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NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani defends Rep. Ilhan Omar: "The path to citizenship should not be weaponized against anyone for disagreeing with the White House"
Anyone who's ever heard John Oliver talk about his path to citizenship, assisted as he was by lawyers for his corporate employers of the time, understands that the path to U.S. citizenship is a minefield that seems to have been designed to make it near impossible for anyone to reach the finish line.
I mean, that's an exageration since clearly many do get there. But it's seriously enligthening to consider how many twists and turns his path had, as an English-speaking white man who already had a secure job making lots and lots of money. And then you start to think how it must be very different for people who don't have his privilege.
And then you consider how Ilhan Omar was a literal child when she reached U.S. shores as a refugee.
I'm glad Mamdani lent his support. But the racism inherent to going after Omar was clear enough already.
Iâll have to check it out because I went through the process. Never hired a lawyer and it was relatively easy, I filled all the forms myself and went to the interview myself. I specifically remember studying the book and when I showed up to the interview they guy asked me what I did for a living and my educational background. That was the only thing he asked then he gave me citizenship.
Itâs almost like thatâs because the path to citizenship SHOULD be difficult and isnât actually a racist process. Hence why an English speaking white male with a job had difficulty.
Maybe one day you can learn how to think deeper than surface level. Nobody said immigrants canât create jobs or build housesâŠ.. I said it should be difficult to obtain citizenship so that the immigrants who bring that value are allowed in and the ones who donât arenât. You think jobs and houses just appear magically when someone steps foot over the border? You think there is no lag in markets adjusting? Houses spring out of the ground and land mass doubles? Are you too dense to realize land is finite, and the less of it that is available, the more expensive housing becomes? You think in addition to that, simply having more demand than supply inflates housing prices too? You think maybe having 10 people applying for the same job instead of 5 might drive that wage down? Use some brain power toward actual thought instead of dedicating all 100% of it to being a pretentious sarcastic ass
Yeah, itâs almost like companies like Blackrock and Blackstone shouldnât be buying up all the houses that individuals want to buy for their families and driving up the cost of houses making it difficult for young people to start their families. Stop blaming immigrants and use your brain. Greedy rich people are hurting Americans. Not poor people trying to have a better life.
Youre thinking of a different number. Legal immigrants is anyone who moves to another country for the purpose of living there. Legal immigrants include green card holders, some visas (ones without specific time limits), refugees/asylum seekers, etc.
In FY 2024, ~1.4 million people were granted green cards (around half were already here through other means like asylum and visa) and ~100,000 asylum applications were accepted. So about 1.5 million new permanent immigrants into the US. Compare that to the ~800,000 naturalized in the same time. (Numbers from Office of Homeland Security)
For naturalization you must be a permanent legal resident and live here 5 years, be married to a citizen and live with them for 3 years, or serve in the military for 1 year. (USCIS)
Why should an immigration enforcement agency be looking into a US Citizen's finances and not one of the other 23 agencies we have that are geared towards that?
Dude, your guys has made $3 bil since in office. What financial red flags are you not seeing? Of course Iâm clapping when the felon was raided after that traitor stockpiled tons (TONS!) of classified materials that incriminated him in Mar a lago. I hope his family and all other criminals in this administration also get raided and end up in jail.
Your guy was storing classified documents in a bathroom after he left the presidency following his attempt at an insurrection.
The bathroom at his large hotel frequented by known Russian agents, in an unlocked easily accessible room. A clear and present violation of the espionage act.
You mean the investigations that have turned up nothing? I think the better question is why are you ok with constantly wasting government resources on some race bait?
Isnât it crazy that some bot on twitter can say âTim Walz drinks horse semen!â Or âOmar effs her brother!â And maga will be convinced itâs true, but then you tell them âthe guy that you simp for is listed thousands of times in a report detailing a giant pedophile sex ringâ and theyâre like âyou have no proof!â
We all know what this is. Even the ones who hide behind their chants of "follow the law".
If you want my opinion, we should hold trump and his entire family, and all his close associates to the standard of accountability they're promoting here. And deport them to Somalia, or really anywhere that would be willing to take them.
Isnât that what they tried to do before the 2024 election though?
Iâm not a fan of Trump, but it seems pretty obvious that they looked every single way to get him with the legal system.
