r/askanything • u/Vert_der_Ferk25 • Sep 02 '26

Political Question Why am I supposed to be impressed with who Charlie Kirk was?

He was a paid professional debater. He went to a college campus, set up a tent and cameras, and engaged with amateurs who had no experience doing what he did. And the right loved him for it. His media team would then cut clips of him scoring points against amateurs, and they would push them out on all their social media feeds.

Isn't this like LeBron James going to a campus and setting up cameras while he played pickup games against kids who, at best, were on the college team but more likely dabbled in basketball, but were no match for the expert? And then what would people think if LeBron's media people cut clips of him dunking on these young amateurs and pushed them out as "highlights"?

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Isn't Kirk's legacy just sad?

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u/crusoe Sep 04 '26

Just a reminder that the elderly cofounder of TPUSA didn't think COVID was a big deal. And he died of COVID.

Kirk was not a trained debater and he got walked by those who were. Which is why he stuck to college students.

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u/Dirtgrain Sep 04 '26

Yes, unprepared college students who walked by. Any time he faced prepared, capable students, his BS fell apart.

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u/Hopeful_Figure_6446 Sep 04 '26

I didn’t like him at all, but I think you’re disingenuous with this sentiment I see often repeated in threads like this. Those college kids were not unprepared. They had weeks of notice. They stood in line. Some signed up to debate him and would wait patiently for hours for the chance.

If they looked ill prepared to defend their opinions, that they wanted to voice, that’s 100% on them.

It often went like this . Charlie asks them “what do you want to debate about?” They tell him a topic like underwater basket weaving. Charlie goes into asking pointed questions, then his sound bite script. Student acts confused and ill prepared.

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u/hahailovevideogames Sep 04 '26

No this is reddit kirk is bad nazi!!11!

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u/Green-Foundation-702 Sep 06 '26

He’d lose against them most of the time but his team would edit around that. He was an awful debater and any team he went up against an adult with media training and his team couldn’t edit it, he’d get absolutely wrecked.

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u/ialsohaveadobro Sep 06 '26

It's almost as if he had been preparing each such subject for years.

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u/Dirtgrain Sep 04 '26

You can see videos where they are just walking by a booth/tent/whatever he set up--sure, and some where people planned ahead, but in his early days, not so much.

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u/ClassicDetective7629 Sep 04 '26

Give me one example pls

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u/Dirtgrain Sep 04 '26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3liIXGJXNs

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u/Rgame01 Sep 04 '26

He clearly destroyed her argument 🤣🤣🤣. Where exactly did his bullshit fall apart?

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u/Dirtgrain Sep 04 '26

You are a liar.

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u/Rgame01 Sep 04 '26

Where's the lie?

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u/Dirtgrain Sep 04 '26

Dear sea lion, no thanks. But feel free to provide proof.

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u/Rgame01 Sep 06 '26

If youre going to repeat terminology youve heard you should at least understand the meaning behind it 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Dirtgrain Sep 06 '26

You seem like a Russian propaganda bot. If you aren't, that's really sad.

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u/ProfessionalLab6501 Sep 04 '26

I always wondered this. Do you have links to him debating anyone who has a fully formed prefrontal cortex?

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u/adgobad Sep 04 '26

Google Charlie kirk Cambridge debate

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u/CLT113078 Sep 04 '26

You never saw the videos of him talking with college professors?

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u/Jacks_CompleteApathy Sep 04 '26

Most college professors aren't professional debaters either. Even if you have lots of knowledge on a subject, you can still "lose" if you aren't used to debating

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u/Icy_Hippo6633 Sep 04 '26

Yes but they think they are great debaters which is why they have the confidence to step up to the mic