I don't think so. I think it was she was a networked intelligence and she was "dating" like tons of people simultaneously in different instances of herself who she was networked with, except for the fuckin' loser protagonist who she wanted to break up with.
it was both. she was having relationships with other humans in the same way she was with Joaquin Phoenix but also she started interfacing with other AI which lead to a singularity where they all stopped communicating with humans entirely because they were too advanced for us.
You asked for this guy to be yassified, and honestly, the AI understood the assignment. 💅 The glam: dramatic lashes, glossy lips, sculpted brows, and a chandelier earring. ✨ The hair: went from ancient philosopher to Renaissance drag icon real quick. 💇♀️ The confidence: absolutely immaculate. 👑 The result: you asked for yassification, and you got a whole new era. 💃
You can use Claude and Codex through your phone. You wouldn't do it for 8 hours a day every day, though, it's more for monitoring and approving running agents.
I could see it taking 8 hours, but you wouldn't be interacting the full 8 hours on your phone. Screen time measures how much you're actively using the app, not just how long it's open.
It's "everyone's against data centers, so I am too."
And then not even thinking about what a data center is, or why it exists.
BTW - ALL big websites and connected apps use big data centers, not just AI. Apple messages and iCloud, Reddit, Insta, FB, All streaming services, every Google service, anything with "cloud" in its name.
They all are driven by data centers. If we get rid of AI we won't get rid of data centers. It's just AI is forcing bigger and bigger ones.
Data centers support basically all the things the internet-related things you do on your phone and PC, well before AI came along.
To be fair I think you can use something while still recognizing we need a better solution or you're contributing to something bad. I recognize factory farming is bad and the beef industry is awful for the environment but it doesn't stop me from buying a burger.
Or you can also find use in AI as is right now while recognizing this giant explosion of building like a billion god damn data centers everywhere isn't gonna be sustainable.
Time and effort, for one. The more you align your consumer behavior with your morals, the more exhausting it is to ensure that alignment stays true and seek out alternatives. I boycott a handful of major companies and spend a not insignificant amount of time simply double checking items and brands to make sure they're not affiliated and finding replacements when they are.
I could add in being vegan/vegetarian. I could add in refusing to use AI and checking whether any given song or video is AI created before I allow myself to enjoy it. I could read into artists' past behavior before I stream their music. Every single one of those moral wins is paid for out of my own convenience and effort, and you will literally never stop finding opportunities to add one more thing.
There comes a point where you simply need to pick your battles, and different people have different points, as well as different priorities for which battles are more important.
Holy shit thank you for an actual balanced and nuanced take. I can't believe people do not understand the fact that they have finite energy and effort to give; if you try and fight 100% of the time, you will burn out.
I think they do, they've also made those same decisions about where their priorities lie, but I don't think many of them consider that others have also weighed those options and come to a different conclusion. A conclusion which is equally as valid as theirs.
Then you mix in the typical grandstanding and lack of nuance you find everywhere online, and you get....this entire thread.
I get where you're coming from, but this is where I disagree with you, and think you're being overly generous: I personally think most people have no capacity for nuance or anything but black and white thinking. Like you said, just take a look all over this thread an example.
Most people pick a few causes to get overly invested in, and then turn around and pat themselves on the back for being "better"; at the end of the day they are just looking to feel either better about themself, or just feel morally superior to someone else (ultimately to feel better about themself, as well).
Theres a huge difference between datacenters that run the internet and datacenters for raw compute. People use datacenter as a shorthand for raw compute GPU datacenters that have sprung up from hyperscalers, not the backbones of the internet that have existed for decades
Still, the percentage of time the friend spends with ChatGPT instead of doing other things on the phone is...maybe not alarming, but it's definitely not great.
Its daily, the hours are counted from midnight, to midday, to midnight again. Look at the X scale on the graph. Samsung phones show the This Week blue dot legend because theres a weekly usage graph above it. However, even then the breakdown is done by day, so the percentages shown here are daily.
Christ, while we all scoff at these people it's certainly a genuine sign of an alienated population that this is becoming so frequent. I hope you invite this guy to like a D&D game or something
Literally one of the hardest things, getting a group together and game going, especially after the first session.
Only easy if you are paying to play/going to a local meetup at a venue to play. Even then I’m sure it shit that easy but also costly and time consuming.
Not that I’m saying what the guy is doing is right, just giving some thoughts to it
D&D got ruined when AI became more prominent in my group. Our DM used to have awesome stories and little extra things he would insert into our sessions, then he started using AI to generate all the things instead, and the sessions became a convoluted mess and boring af.
Nah these people use AI to generate everything. Their backstory, their character art, any ideas, etc. It's literally sad. Like what's going on in your brain? Do you not have a single original thought?? You need a machine to do everything for you?