Itâs not shocking that heâs going to turn around and do the same thing. The precedent has been set. The new rules of engagement are clear, and this is what weâll be dealing with whenever the party control flips.
The future is now. And itâs not bright (by any standard of the word).
Right. So, letâs talk, then about what the state of New York found.
So far, we have 34 counts of Felony falsifying business records. The statues have a suggested sentence of 1.75-4 years, per count.Â
Now, the judge, did not sentence him, yet, because Trump got to use his campaign as a screen.
Trump cannot appeal yet, because he doesnât have a sentence. But, if we were to get Trump sentenced, this is a state matter. Appeal can take several months to years, he SHOULD be in prison, until the appeal is done.
Thats what the law says.
Also the Federal Case that Canon mishandled in a way that should be a sedition charge, was being appealed, and then the documents case disappeared because the AG office wouldnât pursue their own boss.
 Now, if you would like, to produce some more Lala land bullshit rebuttal, just remember, I have facts and God on my side, and you have an orange man with a shit filled mouth and a shit filled diaper you can suckle on.
That's a bullshit conservative narrative repeated ad nauseam (because you heard some grifter saying it) that doesn't make the slightest sense if you understand how anything works.
Right. Iâm aware of that. And itâs not even my contention that DJT is innocent of these charges.
But if you were capable of producing a single shred of critical thinking, you would be able to look at this case in question and realize that these charges are exceedingly rare, and in some ways, wholly unprecedented.
But honestly, I donât think you are capable, and even if you were, I donât think youâd care. Because you already made your mind up, despite whatever the facts may be. And nothing will change that, because your biases have been affirmed and you believe that youâre âon the right side of historyâ, so anything that âyour sideâ does is righteous and justified. Kind of like âthe ends justifies the meansâ.
And again, I literally hate Trump and believe his presidencies have been some of the worst things to happen to America. If I liked the guy, I donât know why I would lie about it. But your brain has sunk SOOO deep into the hivemind that you have become completely blind and oblivious to nuance, and in turn, truth.
But hey, you got God on your side, right? So keep fighting the good fight, regardless of the truth, the facts, and the cost. Every war worth fighting has some collateral damage, am I right? https://giphy.com/gifs/ivPIBfvGPhKDFLz5wj
Wait, wait a second, YOUR RIGHT, it IS unprecedented that the FORMER POTUS was so corrupt and in such illegal behavior, that he should have been held to the highest standards, because if we did not hold the POTUS to a standard than we cannot hold anyone to a standard and it might as well be the purge, instead.
But, Iâve been thinking critically about the state of our union since Bush v Gore, because I was 8 and told that my vote doesnât get to count and that bothered me. What I learned since then is that the system is corrupt and the swamp is real, but Republicans have been the center of that corruption since Reagan.
Do me a favor, Princess, go shine your daddyâs tiny mushroom with your lips the way he likes.
Lmfao⊠better check your facts. You were almost there. Do a little more digging and youâll see why that has all essentially fallen flat. Maybe ask god to help since heâs on your side. Maybe he can give you the gift of logic for bared of just emotion. Better late than never
I guess Iâm a glutton for punishment. Not only am I a downvote magnet (for trying to be objective, btw), but I also go back and forth with people who have absolutely zero interest in engaging in good faith.
Donât try to reason with these people. Trump bad. Anyone who opposes Trump good. Anything people who oppose Trump do is acceptable and they are without sin. I also donât like Trump but itâs exhausting to listen to these self righteous Redditors pretend to have morals.
I do agree on principle and I fully agree in practice that we should have a high scrutiny for all politicians democrat or republican. Bc there are some absolutely terrible people on either end of the spectrum.
But on the other side of things, I genuinely cannot remember the last thing Trump did that has positively impacted my life. And every decision he does make has essentially ass fucked me and millions of other Americans. So when I hear his name, I do tend to have a bit of a guttural internal reaction. And my experience tells me anything with his name attached is bad news, since he has proved time and time again that he values his own personal interests at the expense of everything else.
So essentially, I personally believe that all politicians can be bad. But anything with Trumpâs hand in it will make me automatically suspect of it simply due to his track record.
Couldnât agree more. The whole âwhen their team does it, itâs evil/fascist/literal Nazis, but when our team does it, itâs righteous/deserved/the âright side of historyâ!â -approach is exhausting.
