Sin duda alguna Mariska es mucho más que Olivia Benson que la amo, más sin embargo verla en los emmy fue algo espectacular, me gustaría verla en otro tipo de personajes también ahora en su edad madura .

I know that SVU has been the Olivia Benson Show for a long period of time but I DID NOT expect it to be the way it is when I got to "Career Psychopath". I would love to remind her how she violated rules/regulations especially when herself or Stabler were involved.

Ugh.

I just watched this episode again and I couldn’t help but think how relevant it is to this day. You would think twenty something years later that things would have changed but they haven’t. With the current Cornell case going on I was really shocked to see how accurate it was to what happens to rape cases in today’s justice system. The public and the court are more focused on the victim and their actions rather than the accused. In this episode its a classic he said she said story; they both have two sides that tell very different versions of events, and Elliot and Olivia both disagree on who to believe. The victim’s sex life is immediately brought up, like the fact that she has many boyfriends even though he does too. They also say that her wearing sexy underwear shows that she met up with him intending to have sex. They argue that if she really was raped she would’ve gone right to the police instead of calling a taxi. The defense paints her as unstable, crazy, and unreliable. It ends without saying whether the jury finds him guilty or not guilty.
It kind of reminded me of season 6 episode 5 where the victim changes her story so many times to protect her real rapist who is her fathers boss, but by the time they put him on trial they find him not guilty due to her story having changed so much.

It feels like nothing has really changed since then. Nowadays rape is still damn near impossible to prove, and the victim seems to be the one on trial rather than the rapist. I think it says a lot about how we’ve progressed in the past twenty years in protecting and understanding rape survivors. A rape victim is promiscuous before or after, she is unreliable. A rape victim shows clear symptoms of ptsd afterwards, she’s unstable. Every single choice that the victim makes before and after is scrutinized, and even though we’ve made progress in understanding PTSD and the effects of sexual trauma it still isn’t recognized when it comes to prosecuting their rapists. Like everyone knows that it’s really common for victims to not go to the police in fear of being retraumatized, or not believed, or retaliated against, but people still say that if you didn’t go to the police and report it right away that must mean it never happened.

With the Cornell rapists, the victim didn’t realize she had been raped for several days (probably due to denial or shock), and they say that she had buyers remorse. She had sex willingly with two guys and got drunk and did ketamine so that means she’s a wh*re who deserved to be raped by all the other men that joined in who she didn’t consent to having sex with. There is a whole group of thousands of men who are intent on humiliating women who accuse any man of rape, no matter how clear the evidence is. They dig up your entire personal life and use anything they can to humiliate and embarrass you and try to convince everyone you are either a liar and it never happened, or it happened but you deserved it and no matter what, the rapist did nothing wrong. They focus more on how the rape costs the rapists reputation than what it costs the victim. As if it isn’t super rare for a rapist to actually be convicted no matter how much evidence is in the victims favor. Like as a man, you are so much more likely to be raped than to be ever accused of rape. At the end of the trial in the episode, Novak said to the jury something along the lines of, why would she put herself through all of this if she had been lying? And i think that sums it all up. I don’t think any sane person would lie just to endure so much humiliation, judgement, and trauma that comes with accusing someone of rape for the 1% chance that you might get justice.

I feel like SVU has done a really good job of showing how complicated and difficult it can be to actually charge and prosecute a rapist and what it’s like for the victims, and it’s just really sad to see that not much progress has been made all these years later. There is rarely ever a perfect victim, but the victims choices and actions and past are not what’s on trial. People still treat rape victims the same way they did twenty years ago. Like with the Cornell case, I was shocked to see how many men openly take the side of the rapists. I know that things like the manosphere and the incel bullshit has brought our society backwards a lot. But the fact that people are so comfortable to go online and harass victims and openly proclaim their support for rapists and pedophiles is just so insane to me. People used to get punished for saying stuff like that! I just feel so sad to see how little has changed. It feels like things may have even gotten worse in the past twenty years.

Just watched S22 E04 “Sightless in a Savage Land” for the first time and I think it’s my new favorite episode! Barba’s professional vendetta against Carisi hits an all time high. Carisi scrambles to uphold the law, and Barba follows every impulse he has in order to win the case. Even Fin and Rollins go behind Carisi. The cherry on top was the mischief Barba and Liv were concocting with just their looks.

i’ve been re-watching some of SVU and a few seasons before Bruno came (S22). They already had a case where they were with the Bronx as there was like a whole clean out after because that sergeant moldovan guy was dirty and then when Bruno comes in later, it sounds like he was with Bronx for a while before he got fired because he worked that deaf girl case That had been closed for 10 years.

Basically Bruno is also probably a long term SVU detective?

Yes I know it’s a tv show not everything is gonna line up very well.

