Not holdover, I meant to type soldier. I’m curious to what the lesson was mabout today. We had a playback.

During the lesson today, this was mentions by the narrator. I just want to clarify.

Hello, I am a 14 year old kid. I chatted my dad via my friend's phone. He told me I should go home. I told them that I wanted to leave after I arrived, told my mom it was a cult. They weren't so happy. They are devoted cult members after all. They told me I should brighten my mind and showed them why IT is a cult. They said it's just their own interpretation. Then I showed Matthew 6 7, that one verse that said that repeated and hypocritical prayers won't get accepted. I told them "and hypocritical". Which means that YOU can repeat a prayer as long as it is not hypocritical. They just shook their head and said that's wrong. I cried hard there. Then after it subsided my mother called my uncle, which was a minister. I refused to talk to him. He said I don't know what I was doing. And i gtg sleep. bye.

Guys good day, Sabi nila noon hindi daw family corporation ang Inc

Bakit ngayon masyado na halata?

1. Founder Felix manalo

2. Erano Manalo

3. Eduardo Manalo

4. Angelo Manalo

4 generations? Manalo?

Ayaw niyo nga sa political dynasty

Pero kayo naman pala ang meron Niyan !!

What the F!!!

Ano na nangyayari? Wake up guys!!! Malaking negosyo ito

Back when I was a brainwashed kid, I really thought INC were so organized like a government of its own, having sets of system and officers who works for the operation of their department. But now that I am "woke", I realized they are more than just that, one note mentioning similarities between the govt and inc is that they are both corrupt, infested with red tape, and dang so incompetent (cuz they will not save any one soul for their church is a sham)

Lol

Save and share this online for anyone who are interested

The youth will soon wake up. How can a foundation be so strong when a simple AI prompt can shake it on its legs?

I know, some of you may dislike AI and it's use cases, and I even scrutinized it by asking it to provide me with Non-WikiPedia sources (aka more credible, proofread sources). And it instantly gave me this.

If you ask it "Is there no chance that it happened on July 27, 1914, actually?" then it says the declaration was actually signed on July 27, but if we go by technicalities, there were no casualties hence no war.

Such a simple, simple tool.

Well, it's actually true...

noong bata bata pa ako, inaamin ko na isa din akong owe. may tungkulin at masiglang tumutupad. nakikinig pa nga sa aral at talagang nadadama ang pag samba. may pag iyak pa ngang nalalaman. haha. pero isa sa mga nag bigay sakin ng pag dududa ay itong video streaming bs ni evm. noong hindi pa dumadating ang covid, mayroon ng video streaming at pakiramdam ko napaka tamad ng gantong pamamaraan. na para bang walang pera si evm para pumunta sa ibat ibang lokal para man lang mabisita nya ang mga tao doon. pero ano pa ba ang aasahan sa self proclaim sugo, ni bawal nga silang pag pawisan kaya mas pabor sa kanila ang maging streamer nalang. at ng dumating na nga ang covid naging standard na ang streaming hanggang sa natapos to. nawalan na nga rin ng silbe ang himnario. pero ang nakakatawa dito, hinding hindi malilimutan ang pag aabuloy. talagang may nakalaang kahon para doon mo ihulog ang iyong handog. walang kupas sa pag kolekta.

anyway ang akala ata ni edong mas nakakaenganyong makinig sa tv kesa sa harapang pag teteksto. ang hindi niya alam SOBRANG BORING NG GANTONG PAMAMARAAN. kanina nga sa pagsamba dito sa lokal ng imus ang dami kong nakitang tulog at mga lutang ang diwa sa video streaming, dahil walang kadating dating ang teksto. lalo na ang teksto e tungkol sa pagmamind condition na ang iglesia daw ay inaapi at wag basta basta maniniwala sa mga taong naninira dito. pero thankful din ako dito sa video streaming na to kasi ang sarap sarap matulog kasi hindi mo iintindihin kung nakatitig ba sayo yung ministro or hindi. pano ba naman, tv yoong nakatitig sayo. HAHAHAHA

Nagt-TH Lingap and Lagak ba kayo? If yes, how much? kasi me personally sobrang labag na sa loob ko magabuloy pa nga lang tapos, pipilitin ka pa maglagak and shi. Kaso mukhang mapipilitan talaga ako para hindi ako kausapin ng ministro samin. I feel like mas makakalusot ako sa TH/Lingap compared sa Lagak, but if possible, ayoko din talaga maglagak kahit bente hirap na hirap ako i-let go sa kanila

