r/oil • u/madadekinai • 3d ago
Discussion I can not believe how absurd this situation is, we literally are our own worst enemy. We are now buying oil from Russia, except one minor detail, Russia has no diesel.
Russia is providing Iran with military intelligence, satellite targeting data, drone technology, and financial backing. So now we're supporting our literal enemy through an adversary that we made legislation not to.
https://mei.edu/policymemo/russias-wartime-support-for-iran/
U.S. lifts sanctions on sale of Russian diesel in global markets until April 7 next year
LMFAO, conservatives were extremely against this before saying we should not support Russia in any way, even buying their oil, yet, watch and see them fully support this now that Trump wants this. They were furious we have relieved sanctions against Russia, now we're buying their fuel.
Lindsey Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026
Fox News extensively tracked the legislative response to Russia's oil revenues, which culminated in the passage of the Fox News Senate Report on the Lindsey Graham Act.
"Graham's final mission advances as Senate moves to crush Putin's war machine with Russia, Iran sanctions"
Graham's probably rolling over in his grave right now.
ALSO, this also means Ukraine can't launch any attacks on Russian oil (WHAT CONVENIENT TIMING), so now I guess we're supporting Russia for a problem the war we started created.
Even Fox is reporting this.
Last year Trump complained about European countries buying Russian oil. And it gets better,
Russia has 0, Z - E - R - O diesel, it was only to relieve sanctions.
r/oil • u/Able-Passenger1066 • Aug 02 '26
Discussion FUUUCCCKKKKKKK
: Iran directly rejects Trump's new claim Iran agreed to end its nuclear program and open the Strait of Hormuz as a "complete lie," saying it is a "desperate attempt to manipulate the market," per Iranian military officials to Mehr News.
Iran adds that it has not requested any halt to the planned attacks, and that it was purely Trump who chose to stop them with false claims of a deal.
r/oil • u/Jealous_Slice9371 • Jun 16 '26
Discussion It's now $100B in Sanction Relief and $300B fund with $150B already committed
This is reportedly the source of the $100B claim but I don't have WSJ access to verify:
This is the $150B already committed source:
Edit: This is not tax funded. The JCPOA was also not tax funded. The deal is bad enough as it is, please don't misinterpret this or spread misinformation. If it were tax funded Congress would have to authorize it, does it seem logical that even MAGA Congress members would pass $400B in spending to Iran?
Edit2: u/Ok-Lobster-919 has kindly shared this gift link for the WSJ article:
Upon reading it the tweet does exaggerate the $100B claim. It's essentially *up to* $100B, not an explicitly agreed to $100B.
r/oil • u/throwawayreal3state • Sep 12 '26
Discussion October Surprise Part II
Last night I made an October Surprise thread. One option i mentioned was a nuclear test. I have been waiting on this since ~June (I actually have money on it, I am that convinced).
IMO this headline is them getting out ahead, pre-programming it. Frankly, it would be the ultimate Oct Surprise.
Israel elections EOM Oct. US Midterms early Nov.
It puts Bibi and el-trumpo in the ultimate corner. They've been yapping about nukes for *40 years,* and now there is one. What do we do then??
I think the risk premium on oil would positively explode if they test. It would be the checkmate for ownership of Hormuz, new regional hegemony, and frankly probably the historical moment officially marking a true multipolar world.
Whatever spike in oil price off the official news, I would likely derisk 50%+ (as after that, we would probably have quick moves toward peace from the West - e.g. the Kim Jong Un visit)
edit: iirc back in june Larry Johnson and Pepe Escobar received what they believed was sound leaks from Pakistan (and they claim to have verified it with multiple sources) that Iran had obtained multiple nukes. so.
r/oil • u/Inside-Example-7010 • Aug 03 '26
Discussion They HAVE been watching the oil markets. And HAVE been watching the insider trading
r/oil • u/ZealousidealPut1090 • Sep 11 '26
Discussion Saudi East-West pipeline has suffered catastrophic damage in multiple locations
x.comOil to $200 ?
r/oil • u/Aware_Ad9729 • Apr 08 '26
Discussion Strait still closed
Trump posted that the cease-fire was contingent on the strait opening immediately, and of course Iran stopping attacks. This is a current picture of ships around the strait. It doesn’t exactly look free and open, ships are all still parked and none are going through. And Iran just hit Saudi’s east West pipeline in multiple spots.
