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Today officially marks 365 days without kratom, and I figured I'd share my experience here in case it helps somebody who's trying to quit.

I used kratom daily for over 10 years. At my highest, I was taking around 40 grams per day, spread throughout the day, eventually I got tired of being dependent on something just to feel normal.

I'd wanted to quit, but the thought of withdrawal was intimidating. I knew stopping abruptly from that amount probably wasn't going to be a pleasant experience, so I decided to taper instead.

I started using Chat GPT to help organize a taper schedule, and I tracked everything in an Excel spreadsheet. Every dose, every reduction, daily totals, and how I was feeling along the way.

August 10, 2025, I established a daily dose of 12 grams per day, using capsules (I put kratom powder in my coffee all day before that, 40g is an estimate) and from there I followed a much more structured taper, gradually reducing my intake rather than trying to rush through it.

It wasn't always easy. There were days when my energy was terrible, my muscles were cramping, and I generally felt like crap. Some reductions were more noticeable than others.

One thing that surprised me was how manageable the mental side of quitting was for me at the end. I expected cravings and a much bigger psychological struggle, but those never really materialized. The physical symptoms were definitely there, though.

On October 13, 2025, at 8:33 AM, I took my final 0.5g dose, I flushed the remaining capsules, and that was it.

Looking back, having a structured plan and being able to see my progress in Excel helped tremendously. Chat GPT was useful for organizing the taper, doing the calculations, keeping track of milestones, and giving me somewhere to bitch through the rough days.

Obviously, AI didn't do the quitting for me. 😂 But having those tools made the whole process feel much less overwhelming.

I'm not suggesting my exact taper would work for everyone. Everybody responds differently, and there's no universal timeline for withdrawal or recovery.

I just wanted to share that it is possible to get off this stuff, even after years of daily use.

A year ago, I was counting capsules and planning my next reduction.

Today, I don't have to think about any of that anymore.

365 days down, and absolutely no plans to go back.

If you have even 1 iota of addictive personality, don’t take it! Today, after 8-10 years, I had to go to Psychiatrist to get a plan to move forward. Thank God she’s going to help me. 2 helper meds (not anything addictive) and adjusting my anti-anxiety meds over the next few weeks. In 2 weeks she will give me Xanax but only 2 weeks at a time and the lowest dose. I’m good with that. I still cannot believe I let myself sink to these depths. I tried tapering and I give those that can do that a lot of credit, I tried and failed many times. I have 10 500 mg caps of OPMS leaf left in my stash. That’s it, as now it’s illegal here. Unbelievable! I hope this keeps even one person from starting this crap. Sickening!!!!. I’m glad it’s illegal now! Wtf kind of decent supplements are sold in smoke shops and gas stations? I feel so stupid.

My state banned and criminalized all Kratom extracts in May of this year. This includes 7OH and everything in between. I’m in my local smoke shop and I see a product that is being marketed as cats claw, brand name fuzzies. The worker tells me that it’s a healthy alternative to 70H. I have never heard of it before. Outer box shows these as the ingredients “Natural binders & fillers, cats claw extract, microcrystalline cellulose, magnesium stearate, silica oxide, di-calcium phosphate, food grade colorant”

So I’m curious because none of those ingredients sound dangerous and I have no idea how this could be considered an “alternative”. None of those ingredients have anything to do with opioid receptors. So I take one of the individual packets out of the box, turn it around and to my surprise it listed these as additional ingredients:

7-Hydroxymitragynine - 0.008 ppm
9-Hydroxycorynantheidine - 0.007 ppm
10-Hydroxycorynantheidine - 0.007 ppm
Mitragynine pseudoindoxyl - 0.235 ppm
7-Acetoxymitragynine* - 0.186 ppm
MGM-15* - 0.186 ppm
MGM-16* - 0.186 pm
Speciogynine - 0.007 ppm
Speciociliatine - 0.004 ppm

Like, what in the actual fuck!

I've been posting here for some time and some of you might recall.

