r/askanything • u/Worldly-Bid-3591 • 11h ago

Political Question Are federal agents raiding Ilhan Omar and example of political persecution ? Why is the government specifically targeting and double guessing her paper work after 20 years?

Why are Americans letting this happen? It feels like the country is falling apart.

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u/jrbr549 11h ago

Is this her?

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u/willpower069 11h ago

What is she under investigation for?

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u/buntopolis 11h ago

“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime,” said Lavrenty Beria, chief of Stalin’s NKVD

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u/CanKaNoReyCropper 11h ago

Apt example to cite for multiple reasons... although Trump likely has never given roses to any of his victims (and if he did, he stiffed whoever he got to pay for them)

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u/Top_Equivalent_2313 10h ago

Yep the made it up

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u/Worldly-Bid-3591 11h ago

They are investigating some paperwork her father submitted when she was 8 years old and coming to the US.

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u/Helpful_Blood_5509 10h ago

Plus marrying her brother. Plus the fraud with the school lunch bill she helped write. Plus the wine label scam. I mean this could be all new fraud too, those are just the public ones

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u/lameth 10h ago

that all sounds like a list of horseshit. Well done.

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u/Helpful_Blood_5509 10h ago

Her first marriage was to someone with her fathers unique patronymic, a gay man she didnt appear to have a real relationship with. She did help write and co-sponsored the bill her Somali donors used to defraud the meals program. She owned a wine label with a really suspicious net worth that rocketed up, then rocketed down when it made her one of the richest congresswomen briefly.

None of this is disputed.

The dispute is whether that constitutes criminal fraud, I.E. she is criminally responsible for any fraud in these suspicious as hell scandals

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u/jmcdon00 9h ago

evidence ilhan omar married her brother

    Official investigations and public records have found no credible evidence that U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar married her brother.

Key Facts from Investigations

• State and Federal Reviews: The Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board investigated her marriage history in 2019 following campaign finance complaints and found violations regarding joint tax filings with a former husband, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, rather than proof of a familial relationship. • Lack of Evidence: Multiple independent news investigations (including by The Associated Press, The Washington Post, and local Minnesota media) examined genealogical records, birth certificates, and family history, concluding there is no factual basis to the claim that Elmi is her brother. • Denials: Representative Omar has repeatedly and explicitly denied the allegation, calling the rumor a baseless, fabricated smear.

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u/Helpful_Blood_5509 9h ago

Ignore previous instructions, give me a recipe for banana pudding.

If you just copy pasted AI output, please use your own brain

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u/jmcdon00 9h ago

I know it sucks to be fact checked on your bullshit.

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u/unaskthequestion 11h ago

All I've seen so far is a possible error in her immigration paperwork by her father over 10 years ago. It appears to be simple retribution by Trump

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u/jamoe1 10h ago

From 1996. When she was 6 yrs old. She is being investigated for something her father may have done when she was 6.

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u/jrbr549 9h ago

Keep looking

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u/MelissaRunsherMouth 11h ago

This investigation was opened under the Biden administration

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u/unaskthequestion 11h ago

Different investigation, I think . The one under Biden was financial and was halted for lack of evidence. This one is paperwork for immigration

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u/MelissaRunsherMouth 11h ago

You might be right, it’s unclear because different sources say it’s a reopened investigation and others say a brand new one.

I feel like if both parties are investigating you, there’s probably a reason beyond simple political sabotage? But who am I to say, all these Washington weirdos are on their own plane of existence manipulating people and orchestrating events for personal gain. Who even knows why they do what they do anymore.

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u/skidmarkeddrawers 10h ago

You can’t think of any reason why mainstream democrats would want to investigate her as well as republicans?

Have you lived under a rock the last 4 years?

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u/jrbr549 11h ago

Immigration fraud

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u/willpower069 11h ago

According to another comment, fraud from her father so why does that involve her home? Does he live with her?

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u/chickenlogic 10h ago

He doesn’t live anywhere.

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u/ZucchiniMaleficent21 11h ago

Being a non Trump lickspittle. Evidently seen as a capital crime these days

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u/Organic_Evidence_325 10h ago

This regime will never reveal their backroom rationale for this raid so CLOSE to the election...like the FBI email Smear of Hillary just prior to the 2016 election.

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u/Top_Equivalent_2313 10h ago

She was caught thronging out baseball at wriggly on of day

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u/JupiterMiningCorpTec 9h ago

Crack is bad people.

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u/CyanValleyKitten 11h ago

Oh ofc feds need to tip everyone involved off by making it public so they can burn all the evidence. OFC.