So the US gets a temporary relief rally in the markets, but nothing physically changes with oil supplies until a high volume of ships starts moving. I’m doubtful Iran will actually allow that before US actually fulfills Iran’s demands (not just tweet IOUs from a liar), because it gives up most of their leverage. It seems like they’re bullshitting a bullshitter, and made promises to get a temporary pause from being bombed while giving up very little. I’m sure they’re furiously restoring access to all their underground missile bases. And the physical oil situation has only gotten worse if there was significant damage to Saudi’s pipeline today. And every day oil is parked the global shortages get worse. Thoughts?
r/oil • u/Inside-Example-7010 • Aug 06 '26
Discussion US and Israel and possibly EU to be banned from the strait. Im buying oil. No chance this holds.
r/oil • u/No_Shoulder1993 • Jun 19 '26
Discussion Iran is desperate and will be getting no money.
r/oil • u/red_ball_express • Mar 06 '26
Discussion The worst energy crisis in history is on the horizon [very long post]
I don't think I need to talk about how devastating the war on Iran has been for the region. It's a brainless slaughter of human life and wealth that will leave Israel, America, and the Gulf much worse off.
I work in the oil and gas industry and have had a fascination with energy since I was a kid. I'm telling you as bad as the oil situation sounds, it's going to get significantly worse and while there are a few headlines about how the price of fuel is up, not enough people are warning of a global energy crisis that could come worse than anything ever seen. Honestly most people in my industry even are not taking this seriously enough because almost no one working today was working during the 70s when things were bad.
I started really following the war on Tuesday and as soon as I dug in I realized how overconfident Wall Street was about this conflict ending. Banks were forecasting oil would go to mid $70s per barrel, up from $65 before the war (remember this number), JP Morgan called it early at $100. That isn't even close to enough. Finally today there have been headlines about how it could go to $150 or $200 in the coming weeks. That is more like it but it could get much worse still.
How do you know this will be that bad?
The important benchmark I'm using are the oil crises of the 70s. I'll point out that both of those crises were caused by Israel fighting with it's neighbors and revolution in Iran. Both the crisis of 1973 and 1979 saw 6-7% of oil production taken offline resulting in a 400% and 150% spike in the price respectively. With that said, the oil tied up in the Gulf is 3 times that level. Oil isn't just any commodity, you need it to have a functioning society and it's not going away any time soon. Societies that lose access to oil will face collapse. If 20% of the world's car production went offline tomorrow, cars would be more sought after but you can hold on to your car longer, buy a used one, buy one you didn't want, whatever. Losing access to oil means your car won't work at all. 90% of what you need might as well be 0%. You can't to work with 9/10ths of your journey completed. So take that 20% of global production being cut and compare it to the much lower cuts of the 70s which sent the world's economy into recessions and you can't start to see how big the problem is.
You might be asking if this is so bad why hasn't the world exploded yet? Energy crises can take months to manifest. Oil prices didn't peak after the Ukraine invasion until about six months after the crisis started. Many other energy shortages in the past are similar with months between the start and the peak with a steady climb in between.
The Strait of Hormuz being closed leaves all that oil and gas with nowhere to go as you might have heard. I'm going to emphasize this more than just here but there are many people saying stuff that have no idea what they're talking about. There is almost no way to get the oil out. Some pipelines are available but two have already been struck by Iran. At best 25% of Gulf oil can be sent on the East-West Arabia pipeline to the Red Sea but that's not even close to enough to relieve the crisis. There were talks to expand that pipeline a few years ago but they fell through. Apparently that stupid line city project was more important to the Arabians than even a little bit of security.
The headlines you're seeing about shutting down oil and gas production being a headache are more or less accurate. Oil pumps don't have an on/off switch. Shutting down and ramping up production takes time. Another point I'll emphasize more than once: even if the war ended tomorrow, and it doesn't look like it will, shutting down a bunch of production means it's not going to come back anytime soon-which would be whatever if it was 2020 and there was a glut of oil, but it isn't. There was supposed to be a small surplus of oil this year to keep prices down but that's gone now.
How and why is there so much damage?
If you know where to look there are smart people on this topic who do have a holistic picture of what is going on. But one thing I haven't seen a single person mention is Iran, in attacking their neighbors, is setting up for success when the conflict is over. Their neighbors in the Gulf and to their north in the Caucuses and Central Asia, are their economic competitors. By bombing their energy production Iran is making sure the market will be open for them when the war ends, whether that's in a week or a year. It's in their interest to blow up all the fields, processing plants, refineries, smelters, pipelines and liquefaction facilities while the bullets are flying and they can get away with it.
