r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 18d ago
FinancialTea đ” I don't get it either...
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u/Ballgame_75 18d ago
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u/Danilo-11 18d ago
Thatâs the definition of being brainwashed
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u/Omarkhayyamsnotes 18d ago
Consider the civil war. The Confederates  were literally willing to lose a half million fighting men before they would set black people free
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u/StaticMarzipan 18d ago edited 18d ago
We did a bad job in the aftermath.
*It was a really bad idea to have the emancipation and suffrage movement run by a white guy.
Top 10 anime betrayals.
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u/GravitasFailures 18d ago
Itâs not.
They had everything they wanted, they had state-endorsed racial sadism.
We took that from them, they have never for an instant forgotten.
You act like theyâre being used, they would gladly trade every economic policy, every freedom, anything you can imagine to have slavery back, itâs the only thing that matters to them, knowing they are superior to someone.
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u/Noahtuesday123 18d ago
That is the U.S.A. âŠthe belief that everybody wants to be like them. Wake up USA, there is LITERALLY no Country that wants to be like you.
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u/Thisismythrowawaypv 18d ago
They are so brainwashed they believe WE are the brainwashed ones. And I suppose that's how it works. I would imagine every cult in history has convinced their members of the same.
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u/ScubaSteve-O1991 18d ago
Or they make good income and dont care. I know people like this
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u/seattlemyth 18d ago
According to her x.com profile, she "live[s] in a beach town in south Texas." -- she likely doesn't work and just wallows in the sand with her 3 dogs all day.
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 18d ago
I would imagine itâs some nasty beach where oil constantly washes up and raw sewage is dumped in it and she bought that house 40 years ago for $100
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u/DidIJustWitnessThat 18d ago
South Padre Island has the nastiest beaches you'll ever walk on. I bet she fits right in.
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u/tenthtryatusername 18d ago
Iâve run into this before. May not be her money, she may not have worked to earn the money for the house she lives in. See it from guys too. Several I know worked âreally hardâ for their money and Iâm supposed to ignore the fact that their dad set them up with the money to start a business and an exclusive contract to sell (popular thing canât write this bc it shares too much) in the fourth largest city in the richest country in the world.
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u/MangoCats 18d ago
We lived in Houston during the Bush Jr years. Oil companies were just rolling in stupid money. Mid level manager got a bonus and bought the house next door to us for 2x market value just because he could... Maybe her hubby got a big bonus and they bought a beach house, then she divorced him and kept it.
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u/Omegaprime02 18d ago
Or they own a Tesla.
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u/TheRealCropear 18d ago
They canât afford a car. Live with parents or whoever is willing to put up with them until the finger banging is not worth it.
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u/Icy_Yam5049 18d ago
Itâs a cult. Thatâs it. They tied their identities to this mess. Now they will eat the trash before admitting itâs rotting garbage.
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u/saltexas18 18d ago
Is hatred? Racism? Bigotry? I truly truly donât understand. Canât even cry itâs a religious thing anymore.
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u/Day_Old_Paper 18d ago
It is religious to them. 100%.
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u/bbrekke 18d ago
So, yes.
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u/Day_Old_Paper 18d ago
Basically, yep. They listed all the ingredients, they just forgot what the recipe was called.
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u/DanMoshpit69 18d ago
Think about how some people treat Sports teams that suck and are habitually terrible. They keep coming back and nobody really know why. This is the current Republican Party
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u/Select-Government-69 18d ago
Itâs the loss of in-group status. They would literally rather end the world than not be in the privileged majority group.
The promise of democracy is that minority viewpoints can become majority viewpoints through free speech and advocacy. Some people, however, never really believed in democracy if it meant they could lose.
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u/Vishnej 18d ago
The ethnic supremacist would happily hurt all of us, including themselves, if it means hurting the target of their hatred, if it means retaliating against their lessers getting uppity.
This is a large part of why we don't have, for example, a public healthcare system. Going back a hundred years, the concern was that it would be forced to treat white people alongside black people, at the same standard of care, in the same facilities. They would rather die of diptheria.
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u/True_Protection6842 18d ago
Itâs pure indoctrination. These are the people that keep reelecting, Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell.
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u/MaximumEffort433 18d ago edited 18d ago
Republicans think liberals are ontologically evil, like biblically evil, as in they think they're voting against Satan.