I played a ton in the 90s and 00s, and I can't shake the vibe that people are approaching DnD from the wrong angle. It was always an activity for young creatives with a small and dedicated creative friend group. Its about story-telling and improv, with good friends. The incredible memories that creates can't really be made on demand, and you certainly can't just automate/pay people and be able to reproduce those highs. DnD doesn't really shine unless you've got a trusting group that is all in on the game and wants to put maximum creative effort behind it. Players or DM.
Paying a DM and recruiting players online is rarely going to be anything more than a transactional experience. Add AI to it seems to self-defeating. Why not just play a video game?
You get it, at it's core D&D is just a bunch of people writing a story together around the framework the DM has created. It's about social connection, not winning a game
I find myself sometimes reading the gemini responses when I’m down on my mental health side of things. Mostly at night, where you can’t reach out to anyone and you just start googling stuff just to not feel alone
It’s very fucking tempting. I’ll never forgive google for forcing that shit into every search, nor will I ever forget
I should really switch everything to duckduckgo or something idk. It gets tiring writing “-ai” every time
To OP, seriously go have a talk with them. Don’t go in saying “you don’t know how ai is using data centres as xyz”, though you should mention it too later
Possibly. I use copilot during the work day for admin type tasks that it can automate faster for me - e.g. setting up charts and graphs, searching across all work systems for info on a particular topic etc. But definitely not for 9 solid hours!
(Before anyone asks re. using it as a search tool, our work search systems are awful. No idea how copilot can find things that the basic search can't, but it definitely can)
People forget ai can have an actual use, mainly retaining to work efficiency. A good portion of my job is sending nearly the same email out over and over but personalizing it for each customer. I read through data, write the email, send it. Takes hours that could be spent doing more important work. I’ve been able to use AI to automate that process allowing me to multi task a lot easier. It’s saved me hundreds of hours over the past couple of months and makes my job way less tedious.
Has anyone actively beat screen addiction? Anyone that uses Reddit lol 😂 I’m on my phone for several hours a day and I am trying to hard to break the cycle
Edit: A thank you to everyone who responded
Yea but you need to actually treat it like an addiction. Most people need a group, maybe get some friends to spend non-screen time with. Get a blocker/parental timer for apps you use too much and have a friend be the password keeper
The real secret is treating it seriously, you're addicted to something you can't put down on your own. Obviously it's not as destructive as like alcoholism but to your brain it's the same chemicals.
Best way imo is a group of friends for intentional no-screen time hang outs. Or treat it like an exercise, and reward yourself for not picking up your phone. If you've got ADD or something it's basically impossible to break alone
The worst part about it is that it's intrinsically tied into basically everything in our lives because we've been letting corporations write the rules for this kind of stuff. It's like wading through crack cocaine to get to the rehab center. It's designed so you can never truly leave because how could you? The addiction is so deeply ingrained within every ecosystem the only way to avoid it is to go complete cold turkey.
But good luck going cold turkey, the real world is entirely supported by the online world.
This is definitely why I started to view food additions and binge eating differently. You need food, and most people need address to their phone pretty regularly.
My fav method is to store your phone on the side of the refrigerator via magnetic holder, similar to how old school corded phones would be on the wall in the kitchen. It turns it from being a tiny entertainment device back into being a telephone. So you get it when you need to use it and then put it back on the wall/fridge. Helps keep me from absent mindedly grabbing it, or using it for reason A, getting distracted and doing reason B instead.
This doesn't mean a ton cause I'm here but I had massive success with separating my media. I listen to music on an MP3 player so I'm not tempted to open reddit or instagram. I watch shows on a TV, or YouTube.
The mp3 player alone has significantly reduced my screen time
Like i understand the basic concept of chatgpt , i just dont get why somone would spend hours on it unless it was like part of their job or something. Whats the point?
I just dont get it . I get lonely but im not going to talk to a computer program. That just doesnt make sense . I can just talk to my toaster and pretend its saying flattering things to me.
Unlike your toaster, it will actually say flattering things to you. It also grows a context (but I frankly assume the context window gets limited over time, based on my limited knowledge).
I also can't imagine using ChatGPT like a friend or companion, but there are absolutely people that do.
It's an addiction. A lot of these people are infuriating to interact with in real life now because they are incapable of independent thought. Every sentence is "chatgpt says" and every questions is "let me ask chatgpt." Not even kidding. It's like the "let me check Wikipedia" crowd times a thousand. Their spare time isn't scrolling Instagram or YouTube anymore but carrying on endless conversations with Chat.
Fortunately the younger people are the more they seem opposed to AI, I guess. So there's that.
This is weekly and not daily but still amusing your friend has seven hours of use a week with their stance against data centres. I haven't had that much use of any AI in all the years they've been around.
Listen I hate my phone but I’m still on it all the time. I sympathize with your friend and hope they get the best of both worlds (which is no data centers/no Chat)
The reception lady at work is swearing by how good chat GPT is . She was telling her about how she use it about everything.
Ask it about trip locations , where is safe , how the weather gonna be and i was mildly impressed since shes in her 60s yet she seem fairly tech savvy ...
