r/VAGuns • • 18d ago

ATF Director: suppressors currently being transferred by FFLs are not 4473 violations & more from FFL compliance event.

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ATF Director Cekada was adamant that a federal firearms licensee (FFL) found to be transferring suppressors on a Form 4473 WILL NOT be cited for violations. Former NFA Chief Albro later echoed this, saying the ATF’s policy is to presume all suppressors transferred via a Form 4473 were legally transferred. This should put some FFLs not transferring currently at ease.

The Director noted that official guidance likely to come in a few weeks will address suppressors, SBR/SBSs, and traveling with NFA items. The DOJ and The White House also have a hand in the guidance.

Other things of interest in the article are some comments about FRTs, changes to 4473s, the recent change for handgun sales for 18-21 year olds, age requirement for machine guns, internet retailers, and more.


r/VAGuns • • Aug 18 '26

[Megathread] Virginia FFLs Participating in NFA Injunction

67 Upvotes

As the title states, this is a megathread for the known Virginia FFLs that are participating in the NFA injunction for named plaintiffs (GOA, Silencer Shop, PSA, etc.)

Also, please post the general area the FFL is located as well as any special instructions they may have for obtaining previously restricted items.

Please stay on topic, off topic comments will be subjected to removal.

With love,

- [r/VAGuns](r/VAGuns) Mod Team


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

The History of 'possessed in compliance with federal law'

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A lot people are spewing bullshit, so I decided to look up the history on this.

Virginia may already allow injunction-protected SBR/SBS possession without a Form 1 — and the legislative history matters

Not legal advice. I’ve been digging through Virginia’s SBR/SBS statutes, the 2026 Silencer Shop/Jensen ruling, and Virginia’s legislative history, and there’s an important point I don’t see many people discussing.

Virginia Code §18.2-300 generally prohibits civilian possession of a state-defined sawed-off rifle or shotgun. But §18.2-303.1 expressly says that nothing in the article prohibits one that is:

“possessed in compliance with federal law.”

Virginia appellate courts have already recognized §18.2-303.1 as containing the actual civilian exceptions to the state prohibition. Dillard v. Commonwealth specifically describes it that way. (FindLaw)

Here’s where the history gets interesting.

Virginia used to have its own state registration requirement for sawed-off shotguns. That requirement was repealed in the 1970s. Virginia later expanded the law to cover rifles and, in 1993, added the present “possessed in compliance with federal law” exception.

In other words, Virginia knew perfectly well how to require state registration if it wanted to. It got rid of that system and later chose to make federal compliance the standard instead.

Virginia did not write:

“must have an approved Form 1”

“must be registered in the NFRTR”

“must have an NFA tax stamp”

or

“must bear additional NFA maker markings.”

It chose the much broader language: “possessed in compliance with federal law.”

Now look at what happened federally.

On August 5, 2026, the federal district court in Silencer Shop Foundation v. ATF, consolidated with Jensen v. ATF, held the challenged NFA provisions unconstitutional after Congress reduced the relevant NFA making/transfer taxes to $0. The court permanently enjoined ATF/DOJ from enforcing those provisions against the plaintiffs and, where applicable, their current and future members/customers. That includes major Form 1, registration, making and possession provisions. The Jensen plaintiffs received additional relief from §5842(b) and §5861(i). (GovInfo)

So for someone genuinely covered by that injunction, the ordinary Form 1/registration provisions are not merely being ignored by ATF — the federal government is under a court order prohibiting it from enforcing them against that person.

Then on October 9, ATF went further and announced nationwide non-enforcement for SBRs, SBSs, silencers and AOWs. ATF specifically says it will no longer enforce:

prior approval before making;

NFA registration;

The associated unregistered-firearm prohibitions;

Interstate transportation of unregistered covered NFA firearms under §5861(j); and

“the NFA requirement to mark all NFA firearms.” (ATF)

That last point matters for people wondering about the traditional extra NFA maker engraving.

The October 9 policy does not repeal §5842(a). It is an enforcement policy. But Virginia does not independently require that engraving. Virginia asks whether the firearm is possessed in compliance with federal law.

And Virginia’s history makes a narrow reading of that phrase harder to justify. The Commonwealth once maintained its own SBR/SBS registration system, intentionally eliminated it, and later chose federal compliance as the test for civilian possession.

So consider the narrow hypothetical:

A Virginia resident is otherwise lawful to possess firearms, is unquestionably protected by the federal injunction, has an existing commercially manufactured firearm with its original serial number intact, and possesses it in an SBR/SBS configuration without a Form 1, NFRTR registration, or additional NFA maker engraving.

There is a very strong argument that §18.2-303.1 protects that possession.

Why?

Because Virginia chose to say:

“possessed in compliance with federal law”

Instead of:

“possessed only if registered under the NFA.”

Those are not the same sentence.

