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Development Linux Kernel Developers Plan To Remove "Assisted-By" Tag Requirement For AI/LLM Usage

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Dropping-Assisted-By-Req
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u/WaitForItTheMongols 17h ago

None of the issues you describe have anything to do with being deterministic.

Take an LLM, and instead of using a "good" RNG, give it a deterministic one, like the ones used in old video games. The system is now deterministic, and yet all the issues you listed still exist.

Beign deterministic or not is not the key issue here.

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u/Darq_At 16h ago

While you are technically correct, I think you are being pedantic.

The above user is trying to make the distinction between previous forms of automation which exposed tools that operate in a predictable manner and that produced consistent outputs, and LLMs which are comparatively unpredictable and opinionated in opaque ways. Very similar, or even identical if the seed isn't fixed, inputs can result in unpredictably different outputs.

I can see why one might use "deterministic" to refer to that distinction, from the perspective of a user providing the inputs into the tool, and evaluating the range of outputs that they are getting.

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u/WaitForItTheMongols 16h ago

Deterministic is a word that has a definition. If the thing you're talking about does not fit that definition, you are looking for a different word.

Perhaps explainability. We can't explain why a given neural network gives a particular output for a particular input. It is not straightforward to trace behavior to a single neuron firing, and it is not workable to make tweaks to the network directly without re-training. That is one of the core issues at hand.

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u/Darq_At 16h ago

... is a word that has a definition.

The motto of the pedant. I suggest reading to understand, rather than to reply.

I even tried explaining why, from the perspective of the end-user, "deterministic" is actually a fairly apt description.