Ginagamit lang ang Lingap na iyan para sa propaganda, photo op, at para makapag-recruit ng mga future na magbibigay ng lingap.

Biruin ninyo maliit lang ang puhunan ng INC kada tao, konting goody bags para makaakay, tapos kapag naanib na, habang buhay nang magbibigay ng abuloy.

Hindi ako against sa pagbibigay, against ako sa intention ng pagtulong na pakunwari dahil once na maging miyembro ka na, hindi na tulad sa "akay" ang magiging turing sa iyo. Isa ka na ring empleyado ni Manalo na kailangang mag-recruit ng iba at sumunod sa lahat ng utos ng pamamahala. At against rin ako sa pagtatago ng information / lack of transparency kung magkano ang nakolekta sa lingap at kung magkano o saan ginagamit ang pera. Mind you, WORLWIDE iyan, imagine the amount.

At sa dami ng naibigay mo sa lingap, kailan ka ba nalingap? Kahit nga mga ministro at pamilya nila kapag naospital, ambagan pa rin ang mga miyembro pandagdag sa hospital bill. Ilan na ring ministro ang tinulungan namin dahil hindi naman sila binibigyan ng financial support talaga lalo sa hospitalization. Hindi ko lang talaga maintindihan, panay pa rin ang promote nila kay Manalo sa kabila ng kakuriputan niya. Maaaring takot silang mawalan ng ikabubuhay kaya nagpapanggap na lang.

Samantalang si Manalo ipinapanalangin pa nila na ilayo siya sa karamdaman gayong libre naman siya lahat sa medical treatment at lahat ng nakapaligid sa kaniya naka-mask. Sigurado ako kapag nagkasakit siya at pamilya niya, sa Hospital pa rin ang punta nila at hindi lang aasa sa pahid pahid ng langis.

Very unusual para ulit-ulitin ni Eduardo yung pangamba nya sa kabataan at sa social media kahapon sa boring nyang manaloflix na halos mga tanders na uto-uto and gurang na OWE's ang mga nagsisiiyakan. Na "huwag paniwalaan ang lahat ng nakikita sa social media at internet"- halos generic line na nga to ng mga ministro tapos si bangag na EVilMan hindi man lang makaisip ng phrasing na hindi yung paulit ulit na ganito.

Laging nakamasid at nakamatiyag ang central sa bawat post sa subreddit na to dahil nahahahayag sa kanila na maraming kaanib ang nagiging PIMO usually mga kabataan. Kagaya na lamang ng nakuwento ng kaibigan kong PIMO sa Lokal ng EGM, Rizal. Mayroon daw nag-abuloy ng 20 na nakalagay ang pangalan ng subreddit na to tapos nilalait si supreme leader at culto ang Iglesia ni Manalo, at may nakasulat pa daw na PIMO. hindi raw nila ma trace at nanggagalaiti raw ang distrito. Tapos ang porsyento ng dumadalo sa buwang pulong ng kapisanan ng binhi at kadiwa pabulusok. Kaya nga tunay nang dumarami na ang mga kabataang nagiging PIMO sa panahon natin ngayon dahil sa instant access natin sa internet na yumayanig sa pang kultong diktaturya ni Edong.

Just saw the news about the shooting of the 3 minors by a member of Task Force Disiplina sa QC and lo and behold member din ng inculto + dds. Grabe walang awa tong hayop na to napanood ko yung ininterview siya dun sa kulungan and he said na deserve daw nung magkakaibigan kasi "salot daw sila sa lipunan".

I think this has been a frequent question here but I cant really get an answer.

For context I’m a CWS choir member and the thing is, Im at that age where I should be leveling up to AWS choir since I’m 16M. I don’t really want to level up but everyone has high hopes that I accept aws choir. Another thing is my sibling has some issues with taking an office due to being PIMO which led her to step down in CWS choir too. My parents and the brethren have really high hopes that I should join since my family is quite active and lowkey, those sugarcoating words like saying Im “good enough for the choir” or “the choir needs you” is working its way through me.

Apart from Choir, I also remember trying to get into the Binhi President position and it’s been a few years since I wrote my salaysay and did my seminar for that but I never took oath as president. Im currently under training still after a few months but idk how I should dip out of that office too since its been a known fact that Im gonna be Binhi president

So, how do I avoid getting an office till I move out? Like is there a reasonable excuse to get out of both orobavle future offices that wont really make them suspicious of me?