I swear there must be very few things as isolating and alienating as being someone on the left who can appreciate nuance.
Honestly, when I realized just how many people make all of their decisions based on only their feelings, it has made seriously question democracy. Especially now that we have social media and algorithms that feed on our outrage, Iâm not certain that the general public should be responsible for making adult decisions. (I mean, this is precisely why we have DJT in office, after all. Not the only reason, obviously, but definitely one of the prime reasons- if not the prime reason.)
Well said. A lot of the uninformed and emotional people whose vote counts just as much as the most rational and well informed persons does. Itâs wild to see the cognitive dissonance from such large groups of people. Very discouraging. Unfortunately, that is still the lesser of two evils. Two uninformed groups of people using one anotherâs representatives to hold the others in check is still better than letting a bunch of rich powerful people decide for themselves. (Not that a fair amount of that doesnât go on behind the curtain, but at least right now they have to hide it)
It should be noted that the multiple investigations into her started while Biden was president so this warrant execution was the culmination of quite a bit of investigative work
Ilhan Omar is accused of committing immigration fraud and potentially illegal money laundering. Her problems have nothing to do with disagreeing with the White House. If she broke the law, she needs to pay the price! What do democrats say? Oh, yeah! No one is above the law! Eat it!!
You are right, no one is above the law. So what is the evidence she committed either of these things? I see a ton of republican talking heads repeating these over and over with little to no proof. And why did the federal government, specifically orange manâs thugs try to prosecute her..,oh right, because of her comments about the orange manâŠ.seriously, you sheep are gullibleâŠ.
Hint. Iâll offer you some help. The immigration fraud was from some anonymous post on a forumâŠ.great basis for an investigation..
The illegal money laundering is guess what, not proven whatsoever. You are somehow combining trumps rant about Somalis in Minnesota with the financial disclosure for hr and her husband, of which she was cleared by a congressional office.
Either way though. You are right. Investigate EVERYONE. Letâs see which party comes out cleaner. Both of them will have dirty people for sure. But hint, it wonât be the democrats filling out the corrupt numbers as high as the âgood olâ boysâ
I hate Nancy Pelosi. Letâs do it. I hate the old guard on both sides of the aisle especially. If I have to knock down a few of my own party for their crimes, so be it. The republican side will be empty when we are done
Letâs make all of Stephen Nosferatuâs evil rules apply retroactively to his own family, shall we? Then we can deport his rotten carcass of a soul back to Belarus or Congo or wherever.
Of course he does; she's one of them. And I just love how Mr. President made a few thousand dollar booking error in his finances, and he becomes a felon, but the second a Democrat, a muzlim women Democrat makes a million dollar "booking error", it's fine. đ€Ł
Thank god she can't run for president! Having a criminal as a commander in chief just seems really problematic and a poor decision for the long term health of our nation.
Correct. Having a real criminal in power would be detrimental, but I don't think it would be as bad as having a Democrat; I mean look at the top ten states with the highest cost of living. Nearly all of them are ran Democrats.
Look at the top 10 states with the worst education outcomes, highest poverty rates, lowest median wages, lowest life expectancies, highest child mortality rates, highest maternal mortality rates... they're mostly Republican-led states.
No. He's definitely the black bucket, white bucket, pile on the floor that he can't understand bc they're gray type guy. Always self-righteousness with these pricks too.
BS according to whom? He was convicted by a jury that had to be agreed on by the prosecution and the defense.
The prosecution agreed to the evidence. Anything they didn't agree with would either have been thrown out for lacking merit, or kept because the claim of inadmissibility was determined to be false.
That happens on both sides bud
Fascism yet youâre able to freely chat about how much the government sucks and you want people offâed. If the govt want to truly find everyone they donât like on the internet, they have the means to do so
Thatâs not what fascism is. Fascism is the merging of state and corporate power. Which⊠look around. Weâve got CEOs and corporate leaders in the halls of power.
Is that what fascism is nowadays? So every country is fascists because if you believe for one second any western nation is not controlled by corporations, thatâs delusional
Thatâs what fascism has always been, based on the leaders that literally created the political ideology saying it.