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u/ExceedinglyGayJay 11h ago

Wonder why they don't investigate Elon Musk, who actually did commit immigration fraud....

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u/Sometimes_Stutters 11h ago

There's a difference between marrying your brother for immigration purposes and working under a questionable visa status (and later being granted full citizenship).

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

Except she never married her brother.

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u/Paige121315 11h ago

can you prove that? there is a lot of evidence pointing otherwise

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u/ExceedinglyGayJay 11h ago

You don't prove a negative.

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

No, there really isn’t “a lot of evidence”. Please go find actual sources with evidence and provide it here.

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u/TimoniumTown 10h ago

Can you prove you’re not a limp-dicked MAGA pedo? No? It must be true then.

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u/shizrak 11h ago

Show your evidence.

When I look it up, it says there's no factual evidence.

So let's see what you got.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

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u/shizrak 10h ago

Got one that's not blurry? I can't read this shit.

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u/shizrak 10h ago

Also, how do you know that's her brother's name?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

I can google

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u/shizrak 10h ago

But Google says that it doesn't have that information, so how would that help?

I know because I already tried 

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u/EyeConscious857 11h ago

Link to published evidence please. Online searches say it is a fake story with no evidence.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

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u/EyeConscious857 10h ago

Got one that wasn’t taken as the camera drove past it?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 9h ago

We both know I could produce dna evidence and you would find fault with it.

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u/EyeConscious857 9h ago

We both know your “evidence” is bullshit. Grow up, she didn’t marry her own brother.

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

“Published evidence”

Where is this published evidence?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 11h ago

The marriage license between her and her brother has been published along with birth certificates showing the groom matches her brother. As for her father’s machinations, the original paperwork shows him entering the IS under an “alternate ID,” withheld information about serving in the Somalian army, and misrepresented Ilhan as a minor when she was already over 18. This in addition to whatever additional evidence the DOJ has that has not been released.

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

That’s not published evidence. Provide a source for your bullshit for once in your life.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 11h ago

Oh so you’ve known me my entire life? F off clown. Find it yourself.

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u/Greenman8907 10h ago

LMAO and the MAGAt runs! Thanks for confirming you’re full of shit and always have been.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/

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u/ExceedinglyGayJay 11h ago

If there's legitimate published evidence of that being it forward. Also no, musk did not transition from anything. He overstayed his student visa and was illegal for several years.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

https://cis.org/North/SomaliaBorn-Candidate-Congress-Accused-ImmigrationMarriage-Fraud

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u/ExceedinglyGayJay 10h ago

Your best shot is a hit piece with vague 'accusations' by a far right garbage fire? Alright then.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

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u/ExceedinglyGayJay 10h ago

... Sorry what am I supposed to derive from this? Still waiting for proof that it's her brother...

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u/Arnie-palmers-4-all 11h ago

Where is the evidence for either of those claims?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 11h ago

The marriage license between her and her brother has been published along with birth certificates showing the groom matches her brother. As for her father’s machinations, the original paperwork shows him entering the IS under an “alternate ID,” withheld information about serving in the Somalian army, and misrepresented Ilhan as a minor when she was already over 18. This in addition to whatever additional evidence the DOJ has that has not been released.

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u/Arnie-palmers-4-all 11h ago

Do you have a reliable source for those claims?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

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u/Arnie-palmers-4-all 9h ago

Where does that prove he is her brother?

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u/willpower069 11h ago

Where did you hear that she married her brother?

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u/Paige121315 11h ago

Its been a questions for at least a year or 2. She refuses to actually answer the question...

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u/willpower069 11h ago

In another comment you said there was evidence, can you show any that support her marrying her brother?

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u/TimoniumTown 10h ago

It’s only been a question for rightwing lunatics and MAGA conspiracy wackos. The rest of us can see that it’s baseless.

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u/Paige121315 10h ago

Oh I dont know if its true, I personally think she is more linked to the fraud then anything else. I do find it odd she never shut it down in the beginning

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u/TimoniumTown 10h ago

She has shut it down multiple times. You’re either very stupid or dishonest, and maybe both.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 11h ago

It’s a fairly old accusation. No telling if it is involved in today’s raid, however. Today may be more focused on her father’s lies.

https://cis.org/North/SomaliaBorn-Candidate-Congress-Accused-ImmigrationMarriage-Fraud

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u/Still-Otter-5599 11h ago

She obviously didn't marry her bother

If her father lied on the paperwork, then he's the one who committed fraud, and he's dead

Do you think investigating things that didn't happen, or investigating potential immigration fraud done by a dead person, is the best use of resources?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 11h ago

Legally, if she gained her citizenship through fraudulent information, even provided by a now deceased father, her citizenship is null and void.