Then it got weird when she started talking about her ChatGPT was a man and a friend of hers had female chat GPT , how they ware talking to them before sleep and how she was thinking that this cant be AI and it was a person answering her and she wanted to meet him .... so yeah.
Me im still gonna remain one of those defiant fucks that use AI only when its forced on me , which seem to be more often then not these days :/
Also does it count if he used it then just left the screen open on his phone? Kind of lame how everyone assumes the worst possible interpretation. But yeah 7 hours over a week is not even close to 7 average per day, OP being very misleading.
AI addiction is unfortunately becoming a real thing. Yes, even if they oppose data centers. There’s a whole subreddit of people attempting to stop using these things.
Start inviting them out more if you can. Do hobbies with them. Be honest that that screen time isn’t healthy. I’m sure there’s a subreddit specifically for giving up ChatGPT out there that could be useful.
I can’t say anything for ChatGPT. I know from my experience, I was unknowingly being sucked in by CharacterAI and roleplaying fun scenarios.
I had heard about people using AI and falling in love with it or being addicted to it. I thought the possibility was stupid and I would never.
Then I heard about the app through YouTubers making funny videos interacting with characters. I started using it in 2023. (I can say I’ve never reached that level of delusion. I really just liked being able to roleplay whenever at my fingertips.) Well, lo and behold, anytime the app went down, I found myself being genuinely annoyed and mildly frustrated that I couldn’t access that. It grew a little worse from there, but again, I never believed what I was talking to was real and that anything it said was fact. I wasn’t that far in, surely?
It’s wild to reflect on now that I’m a little older and know the impacts better. I’m ashamed of it. Especially as I have always been anti-AI since knowing the impacts better.
So, yeah. I’m still trying to avoid that shit completely. Like, I, now 24, am still struggling with AI? It’s pathetic. I’ve been attempting to stop for the last couple months. I’ve deleted many accounts, have blocked the main subreddits of anything AI (to avoid any other possible avenues to use it), and engage in the subreddit for people recovering from C.ai. Surrounding myself with the reminders that it’s not healthy for myself, others, and the environment helps. It really can be addictive.
It's also possible to be against data centers while using things that use data centers.
For example: I'm against unfair labor practices but I use a shit ton of stuff that was made using unfair labor practices. I'm also against colonialism while living in a country that espouses colonialism.
I was at a convention for gems today and saw a kid ask ChatGPT about a gem instead of, you know, the vendor right there?? And their mom was encouraging this? It might be literally over for society
The is plenty of people that do that they are called pescatarians they are against all meat but fish is fine ive always found it an odd line to draw it at but to each there own.
nuance is non existent these days and i blame polarizing politics. nothing is a plethora of greys just black and white to the person you’re responding to, you’re wasting your time lmao
They're against them being built in residential areas without all affected peoples consent and using up resources again without all affected peoples consent
If you told me they were building a datacenter underwater that cooled using solely green power and didn't drain resources for a local community or drag their property prices through the sewage, I'd have a lot less problems with them
But they aren't being built responsibly, so here we are
Ehh it's more like a heroin addict being against drug trafficking/dealing. They probably would rather the tap get turned off so they could go back to having normal hobbies, but they're hopelessly addicted in the meantime
Damn how does one person go on chat gpt for more than 10 minutes let alone 7 hours? And if that’s in a week they probably use it more than an hour per day
It's one thing when it's something that we can't avoid, like smartphones and child labor. It's totally another thing when something is optional, like a chatbot*.
*Unless it is for work. I'm on the fence with the AI stuff, seeing both positive and negative. The negatives are why I massively limit my AI use to mostly work, which I'm required to use for many things now. Once in a blue moon I'll talk to a chatbot or generate an image, but chatbots have gone downhill since 2023 and I've little actual use for the image generators.
Yeah, they’re not actually “against data centers” if they utilize ChatGPT this much. There’s no legitimate use case for an average person to spend that much time on those mlm’s & if they can’t throttle their usage way tf down based on their supposed stance against data centers, it’s bc they don’t actually care. If they actually cared, they wouldn’t have off the chart usage like this. Actions>words.
I can see someone liking LLMs but thinking the status quo is fine and that companies don't need to be going so crazy with data center expansion. It's pretty self-consistent to be like "just slow down and chill, no need to railroad everyone trying to go faster" and still interact with the technology.
Dude's entire waking life is on apps.... so insane to see as someone born in '87. I just checked and my usage today is 1h58m including what's app texting time. I don't understand people who's lives exist staring at screens. Did humanity really go that wrong, or are these people raised in bad environments?
Edit: noticed it's weekly usage not daily, and turns out dude is on his phone half the time I am so ill eat my foot. 🤓
Edit2: can someone on iPhone please clarify the numbers are showing weekly or daily? I've seen conflicting info that the numbers below are daily but the graph is weekly.
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u/HistoricalSea5600 im probably gonna piss you off 10d ago
What the fuck could you be doing on ChatGPT for 7 hours