Have you gone to church already? If not, this is what's all about the lecture. Basically it's just edong yapping that "NoT aLL yoU SeE oN SoSyAl mEdYa iS TrUeE" and obvi they're referring to reddit, it's so funny that they can't handle criticism lollll, and get this, they mentioned earlier that "the youth is the problem!!" They're mad because half of the youth it woke, their eyes are opened to the fact that they're being raised in A CULT. They're dictating parents to "watch your children!! What're they reading and seeing on the internet!!" And i was pissed at that coz they also count on the youth to continue this cult, and they're saying WE'RE THE PROBLEM?? 😭😭 also, they wanna make our chapel cool, cool-to HAHAHAH, BASICALLY THEY'RE RECRUITING PEOPLE TO MAKE BIIIGGG DONATIONS TO BUY AIR-CONDITIONINGG, and every meeting (I'm a MT and a PIMO, woohooo, i get to give yall more info) they're pleading that "don't you want it to be cool in here, brethren?" IT IS COOL, COOL-TO. but seriously, they're mad at the youth because we're woke.

PSA TO ALL NEW INC'S, THIS RELIGION IS A CULT. THERE IS NO SALVATION HERE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shLHdMeZgMs

Hi everyone. I’ve been lurking here for a while and finally built up the courage to make a throwaway account and introduce myself.

I am a Filipino high school dependent, and I am mentally out of the church. I don't believe in the doctrines anymore, but because I live under a very strict, high-control family, I have to pretend to conform just to survive and avoid constant conflict.

To make things harder, I am transmasc. Dealing with severe gender dysphoria while being forced into feminine expectations by a deeply homophobic and transphobic household has taken a massive toll on me. Between the intense religious trauma, family problems, and constant judgment, my mental health is exhausted. On top of all that, school stress is hitting hard right now, and it feels like I have absolutely no safe space to breathe.

I’m incredibly nervous about posting this because the fear of judgment follows me everywhere, but I really just need a community that understands how heavy it is to carry this dual burden. If there are any other closeted queer youth or students here dealing with the same thing, how do you cope with the pressure?

Thank you for reading. It feels a little better just typing this out.

There's an ongoing rumor that Angelo Manalo is going to lead the worship service next weekend, October 17-18 so I would like to verify if others have heard any news regarding this.

Apparently, this would be conducted somewhere in south luzon and the site is known for its heavy traffic so they're expecting one in the upcoming week.

By the context that I've gathered, the topic would probably be about youth.

Honestly, I feel like the INC matters more to my mom than I do. I was completely exhausted and my body ached from yesterday's workout and all the walking I did with my friends; yet when I told my mom this—and it happened to be a Sunday—she started complaining. She said, "Oh, so when it's time for church, your body hurts, but when you're with your friends, you have so much energy," and "You can't even spare an hour for God." She calls me lazy and crazy for not going to church. But why would I want to go to a place where every guy—even the ones my mom herself sees—makes moves on me and tries to ask me out? Why? I’m 17 years old, and I can’t wait to get out of this hellhole and leave the INC behind for good, on my own terms.

translation:

Sa totoo lang, pakiramdam ko mas mahalaga sa nanay ko ang INC kaysa sa akin. Pagod na pagod ako at masakit ang katawan ko dahil sa workout kahapon at sa dami ng nilakad namin ng mga kaibigan ko; tapos noong sinabi ko ito sa nanay ko—na nagkataong Linggo pa naman—nagsimula siyang magreklamo. Sabi niya, "Ah, kapag magsisimba ka, masakit ang katawan mo, pero kapag kasama mo ang mga kaibigan mo, ang lakas ng energy mo," at "Hindi ka man lang makakapaglaan ng isang oras para sa Diyos." Tinatawag niya akong tamad at baliw dahil hindi ako nagsisimba. Pero bakit naman ako gugustuhing pumunta sa lugar kung saan ang bawat lalaki—na kahit ang nanay ko mismo ay nakakakita—ay nagpaparamdam at sinusubukan akong makipag-date? Bakit? 17 anyos na ako, at hindi na ako makapaghintay na makaalis sa impyernong lugar na ito at tuluyang iwan ang INC sa sarili kong paraan.