They think liberals are letting tens of millions of blood thirsty murderers cross our borders, they think liberals are letting schools perform gender reassignment surgeries on indoctrinated children, they think liberals are baby killers, they think liberals hate America and hate our troops, they think liberals hate Christianity and Jesus Christ, they think liberals are atheists, and socialists, and communists, and Marxists, they think liberals are out to destroy America and everything that "real American" conservatives like them love and hold dear.
They believe these things, truly and sincerely, and that's why they'd rather pay $50/gallon for gasoline than vote for a Democrat.
Edit: Case in point...
Here's Donald Trump (R) describing Democrats as "human-garbage."
Here's Donald Trump (R) calling Democrats "the enemies from within."
Here's Donald Trump (R) saying Democrats are the party of âHate, Evil and Satan.â
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u/zonearc 18d ago
Thank you. Someone had to explain it in a way that people will understand, because it explains why it's become such a fight. They have been manipulated over decades to see their neighbor as an enemy.
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u/MaximumEffort433 18d ago
They have been manipulated over decades to see their neighbor as an enemy.
We, on the left and in the center, take for granted the kind of messaging these folks are exposed to, but Fox News and right-wing media is 24/7 horror porn, custom designed to make their viewers angry and afraid.
Then these same people go to their evangelical church on Sunday and hear a sermon about hellfire and damnation, about how god is going to punish America for abortion, and gay marriage, and transgender rights, and it's just more horror porn, more fear and anger.
Right-wingers consume propaganda, absolutely terrifying propaganda, in a way that the rest of us just can't relate to, we're blind to it, we don't look for it, we don't look at it, we don't really understand it.
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u/Legman688 18d ago
Thank you for articulating these points more eloquently than I could.
As long as the utterly mendacious right-wing propaganda bubble is allowed to continue to exist, no lasting progress is possible in America.
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u/Perfect_Row3937 18d ago
Yeah, but they also just is plain stupid. Thinks itâs a football teams type thing, donât understandify the lawez or civics centers, willfully ignorantorated and finale thinkums theyâs is bettererer will get spoils if itâs all torn downtown. Yeah, self-incepteration!
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u/Misha-Nyi 18d ago
This still doesnât make sense. Itâs like believing the earth is flat.
These people are stupid and should just be called that.
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u/MaximumEffort433 18d ago
This still doesnât make sense. Itâs like believing the earth is flat.
These people are stupid and should just be called that.
"We taught him wrong on purpose, as a joke!"
If you give a person bad facts, they're going to come to bad conclusions, garbage in, garbage out.
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u/EmergencyGrab 18d ago edited 18d ago
... isn't their whole hatred against socialism that everything will be more expensive because of the government?
... like what they are cheering on?
Except they don't have free healthcare.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi 18d ago
It originally started with reasoned logic a long time ago, but over time it's been replaced with dogmatic thinking (or lack thereof). They got so wrapped up in deciding that they were right, and Democrats/etc were "wrong", and not only wrong but evil, thanks to repeated reinforcement from Right Wing media, online echo chambers, and IRL friend groups and so on, that they stopped caring about making any of it make logical sense, to the point that now it's tautological and cultish. They know they're right, everyone else who disagrees is wrong, and they will jump through all kinds of ridiculous mental hoops in order to justify it rather than admit that THEY might be the ones that are wrong.
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u/AmericanCitizenry 18d ago
We need to start a government agency to go around and snatch them off the streets and out of their homes.
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u/scottyjrules 18d ago
Shit like this is why this country is cooked forever
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u/Then_I_had_a_thought 18d ago
The ultra wealthy have completely snared them it their culture war bamboozle. This is why they love the uneducated
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u/LemonButterRum 18d ago
Citizens United, Electoral college and a rigged Supreme Court are more practical reasons. but yea, it will take a miracle for the Dems to get the type of majority needed to change this
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u/scottyjrules 18d ago
But none of those would fix the mindset above. Yes, we need to fix those but thereâs no fixing stupid.
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u/Bucksquatch 18d ago
Theyâre full of shit. If gas hits $10.00 a gallon, at some point, they canât blame Biden and Obama anymore. Theyâll have to face reality. And, that reality is⊠they voted for the wrong candidate.
