DON’T RECOMMEND 2K1 for FYE students!!!

[u/YEETAWAYLOL]

Evil class

[u/JoebobJr117]

2k1 is weird because it used to be very hard, and then it got progressively easier, and it sounds like now it’s hard again. Regardless, even at its easiest it’s not a class freshman should take before T2M, fill in the gaps with filler classes you will need to take later, the sophomore classes for ECE are designed to be taken together and it’s better that 2k1 and 2k2 are your hardest classes than you skipping ahead to harder stuff too early

[u/GapStock9843]

Not the worst thing ever, but yeah as an fye you should be trying to keep your gpa as high as possible at all costs so you have a better shot at getting into a competitive major

[u/dogwogogOnYT → u/GapStock9843]

I had my advisor meeting today, and I'm currently set to take PHYS272, MA265, and then some other less difficult courses like a 300-level gen-ed, EPICS121, and MFET 163. Thoughts? I'm hoping to go into ME, so 272 is a little frightening for the GPA.

[u/GapStock9843 → u/dogwogogOnYT]

272 is way better than 241 (the alternative). You have a lab to pad out your grade as opposed to just exams

[u/QuantumChaosXO → u/dogwogogOnYT]

Im a freshman in 272 rn, its really not that bad. First test was 12 mcq and honestly felt easy. Just had to know some basic concepts ans how to use the formula sheet. I'm also a CS major and through requirement stuff ended up here, so if I'm chilling you FYE people should be fine.

[u/Opposite-Hair-1273]

I took that shit fye its propoganda

[u/Decrypted13]

2k1 is where you learn to be a man

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/Decrypted13]

This guy knows

[u/YEETAWAYLOL → u/RevolutionaryMath971]

This guy never took 2k

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/YEETAWAYLOL]

But he knows

[u/SmartFork]

2k1 is not a bad class if you take the time to understand the new concepts. It’s good to take it in the spring bc it’s when all the IE and ME majors take it.

[u/RevolutionaryMath971]

Nah, ppl oversell it. Great class, great experience

[u/Wiley_Burner → u/RevolutionaryMath971]

https://giphy.com/gifs/YwoucObGFYL3b9RO6G

[u/YEETAWAYLOL → u/RevolutionaryMath971]

?

[u/ABR5796]

Be me

Take 2k1 over the summer

Profit

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/ABR5796]

2K2 over summer is much less torture than during the semester. 2K1 in spring + 2K2 summer

[u/sllabypaos]

2k1 is one of the easiest core ece classes. As an FYE students, you would most likely take it in the spring. As someone else said, this is when mech / ie students take it. As they generally are not too interested in ECE, I think it logically follows that either the tests become simpler (to maintain a reasonable average and passing rate), or the curve becomes larger (again to maintain a reasonable average and passing rate). Either way, it would be easier in the Spring so you should actually take it freshman year.

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/sllabypaos]

This. Ppl don't understand that ECE 2K1 isn't even that bad compared to the rest of ECE lmao. Wait till they hear about 440/437

[u/Superdeathrobot → u/RevolutionaryMath971]

437 

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/Superdeathrobot]

440

[u/Beginning-Depth5862]

I mean 2k1/2k7 fill in the 2 empty slots for next semester and idk what else to take. I wish I took cs159 this sem so I could take the python class for ece but im taking it concurrently so I literally have no clue what else to fill it in with (besides math but like double math at purdue really?)

[u/PriorSolid]

yeah especially now that ECE is full your gpa actually matters to even get accepted into it

[u/New_Lettuce7140 → u/PriorSolid]

Only FYE classes count towards the transfer GPA requirement unless they have changed it

[u/Wiley_Burner → u/New_Lettuce7140]

You need a EAI and GPA minimum.

[u/-Parou-]

If you have a good GPA from fall, definitely take it in spring. opens up more options later

[u/Wiley_Burner]

Yeah I dunno why people disliked my comment there.

I feel like people are going insane… if you are trying to maximize your GPA so you can T2M, doing 2k1 is suicide.

[u/Spiritual-Vacation75 → u/Wiley_Burner]

Yeah that’s a completely valid take backed by statistics. The existence of exceptions doesn’t make it right to recommend it to a randomly selected student lol

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/Spiritual-Vacation75]

What no one understands is that it's a Purdue reddit lore/tradition to recommend ECE 2K1 every time someone asks for a course recommendation, it's a joke. Search this reddit

[u/Wiley_Burner → u/RevolutionaryMath971]

Stupid “tradition” (is it a tradition when nobody does it?) when it can fuck people over fr

[u/RevolutionaryMath971 → u/Wiley_Burner]

You have not been on this earth enough to know, young child

[u/Parking-Substance-59]

Bro when I took it one of the questions in the exam was literally two current sources one was 1 amp the other was 2 amps joining into one wire and it asked how many amps were in that wire. It was literally 1+2. If 2k1 is genuinely that bad for you then dont do ECE because 2k2 is gonna fry you

[u/YEETAWAYLOL → u/Parking-Substance-59]

When did you take it?

[u/Pleasant-Ad7452]

Tske 2k1 if u can with other easy classes in fye if u can!!

[u/Schmolik64]

Delaying 2k1 delays taking other ECE courses.