I've started taper in mid September with a plan to reduce intake to 0 after 43 days. First 45g down to 20g (day 1) and then 5g decrements every week. It's been more than 20 days and I'm not at 5gpd. It's unbearable, I've already posted about it and a lot of people said take it slow. I get that but I have travel plans, hence the reason for "quicker than comfortable" taper plus I'm so fatigued from opioids after 4 years that I no longer want to have anything to do with them.

Therefore, I decided to flush remaining kratom down the toilet and shredded away my taper plan along with kratom bags. Took me several flushes to get rid of all of that powder. Tomorrow is first day of CT and I'm going to take several sick days at work.

I'm tired of constant neverending acutes and severe lack of motivation. Taper has helped me a lot to detach myself from the addiction, but I no longer want to do it. I understand I'll have PAWS likely at least 2 months after this.

One other factor that got me very mad today, hence this decision, is that I desperately keep waiting for that next allowed taper dose not to feel miserable. Then, when I take it I feel normal, not even high, just normal, and start making grand plans about things I'm going to do over next 7 days knowing that I'm capable of making these plans only because I just took a dose.

After 4 years of opioids (first tramadol and then kratom), I'm sick and tired of the cost they brought to every aspect of my life. I'm finally ready to close this chapter. It caused severe chronic pain, mental health issues and plethora of other problems. No more.

I apologise for the rant. I'll likely lose motivation to post here for a while, but I'll follow up after I recover from acutes, as many other do. I'm now very motivated to post this due to f****ng dose I took several hours ago.

Good luck to all of you and hope you get rid of this addiction as well!

I’m a 25 year old male. I started kratom when I was 20. Stupid decisions as a kid made lasting struggles with addiction. I’m currently on day 4 no kratom. And i haven’t had crazy nightmare withdrawal symptoms. My WD symptoms are as follows: minor RLS, a slight reduction in sleep, light depression, a fluttery feeling stomach, that’s about it. I just want to vent, and share my personal experience with tapering and what worked for me.
For most of my kratom life, I took about 30-40g of powder that I mixed in a hydroflask with water and sipped on it throughout the day, daily. I also frequently used extracts when I had the extra cash and just wanted to feel less. Then the synthetic stuff came out, and about a year ago I got hooked on the zana chill bottles. Terrible stuff. The withdrawal from that stuff sucks, and I empathize with anyone on the crazy 7oh stuff because it’s literal torture garbage. I used regular leaf to get off the 7oh/ pseudo stuff in zana chill. It was uncomfortable but manageable. Then, I started my taper. My taper lasted about 2 months. For me personally, I think a leaf taper shouldn’t be any longer than 2 months. Trying to keep up with a taper for any longer just feels like you’re making no progress, and in my past taper attempts, around the 2 month mark is when I start thinking about ditching my taper. It’s so easy to just “fuck it” and take a dose that will make you feel good, and you’re back to square one.
For my taper, I started by weighing my doses. Finding my baseline, and planning from there. There’s a curve to tapering, when you’re at doses like 40 grams per day, making drastic reductions is easier. In my taper, going from 40g to about 15g daily within the span of a couple weeks had little withdrawal symptoms, and I remained functional at work. After that, making reductions brought withdrawal symptoms, and when they did, I’d pause my taper at that dose to give my body a few days to stabilize. I’d usually try to reduce a gram every other day, but followed it loosely according to my body. For example, when I got to 10g, I had to pause for a whole week because I felt very sluggish and irritable, could barely get through the work day. Once I got to 5g a day, I decided to end my taper and CT the rest. And I’m glad I did, because other than feeling a little weird, I’m kratom free now. I know that I’m not free yet, but I feel like I negated most of the terrible WD symptoms by listening to my body, and pushing forward when I was confident I could. Also, to negate insomnia, I’d have most of my daily taper dose right before I sleep.
People talk a lot about supplements too, but the ones that actually helped and aren’t placebo in my opinion:
Liposomal vitamin c dosed throughout the day
Magnesium glycinate for sleep and relaxation
Melatonin for sleep

The ones that might be placebo? I’m not sure that these have helped but in my mind they did:
Agmatine sulfate
L- theanine
Nootropics depot black seed oil

I know everyone is different, I’m just excited to be clean from the most terrible substance I’ve been apart of. If anyone needs to chat, or have any questions I’d love to answer.