On top of all of that, the Gulf States in the region as well as other countries are rivals with Iran so even without the economic picture the Iranians want to strike their opponents down.
Why am I not hearing about how bad this is?
There are a couple reasons for this. One reason that's often cited is people don't pay attention to things they take for granted until something goes wrong, that's always a factor. But also everyone working in this industry and in most industries, is used to the neoliberal era of the 80s and after the Cold War. In these times, the world runs on hyper efficiency with little margin for backups. The older people who worked during the 70s are gone and replaced with generations who aren't used to the world's most valuable commodity being thrown into chaos because of a "conflict". People have started to adjust to a more chaotic geopolitical reality since COVID but not fast enough. Everyone knows this will cause a supply disruption but they're not expecting a meltdown.
What if the war ended tomorrow?
If the war ended tomorrow we would still be in big trouble globally. A lot of production has already been shut in and might take weeks to turn back on. Much worse, bunch of infrastructure has been destroyed and will take years to rebuild. Also not being discussed, much of the work needed not just to repair but to operate energy infrastructure is specialized labor from the US, Europe, and Asia. Any sane specialist is going to be thinking very carefully about traveling to a region that just erupted into flames and chaos that can't be escaped in an emergency.
Can this be fixed?
I have to say while I paint a picture of complete doom and gloom there is room to prevent the worst from happening. It's possible that a deal might be struck, the strait might open in a limited way, a ceasefire could be negotiated for energy infrastructure, etc. This would still be a disaster as I mentioned but would prevent an energy crisis. But that brings up the point about the US and Iran's stances...
What are the US and Iran doing?
I won't go into this at great length I don't think but it's clear Trump had no idea what he was doing and neither did his cabinet. They really seemed to think that because Iranians hate their government, and they do, that a few bombs would just scare Iran into giving up and that protestors would magically take over and welcome back the pretender who wants to live out his palace fantasies. Anyone who could do a basic and honest analysis of the situation could have realized that would never happen. As much as Iranians hated the Ayatollah, everything I've seen is that they hated the Shah at least as much if not more. This is before the bombings started which, in times of attack, human beings consistently rally around their country even if they hate the government. The notion of "He's a bastard but he's our bastard" is pretty reliable.
Additionally Iran, unlike Venezuela or other countries, isn't a very centralized government. There's a complex structure of politicians who run the country rather than a single person. Then there's the IRGC which is a force of well over 100,000 soldiers who function somewhere in between a paramilitary force and a mafia with loyal and dedicated members across the country in positions of power with weapons and impunity from the law. They're not going to just roll over because their boss was taken out especially when you factor in their religious zealotry and a lack of internal unrest since the war started.
This is all bad for stacking odds considering regime change but the disaster here is what Washington's plans for the war were. I know it's a shitlib talking point but it really bears repeating here, Trump has no idea what he's doing. There is no plan beyond what the Pentagon drew up in terms of military operations. All the problems I've talked about with the global economy and trade network being thrown into chaos were never factored in at all. There was no plan for Iran striking the Arab states in the Persian Gulf or the Caucuses, there was no plan for stockpiling weapons and countermeasures to make sure we could protect against Iranian strike capability, there was no plan for what a shutdown of the Strait of Hormuz would do to the global oil supply let alone all the other things that go through there.
In defense of Trump, he's done a ton of things in the ten years he's been on the political stage that his haters said would cause the end of the world. Much of what he did was genuinely bad but it didn't cause a global catastrophe...until now. He went double or nothing one too many times.
Can the US protect the shipping traffic?
I'm not an expert on modern naval warfare but most of what I've seen is no. The number of US ships in the region isn't much more than a dozen. The ones that are there are busy as you might expect. Our countermeasures are depleted and it doesn't take much from Iran to devastate an unarmored shipping vessel carrying tons of millions of dollars of petroleum or weapons, or anything else flammable and important.
What other disasters am I not hearing about?
A lot. Some of this you might have heard about but I'll list everything I can think of. The Persian Gulf is the factory of 20% of the world's liquified natural gas supply (LNG). The dynamics of global gas markets are slightly different than oil and I can explain them if you're curious but countries in Europe and South and East Asia are vulnerable to losing their natural gas just like in 2022.
Because of the cheap energy, the Persian Gulf is a hub for several industries that are energy intensive. Most notable are aluminum and metals smelters and fertilizer production. So expect aluminum prices to go up along with a fertilizer shortage which will drive global food prices higher.
