r/PoursTea • u/Muted_Net9076 • 1h ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø Trump: "We will pass a truly great healthcare plan that will stop all payments to big insurance companies."
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One year to the end of his second term, with the control of Whitehouse and Congress, he is still talking about a concept of healthcare plan. With midterms potentially bringing the change of control in the House, it will be hard to get a healthcare plan.
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u/Repulsive_Note_4209 1h ago
Does he understand how insurance works ?
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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 1h ago edited 1h ago
He might be hinting at something I have seen from far-right Republicans online and from the most far-right person in my family, my step father.
The idea for healthcare reform that I have seen bubbling around on the far-right is the abolition of all health insurance. Not just Medicare and Medicaid, but private health insurance also. Their thinking is that this will force health care providers to reduce their prices to something that people can afford.
The question I ask then is, "Okay, let's say your plan works and they reduce prices. What happens if I need life saving surgery and they've cut the price from $400,000 down to only $80,000, but I still don't have the $80,000. What do I do then?"
"Get a loan from the bank or borrow it from family members."
"What if a bank won't loan me the money and my family members can't either?"
"Well then just start a Go Fund Me."
"What if I start a Go Fund Me, but it doesn't meet the amount or it doesn't meet the amount in time?"
"Then it will be like anything else you want but can't afford. You don't get to have it."
So yeah, I'm not an expert but I think that's the far-right's endgame for healthcare.
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u/Jaegons 46m ago
I refuse to believe he would do that, given that any random insurance company could literally wire him a measly $1m and own him for the decision.
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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 41m ago
That's the thing I argued dirwctly with my step father about. "It's absolutely wild to me that a self-identified lifelong conservative Republican would be in favor of outlawing a multi-billion dollar industry."
"I don't care. Tired of paying for other people's healthcare."
Says the 66 year old, 280 pound severe diabetic.
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u/barqySpaniel 12m ago
Is the step father on Medicare? Then āweā are subsidizing his coverage. He should be more thankful.
In all honesty, I donāt dig paying taxes. Nobody does. But I also donāt dig people being made destitute for necessary medical care. Seems like there should be a better way. And privatization is hardly the answer given how privatization has made emergency rooms vastly more expensive (cough profitable)
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u/Schwarz_Is_With_You 47m ago
So, their Healthcare plan is no health care? That sounds like one of their plans
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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 44m ago
No health care for anyone who can't pay out of pocket, and no one paying for anyone else's healthcare in any way.
That seems to be their ideal fantasy utopia situation.
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u/periwinkle_caravan 30m ago
As a Canadian this sounds like an excellent policy for the US to implement.
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u/Investigator_Pedant 1h ago
No, but that wont stop him from grifting. He's already taking little kids money and using it to dump bad stocks, so now I feel like he will create his own insurance (like he made Trump Phone) where people give 1/3 of their pre-tax paycheck to a big insurance subsidy, probably named "America Insurance" or some BS. Bonus, this fat orange shitdiaper can say people can't call it Artificial intelligence because America Insurance is the new "AI." He/His family invests in America Insurance, and he/they take ownership in it. Grift + stupid/cult people = $$$
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u/Switchmisty9 1h ago
No, he definitely doesnāt. He has never once had to fill out health insurance paperwork. He has never stopped to consider what his deductible was. He has never done anything like that for himselfā¦.and I do not expect him to get it at all.
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u/Standard-Contest-949 1h ago
Before midterms get ready for a tidal wave of bullshit and promises that he hasnāt kept already.
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u/Schwarz_Is_With_You 38m ago
2 weeks from now, we'll give you 5k, Healthcare, social security reform, end the Iran war, etc. Yeah, plenty they can lie about
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u/Specific_Berry6496 1h ago
And they cheer because they donāt know what any of it means.
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u/Smart-Firefighter87 1h ago
All those people behind him have to be paid actors
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u/DragonDanzZ 1h ago
And they proppaly dont even get their payment right after the comedy show is over
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u/RoomExciting1296 1h ago
It would be fascinating to see the data of how many of those people seen behind him in tv appearances are payed actors and how many of them have gotten stiffed.
Pedophile in chief had a track record of not paying people for work they have done for him.