Could a Virginia prosecutor argue that federal statutes remaining technically “on the books” still defeat the exception? Sure. But they would have to explain why a Virginia court should read Form 1, NFRTR and engraving requirements into a criminal statute when the General Assembly didn't put those words there — particularly where the federal government is either judicially prohibited from enforcing the relevant provisions against the defendant or has expressly ceased enforcing them.

And if the criminal statute genuinely supports competing reasonable interpretations, Virginia’s rule of lenity becomes relevant as well.

The biggest caveat is that no published Virginia appellate decision has yet applied §18.2-303.1 to this exact post-2026 federal situation. So nobody should confuse “very strong statutory argument” with “Virginia Supreme Court already decided this.”

But the historical record matters:

Virginia once required its own registration.

Virginia repealed it.

Virginia subsequently chose federal compliance as the civilian exception.

Virginia never recreated its own Form 1/NFRTR/engraving requirements.


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

Virginia State Police Carry Round?

13 Upvotes

I read that the VA State Police are carrying a .357 SIG P320 and are the last state that is holding out on a non-9mm round at this point. Does anyone know what round they are issued? And if they plan on switching to 9mm in the near future?


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

The Great GAFS heist of 2026

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26 Upvotes

I know some of us use this site heavily after their sub closed.

So this is something to look out for if it turned out to be true


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

Dad left me this…

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So at weird moments I’ll find time to sort thru a box or section of stuff that was left to me by my Dad. Not much and the sentimental items have been moved aside and part of their new life.

Dad was a Marine. Shortly before his passing he bought a carbine from a dealer in Florida (I worked hard to get that bill of sale and info on that purchase) but I also have a bunch of ammo/accessories.

My understanding is I can sell the ammo legally privately? But also, how? This isn’t my wheelhouse and honestly, wouldn’t mind the stuff gone with relative ease on my part.

(Chesterfield)
Suggestions???

Two full 50-round boxes of Armscor .30 Carbine, 110-grain FMJ.
Two full 50-round boxes of PPU .30 Carbine, 110-grain soft point.
One full 50-round box of Aguila .30 Carbine, 110-grain FMJ.
One full 50-round bag of Georgia Arms .30 Carbine, 110-grain FMJ.
Two full 50-round Lake City boxes labeled “Ball Carbine, Caliber .30 M1.”
One wrapped bundle of Dominican Republic .30 Carbine ammunition.
Two loaded six-pocket .30 Carbine bandoliers with cardboard inserts.
Four straight carbine magazines.
Two curved carbine magazines.
Two canvas magazine pouches, one marked “HAMEL CO 1944.”
One cleaning kit with pouch, rods, brushes, and assorted tools.
Additional sling/webbing.


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

Gunsmith in nova

7 Upvotes

I have a stripped barrell nut/frame screw on a 2k11 and was wondering if y’all know any gunsmiths who can extract it.


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

Question Privately made suppressors

6 Upvotes

In light of recent news, there were a few questions I had about privately made suppressors relating to the recent law on privately made firearms.
Being that suppressors are considered firearms under the GCA, how does this effect that?


r/VAGuns • • 2d ago

Question SBR's in VA

41 Upvotes

So with the ATF's new policy changes to SBR's and SBS', would we still need a Form 4 or can we just throw a 14.5" upper and be good to go?

If I have read our current laws correctly, it just states that we need to follow NFA requirements, IE Form 4 registration, but now that there are no Form 4 requirements for SBR's does that mean VA doesn't require us to register them with the NFA?

You would still be in compliance which is what VA law states we need to do. At least until Richmond writes another restrictive law.


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

Post July 21 Form 4 for Factory SBR/SBS

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Has anyone had a Form 4 approved for a factory SBR/SBS that was purchased after the AWB injunction went into effect on July 21st?


r/VAGuns • • 2d ago

Feels weird

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118 Upvotes

Walking out with a suppressor with the 4473 in an hour feels weird.


r/VAGuns • • 1d ago

Need help choosing a suppressor and how to mount

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I'm new to the suppressor game and to be quite honest, it feels a bit overwhelming searching online for how to choose one and how to mount it. I really just need someone knowledgeable to break it down Barney style for me.

Here's my situation: I run 5.56, 7.62x39, and 6.5 CR and 6.5 Grendel.

I know that it's better to have one dedicated suppressor for just the 5.56 and then a .30 cal can for the 7.62 (AK's). Would that .30 cal can also work on the 6.5's? Or does each 6.5 need it's own dedicated suppressor as well?

For 5.56, I would like to be able to swap between rifles. I'd be using the 5.56 across a few different platforms- AR's, Tavor, and an AK (WBP Jack). I believe that a QD mount would be ideal here, but how does that work? Are the QD mounts proprietary to the suppressor brand?