Qatar and the UAE are home to big aviation hubs for moving people and cargo between East and West. That's come to a halt obviously so expect any air cargo or trips you have planned through there to be in disarray. Also little mentioned, because of the Ukraine war and both danger from warfare and sanctions, many flights between East and West are going through Azerbaijan. This is a narrow corridor that could be thrown into chaos if anything happens disrupting air traffic further.
The strait being closed now means a large portion of global shipping tonnage, especially tankers, are trapped in the Gulf. This might sound obvious but that means those ships cannot be redeployed elsewhere. So if you are moving goods internationally, even if it's not involved in the warzone, you're going to have a harder time finding a ship to put it on.
The countries in the Gulf are desert hellholes that require large inputs to live in. They bring in large amounts of food and make their water from the ocean. There's not going to be enough food getting through so that could quickly be a disaster. And people are right to worry about a desalination plant being hit and wiping out the water supply to these places.
The lack of shipping is also going to be a problem for the US military fighting in the region. Fighting a war means a lot of supplies. There are good discussions on what if the US runs out of interceptors or other equipment. In addition to that people should be asking, how do you resupply a military that's trapped in the Gulf with no shipping going through?
Who will be hit the worst?
Countries that rely on large energy and crop inputs are going to be devastated. South and East Asia as well as Europe are places I'd be most worried about. Europe will be hit after Asia because they're less reliant on the Middle East but it will hurt them in due course. Rationing of food and energy in these places is a very real possibility. If you're in North America expect to see much higher gasoline prices but my guess is not rationing. You never know though.
Are there alternatives the world can rely on?
The short answer is yes but not enough. In terms of oil and gas there might be some ability for some countries to bump up production but the loss of millions or tens of millions of barrels a day isn't going to happen overnight, or even over a decade. Once oil wells are built they are usually operated at or near capacity to get the return on investment started ASAP. Companies don't build oil wells and just let them sit. Not large amounts of them anyway.
I know a bunch of you are going to shout about green power. You can call me an industry shill but I'm skeptical non-fossil alternatives are going to make a difference in the short term, although maybe in the long term. The most important commodity up for grabs here is oil, as of right now renewable energy is usually focused to generating electricity. Despite what you might here, oil is rarely used to generate electricity because it's too expensive. It's usually used for transportation and industry. Sure, if you have an electric car renewables can help get you through this crisis but most people don't and we're not going to replace the billion internal combustion cars on the planet overnight with electric ones.
What should I do about this?
If you want to take a vacation that involves an expensive flight, it's better to book now it now rather than later. If you're wondering when do plan your trip, it's probably better sooner.
If you're looking for a job, the energy industry will likely be hiring soon. Not just oil and gas but renewables and nuclear too. I wouldn't be putting in resumes just yet, wait until things feel really bad.
If you can prepare for living the next year or so without a car, or without driving so much, do it. Get a bike, check to see if you can take the train to work, if you're buying a new car choosing the more fuel efficient model wouldn't hurt.
I need to be very careful here and say the following is not investment advice. But I have personally moved a bunch of money into energy stocks as well as some others. I can give more details in the comments but if you want a single stock I like it's ConocoPhillips as they're a competent company with operations centered mostly in the Americas and Africa and would benefit if the price of energy were to spike overnight without their assets being threatened.
What should I pay attention to?
Again I can give more recommendations but I've been a longtime reader of oilprice.com . There are some good writers there but most importantly they often write articles about topics that are actually important rather than flashy stuff that doesn't matter. There are good articles written by a lot of the mainstream press but a lot of it is also garbage. Oilprice has been pretty good consistently.
Keep an eye on the price of oil, WTI tracks American oil prices and that is really all you need right now. Keep an eye on marinetraffic to see if any ships are actually traveling through the Strait. The crisis could be ending/averted if lots of ships travel through again. Not just one but regular and heavy flows...I mean traffic.
Anything else?
I have to say again that I'm painting a very bad future obviously, but the worst is not inevitable. I don't want anyone to come back and say I am an alarmist liar in three months if the worst doesn't come to pass. I'm writing this because people are:
- Not imagining what the worst case scenario actually is
- How likely the worst case or very bad scenario actually is
If anyone reads this and there are comments I'll try and respond to any questions.
I'm sure there are some smart people who are going to fill in gaps so other people's comments are worth reading too.