Has anyone had any experience with Reset 2.0? Trying to quit and had a friend who tried the original and it helped him a ton. Does anyone know about this new version? Kind of scared to try it.

Been taking about 15 capsules a day for two years now after originally starting on just 4 capsules a day. I’ve been having really bad anxiety over the last year, especially when trying to fall asleep. Like straight up panic attacks. I’m prone to anxiety, but im almost certain the kratom has been the real trigger of the worst of the panic effects.

Anyway, the point is, im tapering off kratom and plan to quit it. I’m down to 3.5g per day which I’ve done for three days now. I didn’t get restless or insomnia the first night, but last night was crazy bad. Just felt a physical restlessness that was impossible to overcome. Finally took .25mg of klonopin just to help me sleep.

I’m still feeling restless now during the day. Hoping these effects abate soon because it’s pretty uncomfortable. And this is only from dropping from around 8 grams to 3.5 grams per day.

Plan to run at 3.5g for another week, then down to 2 grams, then down to zero.

I liked kratom a lot. But the anxiety that it started to cause me was unbearable and I need to be done with it.

1. ive been addicted to potent extracts since february. i quit for 8 days, about 60 ish days ago. i relapsed, and now its time to quit again. but i need you guys to hold me accountable because otherwise theres alot larger of a chance that i let my brain get to me for the 100th time. plz guys, lets get it kicked

just wanted to check in. i tapered from 30gpd to 2 gpd over 2 months. it was tough. i relapsed last week on 7OH. since then my taper has gotten messed up, even at 2 gpd im feeling like shit. so i said fuck it, i’m sick of this merry go round. that gave me the impetus to say i’m ready to jump come what may.

i am sure it will be mostly a mental game, i don’t expect to have much body feels at this level… im just happy to deal with it

i am giving myself permission to play video games, watch movies, sleep in and eat junk food for a week while i even out on this stuff. heading straight to NA.

I normally do 4-5 extracts daily...today is day one and my goodness does it feel like its dragging.. i am not looking forward to going to bed tonight as i know my restless legs will be terrible...i want to get this over with...my job is somewhat easy besides customer service.. i have 2 kiddos and it breaks me knowing im so weak to this stuff and trying to get better sounds so hard...this stuff made me feel like i could handle everything that much better...now I'm almost -$300 on my debit card, credit card is maxed out.. 5k...i want to know there's hope and turning around from this..

I know everyone is different and all that jazz but I'm just trying to get some info. I am coming up on 48 hours cold turkey from ~20GPD. I took Xanax and Gabapentin both nights because the RLS was insane. But during the day, I'm mildly fatigued and a little achy. I've been thinking that maybe I'll get by without much of a flu. HOWEVER, I read some posts from years ago and a lot of people are saying that their symptoms started after 4 or 5 days, and for some after 10 days! I know it's a long road, but would love everyone's symptom timelines (like what they felt when) so I can prepare myself for potentially feeling much worse in the coming days. Thanks! I have off work for a week so I was really hoping to get the worst of it done this week. I may have been really naive.

Its intense the highs and the lows when will it go away i dont like it

Ran out of the tablets that I have been taking for 4 months yesterday. Many different brands, but all the same horseshit that my dumbass couldn’t have any self control over. Took 1000mg gummy last night to try and help with whatever sleep problems I may have had, and genuinely for the first time in my life, an edible didn’t do JACK SHIT for my sleep‼️Actually crazy, I just laid in bed for 8 hours straight hoping to sleep, but nothing, not even a nod off. Does it stay like this for long? The edibles seem to be helping with every other withdrawal symptom, but I can’t keep sleeping like this.

Hi guys, been using 70gpd for the last 9 months. 2years in total before I took around 15-20gpd. Every 4 hours around 12ish gram so 6 times a day. Also had been taking a half gram Ketamin per day for 4months daily and smoking weed daily and 2-3 times per week a gram cocaine. I stopped everything except Kratom 6 weeks ago. Cause I just was/are miserable most of the time. I always wake up around 4 o clock with anxiety. Then take Kratom and going back to sleep.