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u/PreparationHot980 18d ago
There is nothing in this world that could get them to change their beliefs and viewpoints. They may get upset with mango Mussolini, but theyâll be sure to fill in that bubble next to whoever has âRâ by their name come November. Nothing is more important to them than their contrived identity.
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u/EddieVanzetti 18d ago
They'll justify it using the Ole "good czar, evil boyars" fallacy.
Remember: after WW2, the US Army occupation conducted polls and that 47% of Germans believes "NAZIsm was a good idea badly carried out"
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u/PreparationHot980 18d ago
đ€Ł facts and then in 12 years we will see it full circle with a new figure head
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u/stockmarketscam-617 18d ago
I wish X would have kept the feature that showed where these accounts are actually from. I bet these accounts are actually foreign propaganda accounts. Foreign entities have weaponized our freedom of speech.
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u/jordon4ca93 18d ago
With Musk running X that's exactly why you can't see where the accounts are from.
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u/Trick-Painter5337 18d ago
Reality!?! Reality!?! Gave that notion up a looooong time ago đ€Łđ€Łđđđđđ
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u/Day_Old_Paper 18d ago
Itâs a death cult. The heritage foundation has worked for decades now to interweave Christianity and the GOP together as one, and now voting against the GOP to these people is akin to turning your back on God. They wonât do it. If they go down theyâre fine because they see life on earth as a temporary testing ground for an eternity in heaven. They do not fear everything here ending. They actively seek it. Leaving here is the goal, not the end, to them.
MAGA is a cult.
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u/whatisdreampunk 18d ago
They're telling us directly that hating Democrats is so much a part of their identity that they will never stop. I grew up this way and had to deprogram myself from the cult when I moved out. We will never convince them to vote for a Democrat, so we have to stop ceding ground with centrist bullshit.
I'd say follow Mamdani's example. Politely but firmly call them out and proceed to make the world a better place despite their best efforts. And if that doesn't work, guillotines. đ€·ââïž
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u/RicRacer 18d ago
Republicans have been like this for decades. This is from 2015.
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u/JulesVernerator 18d ago
It was all because of 2008. Obama won and they all went mask off. Republicans pursued a policy of obstructionism during Obama's full 8 years. That's how badly they hated black people.
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u/zVizionary 18d ago
These are the same people that tell you to move to Russia or some other middle eastern country if you disagree with anything happening in America. Unbelievable.
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u/Elf_Maeve 18d ago
A guy in texas killed his daughter because she said trump was a pedo.
So nothing is surprisingÂ
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u/yankeenc2010 18d ago
You can't fix stupid
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u/butonelifelived 18d ago
There is one way to fix stupid, and if the right keeps pushing, they'll find out.
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u/Double-Watercress-85 18d ago
They don't actually know or care what either party stands for. All they know is that they've been told that Republicans are the good guys and Democrats are the bad guys. No matter what Republicans do wrong, they'll still always be the good guys. No matter how bad their lives are as a direct result of Republicans, nothing can be as bad as being one of the bad guys.
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u/CupCustard 18d ago
You see this too bc they will tell you you're a "leftist" the moment you disagree with any part of anything they say. Even if it's not remotely political. It's very scary. And to be clear, I am a leftist haha... Sooo. But this is beyond my own interactions, I see them accusing each other of being leftist a lot online, it is wild. Anyone who remotely disagrees with a conservative is labeled a leftist and to them its a reason to not even pretend to argue in good faith about anything they're saying. It's a disease
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u/MoodyPrince_XoXo 18d ago
They have to. They have committed their entire identity into a cultist movement. To abandon now would mean ego death for most.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 18d ago
A Republican is someone that would shoot their child in the head if they were positive the bullet would also kill two children belonging to libs - at least thats how it feels
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u/trapper2530 18d ago
Bc its not about what is actually better. They only care about hurting the other side and hurting those they deem less than.
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u/11thstalley 18d ago
These right wingers care more about the âculture warsâ that have been shoved down their throats since the days of Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich indoctrinating newly elected GOP Representatives in 1995 than any policy position.
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u/TheBSQ 18d ago
My guess is itâs the culture war issues & immigration stuff that they have strong objections to, not taxes on the wealthy.Â
But honestly, if you want Sweden style social  safety nets you need to also have a braod tax base that includes taxing everyone (not just the ultra-wealthy) at rates higher than the U.S.