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u/kingcalifornia Mister Tea šµ 1h ago
Or, half of his country is insane / has a radically different perspective on life / is woefully ignorant
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u/thatmanwithwhat 9m ago
Naw, not paid actors remember that one guy actively doing Dumpy's motions behind him?
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u/Oalka 1h ago
He will do jack and shit. He's had a decade in power or at least in control of the Republican party and they've come up with nothing.
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u/Existing-One-8980 9m ago
He has the house, the senate and the Supreme Court, and he won't do a damn thing to help people. Why did these idiots elect a raging narcissist? Ugh. I hate this timeline.
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u/WillingActuator6268 1h ago
Over a decade and his healthcare plan is still 2 weeks away. How dumb can anyone be to buy this garbage...
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u/ultraspinacle 1h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/0G4qGj5lUStJyr0RD9
āTwo weeks, two weeksā hahah, you sound like a parrot thereā¦..
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u/Prestigious-Onion161 1h ago
Blah blah blah, lie, exaggeration, untruth, I smell very strongly, blah blah blah, lie, lie, blah blah, Iāve fallen and I canāt get up, blah blah blah ā¦
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u/Ur-in-a-tor Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup š« 1h ago
He said this same a few years ago, and then it was coming in two weeks.
Do Americans love being lied to and being abused, or what on earth is going on in there?
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u/ObjectGlad6997 1h ago
Yes they do. Whatever this Muppet says , you can bet the truth is the exact opposite.
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u/Cadillacwalt 1h ago
If only the baboon controlled all branches of government. :/
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u/2Blueify 1h ago
He does but he also doesn't. Doesn't have 2/3rds majority to actually get things done.
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u/jhamels 1h ago
Good thing in Congress he only needs a simple majority which is exactly what the Republicans have had for two years. But trust me bro give the republicans two more years then Trump will finally start fixing things instead of raising the price of literally everything.
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u/2Blueify 1h ago
No. He needs 2/3rds. Especially for a healthcare bill.
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u/jhamels 1h ago
Thatās not how Congress works when it comes to bills, even bills relating to healthcare. Youāre thinking of Amendments to the constitution. Stay in school man.
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u/Schwarz_Is_With_You 21m ago
Jhamels is right. Three orange menace can pass any bill he wants right now, as no republican will go against him. Amendments require 2/3 to pass in house and senate, and also to be ratified by 38 states. These are right to assemble (against the government), etc and we only have 27 of them in 250 years. And 2 of them were about prohibition, so 25, one every decade, on average. It's sad, it wasn't meant to be that difficult to change the constitution, afterall, we have changed so much in that time. There were no roads, indoor plumbing, HVAC, internet, you know, things that now are seen as necessities. Do I think government should control all of our everyday lives, no. But with natural monopolies like gas/electric/cable, they should. And if they aren't, the people at the top of those companies should be liable for prosecution if neglect is found to be the cause of any disasters. Real consequences for these ceos
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u/Violet-Sumire 33m ago
He could enact a healthcare plan right this moment, just like Obama did. If we wanted to strengthen and protect the healthcare plan then we could amend the constitution. Amending the constitution would make it incredibly hard to dismantle it.
Trump had two years to do anything positive. Him saying this now is a clear sign of a grift. He could totally do it, he just doesnāt.
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u/AnytimeSunshine 1h ago
Do people exist that are insane enough to believe anything he says anymore? I would be so ashamed to have this putrid human being my representative. I have met Americans, you have pride..... Does he make you proud?
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u/Schwarz_Is_With_You 39m ago
No. He is perhaps the dumbest (with a b), most vile person. He lies constantly, you can tell when he's lying because he's talking. And he has no plans, he's doing whatever Putun and Netanyahu say, sanctioning the icc? I never voted for him, or any republican for president ever. The party just rolls over for big business.
Since 2012/2014, I've been saying the biggest issue with American politics is citizens united, because corporations aren't people. They have different interests, they shouldn't interfere with politics. But alas, the right leaning supreme court ratified it, making it more difficult to get rid of. So we're petty much cooked here, wife is working on a degree to be more beneficial if we have to move abroad.
But definitely not proud, even Biden was a problem, but that's cognitive decline (which the orange menace has even worse). I still can't believe it's only been not even 2 years, feels like 5-6.