I'm also assuming the QD mounts are not a one size fits all barrel, either, so how do I go about finding the right mount? Just make sure it matches the threads? I'm not afraid of taking the time and elbow grease to unscrew a direct thread if it makes things less complicated since there's multiple platforms involved. And worst case, I don't *have* to find one that could work across all of them, and just leave it on the AR since that's the one I primarily use.

Thanks for any help!


r/VAGuns • • 2d ago

Moving to VA

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I'll be moving to NoVA from a non-free state soon. I've read a few other threads about this same topic from a few months ago, but am confused with all the new law changes, injunction, and future cases on the court's dockets.

I'm thinking of bringing my AR, competition pistol, and ccw. I am planning on getting a VA ID asap so I can start the 30 day waiting period and a VA CCP.

Is there anything that I should prepare for or be aware of?


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

4473 hush puppy!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

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72 Upvotes

Copped the first ever 4473 can from my local FFL in SWVA 2.5hrs after the press release dropped! 😎🇺🇸


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

ATF Guidance just released for the 5th Circuit injunction

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r/VAGuns • • 2d ago

Private sale on suppressors?

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Question regarding the recent ATF guidance. I know we're still screwed when it comes to SBR/SBS creation and purchases, but what about already owned suppressors? I've been looking to sell one I don't want or need that was a Form 4 transfer earlier this year. What steps can I now take to sell it to someone here in the Commonwealth? Would I still need to do any eForm paperwork or would this be treated like a normal firearm that I can just do a private sale with?


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

Question 4473 Suppressor Shop

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Does anybody have any FFL locations that are doing just 4473s for suppressors? I think that the shop that is closest to me was still not doing it for fear of reprisals……

I’m in Fairfax County


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

Spammys next moves

32 Upvotes

We all know that they are pissed about the AWB injunction. They are going to shit bricks when SCOTUS rules general AW bans unconstitutional.

We know the Dems will institute some kind of expensive permitting law.

Im sure that the 4473 suppressors are giving them hemroids. Wonder if they will pass some law liem some of the other states where you need the NFA form to be state legal?


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

FYI- Freedom Outdoors in VA Beach is now doing 4473 suppressors.

25 Upvotes

My Allen Engineering AEM5 came in and they confirmed they are doing 4473s for suppressors.

In addition to the standard gun-buying stuff needed, they just need your GOA membership card or for you to login to the GOA site and show them your GOA member #.


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

Question How Long to Ship Concealed Carry License

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Hi, my concealed carry license was approved about three weeks ago. The email they sent me said that it was in the mail, but it somehow still has not arrived yet. Is this normal? Just wondering how long it took you guys to get yours and if I should contact the court clerk's office or not, kinda worried it's lost or something went wrong.


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

Can I SBR a pistol?

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Greetings,

What is the status on SBRing a pistol given the current laws in Virginia? Seems with the new assault weapons laws, the injunction, ATF determinations, I'm having a hard time determining where things currently stand. Can I expect to be able to SBR a pistol today/after paperwork is approved by the appropriate parties?


r/VAGuns • • 3d ago

Central VA FFLs doing 4473 suppressor sales

6 Upvotes

Various FFL searches do not seem to turn up much - who in central VA has started doing a suppressor sales with a 4473, and what are they requiring at purchase?


r/VAGuns • • 4d ago

Visiting Richmond area this weekend. Long shot: Anyone willing to let me try an M1 Garand?

42 Upvotes

hey everyone, I’m italian and currently in the Richmond area for the weekend. I’m a huge history enthusiast and it has always been a dream of mine to experience firing an M1 Garand.

I know it’s short notice and a long shot, but I wanted to reach out to the local community. If any proud M1 Garand owner is heading to a range around RVA this weekend and would be open to bringing it along, I would be extremely grateful.

I am more than happy to cover the cost of the ammo and to buy coffee or lunch and treat you with respect.

If you're willing to help a history ww2 fan cross this off their bucket list, please shoot me a DM! Thanks in advance, and stay safe.


r/VAGuns • • 4d ago

Politics CHP Denied due to Clerical Error in PWC Circuit Court

49 Upvotes

I applied for a CHP a couple of weeks ago and it was denied (Denial form states that I have an active Protective Order against me, and I was a Black female. Mind you, I'm an Asian male).

I went to the PWC Circuit court twice this week and I've asked the Sheriff deputy office and Juvenile/Domestic Court if I have an active Protective order for me and I'm clean. No records of any crime whatsoever. This clerical error almost made me a felon and it infuriates me so much because this could've turned sour real quick. I'm also pulling out $1500 for my own legal fees just to fix someone else's incompetence. Worst part is that no one will be held accountable for almost ruining someone's life. Just had to vent this frustration out.


r/VAGuns • • 4d ago

Question AR-10 Firing Pin Retaining Pin

4 Upvotes

Anywhere local in FFX/Loudon County I could pick one of these up? I fucked mine up this evening and was planning on going shooting this weekend but don't have a spare.

For reference - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022841817?pid=142200