Man, I know it isn't fool proof but if your relative is Kalihiman and has contacts with other locales, it makes sense they'll constantly keep checking if you've transferred properly aksjdkf

The messages, constantly checking if I'm still attending worship service, persuading me to take tungkulin... I'm so relieved I managed to move to a new address but omg they keep messaging me

I should've just lied about my new address 😔 but at least I'm out! But it's still feels heavy that what it took was leaving/losing my family

Just wanted to share my experience... also may I ask, does anything happen if I just ignore their nagging about my transfer? Thank you

Despite being a PIMO, I personally feel nostalgic in locales and chapels, especially when empty. I feel as though I am reconnecting with my younger self, with my parents guarding the chapel. I remember the times when I was actually happy to be here, and when I haven’t known the truth yet. I feel that many brethren feel the same way, not just about the chapel but with the whole church as well—when it was an actual place of worship and solemnity, not a political power disguised as a religion.

what are your guys’ thoughts on this?

https://habeasdockets.org/dockets/docket/63516/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/73600805/payabyab-v-maldonado-jr/

https://usa.inquirer.net/169629/inc-minister-arrested-in-new-york-after-allegedly-texting-a-minor

Kakaibang pagbangka yan kapatid 😂

Kung sa tingin mo nagiging malapit ka sa Ama dahil sa sakripisyo na bibinibigay mo sa tungkulin mo, dun ka nagkakamali. Una sa lahat, di ka naman nagbabasa ng Biblia upang malaman ang contextual na kahulugan ng sakripisyo na binabanggit sa mga talata. Dun pa lang, uto-uto ka na. Pangalawa, kung nakatuon na oras mo sa pagtupad, wala ka nang oras para magsuri sa Biblia ng walang impluwensya ng kulto.

Inuulit ko. Wala ka nang oras para magsuri sa Biblia ng walang impluwensya ng kulto. Kung puro ka na lang pakinig at di ka nagtatanong kung bakit palipat-lipat ng talata sa Biblia, nahuli ka na sa bitag ng kultong ito. Nakatago sa hiwaga ang karunugan ng mga talata, kamo? Hindi naman yan ang pinapahiwatig ng Biblia na ibig sabihin ng hiwaga, kung mararapatin niyo lang basahin.

Translation:

If you think you are being near to the Father because of the sacrifice you do for your holy duty, that's where you are wrong. First of all, you do not even read the Bible to understand the contextual meaning of the word 'sacrifice' that is being stated in the Bible verses. At that point, you are already deceived. Second, if you devote your entire time in performing your holy duty, you do not have time anymore to examine the Bible without the influence of the cult.

I repeat. You do not have enough time to examine the Bible without the influence of the cult. If you only listen to the preaching and you are not asking why the verses are scattered and all over the place when being preached, you are already in the clutches of the trap of this cult. You say the wisdom of the word of God is hidden in mystery? That's not the intent of the Bible when it used the word 'mystery', if you spent time and self-will to read it.

Kala ko ba Biblia ang salita ng Diyos? Eh bakit ipinamamahagi nyo Pasugo? Tama, dahil di dapat malaman ng mga tagabasa ang kabuuang kontektso ng mga talatang nakasulat doon.

Ano ba mangyayari kapag binasa nila? Magdududa sila, at kapag nagduda ka, sunog ka sa impyerno HAHAHAHAHA. Di pa kayo susulong pag ganyan at wala na kayong allowance sa susunod na buwan. Kayo pa naman ang nangangako na hinirang ng Diyos pero kayo rin ang nagbabawas sa salita niya. Napakawalang silbing pag-aaral ng ebanghelyong kayo rin naman ang sinasabing mga HUWAD sa mga talata, kung paano niyo maging sunod-sunoran na lang sa isang PHILOSOPHY degree holder na si Edong Nepotismo

the church and some of its members like to boast, about the funds of the church such as the recent donation to Nepal and all the lingap offerings.

if the church was so great with finances and organizing them, why is it common among different districts to have issues with the f10 process.

sometimes having to purchases items before the f10 is approved and hope to get reimbursed later. sometimes its reimbursed multiple weeks to a few months even after the activity was done.

the church has to lean on the officers wallets so much, yet are so boastful with the finances of the church.

Lahat nalang kailangan e center sa kanila, delulu yarn HAHAHAH

This is a need advice post, but I’d like to share my story lang (excuse me for a long post ahead).

I sincerely am worried about not getting out of this cult in the future. I am few years, almost, graduating from college and soon be living the real life. My parents are like certified OWEs, and truly look up to the CA. Even mga live stream niya ngayon, puro pinagdidiinan sakin na “pakinggan mo, sobrang ganda ng leksyon”, “tama naman eh puro paninira lang talaga sa social media” pinaniniwalaan talaga nila as if tama siya sa lahat. Malapit din sila sa mga ministro sa central and we are even surrounded by kapatids kasi sa pabahay kami nakatira (maraming pabahay so I doubt they’ll know). Like almost everything sa buhay namin ngayon, sa INC umiikot dahil sa kanila.