Matagal ko na napapansin to tuwing nangangasiwa si manalo

Yung mga kasama nyang ministro sa likod is nag susulat. Anong tine-take note nila? Mga techniques sa pag sasalita para mas lalong ma brainwash yung mga kapatid? Simula ma bautismuhan ako lagi sila nag susulat e super curious ko bat busy na busy mag sukat instead of makinig HAHAHAHHAHA

Hi gusto ko na po matiwalag, paano po ba? Kailangan ko po ba sumulat ng salaysay or magpunta po ba ako sa kapilya para inform sila na ayaw ko na po maging kaanib ng INC?

Or wag nalang po ba akong sumamba?

10x ko na po namiss ang pagsamba at kino contact na rin ako ng katiwala ko.

Paano po ang ginawa ninyo? Okaya sabihin ko nalang kaya nag asawa na ako ng katoliko kahit hindi para lang itiwalag na ko HAHA

I’m 27F and I live independently here abroad.

I've been a Church Member for years right now. I don't wanna tell to much but I am in highschool and once I become an adult I'll be planning to departure from my church in a way that my family won't question or know until later. Hopefully.

I was surprised to see there's a reddit group full of ex-members or used to believe in the faith of this form of Christianity. I haven't explored much but I can tell everyone has their own experience and opinions on the Iglesia Ni Cristo organization. Ironically at least 55% of the time it was Filipinos, lol. But I seen there are English speaking members and I want to ask y'all. How come you don't believe in the faith? What is making you inclined to not fully believe in the teachings of God and Jesus Christ?

I'm asking this as someone who also feels the same way. Despite being in a family that are Christians, I myself do not fully believe nor understand Christianity explained by the Iglesia Ni Cristo. Despite the teachings, lessons, indoctrinations, and even attending worship services, not even 1% in my body did I ever understood nor believed in Christ. At all.

"Just pray to God and he will provide!" After covid, my family is financially struggling. "Pray to God for whatever you need!" This family has too many issues swept under the rug and dysfunctional as shit. "The end is near!" Hopefully. Also it's kinda not helping me as I overthink if we're all gonna destroy the earth and earth dies and I'll never get to achieve my dreams. "The devil uses his instruments to keep you out of the path of God!" Well shit I get my whole family and I are the devil.

At a young age, even as a 5 year old, I think I already had a foundation of beliefs. God, Christ and the Holy Spirit and the Bible were none of those. Think of it like handing a child a "made with real authentic" waxed candle and you tell them to place it on the table and light it up. They do as they're told but the moment the fire is set, the wax doesn't melt. And after awhile the fire dims and dies, nothing is changing. Yet neither the child nor parent changes it. But the child is confused on why there's nothing happening to the candle, and why isn't like the rest of the other candles?

It looks weird and out of place but it stays there anyways because it's a candle. All candles are the same, right?

I feel so performative yet so forced to act like I have a faith and belief in God and Christ but there's no spark. So, am I truly a Christian?

Please share your own experiences! I'd like to know how even if you never believed in God or Christ, how do you perceive it and what effects do you think it had on your life until now? Or even before? Was there ever a spark or was it just sitting there as empty space that was forced onto you yet you had to hold on to it?

This story was shared by my mother. When my father was on his highschool years, he had a dream of finishing college and getting a job as a seaman. My father is a hardworking student (more competent than me being honest), but he was always turn down by my grandma and her reason was "there is no inc in other countries or in the sea". She made him stop going to school just to make money, he would do everything in the house and whatever money he makes, she takes it and donates it to church and he never got to graduate from college.

There was one time where my grandpa who made a promise to us and made sure my grandma knew than whenever he retires, he's gonna use that money to build us a permanent home. When the day he retired, my parents were expecting some new but no news came. They waited for a week until they decided to ask, my grandma answered with "so what? you think you're entitled to drain our money?" and proceeded to take 100k from that retirement money to donate it to inc, because she expected the people in inc would come and build her a house but it never came.

She expects money from everyone that is close to her and where does that money go? to the inc of course! My aunt would give her around 10k every month, now she loses that money under 2 weeks, no she doesn't pay no bills, doesn't even buy us food, and doesn't help my parents with some expenses, everything goes to inc and she throws a fit whenever we don't go because she wants us to “thank God by donating.”

And it’s on Social Media pa. Eugh! 🤢