So, perhaps, this person understands this & fears the tax increases wonât be just on the wealthy.
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u/bestmattreddit 18d ago
Itâs all because of trans people. Anytime I see a conservative online argue against voting against Democrat or being okay with high prices they bring up how the left is transitioning and mutilating kids and upset that the left think men can become women. Itâs their entire platform essentially.
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u/sabautil 18d ago
Good, tell moderates like me how crazy you are.
You just convincing me to vote Democrat.
The last time I voted Republican was Reagans first term. Fooled me once. And you never got my vote again until John McCain. Ok he didn't win, but Obama was so great, that I voted for him in 2012 - and then y'all lost your minds.
How you elected a guy twice that Hollywood portrayed as a villain in Back to The Future II in 1988? Y'all crazy.
Go ahead keep talkin crazy. See how I vote.
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u/Pygmy_Nuthatch 18d ago
It's not about economics. It's the culture war issues that keep people from crossing over.
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u/BitterFuture 18d ago
Well...yeah.
The whole point of conservatism is hurting the people they hate at any cost. They're literally willing to die for it, as COVID proved.Â
Why does anyone think any gas price would move them even a little bit?
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u/cover32seahawks 18d ago
has nothing to do with the economy. their resentment is entirely about culture war BULLSHIT
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u/PassThatSpliff 18d ago
It's a cult. They dont believe in critical or independent thinking. Republican is their true religion. Nothing else is morally right or true to them unless it came from die-hard, bigoted, "Christian" Republicans.
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u/Mirror_tender 18d ago
We're mired in Identity politics. It's still possible that the brand "Democrat" is damaged so badly by fux news that the only real way to sanity is a third or even a fourth party.
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u/Mountain_Sand3135 18d ago
you hit it on the nail
they would rather watch the world burn than take an "L"
Ego is a powerful force ..
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u/SnooEagles4121 18d ago
Certainly it's some brainwashing, but part of the reason it works so well is because the average right wing brain would rather die than admit wrongdoing, particularly on political matters. They're too self-centered to ever accept being wrong.
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u/Legman688 18d ago
You have to understand that these people are told, endlessly, for up to 14 hours a day, every. single. day., that Democrats are Satan. That they are communists, that they are chopping off children's genitals, that they want open borders and to replace everyone with illegal immigrants, they want to force everyone to be vegan. The problem, the obstacle to having any kind of positive change or progressive policies in the United States isn't the G.O.P. any more. Hasn't been for years. The obstacle is the right-wing propaganda bubble. And what passes for the left remains wilfully oblivious to this fact, never mind has any kind of plan to counter it. As long as Fox News, OANN, Newsmax, whatever, are allowed to continue to spew bald-faced lies about everything under the sun 24 hours a day, and spread every kind of bigotry there is, it doesn't really matter what Democrats do or don't do if they actually manage to get power anywhere.
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u/Minute987 18d ago
It is literally a cult. They would gladly sacrifice themselves for glorious leader.
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u/Individual-Data396 18d ago
orange man fell below 20% approval raiting this week. I highly doubt this bich will pay 50 dollars a gallon
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u/Andreus 18d ago
Remember, folks: right-wing ideology has never and cannot produce functional societies. Right-wing governments have a 100% historical track record of driving their countries into the ground. Right-wingers do not have a meaningful body of artistic, scientific or cultural work. Right-wingers know this - they are fully aware that the ideology they follow cannot create, only destroy. They follow it because it destroys.
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u/Symbaclues 18d ago
This is actually common.
Both not understanding why they won't change their view and the reasoning why they won't change their view.
There is an old story from ancient times about a tribe who said the world would end. When it didn't they just said they prayed so hard that they actually saved the world.
People will often fabricate a new story to fit their past narratives!
Most people will not study logical fallacies and critical thinking errors so that's why it's common for people to not understand this phenomenon in the first place.
Delusions are cognitive and hallucinations are sensory. Which are they suffering from? đ€ đ
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u/Jolly_Echo_3814 18d ago
mostly cuz they've never had to actually feel the sting. they always get bailed out when the next democrat comes in and fixes stuff. if she lives for 20 more years and pays 50 dollars a gallon for gas she might change her tune.