I found another protocol and I’m not sure if I maybe take too much or too less Liposomal vitamin c. Speaking of bowel tolerance.
I m pretty gasy, but I didn’t had completely loose stool yet.

i started 3 days ago tapering down to 40gpd : 4 times 10g and drinking every 2-3 hours a half Liter water sometimes with electrolytes.

Day 1:
Daytime:
B-komplex 1x
300mg Calcium with D3, K1 & K2
after waking up

2000mg Liposomal every 2h

Turmeric with pepperin 2x a day , 30 mins before my Kratom dose

1000mg Black seed oil 2x, when my Kratom started to kick in

2x a day 4g of l-arginine for better absorption of the vitamin c

Before “sleep“:

200mg magnesium biglycinate

200mg l-theanin

0,5 - 1mg melatonin

10 drops of Mulungu Extrakt

Day 2: The same except
2000-3000mg Lipo Vitamin C every 2h

Day 3:the same except
30gpd Kratom: 3x 10g
5000-7500mg Lipo every 2-3h

So far i don’t feel any wd symptoms.

Just took my last dose going CT now. I have already prepared myself with some red tiger balm for rls.

Day 4-7: I’ll be updating

I have also some L-tryptophan and L-Tyrosine, NAC and Tongkat Ali. I wanted to start taking it from tomorrow on. I’m not sure if this is a good idea. I tried L-Tyrosine a couple days before, gave me a massive boost first but then I crashed emotionally. Not sure if it came from it.
Should I better wait until acute withdrawls symptoms are over? And should I take more Lipo until I have liquid poo and then go down by half gram?

Anyone have experience with Tongkat Ali with PAWS?
My idea is it will hopefully help me with testosterone(40years old). My libido is almost non existent anymore.

Hey everyone.

7 days free of Kratom I’m a 23 year old male.

I almost broke my streak today and drove to one of my usual spots today and bought Kratom. I sat there a minute with the club 13 seltzer can and thought, is this worth it?

My sun roof is never ever open, for whatever reason this time i had it open. I looked up and right above me i saw a giant billboard with a nutcracker on it advertising a play in December. Next to it, it said 4-23. The same date of my dad’s birthday who passed away some years ago. Not to also mention that the nutcracker had the same kind of eyes that follow you when you move. I looked back down in front of me and these hanging lights in front of the gas station flickered out. I said out loud- dad if this is you, flicker them again and I will throw this away. I waited a minute and sure enough they flickered.

I threw the kratom away.

But again, the craving for the best of me.

As I was driving home, I felt the sense of urgency and my OCD flood over me again- I stopped at my other spot near my house to buy it again. (I know, I can’t believe it either). I walked into the gas station and brought the new can to the cashier and he flipped it toward him. He realised it was Kratom and pulled out another can and smiled and offered to it to me for free. I instantly felt something in my gut. I took it, and thought about this-

I have just seen what the devil looks like. A smiling face offering me more of something that I am trying to quit. I sat near the dumpster at my house for another 2 minutes and read the label- pure 7OH in the different can. He wanted to get me even more hooked. I tossed both of them in the dumpster and I started screaming in my car out loud that I will no longer allow the devil to influence me with this BULLSHIT. I am angry now. Not at myself, I’m angry at the devil.

God is watching over all of us, pray to him and thank him for these experiences!

Remember this line from one of my favorite songs-

Smiling faces by the undisputed truth.

“Smiling faces sometimes
Pretend to be your friend
Smiling faces show no traces
Of the evil that lurks within”

Think about that next time your cashier hands you your kratom.

Been on and off the stuff for a year. Go 3 months off a month heavy use etc. But this withdrawel while anxiety was intense. My rls dropped alot and i slept about 7 hrs. I feel 80% today

Hello friends. As the title states, I'm down to 3g/day of earth kratom caps. I would like your opinions on how c/t will be from here? Should I taper down to 2g for a few weeks first? Any feedback is welcomed and helpful.

In around 3 days off kratom and mostly doing fine now. This nagging muscle ache in my back is so intolerable I can barely do anything. Tried Advil/tylenol, I’ve been having vitamin c and magnesium but I just can’t get anything to touch this back pain. Any suggestions?