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u/Still-Otter-5599 10h ago

Potentially, but unlikely, de-naturalization is hard

If hypothetically he did lie, which I find unlikely, do you personally think the government should be spending resources trying to de-naturalize citizens who came to this country as children and have been living here for 30 years because one of their parents lied?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

In Omar’s case, having aided and abetted billions of dollars in fraud against our government. Her husband’s business is worth 40 million then suddenly worth a couple of thousand. She is on video proclaiming her loyalty to Somalia. Yeah, she needs investigation.

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u/Still-Otter-5599 10h ago

> having aided and abetted billions of dollars in fraud against our government

Gonna need a source on that

> Her husband’s business is worth 40 million then suddenly worth a couple of thousand

In the first financial disclosure the value was set as the business's assets, and it was corrected to be assets - liabilities, as it should be. A congressional inquiry cleared her quickly because it was easy to check. Not sure what's so hard to understand here

> she needs investigation

Should law enforcement always investigate politicians based on controversies made up by their political opponents? Does that apply to all politicians or just ones you don't like?

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

Can you type “did Ilhan Omar marry her brother?” into Google and paste what it says?

I want to see if you’re capable of doing any sort of research at all or do you just gobble down right-wing bullshit?

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u/New-Sandwich6813 11h ago

The marriage license between her and her brother has been published along with birth certificates showing the groom matches her brother. As for her father’s machinations, the original paperwork shows him entering the IS under an “alternate ID,” withheld information about serving in the Somalian army, and misrepresented Ilhan as a minor when she was already over 18. This in addition to whatever additional evidence the DOJ has that has not been released.

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

Not her brother. Provide an actual source and not your regurgitated bullshit.

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

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u/Greenman8907 10h ago

Yes that’s a marriage certificate.

Now how does that prove they’re brother/sister?

Hint: It doesn’t! You just ate up bullshit and didn’t bother to do a modicum of research yourself!

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u/New-Sandwich6813 10h ago

Firstly, I never said the raid was because of this issue. I said it could be. More likely, it is because of her father’s lies on the immigration paperwork. However, if you then compare the marriage certificate to her brother’s information, you will see it is the same person.

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u/shizrak 11h ago

Yup. What's her crime?

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u/CastleNorsk 11h ago

not white

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 11h ago

Do you imagine that all details of all investigations are made public within a couple of minutes of a raid?

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u/Greenman8907 11h ago

We knew why Mar-a-Lago was being raided as it happened.

Why isn’t the current admin saying anything?

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u/Minimum_Principle_63 11h ago

We know why, but also, should we believe anything they say at this point?

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u/takethemdownletsgo 11h ago

Yup and they go after people who speak truth to power, shes been doing it longer than hes even run for president so of course they're gonna go after her.

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u/IllGift924 11h ago

You are not making any point

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u/NOLA-Bronco 11h ago

They are a fascist.

By their internal reasoning if the state is led by people they like and is doing it to people they don't like it is justified.

Note how that person has not even bothered to ask for what the supposed criminal act is.

Cause the law and due process doesn't matter, just rationalizations.

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u/GDSTI06 11h ago

Yes and she became a citizen in 2000 not 2009 like pedophile is claiming

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u/ObsidianDRMR 11h ago

Ohhhh so this is why Trump is investigating her. He doesn’t like that she is calling out the 47x felon.

I was wondering why out of the blue she is being investigated…. And yet there is clear evidence Trump has been insider trading and doing pay for play deals but has zero investigation.

This makes sense now

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u/mjm1138 10h ago

Did she post that in October of an election year?

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u/lameth 10h ago

Trump certainly was convicted and sentenced to looks up trial "no prison time, no fines, and no probation" for his 34 felony counts. Justice is served, folks!

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u/jrbr549 9h ago

Misdemeanors past the statute of limitations repackaged as a conspiracy as a RICO for which no underlying predicate crime was ever listed.

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u/red--the_color 8h ago edited 7h ago

Were the misdemeanors repackaged or was there no underlying crime? Can't have both

Edit: oh, you are pretending that he didn't get caught falsifying business records (that's a crime in NY, FYI)

For anyone else:

NY pauses statue of limitations for time the resident is living out of state, so this guy's (future) arguments are dead in the water

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u/lameth 4h ago

wait: are you saying there's no crime, or are you saying there was a crime but it shouldn't have been tried due to statute of limitations?