UK could rejoin EU within a single Parliament, experts confirm

[u/VeryTolerantDave]

https://bestforbritain.org/uk-rejoin-eu-single-parliament/

[u/rufiohProbably]

tl;dr

uk law hasn’t diverged too much from eu law, so there shouldn’t be too much impediment in realigning with eu law.

And there’s precedent it can be done fast like when Finland joined.

Edit: typed down instead of done

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/rufiohProbably]

The UK could join tomorrow if both the UK and the EU wanted. That's never been the question. The question is... do the UK and the EU want that?

• For the British right, this would be a massive failure. An admission that what's probably the most well known right-wing policy in the West this century was just bullshit that made things worse.
• For the British left, it would be perceived as ignoring popular will.
• For the EU, readmitting the UK with its old privileges would feel like the EU can be played with and pushed around by friends and foes alike without consequences.
• For other EU countries, it would feel like once again the classic Western European countries are treated as special and given privileges.
• If the UK was admitted as a regular member, Brits would see it as a failure from their government as they believe they are entitled to special conditions and that this is so obvious any government should be able to get them.

There's also the ironic part that admitting the UK back would mean adding a lot of non-Western immigrants back into the EU, as non-Western immigration to the UK has skyrocketed since Brexit.

[u/wbd82 → u/kaisadilla_]

Right, but if those non-Western immigrants aren't yet British citizens, then they wouldn't have the freedom to relocate to EU countries, even if Britain rejoined the EU

[u/FreshBallsagna → u/wbd82]

For now. Once they naturalize, they can move anywhere.

[u/Tetr4Freak → u/FreshBallsagna]

If they naturalize, they arent foreigners anymore...

[u/MrOaiki → u/kaisadilla_]

The “western European country” are not getting special treatment; they just so happen to align with EU principles and law already. If Montenegro us corrupt and the UK isn’t, then having anti-corruption as a rule isn’t special treatment. It’s the same treatment but e.g Ukraine doesn’t fulfill the predicates yet.

[u/Character-Carpet7988 → u/kaisadilla_]

Well, tomorrow would not be realistic even if both parties wanted. It'd be much easier than for a completely new member state because the legislation is largely aligned, but there would still be a couple of laws that'd need changing + a review of every law adopted between Brexit and now (on both EU and UK side). I'd estimate at least two years.

Otherwise your points stand and I'd just add that EU should not accept the UK in just because 51% of Brits is in favour. There needs to be an overwhelming support for rejoining AND the European project in general. Even pro-EU Brits often refer to euro or Schengen as something evil they need to avoid if they rejoin. If a state doesn't believe in the Union and European integration, they should stay out.

[u/shakibahm → u/kaisadilla_]

Simply speaking, it can't be done without another referendum.

[u/Lakilucky → u/rufiohProbably]

Finland has been in the EU since 1995. We joined NATO in 2023. They are two VERY different orgs and joining the EU is much more of a process with way more requirements and deeper integration than NATO.

And besides, the leavers were right in one thing: the deal the UK previously had was unfair. For us that is. We absolutely should not let them join with their old special exemptions. Unfortunately, I don't think rejoining even has majority support in the UK under those conditions.

EDIT: My first paragraph makes no sense, since the article talks about the 1995 enlargement and not the 2023 joining of NATO. Please disregard.

[u/rufiohProbably → u/Lakilucky]

Article says it took 3 years for Finland to go from wanting to join EU to member state. Thats what I was referencing.

[u/Lakilucky → u/rufiohProbably]

My bad, should have read the article before commenting. I just assumed you were referring to NATO. 😅

[u/wbd82]

Yes, please, let's get it done. The sooner, the better.

[u/daeneryssith]

please please please

[u/SnooPoems3464]

No compromise on Euro and Schengen adoption though. Screw opt-outs and vetoes alike.

[u/compiledsource → u/SnooPoems3464]

The opt-outs are written into the still current treaties.

[u/SnooPoems3464 → u/compiledsource]

If the UK wishes to join again, it will be on the basis of a new accession treaty

[u/ziplock9000 → u/SnooPoems3464]

Good job you don't get to decide.

[u/SnooPoems3464 → u/ziplock9000]

Neither does the UK. It’s the EU that will decide ultimately.

[u/ziplock9000]

The sooner the better

[u/VicenteOlisipo]

Could. Won't. But could.

[u/LindemannO → u/VicenteOlisipo]

I don’t know. Burnham is the first PM to openly admit Brexit was a mistake and said that before the year is done, he will present the UK with what “options” we have after the summit with the EU. Just this week he publicly said Russia influence was evident in the leave campaign. Everything feels geared up for it. Either it be another referendum, or he calls early elections with a mandate.

[u/Feisty-Struggle-4110]

Sure if the UK agrees to everything the EU says. Joining Schengen, phasing out the Pound and introducing the Euro, no more UK rebates, EU takes full control over the London's financial institutions, and pass laws to fully implement the four freedoms of the EU: freedom movements of good, freedom of services, free movement of capital, and most importantly: free movement of people.

[u/Junior_Main_6425]

The U.K. or if you are so inclined GB will have to show it is a grown up democracy with no likelihood of them pulling such a stunt again. Elected 2nd chamber. Elected head is state. Regional assemblies and or PR/AV elections.

[u/ziplock9000 → u/Junior_Main_6425]

It's more grown up and stable than most EU countries. It's likely you and your attitude that needs to grow up instead.

[u/k930]

They leave EU, turn their country into United Kaliphate and we should just take them back? No thanks

[u/ziplock9000 → u/k930]

You know there's more Muslims in France, Germany and Italy per capita right? or are you just generally dumb and Islamophobic?

[u/k930 → u/ziplock9000]

maybe you're dumb thinking everything is about muslims and not giving foreign cultures priority over local cultures and values?