r/onejob • • 4d ago

Pretty sure there are instruments to measure these sorts of slopes, pitches, grades what have you

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u/Accurate_Koala_4698 4d ago

I think they're built with correct grade but there's a different engineering problem. The ground will compact while a drainpipe won't so you get the cobbles shifting. as you can see in the picture, because the sublayer either got washed out, or wasn't compacted enough or something

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u/mon_key_house 4d ago

Yep, likely worked the first few rains / months / years and never since again.

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u/bobspuds 3d ago

There's a pretty obvious flaw in the way its done that not many people pick up on.

The storm drain bottom is a concrete box, its typically set in concrete too - the drain is the only part that has what you could call a foundation, everything else will settle and sink, while it will tend to stay pretty much where it was set.

The right hardcore/background and proper compacting of the grades will almost completely stop it from happening, but eventually it will become an issue.

I've rectified these issues a number of times, it tends to be after 50+ years that these issues might arise.

The actual big problems come when manholes and chambers settle differently - a system that was perfect might flow backwards if the difference is enough to effect the heights

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u/bionicjoe 4d ago

Grate is setting on a concrete culvert which is a wide base which setting on deep soil.
The backfill soil around the culvert settles, but the culvert itself doesn't.
So you get this pic.

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u/MagmaTroop 4d ago

He just said allat bro settle down

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u/DunkeyColdMedina 1d ago

It's not that much of a grade, or water either. Look at the curb. Works fine.

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u/lazyfacejerk 4d ago

It's that the catch basin is set on a base of compacted soil and stays where it should. Everything around it wasn't compacted during construction and settles some. Then after a few years it looks like this.

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u/GoatCovfefe 4d ago

So the drain will be reinforced stronger than the rest of the road/sidewalk (because its a hole) which means it wont settle as quickly as the surrounding area causing issues like this.

Of course there's easy solutions to the problem like offsetting the grade to compensate, but cities typically go woth the lowest bidder so you get what you pay for.

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u/Jacktheforkie 4d ago

More likely the ground sunk but the pipe was sturdier

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u/MisterEd_ak 4d ago

Yep, the surrounding paving settled but there is a concrete soakwell under the drain. which stops it from settling.

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u/Jacktheforkie 3d ago

Common issue here in the uk

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u/Unindoctrinated 4d ago

Every floor drain in my house is like that. Water will flow out my front door before reaching the height of any of them.

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u/nephelodusa 3d ago

Grade: F

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u/MrsTheBo 2d ago

I looked at this for way too long wondering why part of the photo was blurry

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u/AndrewDaPro 2d ago

You mean light refraction?

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u/MrsTheBo 2d ago

I just couldn’t see the water as water - my little brain couldn’t make sense of it, lol

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u/scottzxc 4d ago

That's the storm overflow inlet

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u/MagmaTroop 4d ago

Well done Sherlock

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u/Embarrassed_West_195 4d ago

My garage floor is like this.

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u/gent861 4d ago

They just added delay so the system wont get overflown. /s

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u/Slosher99 4d ago

My last landlord had his friend retile the shower and he installed a drain like this. Their solution was to pour bleach in there to keep the mildew from the water down...

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u/teddbe 3d ago

It’s not thirsty anymore

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u/WigglyChurro20 3d ago

They had one job:D

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u/brushfuse 3d ago

That would be considered good work in the UK. Thumbs up!

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u/Accomplished_Emu_658 3d ago

That wasn’t built that way intentionally. The walk way sunk

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u/KeegsBruH413 3d ago

This is a repost from the days I first started browsing reddit

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u/ebrum2010 3d ago

Sometimes you want the parking lot to flood to a very specific depth.

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u/chitzk0i 3d ago

You get less callbacks for clogged drains.

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u/wenoc 3d ago

What would firing them help

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u/No-Zookeepergame9761 3d ago

An artists idea of the Netherlands

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u/OkRelation7259 3d ago

Nobody is getting fired. They will be promoted out of the position and make similar mistakes at a higher level

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u/Direct_Concept8302 3d ago

This sort of thing honestly isn’t completely avoidable. Even if they compacted the soil around it depending on where the water goes it can end up washing dirt out from under the road. That’s why you end up with sinkholes, the water at some point forms an underground stream and just eats away at the soil under the road.
Water is called a universal solvent for a reason.

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u/Jealous_Club_298 3d ago

Yeah, leveling devices.

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u/JB2315 3d ago

P poor engineering using minimum grade requirements is what caused this mess.

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u/Foreign_Implement897 2d ago

I have two of them factory installed in my skull.

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u/BicuriousSissy32USA 1d ago

2026? That's a promotion, not getting fired.

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u/rageofa1000suns 1d ago

at least it won't need cleaning or unblocking

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u/Sirosim_Celojuma 1d ago

What's probably happening is the drain has a better foundation than the surrounding pavers. The pavers got compacted with use but the drain has a massive concrete foundation, so they settle at different rates.

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u/megared17 3d ago

It's intentional, to keep the sticks and leaves and other junk from clogging the grate. It still drains water that rises above the designated level. It's not intended to drain the area completely dry, it's intended for overflow.

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u/Torqyboi 4d ago

That looks like a third world country. The fact that there's one at all is an achievement.