I know I look like a conservative boomer biker type all the way.. AND I'm a USMC Vet.. BUT.. I'm Leftist. It was on my dating profile, NO MAGA. Very few women in my area were interested.
In terms of your personal life, I really hope you find the companionship you're looking for, and I applaud you for being transparent and honest even if it's not currently getting you the results you want. It's better to weed out people early on that you wouldn't be compatible with anyway.
Thank you for your sentiments and support, most of the women in my area are VERY active-- as in Kayaking, Hiking the Mountains here, hot yoga at least 3x a week and they want a guy who does all of that. nope not this fella.. exercise is one thing but damn sit down once in a while lol
Yes, Reddit likes to pretend that only the most extreme, idiotic person could possibly be conservative. But, unfortunately, a large portion of the population is âhiding in plain sight.â
A lot of women end up compromising on politics because they want a partner. Thatâs realityÂ
the truth is that conservativism is the default. It's the unthinking man's ideology. "keep everything the way it was" is a really easy hill to die on when it has mostly allowed your family to live in peace
To some extent for straight white cis women as well, but only if they have been brainwashed into believing they are subservient to men. I only mention because it is unfortunately true for a lot of cis het white women
still, the vast majority of the group I referred to are cishet white men.
A large portion of the voting population. If the people that don't vote had someone good to vote for that would actually promise to improve their material conditions in clear meaningful ways, Republicans would rarely, if ever, win.
"If the people that don't vote had someone good to vote for that would actually promise to improve their material conditions in clear meaningful ways, Republicans would rarely, if ever, win."
If both the people that don't vote and the people that do weren't a bunch of drooling half-wits, and had even a basic understanding of how this government is supposed to work (informing themselves, getting involved, and keeping up with issues instead of pulling their heads out of their asses for one week every four years), Republicans wouldn't only not win, they wouldn't even be a viable political party.
My friend got in the apps after her divorce and met a man who said he was a âcontractorâ. Turns out he was an ICE contractor and he tried to tell her heâs ânot politicalâ đ¤Śââď¸
Haha oh sure buddy. I love that theyâre realizing theyâre hated at least. I hear MAGA saying theyâre not happy but also still saying âI love the guyâ so at this point I guess Iâll be happy with them just realizing everyone else thinks theyâre insane and unhinged.
About 30% of any given population are pro-authoritarian; they love strongmen type characteristics in their leaders. Historically strongmen are often both physically weak and incompetent. This doesn't stop the hero worship though.
Yup itâs just the same set of personality traits, you can gauge someoneâs personality on a very general, non-political range of topics and nail down their spot on the political compass pretty easily. I feel like most hardcore MAGA people i run into are just slight permutations of the same âguyâ.
It makes sense that who a person idolizes or identifies with determines their personality, just look at who Trump treats with deference. So for strongmen worship let's see: narcissistic, vain, capricious, greedy, and stupid. Did I miss anything?
Not really trying to be overly optimistic here, but at least we have a good example of how not to act...
Itâs also filling in the gaps of what they arenât, they need a strongman because they themselves are anxiety ridden and fearful of the world outside of their door, the strongman can take on the world that scares them. They are close minded and adverse to new ideas/experiences, the strongman packages them as threats to their way of life.
That's brilliantly put. A strongman seems to be a surrogate for a father figure, add in all that unrecognized trauma and mental illness, wow. I'd have compassion if all this outward turned pain and fear didn't cause so much harm.
Conservatives, by their definition and goals, are intentionally "the same". The whole ideology is about uniformity and resisting change/progress, and the best way to do this is by making sure everyone is the same.
omg i agree. i hate when people who claim to not care about politics complain about things directly tied to politics. like, how do you not see how stupid you sound right now? do a lot of people just not know what politics are?
i have a gay friend who is very anti politics and says he doesnât like talking politics at all, doesnât vote, but heâll complain about that stuff all the time. itâs so weird.
