r/onejob • u/ayedunno013 • 19d ago
They didn’t think about the unwieldy beds & carts pushed through in a hurry when they installed glass touchscreen elevator controls in the hospital. They’re all like this now. +No floor controls inside the cars.
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u/ayedunno013 19d ago
These elevators connect the basement to the ER to the OR floors to the ICU floors and aren’t accessible to guests. I should also mention that this building is brand new, and you can see the state of the paint—it’s like that everywhere. The flooring in the elevators and around doors is also chipping and coming up already. Whoever chose materials and resources for this project had one job.
The entire building is just poorly designed. The inpatient MRI department is in the ER, but the inpatient CT and X-ray departments are not. There’s only one physical X-ray room shared between the ER and 500 inpatient beds. The brand new ER doesn’t have the capacity for its demand, and thus more of the patients get hallway beds than rooms, and the hallways are barely wide enough to pass with another stretcher. Whoever designed this place has maybe never worked in a hospital ever, or at least never considered radiology. Almost everything else about this hospital is great besides the physical building. I originally posted this in r/crappydesign, but it got taken down bc it wasn’t considered crappy design. I personally do believe it is crappy design lol. This whole place is crappy design.
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u/TiramisuItUp 19d ago
At the last hospital I worked at it was a running joke how little they consulted actual healthcare workers when designing the building. The doors, equipment storage, room locations, PPE container design, and many many tiny things that made our jobs so much harder. Infuriating honestly. It’s so simple to just have a couple healthcare workers consultants on projects instead of just an approval from some person who has never worked the floor in their life and then pay for it down the line- in safety issues and replacements needed sooner than anticipated.
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u/FluffyCollection4925 18d ago
Elevator consultant for THAT company here. There are several dozen reasons we have this design. Many of which you will not agree with. But I will let you know right now. The main issue with that item is your ADA compliance. ADA compliance restricts how high we can lift that off the ground. Because of that you can run into it. A lot of rules and laws conflict with designs.
Also, there are emergency floor controls inside of the elevator. You just do not see them.
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u/freelibrarian 18d ago
I think they run into it more because it is angled and sticks out, not because of the height it is placed at.
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u/ayedunno013 18d ago
Yeah, I’m sure there are plenty of reasons why they went with this system, as the floor system admittedly hasn’t failed me yet, and these elevators are the fastest and more reliable in the hospital. This specific design choice for the panel just boggles my mind. You have to put it low, which is a given and should be in every workplace. Some employees here have dwarfism or wheelchair users who would struggle with taller panels. The secondary ones that don’t stick out aren’t broken, but these middle, more vulnerable ones are cracked on every floor.
Also it’s good to know that there ARE floor controls in the elevators. I don’t mean to insult your work, it’s just that whoever on the admin side was signing off on this choice for the trauma elevators didn’t consider what the trauma elevators get used for.
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u/Present-Question-820 19d ago
This Touchscreen bullshit has to end somewhere... What in earth is so bad about a good button to press, that i dont understand ... sikh ....
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u/FeelMyBoars 18d ago
They have to put the touchscreens low or people in wheelchairs can't see them. Because of this, tall people need to remember that they need to press half an inch below the button because it's such a bad angle and it has thick plexiglass protecting it. Also, putting it low means you need to tilt it, which means it sticks out, which means it gets hit by things like in the picture.
A bank of 6 buttons has to cost a fraction of the screen setup. The efficiency gain when you have more than ~20 stories is worth it, but not with 6. If you add the confusion factor, this is probably less efficient time-wise. Most of the people there are visiting and not used to it.
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u/ennuithereyet 18d ago
The only thing it accomplishes is making it either completely inaccessible or significantly less accessible to blind and visually impaired people (they might have some kind of option to make it accessible, but it's not going to be easier than a button with braille). And for people with motor difficulties, it can be a lot easier to press a button (which you can do with your elbow or the side of your hand or knuckle) rather than a touch screen.
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u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox 19d ago
It almost looks like someone punched the wall above it
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u/chitzk0i 19d ago
Nah, just peeling paint.
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u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox 19d ago
Yeah but it's got a funny shape
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u/ayedunno013 19d ago
Weirdly, that peeling spot is there in the same spot on every single floor. I think they just did a poor job of moving the sign or something.
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u/risky__cake 19d ago
What a great fucking example of "if it sunny broke, don't fix it". Elevators have been fine for generations, they just haaaaad to get fancy with it.
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u/Sch1371 18d ago
It’s called Destination Dispatch. Pretty much everyone in the trade hates it, but it does have its place in high rise buildings.
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u/ayedunno013 18d ago
The destination dispatch itself isn’t really all that bad, it just that the choice of the panels is so poor for this location. Plus this building only has 5 floors.
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u/Lordgandalf 18d ago
Here in the Netherlands every elevator only has a call button on the outside and floors in the car. I get why they do this easier for them to make. No need to make the car communicate with the controller and stuff so yeah easier cabling but still.
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u/Revenga8 18d ago
Not just Netherlands. This is how normal elevators are like pretty much everywhere. The only place this design might make sense is a building like the burj khalifa with a larger number of floors. Here with only 6 floors and the use environment, the application is just plain wrong.
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u/Nearby_Potato4001 18d ago
This is what happens when someone not from an industry designs things for an industry without asking people from that industry.
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u/freelibrarian 18d ago
Cries in librarian who works at a library with ultra modern, sleek study rooms that are not soundproof.
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u/M0DStrawberry 18d ago
I had to deal with these when I was a delivery driver, I had three deliveries in one building. The numbers on the pad always changed and nothing was clear as to where i was going. I spent a good 20-30 minutes inside that building lost
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u/Elohims-sixth-wife 18d ago
Who sees the dents in the wall and thinks, “Hmmm this is a great place to install a device?”
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u/MacForker 14d ago
Easy repair solution would be to recess those controls into a box on the wall. It'd require the elevator company to make modifications but in the long run would be cheaper than having to have them come out twice a year or more and repair that control panel.
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u/PaccNyc 13d ago
Building are installing these for safety reasons. Ensuring people can’t just walk in and go to whatever floor they want. While the example here can be touched, they will eventually update the software so that your badge or QR code will unlock it and tell the elevator what floor to bring you to. When that guy walked into the NfL offices on 5th ave last year and went up to the floor he wanted, it made security across NyC begin modernizing their access to Port systems like this.
Having knuckleheads with carts running into everything is why there’s a maintenance contract in place.
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u/Unusual-South4049 9d ago
*takes a good sip of tea* well someones gonna die in there until they fix it then arent they?
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u/who_cares345 19d ago
Wait, so you have to select the floor outside the car?