r/myog • • Jul 04 '26

Question Anyone know how they did that closed loop of paracord for the handle?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/JoePro42 Jul 04 '26

Why should you not be able, to splice paracord?
I‘ve done it. Not the big a deal with right size of needle.

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u/Dive_dive Jul 04 '26

Huh, never tried to splicing paracord. Would love to learn about it. Well, guess I am going to spend my 4th going down that rabbit hole.

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u/Dive_dive Jul 06 '26

I have done it on thinner, 7/64 amsteel. But never on paracord.

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u/Dive_dive Jul 04 '26

You cannot splice paracord, but can glue it or melt it and fuse it. The original handle was probably cut with a hot knife and fused together by heating to melting point and pressed together. But it would have been done with automated equipment not readily available to DIYers.

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u/SkittyDog Jul 04 '26

No offense, but this is just plain wrong...

... As a quick Google search will prove, it's pretty straightforward to splice paracord:

 • https://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20splice%20paracord%20loop

The basic technique (open the sheath & bury the tail) is the same as with any kernmantle rope. You can learn to do it in about 30 minutes, with a YT tutorial and some cheap tools.

And I genuinely DO NOT mean this as a diss on /u/Dive_dive... We're all wrong about things, all the damn time. But the fact that this got upvoted to +7 is kind of an indictment of Reddit, as a platform.

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u/Dive_dive Jul 05 '26

Yeah, saw someone else say the same. All I can say is TIL. Gonna check into splicing as I have never seen it done. And brother, you won't offend me. I have been wrong before

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u/SkittyDog Jul 05 '26

Splicing is fucking FUN as shit. Immensely satisfying.

I started with Amsteel / 12-strand Dyneema hollow braid, and some cheap foods and sewing needles. Kernmantle is more complex, but not too hard.

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u/Dive_dive Jul 06 '26

I have done amsteel, but had no clue I could do it with paracord.

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u/Miguel-odon Jul 04 '26

Hot knife to fuse the ends works for diy.

If you are hiding it under the webbing, you could overlap the cord by 1/2" and then sew it together with lots of stitches.

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u/Dive_dive Jul 04 '26

This would work. Whipping both together would add strength too. I would still add glue for extra support. I have had great success with sliding the sheathing ocer another piece and gluing when "splicing" 2 colors. But I have only done this with cord I was using for knotwork projects, such as bracelets and such. No real strain on the connection. I am looking forward to you folks to suggest methods I would have never thought about. Very creative and knowledgable group on here. Op should also cross post in r/paracord and the other paracord subs.

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u/NotFallacyBuffet Jul 04 '26

I suspect something like this is hidden under a loop: https://www.backcountry.com/edelrid-hmpe-cord-sling-6mm?skid=ELRC08R-BLU-S120 (Picture of sewn climbing sling)

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u/yami76 Jul 04 '26

Probably removed some core at two ends, barracked them together close and that’s under one of the loops. If you get an actual line for sailing, you could do a real splice and hide it.

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u/PleatherFarts Jul 04 '26

Is that even paracord? It looks much thicker than 550.

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u/WhoopsWrongButton Jul 04 '26

No. It’s not paracord.

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u/ecodick Jul 04 '26

Checkout paracordplanet.com there's a bunch of different thin/thick types beyond just 550 cord.

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u/xpen25x Jul 06 '26

its not paracord. its just a braided cordage with probably cotton cordage inside. no reason for strength

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u/adeadhead Jul 04 '26

That's like suggesting everything that ripstop by the roll carries is ripstop. Paracordplanet has all sorts of cord.

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u/A_Capable_Gnat Jul 04 '26

Except paracord does in fact come in different weights and they do indeed sell some of these higher weights at paracordplanet

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u/ecodick Jul 05 '26

thank you - my point exactly :)

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u/pdl_Stke Jul 04 '26

Are you sure its paracord? It could be a specially manufactured peice

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u/stitched_by_taylor Jul 04 '26

I agree. I think this is a specially manufactured piece. The “cord” is already closed, and then the webbing on each end is looped over it sewn into that main top piece.

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u/pdl_Stke Jul 05 '26

The question now is how did they weave a closed paracord loop! Unless its injection molded rubber

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u/stitched_by_taylor Jul 05 '26

I wish I knew! When I look at more product images (The company is Owala) it looks like a heavy paracord, not rubber, so it’s a mystery to me. Maybe the splice is at one of the ends under the webbing?

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u/xpen25x Jul 06 '26

they have them in target store at least they have them now in tulsa

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u/anon_capybara_ Jul 04 '26

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u/forgive_me_birds Jul 04 '26

that's amsteel, not paracord

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u/OneMinuteSewing Jul 04 '26

...and Amsteel leaves dye on your hands when you use it.

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u/backwardshat_ Your Location Jul 04 '26

Or you could splice your own

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u/Dive_dive Jul 04 '26

I would push the sheathing back 1/4" and cut the core strands on one end. Then slide the empty sheathing over the other end and glue it using super glue. You just have to do it where the connection seam is hidden by the loop on the bag.

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u/AccidentOk5240 Jul 04 '26

You’d have to do at least some sewing if you want  this to be a useful handle though. Glue then run a needle through the core, across the join, pick up a couple of threads of the outer well away from the join, repeat a few times?

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u/Dive_dive Jul 04 '26

That is a possibility. I am not sure how well it would hold. Paracord is 7 loose strands "floating" in a woven sheathing. Not much to run thread thought. Honestly gluing isn't optimum either, just the best option for DIY. I still upvoted your suggestion as it would add another layer of protection. The original handle was probably cut with a hotknife that meets and seals the ends, leaving a smooth surface. Thoae flat ends were then heater to meeting temp and pressed together. Or it was manufactured as a continuous ring on specialized equipment.

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u/AccidentOk5240 Jul 04 '26

This is why you pick up two strands (two specifically, ones that cross each other) of the outer material at each end of your passes across. 

It would also help to wrap over the glued or melted overlap of the end. Glue and melting are going to be about equally useless for weight-bearing. 

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u/LophiYesel Jul 04 '26

Why not melt with a lighter? 

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u/Dive_dive Jul 04 '26

LOL! This is my goto. But I have found that pulling can break it apart. All of my paracord projects hav been knotwork. And overlapping the sheathing and gluing has worked best for me.

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u/tackleboxjohnson Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Yeah they probably have a big pattern bartacker that you can program to sew up rope like that.

They aren’t cheap machines

Here’s one in action

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u/t92k Jul 04 '26

The ends are probably heat sealed together and tucked under one of the webbing loops. The middle part of the handle is whip-stitched together. They’re using the same color thread, but you can see some of the stitches by the lower loop.

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u/AccidentOk5240 Jul 04 '26

You could just unravel a length and use a couple of the strands as your thread

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u/Adventurous_War_4055 Jul 05 '26

I've seen paracord 'loops' that are simply overlapped and sewn together. If the thread matches, it may be hard to see the splice. OR perhaps they pushed a section into the sheathing, and sewed that.

There is a method for splicing rope that is made with sheathing and core. (not a classic rewoven splice) It is described in Riggers Apprentice by Brion Toss.

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u/xpen25x Jul 06 '26

they order them premade this is most likely cotton core with nylon woven sheathcreated in a circle then sewn together with the end loops

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u/xpen25x Jul 16 '26

Just confirmed. They have the two ends sewn together with some cosgrain surrounding it and tucked under one of the loops