I've learned that this applies to women as well. My last girlfriend was "apolitical". Her twin brother was Maple MAGA. So while she didn't pay too much attention to politics, her way of thinking and all the conclusions she reached were HARD to the right.
Yes, these people are even dumber than Americans who voted for Trump.
At least in America you can try and pretend Trump is working for you.
If you are Canadian, there is 0 argument Trump is acting in your favor.
Unfortunately now in America itâs so far beyond just politics. One party is full of pedophiles and actively disappearing people. If youâre not against that then you can fuck right off.
In my experience, the moderate claim is most often used by people in fair weather times to come off as socially open or non confrontational politically. Theyâre also usually the first people to vote Republican when anything remotely progressive shows up.
Its crazy how conservatives get to own this 'good for econ' branding when its never true.
They're almost always worse for the economy, they're not even good for rich people unless you're like rich rich and corrupt. Honest businesses and normie rich suffer under lnp too, its all so exhausting.
Im glad you said usually because I used to be the same, yet you won't find me voting for anyone that supports the current administration. Its never been because I don't want to be seen as a republican. Its always been because I feel two parties are a very inaccurate representation of the various beliefs and ideals held by the variety of people in this country.
I still view myself as independent (not affiliated with any party), and one of the funniest things that happened is when I took a long political compass test and landed dead center on the x axis. Literally 0.00 was my score after all of those questions. But since then I've begun to lean more progressive.
And yes. I do vote. Not just for the main positions either. My polling place is right behind my house so I have no excuse.
I honestly wouldn't know if you're correct since I have no experience in the politics of the rest of the world, but it wouldn't surprise me if you were. But as I said, thats what I used to be
Thatâs wild, I wish you could pull up your responses that led to that scoring. I wonder if you were just subconsciously, completely contradictory? đ¤Ł
Now let's take a look at a survey of how people who identify themselves as libertarian tend to report that they vote
Not liking the two party system isn't the same as not recognizing that voting third party typically is equivalent to not voting.
Voting for candidates of either of the two parties that have a reasonable chance at winning has the same outcome regardless of how those casting the votes identify.
As much as I don't like it, that doesn't mean I havent come to agree with what youre saying. I wish it was different but that gets me nowhere. I consider myself independent but I never said I vote as one. I used to identify as a libertarian but not anymore. I'm just me and I vote for the candidate that I feel has the best chances of making a positive impact on society
I honestly have no idea and I really wish I could have seen how my answers influenced the result. I may have a screenshot somewhere but my phone also got damaged a few months after and I lost some photos.
I was legit shocked but also laughed out loud at the result. I doubt I would score the same now. I probably couldnt have done it again then either
Are generalizations and extremist rhetoric what blue is against? I donât agree with every blue idea, but I have never voted red. Thinking someone has to agree with you on every single thing is silly.
The Democratic Party used to be about remaining level headed and not being hateful towards anybody that didnât see everything your way. Talking in such an extremist generalized manner is what Trump does.
Many of the democratic votes come from moderates and centrist that see the evil Trump has created. It would be wise not to push them away and to be a bit more open minded to people being allowed to believe in different things than you.
My Aunt was Republican all her life. A Nurse that was married to a Puerto Rican man and volunteered at a hospital changing bed pans until she was in her 80s (despite being very wealthy) decided to vote blue for the first time because she hated Trump and what he stood for. Do you really wanna villainize those types of people and push them away too? Both sides donât need to be crazy. Leave that to the reds.
There is no threat of villainizing anybody who holds Republican ideology. Theyâre already villains. Every single one of them. Thereâs no such thing as a good Republican because the entire ideology is based on oppression and aristocracy. I donât care how many feet you wash, asses you wipe and Hail Marys you throw up, republicans are shit and their core.
