Injury3030 3h ago

what happens when china has millions of more humanoids than the west? tens of millions more? 

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u/samsteak 1h ago

Years of robotic ai research and you end up with a fn generalised model to utilize your hardware.

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u/Ormusn2o 1h ago

It makes no sense that the models are trained on datasets like that, which likely means those models actually might be showing up generalized intelligence (I'm not saying it's AGI), and it might explain why computer use on Astra just works on brand new programs that people made. It kind of looks like those models have learned to explore and reason about in the whatever environment they are in, without the need for it to be in the data set.

Chess moves are semi-famously removed from the datasets because of how badly they translate into real world performance, but I saw GothamChess pit some of the new models against each other, and I thought this era is over and now there is chess data in the models, but what if that is not true? What if the models are now just generalized enough to figure out chess in a way where they can just reason about the rules?

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u/KimLikeJ 27m ago

A factory pilot shows the model can do the task. It doesn't show what happens on the thousandth run, on a bad input, with no one watching. A CEO quote doesn't tell you anything about that.

What I'd want before believing "works very well" is the intervention rate per shift, what the robot is allowed to touch without a human approving, and what the log looks like when it gets something wrong. Has Unitree published any of that for these pilots, or is it all interview so far?

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u/redditissocoolyoyo 8h ago

To mass unemployment he means. Wtf are we doing this to ourselves?

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u/DukeRedWulf 5h ago

We're not doing it to ourselves, it's being done to us..

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u/The_Scout1255 adult agi 2026 ASI <2030, prev agi 2024, ai personhood 2025 est 8h ago

Yay its over at this point, capitalism can't last through automation, here comes post-scarcity, jobless utopia!