TLDR: Oil and other energy commodities that come out of the Middle East are crucial to the global economy. The war is likely to cause a massive disruption in global oil supplies which could result in somewhere between a global economic recession or mad max if we don't start deescalating soon.
r/oil • u/Jealous_Slice9371 • Jun 12 '26
Discussion Trump caves and gives Iran $3B now, $7B Later for Worse Deal than Obama
reuters.comReuters is reporting 3B has already been delivered from UAE. Consider this reporting with the reporting a week or so back about the US releasing Iranian sanctioned funds to gulf countries for "redevelopment" or whatever. That's their plan and they think people will be too stupid to figure it out.
Edit: u/okblimpo123 has rightfully corrected me. I was wrong about the jcpoa numbers, the "1.7B pallet of cash" story gets conflated with it but they're actually not even related. The jcpoa released roughly $50B in total so just by the numbers Trump is *not* giving them more money if this reporting is accurate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oil/comments/1u44smf/comment/oraq7gh/
Esit2: UAE has now officially denied releasing any money but I mean... ofc they would. If this is true you wouldn't admit to it.
r/oil • u/MouseShadow2ndMoon • 24d ago
Discussion ‘Uh oh’: Panic as major US oil refinery shutdown creates price-shock ‘perfect storm’
Yikes!
r/oil • u/Confident-Teach-2967 • Jun 01 '26
Discussion Iran stops negotiations with U.S., vows to 'completely' block Strait of Hormuz: State media
Ruh-roh.
Who could have seen this coming?
Lol.
r/oil • u/future_sommelier • Jul 01 '26
Discussion Trump declares food supply emergency, suspends tariffs on key fertilizer imports
Are we starting to see downstream effects already? Fertilizer shortages will definitely be a result of the disruption of the oil market.
r/oil • u/valuevaluex • Jun 29 '26
Discussion And Orange has another wish
Hard to believe but true.
r/oil • u/Mojoint • Apr 13 '26
Discussion Iran's version of the truth about US navy traversing the straight in order to try and secure Oil transit.
No suprise it's massively contradicting what the US have presented.
r/oil • u/GovernmentGoblin • 20d ago
Discussion President Donald Trump announced that he backs a ban on U.S. diesel exports. Refiners will Cut Production before anything is passed.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent noted during a Bloomberg Law report that officials are currently "examining whether a full or partial ban would work", despite earlier resistance from Interior Secretary Doug Burgum saying it would not help.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/22/economy/diesel-gas-trump-iran-russia
Why Refineries Would Cut Back Production
According to energy analysts and the American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers (AFPM), a ban would backfire on U.S. refining infrastructure:
https://finance.yahoo.com/energy/articles/no-banning-diesel-exports-wont-174502580.html
Lack of Storage Capacity: U.S. refineries produce over 5.5 million barrels of diesel daily, but domestic consumption sits at roughly 4 million barrels. If companies are prohibited from exporting the 1.5 million barrel surplus, they will quickly run out of space to stockpile the excess.
Forced Utilization Reductions: To avoid catastrophic overproduction, refineries will have to lower their operational utilization runs and need to process less crude oil.
Collateral Fuel Shortages: Because gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel are co-products of the same refining process, cutting back crude processing to lower diesel output will inadvertently trigger domestic shortages and skyrocket higher prices for gasoline and jet fuel.
r/oil • u/Inside-Example-7010 • Jul 31 '26
Discussion The worst day for dinosaurs in 65 million years is coming.
r/oil • u/Lumpy_Attempt_6280 • Apr 09 '26
Discussion Zero tankers crossed the Strait today. The ceasefire feels like a ghost story.
the IATA chief is already saying jet fuel will take months to stabilize. We’ve got the ceasefire on paper, but the Strait of Hormuz is basically a ghost town for crude right now.
I’ve been tracking the AURORA—that Panama-flagged tanker turned tail and headed back into the Gulf the second the "peace" was announced. If the shadow fleet is scared to cross, the majors aren't going to touch it.
To be fair, Iran’s still got their hand on the kill switch. Until we see a steady line of VLCCs moving through without doing U-turns, I'm not buying the "recovery" hype. What are you guys seeing on your terminals?
Discussion President Trump orders DOJ to launch investigation into big oil companies for artificially inflating gas prices
r/oil • u/Snehith220 • Mar 11 '26
Discussion salalah port (oman ), this is escalating and not looking good. Only destroying and killing is happening
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r/oil • u/seoulsrvr • 23d ago
Discussion How bad will it get?
What does this sub think are the best and worst case scenarios for gas prices in the coming months.