I got a mailer from the NH GOP that told me not to vote for whichever Dem guy is running, literally saying âdonât vote for him, heâs woke!â I was like âthank you for letting me know to vote forâŚnot your guy!â
The thing is, all Republicans have is this type of shit. All the have ia bullshit baiting words/phrases - woke, socialism, liberal, "they want to give benefits to illegals", etc. They know nothing about policy, it's always this shit.
I am a lifelong liberal who rarely votes GOP (twice, I think, in 28 years). If you are still calling yourself Republican with that felonious traitor at the head of the party, it doesnât matter to me how great your policy plans are, how great of a human you have been, you tacitly support everything he does and says, so I refuse to vote for you.
Which kind of sucks, thereâs a guy running for an open seat that is a champion of programs my family benefits from, but he still identifies as Republican, so I have to vote for a legacy family (the programs will be fine with either of them).
Hey don't get too complacent... not everyone who states liberal intentions will actually stick to these morals when the time comes. Trust me, my liberal and progressive support system fell the fuck apart as soon as I faced struggle fhat forced me to ask for help. They all treated me like a monster all of a sudden for nor being hyper self sufficient. Fuck em.
You might be an actual moderate but if the scale is -100 to 100. MAGA is like -6973774 so everything in the old recognizable political spectrum is "woke"
Look how they even turn against themselves like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Glenn beck and all the other forgotten names of the right who Are disgarded the moment they don't suit purpose anymore.
I would have called my self moderate as a teenager though I was left of the average for my area. But I moved and pretty much stayed left of average of where I lived and gradually moved more and more left as I got older and honestly felt like I learned a little more about people and history.
This was my path too. I always considered myself pretty moderate, middle of the road. I voted based on who I felt was best and voted Republican in some local elections. Now Iâm what is considered rabidly Liberal and I vote straight Dem because of things like empathy being considered a sin.
There are no more moderate conservatives. If you are, in 2026, still a proud conservative, it means youâve decided that the president being a rapist, warmonger, and inside trader, the price of literally everything going up, American soldiers dying in wars of choice, zero justice for the Epstein survivors, and inflation so bad that even the presidentâs personal pick with the sole mission of lowering rates is HIKING them, making your mortgage (if you even have one) more expensive isnât a deal breaker. That every single one of those things is something you proudly get behind
I can agree with everything youâve said here. I hope they are capable of believing and feeling these ideas too. I just donât see them being capable of doing anything other than circling that bubble that has a name with an (R) next to it every single chance they get. Nothing means more to them than that identity and there is no shame for them.
Genuine question. How so? I'm asking because I'd classify myself as a moderate. The Right has had good ideas, the left has had good ideas. Somewhere in the middle tends to be where reality is.
I consider myself moderate. Iâm pro 2A. Iâm for more fiscal responsibility for all (people and government alike), Iâm anti biological males in womenâs sports (also donât really think itâs an issue that need much attention since it occurs in such a microscopic amount of situations) but Iâm also pro-choice (I mean Iâd rather the baby be born, but understand its a choice), Iâm for freedom of religion but Iâm not religious and I donât want it infringing on anyone or dictating laws, Iâm for anyone wanting to get married and Iâm pro LGBTQ+. Iâm pro immigration. Iâm also pro-taxing the bajeezus out of corporations that offshore good paying jobs here.
I'm a moderate in the sense that I think progressive tax brackets need to go past 626k because someone making 50 million a year should be taxed at a higher rate than really good lawyer but wealth taxes have been abandoned by almost every country that has tried them for good reasons.
No it doesnât. I am an LGBTQ+ ally and I love guns. I do not support ICE as it is, but I also do not believe in illegal immigrants being immune from deportation. Tax the rich, but donât incentivize people to lack initiative and willingness to work hard by giving them plentiful and endless benefits (it should be JUST enough to get by).
I do not believe either party fully supports all of my beliefs. So I am somewhere in the middle. I believe that American politics fully lack a sensible balance across the entire spectrum. I do not think this is an unreasonable stance and frankly politics these days makes me sick and feel tired, so I choose not to involve myself.