[u/Sensetsu]

Idk if you're a freshman who's considering doing advanced courses, you'll probably at least do decently in 2k1 + 2k7

[u/minecon1776]

Stop with the fearmongering though, it only becomes a self fulfilling prophecy when all students going into the class think its impossible. I did it FYE alongside ma 261 and phys 272 and engr 132 and still have a 4.0. Was it a lot of work? Yes. Was it also possible? Also yes

[u/Anonymously-Me_]

Idk what the consensus is about the difficulty of 2k1 during Sp24 but I took it that semester while in FYE with 2k7, ENGR162, MA262, ME270, MFET163, and some 1 credit course and I got an A+ in both 2k1 and 2k7 but that's probably just because I already learned much of the material in Phys C E&M in high school. I'm an ME.

If I took that course load without prior insight into the material I don't know how it would've turned out, but I also don't think the concepts in any class are particularly difficult so long as one knows the formula of understanding and holds the diligence to keep asking why why why until they get to the fundamental physics behind it all.

I was a 4.0 student for 4 semesters taking max credits and the only rule you need to follow to produce similar results (assuming already a sound physical and mental state) is to truly ask yourself if you actually know what you're talking about when you think you've studied up on a subject or if you've just skimmed your way into the illusion of expertise.

If someone spouts even some basic equation like V=IR but can't describe in fine detail how electrons and atoms act in a battery, wire, and resistor circuit to produce current, or more fundamentally how the electric fields of charged particles arranged in this initial state somehow gives rise to this thing we call the flow of electricity, they might as well be damned.

Do most students these days know what electricity fundamentally is? All the various ways it can manifest based on that fundamental definition? Why it is defined that way, why is that model useful, what predictions can we make from it? Why we decided that way of thinking of things is useful? How does it metacontextually make sense in the ecosystem of physical models?

The belief that electricity is the flow of electrons is one of the many facades of understanding that linger when one doesn't ask such questions. Believe it or not, that statement is not quite robust. Did you know that positive ion flow is also a form of electricity that occurs in circuits that look very different from the ones you typically learn about?

Isn't that strange, how the presumption that electricity is the flow of electrons, something even a teacher or professor might say, is an incomplete picture that leaves the student susceptible to many edge cases in which this surface level model utterly fails to make sense of the world because it's an unexamined, flawed, and abstract "theorem" that only holds true with many hidden assumptions?

Good studying is not about memorizing all the strange formulas, rules, and phenomena that arise in a complex world and how they apply in all these different situations. It's about scrutinizing why the formula exists, what assumptions it makes, and most importantly, retracing the steps of how all the scientists and physicists and mathematicians before you worked their way to this point. Don't seek to stare at the abstract numbers and roman numerals and try to make sense of what scales with and correlates with what at a surface level, seek to understand the entire theorem behind it, the actual line of reasoning, tracing the reasons and chain of logic all the way down to the bare axioms of reality. You can't understand a phone by tapping the screen all over and noticing the surface level outputs to your inputs, you need to deconstruct it to realize all of its internal workings to make truly accurate predictions of its behavior in novel situations.

In summary, understanding is when you deconstruct a concept down so thoroughly, you rip it into its bare parts, and make sense of how all these basic pieces fit together to form something complex and amazing that can predict interesting things. If you do that and don't miss an exam or anything you'll probably do well in most classes.

[u/Wiley_Burner → u/Anonymously-Me_]

Spring 24 was cakewalk. Al Othman

[u/Anonymously-Me_ → u/Wiley_Burner]

I personally had Jie Zhu as my lecturer and I remember test averages being on average mid-60%, but the curve mightve been generous that year, who knows. Regardless of the curve though, I think the exam averages were something like this: Ex1 ~66%, Ex2 ~55%, Ex3 ~70%. My raw exam average was 97.4% I dont think 2k1 was exactly a cakewalk that semester

[u/Ok_Profession_4146 → u/Anonymously-Me_]

So like do you think if i got a 5 on Ap physics E&M and like self learning 2k1 itd be light?

[u/Anonymously-Me_ → u/Ok_Profession_4146]

definitely took time to learn things but the start of the course was mostly review so it was kinda light but the latter half is some new and more complex concepts so you have to actually learn some stuff by the end. I think it's very achievable to get an A with that background but its not the lightest thing in the world

[u/Forsaken_Alps_4421]

lol that’s me doing the recommendation

How was the average?  Genuinely though, I still think 2nd sem FYE is still best for 2k1. First it pushes ahead in the 2k1, 2k2 sequence. Second Spring semester is known to be easier since so many non-ECEs do it. Third your FYE semester is probably the lightest semester you will have compared to ECE. Last, I will be honest 2k1 is simple stuff compared to what’s ahead in terms of expected workload 👀 

[u/Wiley_Burner → u/Forsaken_Alps_4421]

Well the person in the picture wasn’t in ECE, which is why I wouldn’t recommend it

If you’re in ECE, do ECE classes. If you’re battling to be the 15% that gets accepted to ME or aero, then don’t tank your GPA.

[u/nihaowoshisai]

Why not tho? If u came in with tons of credits and have nothing else to do do u js take 13 credits as a freshman? Idts. I think its better to take it in fye and if u dont pass or think ur not gonna pass drop and be on schedule like others.

[u/YEETAWAYLOL → u/nihaowoshisai]

GPA requirement for T2M

[u/nihaowoshisai → u/YEETAWAYLOL]

I dont think u read it right

[u/YEETAWAYLOL → u/nihaowoshisai]

I did

[u/Fuexfollets]

Wait until you hear about 2k2. Imo, 2k1 is free by comparison