Fall is the best. Also cleaned up a tv some knuckldraggers left out there. TEAM CLEAN UP!

Hello FFLs –
 
Thanks to the many of you who forwarded us the open letter from the ATF regarding the NFA on Friday.  We did not have any pre-knowledge of their guidance or decision, so it required us to consult our legal counsel to ensure that we give you the best guidance we can from the perspective of the background check.
 
RCW 9.41.250 requires suppressors to be registered federally for use:
 
RCW 9.41.250:
(1) Every person who:
(a) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slungshot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife;
(b) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or
(c) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm unless the suppressor is legally registered and possessed in accordance with federal law,
is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
 
This requirement is addressed in the ATF open letter on page 2:
 
ATF will continue to administer the NFA on a voluntary basis. ATF will accept Form 1 applications to make or register these firearms and devices by those making such items. ATF will also accept Form 3 or Form 4 applications to transfer or register such items.Manufacturers are allowed to report the manufacture of these items on a Form 2.
 
And on page 3:
 
Fifth, the district court’s injunction and the enforcement policy announced by this Open Letter do not affect state or local laws that govern NFA weapons. Most states have general criminal prohibitions on the possession of some or all NFA items. These laws often have exceptions for those NFA items possessed in compliance with or registered under federal law. Individuals, including dealers, should consult their local law enforcement authorities or seek legal advice for guidance on whether unregistered NFA items are lawful in their jurisdictions. Because interpretations of state law may vary, local authorities should also be contacted, or other advice sought, before transporting an unregistered NFA item into or through another jurisdiction. Additionally, it is unclear whether state courts will apply the safe harbor created by 18 U.S.C. § 926A to interstate transportation of unregistered NFA items. Consequently, individuals should exercise caution before transporting unregistered NFA items through states in which such items are prohibited by law, even if the items are not prohibited in the originating and destination states. The GCA also continues to prohibit federal firearm licensees from transferring statutory firearms in violation of state or local law. 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(2). The GCA defines “firearm” to include all NFA items for which Congress eliminated the tax, including silencers. 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(3).
 
As a point of contact (POC) state, our Secure Automated Firearms E-Check (SAFE) system is the only conduit for you to obtain a NICS check for NFA items.  Therefore, effective immediately, SAFE is authorized for use for NFA items to conduct the background check only. 
 
The use of the SAFE system does not meet the requirement for federal registration if required, and you or your customer may still need to submit ATF Form 1, 2, 3, or 4 in order to meet state law requirements for use of NFA items.
 
The ATF has set up an email address for additional questions:  [NFAGuidance@atf.gov](mailto:NFAGuidance@atf.gov) 
 
Thank you,
 
Washington State Patrol
Firearms Background Division

An article on Fox just said the ATF is suspending the requirement to "federally register or seek the approval to manufacture or transfer silencers, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, and any other weapons". The ATF announced this on Friday. I have an older AR pistol that I've been trying to convert to an SBR. Does this mean I can just buy the parts now?

Crump is responsible in part for many nation wide and regional 2A victories. He's launched fuddlist.com and pro2alist.com as a way to persuade retailers not to over comply. So far it's been effective at changing a lot of company policies.

He says it's going to be supporting state specific over compliance such as refusal to ship an AR upper to Wa.

I'm for pressuring people to so legal stuff. At the same time I'm also in favor of not bullying people with the burden of selling stuff in our state becomes more risky than the small profit, and where they don't have the resources to know whether it's legal or not and it's not feasible for them to get those resources.

Note. Nothing in this post is offering or requesting anything for sale nor linking to any vendors. It is talking about a utility for keeping track of which vendors are over complying and helping them to understand what they can legally do.

Edited to correct errors.

Not sure if this is the best place for my question but... I'm in the Seattle area and would like some recommendations on where to go for antique gun appraisal. I've inherited some pistols, revolvers and a rifle. I'm not looking to sell necessarily - just wanted an approximate value and maybe some backstory. Thanks in advance.

I'm just looking to finish my collection before Permit to purchase goes into affect. I've found some on gun broker but after dealing with shipping fees and FFL transfer fees I would much rather just pick one up from a LGS. Preferably one in Pierce or south King county.