I was in here maybe 8 years ago quitting with a particularly brutal withdrawal, ended up back on it this last year thinking of course I could control myself..spoiler alert I could not lol. Anyways I was at the most 22gpd I did a rapid taper down to 15gpd and then I decided I was tired of it, I had started having some autonomic dysregulation (sweating, high blood pressure) that I suspect might have something to do with kratom but there’s really only one way to find out. Not trying to die because of this crap and in all honesty I didn’t even really enjoy it.

So far it’s not too bad of course I’m a little uncomfortable and having some diarrhea and cold chills, but overall it’s not bad. I slept through most of the day today tbh, not the most restful sleep but I def needed it. I went ahead and ordered myself some supplements to help (vit c, black seed, mag gycinate and l theanine) idk if I’ll end up needing them but why not. Overall not nearly as brutal as last time maybe because the physical effects I was experiencing while on it this time were really nasty and uncomfortable and at least I’m free of those at the moment.

I started tapering down 2 months ago, then finally gave it up 5 days ago. I had always bought more than I needed and would hide it on myself in case they ever banned it. Well as luck would have it, they ended up banning it a week after I decided to taper down. Tonight is trash night and I went through my house to gather up all the bags of Kratom to finally get rid of. I'm not gonna lie, the temptation is there, but I don't ever want to go back. I can't believe I wasted so much money, time, and life on this shit.

Since stopping, it's been tough but not as bad as I expected. I previously estimated that I was using 25gpd, but since I used tablespoons and not a scale, I wasn't sure. I went through my bank statements and realized I was using 1.25 kilos a month, which is more like 40gpd. I tapered down until I got to around 3gpd and jumped.

Positive things that I've experienced since quitting:

-swelling in my foot is almost non-existent. Had no idea Kratom was the culprit but it's been years and no change until now.

-I'm sleeping well for the first time in years. The past 4 nights in a row I've slept 6-6.5 hours, which hasn't happened in at least 3 years. I would average maybe 3-4 at a time on a good night.

-I actually have energy. I haven't needed as many naps.

-I'm not dehydrated af.

-my anxiety is WAY better. If I had known Kratom was contributing to this, I would have quit way long ago.

-I'm starting to feel like myself again. I think Kratom was dulling my spirit, truly. I've felt the creative push that I haven't had in forever.

-I have hope for the future. Something I haven't had in a very long time.

I feel like a badass. You, too, are a badass. Do the thing! <3

The important point: WHY WHY WHY does it feel like I’ll never (without kratom) have fun working out again, have a good chat with my friends while drinking, feel positive and happy while relaxing again if I never take kratom again?

If you’ve made it past the shitty hump or if you’ve beat it, can you give me some thoughts?

This seems to be my worst issue, the restless legs and body weakness I can fight with fitness and supplements. But I just can’t get past the negative thoughts and this one ever present thought of “just a little longer and you can take some” or “you’ve done this far, you never got this far before! Reward yourself”

It’s the worst part for me and I think I understand that it’s guaranteed that lofe will feel cleaner and better after I succeed and kick this; but why does it seem like it won’t?

Life just doesn’t seem like it won’t be worth it or fun if I fully kick this stuff. I can’t beat my mind. I’m rambling sorry but it just feels like I’ll forever be “high on kratom or sad and depressed”

Just when I feel like I’m out of the woods, I find myself regressing.

I bought some Kratom today with full intention of taking it but I just tucked it away in my drawer. I’ve been trying to research to see if it would set me back that far… if it’s worth it… and I know a lot of you may relate.

I know it’s not worth it.

I’m going to try and stay strong.

Update: I never took it and I’m not going to. You all are amazing. Thank you for the support; I really needed it.

The yo-yo quitting is real. I've quit so many times I've lost count. I hate it. The one blocker I have is always at the 1-2 month mark, when all the physical wd symptoms have subsided, but the PAWS makes me rationalize going back.

It's always the same. I feel super depressed, and I convince myself this is my natural baseline. So then I think "what's the point of being sober if it just feels like shit" and end up hopping back. Only to regret it about 2 weeks in. Rinse and repeat.

Any tips on how to push past the PAWS?