Araw araw, trabaho nila nasa loob, buong araw, tungkol sa inc at paglilingkod diyan sa mga Manalo. Growing up, puro pag tupad and even pag aaral dito sa Era na lang talaga—never na ako nakaranas ng outside world inc kaya ang strange ng ibang bagay sakin noong mga una. At first nung di pa ako nalilinawan sa mga kalokohan ng inc, it felt like a privilege kasi at peace daw kami dito sa bahay at sa ibang mga dahilan pa. Kaya wala kaming sariling bahay, dahil buong buhay dito na kami naka rely. Kontrolado kasi eh, puro ‘pagsunod nang walang pasubali’ na lang lagi. Also, hangga’t kaya raw nila, maglilingkod sila diyan sa loob. So, forever din sila mag wowork diyan. (kahit walang insurance, walang benefits. sadly)

I also had a non inc partner and feel niya kalaban siya ng lahat. Including my closest friends and my family. Kilala na ako ng fam niya and tanggap ako, pero bakit daw ang unfair sa side niya na ganun trato and tingin sakanya. Na porket hindi siya inc, iniisip na bad influence siya or something, kahit wala naman siya and kaming masamang ginagawa. Hindi siya tanggap ng mga tao sa paligid ko. And that is merely because hindi lang siya inc. Unfair and bizarre truly. Gusto lang naman daw niya mag mahal, pero bakit ganito. Kaya minsan napapaisip ako bat ba ako inc pa.

Strict din sila ever since. Di pwedeng umuwi ng late kasi may curfew sa mga pabahay. One time, nag rant ako saying na bakit mga friends ko pwedeng umuwi nang late? Ang sagot nila: “ibahin mo kami sa mga magulang nila, sila walang iniingatang tungkulin dito, hindi naman sila taga rito sa pabahay, di naman sila naglilingkod sa loob, may mga patakaran tayo dito” not exactly but the whole thing is something like that. Andaming bawal, andaming restrictions, andaming rules.

Last thing, my parents even get anxious nowadays kasi alam nilang medyo bumababa faith ko rito (start to nung rally kasi I’ve been questioning a lot about inc directly to them) tapos parang baka they feel like they failed as parents and nag worry baka di na ako maligtas sa kapapaniwala ko sa socmed. They even restricted me to read THE BIBLE.

So, with all this being said, is there really a hope in leaving this cult in the near future? I came to realizations. In a sense na I feel like wala akong freedom to do stuff lalo in the future—what about my dream FREEDOM and happiness sa life and sa cult na ‘to? I am firm na talagang gusto kong umalis sa cult na to. I would appreciate your advice and sharing your story.

So eto na nga, guys. I'm back after 3 years, nag post na ako dito before pero dinelete ko yung account ko na yon.

From tanong tanong lang dati dito to natuluyan na nga talaga.

Three years ago, nagkaroon kami ng anak ng tatay ng anak ko, na miyembro ng isang simbahan. During that time, ang daming nangyari sa amin, and one thing na hindi ko talaga nakalimutan ay yung sinabi ng mama niya sa akin. Sinabihan niya ako na wala naman daw akong proof na anak talaga ng anak niya yung anak namin.

Hindi daw maniniwala simbahan nila, wala naman daw sa birth certificate yung name ng tatay.

Hindi ako same church sa kanila.

Imagine, sarili mong anak, tapos parang kailangan mo pang patunayan na sa tatay niya talaga siya nanggaling. Hindi ko nakalimutan yung sinabi niya na yun.

Fast-forward to three years later, binalikan ko talaga yung issue sa simbahan nila. This time, hindi na puro salita lang. Pumunta ako sa simbahan dala-dala yung DNA test na nagpapatunay na biological father talaga siya ng anak ko, pati yung kasunduan naming dalawa na may pirma niya.

I presented those documents sa simbahan dahil gusto kong panagutin siya, at ang goal ko talaga ay mapatiwalag siya. Tapos sabi ng Lola niya dapat daw mag pa dokrina ako para maging handog yung anak namin. Utot. 🤣 Sinabihan pa na ang payat daw ng anak ko, sabihan ko sana "mapayat paano di nagsusuporta apo ninyo. Char!"

Alam kong may mga magsasabi na bakit ngayon ko lang ginawa, bakit after three years ko pa binalikan, at bakit hindi na lang ako nag-move on. Pero honestly, hindi ko ginawa yun dahil wala akong magawa sa buhay. I did it because I wanted to bring the truth and the evidence to the same place kung saan gusto kong panagutin siya.

Ngayon, feeling ko galit sa akin yung mama niya dahil sa ginawa ko (pero wala akong pakialam, kahit mag violet pa sila) hindi din ako nakakaramdam ng guilt. In fact, masaya ako kasi feeling ko deserve niya yung consequences ng mga ginawa niya sa akin for years.