Hey everyone!

I'm looking to see if anyone here has used the gunsmith at Discount Federal Way Guns and can vouch for the quality of his work.

I'm getting back into shooting after being away from the hobby for a while. Now that I've finally got some free time, I'm trying to get two of my firearms squared away.

I have two firearms that need some work done, including:

- Reassembling an entire upper with replacement parts I've purchased

- Lapping the upper receiver if necessary. I'm mainly focused on accuracy and reliability, so if it doesn't need to be done, I'd rather leave it alone.

- Pinning the gas block

- Properly torquing everything to spec

- Staking the castle nuts on both firearms

- Going over both firearms to make sure everything is assembled correctly, properly lubricated, and functioning as it should

My biggest priority is making sure everything is done correctly and to spec. I'm aiming for the best possible accuracy and reliability without having unnecessary work done.

I'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest gunsmith. I'd rather pay a little more knowing the work is being done right the first time.

I've also been considering C.A.R. Firearms, so if anyone has experience with either shop, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Mainly interested in hearing from people who've actually had work done by Discount Federal Way Guns. How was the workmanship, attention to detail, turnaround time, etc.?

Appreciate any recommendations or firsthand experiences. Thanks!

Anyone know of any great cerakoter in the greater Seattle area? Im located in the Ballard Shoreline area. Trying to spice up some stuff I got :).

Looks fine how it is, I used rubberized under carriage paint for that gripping texture. What do you think? Show us your diy camo

Next available appointment for king county courthouse appointment for cpl is dec 30th. Is this normal? Not to mention this location is sketchy AF. All the other locations say no availability or are only for residents of that area. Advice?

With the new permit to purchase coming next year, does it affect NFA items, or strictly firearms?

Does anyone know if the ID/OR border stores have announced they can still sell WA legal firearms to residents after the PTP comes into affect?

Making a list of items to purchase and need to know If I'm eating ramen for the next year to get all the suppressor's Im wanting for the rest of my life...

Officially started my 10-day waiting period for my Ruger Mini-14 Ranch in 5.56! This will be my first semi-auto rifle, and with Washington’s current assault weapons ban, I feel it’s one of the best options still available. An SBR setup and threaded barrel would be nice, but for now, I’m keeping it compliant with the AWB. Excited to finally add this one to the collection!

September 25th, I purchased a Ruger American Gen 2. Two days later, I bought a suppressor to go with it.
Form 4 approved in just 4 days. Meanwhile, today was supposed to be pickup day for the Ruger, and somehow it’s still not ready.
Of course, Monday’s a holiday, so that’s another delay. 😂
Gotta love it. A 10-day waiting period somehow turned into 19+ days, while the suppressor paperwork cleared in four.
Make it make sense.

I already have an AR-15, with the new ruling for SBRs I wanted to convert it, I know since my AR-15 is already an “assault weapon” I can convert it to an SBR, but I’m not sure about how the process to get the short barrel is. Can i order it to my front door like any other barrel or do i need a 4473 for it?

So are we able to just put on a stock now on our already existing ar15 pistols that we've all owned pre Washington aw ban? Were not creating a new AW since we've owned these "assault " pistols for years now pre ban Right? Makes sense to me. All help appreciated

Can anyone recommend a gunsmith capable of chopping down a barrel, rethreading and pin and welding the muzzle device?

Ruger american .308

Somewhere in the area between Bellingham and Seattle.

Anyone know any FFLs that’s will transfer the bca bolt action in the Arlington to Lynwood area

Wondering if they are worth it. Been tired of going to the forest and finding trash, sketchy/reckless individuals and closed spots.

Im an Oregon CHL holder, I understand that my CHL is not recognized by Washington and that they have a 10 round max on magazines. I am constantly going back and forth between the two states.

is it illegal for me to possess a 12 round magazine in Washington even tho its unloaded and locked away in a separate case?

and it is illegal to have a LOADED 10 round mag in a separate locked storage box (away from the firearm.) I do not have a CPL for Washington.

https://www.atf.gov/media/30961/download