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u/Verdugo8750 54m ago
MF has held office for 6yrs and hasnāt presented shit but āconcepts of a planā.
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u/Existing-One-8980 12m ago
Remember when one of his bimbos handed Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes a giant binder that was supposed to be the healthcare plan, but it turned out to be a big fat nothing? Peppridge Farm remembers.
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u/userousnameous 59m ago
Do you think the rubes have finally understood that when he makes a statement, there is literally nothing behind it -- just the words at that moment -- no work, no analysis, no figuring it out.. just literally testing a sentence for applause?
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u/butwhywedothis 52m ago
I heard Trump can just put his hand on peopleās body and it can cure them from any illness. Usually cult leaders have that kind of power. The way things are going in America, maybe in future people can buy Trump Healthcare subscription and stand in line in front of Mar-a-Lago to be touched by Trump.
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u/VanGoghInTrainers 51m ago
I don't want that man's tiny hands anywhere near me. I don't care what it promises to cure. š¬
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u/joseph5419 1h ago
Was that lie number 29,846 or was he already in the upper 30 thousand lies? š š¤” š¤
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u/vesselofwords 1h ago
āā¦and instead funnel the payments directly into my familyās accountsā is the only way he even gives it a thought
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u/MiddleAgedBastard 1h ago
An entire presidency, person(?), and political movement based on constant, low-level marketing and zero substance. It's like watching a demented late night shopping channel.
Ratcheting up the desperation.
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u/Dr-flange 47m ago
I have the sound offā¦.itās easier that way. Whatās he bullshitting about today?
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u/SampleNo471 30m ago
We will have great healhcare, greatest healhcare ever. There was no better healthcare in the history of healthcare. Unbelivable healhcare.
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u/SiteTall 1h ago
Keeep count: HOW MANY TIMES has he promised something like that????? 100? 1000? 100,000?
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u/Cute_Win_386 1h ago
Okay. Do it before the election. Republicans control all 3 required bodies. Democrats won't vote against that.
If Republicans were amenable to such a plan, one would have passed in 1993.
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u/Born-Hospital-2572 1h ago
Heās been talking about the great plan for like 12 years. It gets votes and thatās the end of that. Butā¦. MAGA always believes him.
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u/ThulfWaatu 43m ago
Classic populism.
Just say whatever ppl want to hear. If ppl ask about it later, claim the enemies have been stopping you from fulfilling the promise made.Ā Press all the buttons at once.
Works like a charm.
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u/Aware-Explanation879 33m ago
Okay, that is any easy phrase to say but I want to hear the plan. How exactly will we get access to healthcare? I can see tRump having us just pay per treatment like we are ordering from McDonalds or tRump makes another "tRump card" for medicine.
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u/ForgotToCarryTheOne 1h ago
If the big insurance companies own the Democrats, shouldnāt republicans be going all Luigi on their asses or havenāt they been given any specific instructions yet?
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u/nogoodnamesarleft 1h ago
If he was smart and had no scruples he would start Trump-surance. It will offer the lowest* rates for the greatest** coverage ever, just sign up and if you get a life threatening condition you wont have to worry about it eventually. Oh, and we know he has no scruples
*lowest being incredibly high compared to other companies
**meaning everything gets denied
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u/butwhywedothis 53m ago
I heard Trump can just put his hand on peopleās body and it can cure them from any illness. Usually cult leaders have that kind of power. The way things are going in America, maybe in future people can buy Trump Healthcare subscription and stand in line in front of Mar-a-Lago to be touched by Trump.
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u/TheRealGageEndal 38m ago
This is great. No more big insurance and Medicare for all. Finally he embraces socialism.
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u/matthell71 18m ago
Heās been saying this since 2015 on his first campaign. And those drug prices were coming down 1500% maybe this time he means it.
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u/Few-Pace-4234 1m ago
So this is the healthcare plan that heās been talking about since taking office the first time? Itās taken him 10+ years to come up with this???? Unbelievable!
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u/MinimumSoftware5934 0m ago
Is this a replay of his 2016 Presidential Campaign. It's been over 10 years without out one plan actually put forward.
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u/deegandnb 38m ago
Im Aussie, so curious.. if he pulled it off and gave Americans an awesome healthcare plan, how would it be received?
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u/1inDchamber 1h ago