I don’t really know where the question in this is. Just didn’t know if anyone else had noticed

it took me a couple months to get through s22– and about a year to get through seasons 18-22 🤦🏾‍♀️

*i really enjoyed s18 though and i think s19 as well. i think i just checked out when i started s18 but once i picked svu up again, i realized that i actually did enjoy that season!!*

now im wondering if it does get better from here. of course its preference based so im sure theres a lot of people who did enjoy the later seasons but idkk im not feeling it as much so far. i feel like everything is high profile cases now, no small personal cases if that makes sense. it’s always a fight with important government people.

I understand needing to write people off but this felt cheap and so permanent. He was a well written character with complexities and room for a lot more growth. He had good chemistry with the other characters and was just a genuinely interesting character to have. By making him a 2-time murderer they made it so he could never come back and just cut him so short.

I’m just annoyed about it

If you were in their friend/colleague group, whose side would you be on?

I’ve finally decided to explore further than season 1-12. Season 14 is testing me, Kim always turning up doesn’t help. What are the episodes past/during season 14 that you would consider must watches?

Just rewatching this episode and I get to the scene with Stone and Cassidy and it is sad to me because I would have loved to see these two interact more. I know everyone carries a torch for Cabot, Barba, and Novak but I always loved Stone more. I did actually like his very much stick to the rules and trying to be like his father Ben Stone. I loved also how his presence on the show was the one last true link in essence to the OG flagship show and cast. I always hope that the writers will one day introduce a detective on the squad who maybe is a long lost missing child of Mike Logan or one of Max Greevey's children. They for sure would be old enough to be on the squad.

Please give number and season!

Watching Chicago PD episode where Finn and Rollins come to help on a case and she's spouting profiles like she apart of the BAU. When did she become a criminal profiler?

I'm so glad another season of SVU hit Hulu because I was getting bored rewatching all the old ones for the umpteenth time.

I'm about halfway through the new season and I'm starting to realize that Olivia Benson is doing the legwork for all the investigations. The original captain never seemed to leave the office. I know it's a fake TV show, but I can't help worrying about the administration duties Olivia is likely neglecting....haha.

Am I the only one wondering when she manages all her boss tasks?? I feel like this would be a great opportunity for character development - wanting to be on the streets, working with victims, but having to stay back and hold down the fort.

Finalist for Munch/Benson segment: parents died of self inflicted means.

We're starting to get to the deeper segments so should make for some interesting and creative answers!

What do Cragen, Benson and Stabler have in common that doesn't apply to the rest of the group?

I dont like anybodys kid. Casting call requirement was to have a super punchable face. Victims treated their parents better . Sometimes I understand how people distance themselves from their own kids

Currently rewatching this because I forgot why Barba left.

Well now I remember and I'm angry again (I miss him)

This might be beyond the scope of this subreddit, but I thought I would ask in good faith.

During the almost 30 year franchise of this series (which I love and I am a BIG fan of), but also countless other shows, they have used child actors to show (sexual) abuse scenes frequently.

I am currently watching S26E20, and they are showing girls ages 6 - 10 being (mildly?) tortured with shock collars and treated like dogs.

My question is - even if you prime the children for these scenes, how do you make sure it doesn’t cause trauma? Because how people groom kids in real life would also be to normalize it, pretending to act, making them feel comfortable in their roles, etc.

I don’t know why I haven’t thought about this aspect more before, but all of a sudden all of the old episodes where they would also put children in positions where I realize - this could cause discomfort, regardless if it is a TV show, a local play, or what an abuser put together to get the child to cooperate.

I don’t have any opinion or judgement yet, because I do not know enough about the industry and the type of support these children are getting. However, I work in clinical psych, and it occurred to me that regardless if this is acting, and the children are well seasoned actors who have developed their talent from a young age - I think I have seen some actual real terrified looks on kids faces through the years on this show.

I’d love to hear more about how these children are being taken care of when they play in explicit scenes.

I am on a third rewatch. Technically I’m just jumping around because my brain won’t let me enjoy rewatching all the time. Anyways I just watch the episode where Bob Saget plays the IT guy where he implants the RFID chip right? Why he say “I’m just ahead of the game in 15 years everyone will have chips” BRO. 15 years later would be 2021 when please started the conspiracy of chips in covid shots. I know people have probably already said this but I just thought it was Hilarious. 😂

What do u guys think about season 10 episode 22 Zebras and how Dale turns out.Was he a victim of circumstance or was he just a maniac? In my own opinion I think it was kind of a mix of both where he was constantly ridiculed for his point of view and where he carried out those murders. I think the episode was meant to be kind of a plot twist.

I constantly have SVU on when I’m working, doing hobbies, cleaning etc etc … but I did not remember how absolutely terrible this episode is. I honestly don’t know what the story was about except some animal activist gets murdered, bc I was too distracted by the absolutely TERRIBLE writing. Between the Spanglish and the over-the-top NY accents, and the random side-quest characters, I couldn’t finish it! I looked over at my partner (also an SVU fanatic) and we were both like … how did this get out of the writer’s room?! I can’t imagine Mariska and company at the table read being like “yeah, this episode is great, can’t wait to film it!”
Does anyone else remember this episode being absolutely intolerable???