Enjoy losing the general election again with that attitude. We need Bill Maherâs vote whether you think fairytale magic and good vibes can win elections or not.
You haveo ask yourself what's more important, winning? Or being right? It's a genuine problem on the left. They're (we're) not (generally) willing to stoop to low standards and lies in order to win, but if you play a fair game against people who have no problem cheating openly with no consequences, then you're going to lose every time.
Usually this is why the left get demoralised and end up giving up.
I would be careful with this. It basically is relative to where they live. While I lived in san francisco, I called myself a moderate. Anywhere else in the US I would be left, probably very left, but in SF I was definitly a moderate. I like to consider myself an Obama democrat.
What a weird statement to make. There is no absolutes with politics. This isnât some mindless gang behavior where we have to be extremists on opposite ends 100% or youâre actually for the other side.
People can and do have varying opinions about many different things that could fall on either side.
This country is not as black and white as these statements say it is.
Also even Far Left people are Right Wing if the person speaking is even more drowned in the Kool-Aid
"Right Wing" has joined plenty of other words where it's PROBABLY just "They didn't believe everything we do to the acceptable level of tribalism" and sometimes is actually just the word. Hearing somebody get called a racist by Leftists is 90% BS and 10% actually someone with criticizing
They ride the fence in fair weather and quickly vote conservative the second the needle might begin to fade left. Typically just as against change as republicans and are afraid of people finding out what their true beliefs are.
Anyone who dates someone who isn't political on the right to access an abortion is headed towards a very difficult time when it comes to their sex lives and its potential consequences.
Russians also do it all the time. "I am for peace and not into politics" means they are pro expansion but can't say it openly to western people not to appear barberic
Moderates are conservatives who aren't racist. Republicans are "conservatives" who are.
Conservative doesn't mean what the right has been doing for almost 20 years now. They pushed all the conservatives out of the Party when Trump took over.
The republican party is the party of being racist now and maybe occasionally they're gonna remember to bring up fiscal responsibility... but probably not.
I am also liberal, I vote in elections, and I contribute personally to the causes that I care most about.
I'm not political because the poster in the OP and most people in this thread are obnoxious, intolerant, anti-intellectual drones who I would absolutely loathe discussing politics with and would rather associate myself with as little as humanly possible.
I'm a liberal, I would consider myself political because I spend a lot of time thinking about politics, but yeah I don't like to engage with the majority of people on the internet because they're anti intellectual and rude. There's no sense in trying to reason with somebody who isn't capable of reasoning themselves.
There is a difference between being not political and trying not to be involved in everything that's happening. You still have your political views and values, so you are not not political.
I am a radical left libertarian. I am a man without a party, and in my opinion the rest of my party are hypocrites one and all. I believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all of mankind that sets foot on American soil.
However I rarely tell people I am a libertarian because 99 percent of my party are just Republicans who hate taxes and care not for the freedoms of their fellow man.
That is a lot to unpack over casual conversation. So I just try to avoid it.
Libertarians think any public good is theft of their money via taxes. or that's how they began anyway - next to no government, and if you get poisoned by a massive corporation dumping water in your poor neighborhood, you simply hire a band of lawyers to challenge them in court!
Libertarians in my experience have the world view of a 13 year old - "everyone should be like me"
EDIT: just saw this shared below... and yeah, nope. I don't buy it. As soon as I hear "free-market" I lose interest. There are no free markets. To GET a free market, we should overnight, give everyone in the world the same amount of money - and enough to allow each person to make their own choice as to the life they want to live. THEN you would see a "free market" develop from peoples' preferences. It's just not gonna happen.
Libertarians are usually socially left. Politics, like gender, is a spectrum. Many conservatives, even MAGA's usually have a belief or two that are absolutely considered liberal. It's that most of ther beliefs skew to conservativism.