And no, not all western nations are controlled by corporations. All of them are uncomfortably close and have serious problems, but not every country has unelected and unaccountable people like Elon Musk canceling programs voted on by elected representatives and real estate moguls like the presidentâs son in law negotiating with nations weâre at war with about things he has a personal financial stake in.
Idk what definition youâre looking at but corporations controlling the govt is not fascism
The government controls everything and answers to no one.
Although you may be referring to when corporations cooperate with such govts because itâs beneficial to them for survival
Maybe you mean corporatocrocy or corporatism which in all honesty, did not know existed until just looking it up
Okay Mr. Lawbreaker. Iâm sure youâve broken laws and never had anybody come after you. Crossed a street without a crosswalk? Then Iâll say the same to you: if you donât wanna follow the laws donât come here (even if you were born here apparently). Use your thinking cap buddy, laws arenât morals.
Ever have a drink before 21? Ever got behind the wheel after a drink (even if not intoxicated)? Yeah shush youâve broken laws just like everybody else. Just law argument is something you should look into as well, but frankly Iâm positive that youâre ONLY arguing this because youâve never had to struggle and you think you earned everything you have. I canât win against that level of delusion so letâs just agree to go our separate ways. You can go live in your delusion and Iâll be out here with the rest of humanity trying to fix what you and everyone else voted to happen.
I didnât have my first drink until 29
And that goes without saying that Iâve never gotten behind the wheel after a drink
So again, wrong
Struggle? Donât pretend you had struggles youâre whole life
Not a complement. Abstaining from alcohol completely your entire life is reasonable and even respectable. Not having your first drink until 29 demonstrates either a pathetic lack of self-professed conviction, or more likely, a brutally obvious social ineptitude. Based on your comments, I'm going to assume that it is the latter.
Okay man than congratulations. Youâre one of the people who gets everything handed to you and still chooses to keep it for only themselves. You might think I canât argue but this isnât an argument. Just a reminder that the rest of us know people like you are racist and bigoted. Iâm sure the next Klan meeting would love to hear about how you âowned the libs on Reddit.â That good makes it pretty hard to see everyone pointing their pitchforks and torches at you doesnât it?
I wish everything was handed to me. Then I wouldnât have to work or do anything and I can just stay home and play games all day and not care about anyone else really
Racists and bigoted your go to labels got it ok what else
Owned Libs on Reddit? I donât think Iâve owned anyone
Actually I think Iâm pretty civil. Letâs see have I put you down in anyway? Let me check. Nope never said anything negative about you this whole interaction
In fact, the only hate has been coming from you
What about leading a country when youâve actively not followed any of the laws in the country like your Saintly Donnie? Thats okay with you, I expect.
The same law Trump should technically be in jail for, cooking the books
How can one come to the country with nothing, suddenly be 30M richer and then suddenly say âoopsie, it was a booking error teehee, I only have 95Kâ
Too bad she doesn't actually represent Americans. She prefers Somalians, which is fine. She should go run for government in Somalia, where her true loyalty lies.
When your net worth goes from $30m to under $100k because of an "accounting error"...that might be something people want to look into. When you value your winery between $1m and $5m on your original disclosure, and then close it 9 days after your amended disclosure shows no value at all....people might have questions.
The investigation is being done by HSI....a division of DHS....you do realize they investigate financial crimes right? money laundering, fraud...that kind of money thing.
Trump is a convicted felon over falsified business records, yet weâre supposed to shrug off an alleged seven-figure accounting discrepancy? Lol.
And if the judge who signed off was appointed by Obama and accepted Democratic donations, do you really think heâd risk his reputation and longstanding political ties without a serious reason?
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u/BananasPineapple05 12h ago edited 11h ago
Anyone who's ever heard John Oliver talk about his path to citizenship, assisted as he was by lawyers for his corporate employers of the time, understands that the path to U.S. citizenship is a minefield that seems to have been designed to make it near impossible for anyone to reach the finish line.
I mean, that's an exageration since clearly many do get there. But it's seriously enligthening to consider how many twists and turns his path had, as an English-speaking white man who already had a secure job making lots and lots of money. And then you start to think how it must be very different for people who don't have his privilege.
And then you consider how Ilhan Omar was a literal child when she reached U.S. shores as a refugee.
I'm glad Mamdani lent his support. But the racism inherent to going after Omar was clear enough already.