Hindi ko naman sinasabing perfect ako or wala akong pagkukulang. Pero after everything I went through, feeling ko karapatan ko rin namang manindigan at ipaglaban yung sarili ko at yung anak ko.

going back after three years, bringing the DNA test and our signed agreement to his church, and trying to get him expelled feels good, btw.

Gago na kung gago pero lintek lang walang ganti specially when it comes sa anak ko.

It was such a EAR SOAR to listen to the Manalo CULT’S minister have his prayer say “Executive Minister” like a broken record. It is truly a DISGRACE and a shame that a church that’s named “of Christ” not praise and glorify him as how they have been glorifying Eduardo their CULT leader!!!

Even though I didn’t understand Eduardo’s preaching in Tagalog I read the subtitles. I was really happy that Eduardo mentioned the internet and how he felt about it, which he and his Administration CULT has no control over!!!

It was so HILARIOUS that the INC CULT leader “Eduardo” mentioned that INC members should not listen to influencers who go against the INC doctrine’s. Truly if any INC members don’t have a brain of their own they would be trapped in the Manalo CULT doctrine’s for the rest of their life and they wouldn’t know anything that’s “of Christ”!!!

HAHA na buang na ang mga kapatid halos lahat ng post nila gawa ni Ai. 😅❌🇮🇹

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People: i have lots of friends I can't leave them, its hard to leave because they matter to me.
People: the people there are nasty gossiping pieces of Shizz. etc.

OR: I don't interact with people/do not like to/ so it doesn't matter, I have no friends eitherway. etc.
OR: half and half ,. i like some and i hate some.

Theology: i really believe its the true religion and i have not heard of a compelling reason that proves they are false, perhaps just mismanaged in some form.
Theology: its clearly nonsense inconsistent and indefensible claims.

Family: my family are very important so I dont care if its false religion ill stay cause I can't bear to lose my connection to my parents and relatives.
Family: they just add to my stress, I wish I could afford to leave right now so I don't have to deal with them anymore.

Politics : I like the effect they have in the country (politically)
Politics: They should not even be involved in politics

Money: I like donating, they do alot of charity works.
Money: I hate donating, they are just stealing all that money anyway.

I just saw this on Facebook. Why are they holding hands? Hahaha, just curious. I came across this photo on an INC member’s account. 😂.

Lagi nilang sinasabi na malapit ng dumating si Cristo at ang paghuhukom. Ayon sa awit #157, sa kanyang pagdating ay salubungin natin siya. Paano kaya kung sa Lebanon siya maglanding, paano na tayong mga Pinoy dito sa Pinas. O kaya kung sa Cebu siya maglanding, pano makakasalubong ang mga taga metro Manila o north Luzon.

Hi just wanna rant how some members of a certain lokal started to recruit people to join crypto trading shenanigans. And from what I heard from my uncle(also got recruited), a handful of people were recruited to it so he insisted that it is legit and wanted me to join also. I refused and told him that it seems too good to be true. Unfortunately he is too gullible to listen, he bought level 5 for his entry account. The catch is he would have to wait for 3 months before getting his first pay out and need to recruit more people also. But before he could even withdraw, their account got wiped out. And everything was gone. They couldn't get any explanation to what happened. For the record, also posted is the supposed income rate and the last message they received in their telegram gc.

Hey District of MAKATI. Do you work. Your brethren are not following EVM and they are using GC.

Ps. Involved mostly are officers in Kadiwa and Scan

Ang hilig hilig nilang gamitin ang pangalan ng diyos in vain noh?

Pinapanormalize nila yung mapapanget na nangyayari sa ibang mga tao na nandirito sa sub nato kasi pagsubok daw ng Diyos para hindi kayo ma held accountable kasi pangalan na ng Diyos yung ginamit nyo eh

Kung una palang inaksyonan nyo na problema nila dba wala rin namang mag r rant dito?

Wala eh, wala kasi kayong pake tapos sasabihin nyo na kaaway nyo kami. Ayaw na ayaw nyong paniwalaan na hindi nga kayo perfect para walang magreklamo sainyo.

Sasabihin nyo rin na hindi ayon sa utos ng Diyos? baka hindi ayon sa inyo?

Kung marunong rin si Edong na mamuno hindi yung laging parusa, paghuhukom (mula bata pa ako naririnig ko na yan), paghahandog at pagsunod.

Lalo na pag wala kayong masyabi sa mga tanong namin, i p-pull nyo yung card na may pangalan ng Diyos.

Umayos nga kayo kala nyo rin makapangyarihan yang pinagsasabi nyo, sigaw sigaw lang alam nyo, LALO KA NA EDONG, ang lala mo!!!