Left refers to left of center. Politicaly radical means to the left of liberalism. Even though many people consider conservatives as "radical" a more proper term to use for them would be "reactionary". I have some very proper radical beliefs.
There are only so many words for people who consistently prioritize freedom as part of their personal politics. Libertarian, anarchist, liberal. The term liberal has been coopted to refer to the establishment left, who are not consistently oriented around freedom, so describing oneself as a liberal when referring to your position on the lib/auth axis doesn't really get the point across. Most people don't associate a "liberal" with freedom the way they do with libertarians and anarchists. I don't know if libertarian is the best choice either because, like you said, it's origins and current actions are economically right wing. Anarchist is probably the worst term you could use unless you're actually an anarchist.
The question then is how should someone with economically and socially progressive as well as freedom oriented views label themself? Liberal is too auth, libertarian is too right, so funny enough it seems that shortening it to "lib" is the best course of action to avoid misunderstandings.
Libertarianism is fundamentally incompatible with left wing politics. Left wing politics is about using the tools of legislation, regulation and taxation to ensure equality of opportunity and outcome. Libertarianism is fundamentally opposed to the use of any of those tools for any purpose.
I voted for the democratic party since I was able to vote. I will reconsider when another party is able to challenge the "anti-liberty" party. And while I support Gary Johnson on some things, IMO he should go further to the left socially and fiscally.
True. I'm apolitical/moderate. Instead of assuming this means I am pro-Trump, I'd much rather someone ask me if I am. Then I could explain that I believe Trump is a genuinely evil person, as bad as Hitler ( I believe he would do what hitler did if he could), and I would explain that I am against everything he stands for. Then we could all get along.Â
I'm pissed that me being moderate means people think I am a republican in disguise. It's just nonsense.
College educated men aged 22-40 are 50% more likely to get married if they are conservative than liberal.
One interpretation of this may be that liberal women are extremely picky and are just choosing not to get married at some point. It's likely the conservatives are having quite a few more children as well. So the dating tip here is that you should just be very suspect and picky and greatly reduce your chances of every getting married.
I highly doubt that statistic is accurate at all. Not saying that you are lying about it or anything, but just that whoever "tracked" such a thing probably did not put in the absolutely extensive amount of effort it would take to accurately get that number
Outside of the actual study by IFS, there are many that support its findings including Gallup (2026), AEI / Cahn & Carbone (2024), Pew Research (2010), Monitoring the Future (2010-Present).
I also think if I was in the dating world I would ask those questions on the first date. I wouldn't exclusively talk politics but I'd rather find out I'm in a date with a conservative immediately rather than waste my time.
Most brain dead tribalistic thought process I ever heard lol vast majority of liberals I know only say theyâre liberal so they donât get bullied by weirdos like you.
Meh, I used to be very political. I still vote but Now I donât watch or read the news and my life is so much better for it. And Iâm pretty liberal.
I donât like telling girls I am political because when I am with a girl or on a date the last thing I want to do is talk politics, but I am very much on the left.
Any woman who puts that much stock in deciphering your apolitical beliefs is not a woman you want to date or marry. Let someone else deal with that headache.
At this point I am turned off by anyone that makes a simple political label a huge part of their identity. To me it signals arrogance and tribalism. I vastly prefer that someone thinks for themself.Â
I get the sentiment, but as a not very political guy Ive only ever voted left. I just rather be known for who I am and not labeled by my voting status. That being said Im in a loving relationship and I was forward with my beliefs and what I stood for from the jump, honesty best policy
Seriously guys that are more progressive, Get involved with Indivisible and start planning guy-oriented activities (prepping, civic workouts, woodworking, etc.)
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u/trainman64 8d ago
I know I look like a conservative boomer biker type all the way.. AND I'm a USMC Vet.. BUT.. I'm Leftist. It was on my dating profile, NO MAGA. Very few women in my area were interested.