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u/surfkaboom 18d ago
One day, people will look at policies and the things people say instead of what letter is in the parentheses
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u/ItemZealousideal431 18d ago
Translation: "My hatred and racism are more important to me than anything else."Â
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u/LuckSilver8999 18d ago
And he will vote Rapepublican even if Dems get the gas to $1 per gallon. Doesnât matter.
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u/dth1717 18d ago
So either A) she's so rich it don't matter B) she owns an EV C) she hasn't left her house in years
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u/CaramelGuilty8647 18d ago
Or D) she's lying.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_3507 18d ago
Stupidity at its finest, Republicans could give her a hammer and tell her to hit herself in the head with it and itâll stop her headaches and sheâd gladly do it.
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u/N0rmNormis0n 18d ago
This is how deeply propagandized they are (I was as a child and a young her adult). The hatred and the disdain is real. The dirtiest words are liberal and democrat
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u/CuriosityCheck2024 18d ago
Being forced to say that someone that clearly belongs in one category actually belongs in anither because he wants to be. Being forced to agree that something that doesn't exist and mocks something beautiful does exist and isn't mocking the thing that actually exists. Allowing the wholesale slaughter of innocents and the elderly for the simple "crime" of being inconvenient to care for. Shall I go on?
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u/discordianofslack 18d ago
Bitch canât afford $50 a gallon.
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u/Classic-Ad-4321 18d ago
Could you imagine paying that amount? Let's just say you have a 16 gallon tank on your car. The 1st time you see $800 for a tank of gas, you will die from shock. $41600 a year, if you fill up every week. That's almost 3X the amount a minimum wage employee makes in a year, pre-tax.
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u/asher030 18d ago
'Us vs them' tribalism which conmen and assholes have long since learned to control and manipulate to their advantage. People will let throngs of other people just die right in front of them if it'll mean winning against the 'other team'
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u/seabass_goes_rawr 18d ago
Can we start charging these folks what they ask for and see how long they last?
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u/Cowabunga1981 18d ago
It's basically come down to social Darwinism: They will vote against their own interests until they all die off from the policy choices they make
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u/InternMammoth4121 18d ago
"I will pay $50 a gallon before I vote democrat."
"Why?"
"Because gas could cost $5 a gallon under democrats!"
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u/PrarieDogma 18d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/AKaEfzaLlr0yI
Republicans, not known for their mental prowess
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u/jaylen6319 18d ago
Her first name is MISTY! Did anyone expect anything intelligent to come out of her mouth???
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u/Deep_Mechanic_ 18d ago
That lady is crazy brain washed. That being said, would you rather pay $50 a gallon or vote Republican?
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u/Ok-Spot-6235 18d ago
Typical pickup tank goes 25 to 35 gallons. Nothing says I OWNED THE LIBS like a $1,250 fill up.
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u/Own-Cryptographer-0 18d ago
They believe there is a party on the good side, Godâs side, and a party on the bad side, the devilâs side. And the harder it gets making sense of the âgood sideâ, the more imperative it is to prove you are faithful.
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u/Noahtuesday123 18d ago
The idea that its a party over a country every fucking time is the most absurd thing happening here. I mean, I donât think that her or any republican is intelligent and I know that most of them are racist so I donât expect much.
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u/ArchaeoJones 18d ago
It's cult mentality. If they admit they're wrong, they might end up thinking for themselves, realize how much their lives suck and paint a Kurt Cobain style Jackson Pollock painting on their ceiling.
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u/Llhaniii 18d ago
They can say all this bullcrap online but when push comes to shove these actuall people wont swallow that.
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u/EF_YEAH_XO 18d ago
Can they have Republican Trump prices and Democratic have their gas prices? Let them pay the 50 we'll stick with 2.99
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u/TennSeven 18d ago
It's because racist, fascist policies are literally more important to them than their very livelihood.
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u/WeaknessNaive8784 18d ago
Actually just vote for israel since you are at it. Might as well move over there
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u/hvacigar 18d ago
If she makes enough money to afford $50/gal gas, and the inflation that happens across the board as a result, she is who we are targeting to increased taxes. Likely she can't afford life at $50/gal gas.
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u/civil_politician 18d ago
What do you say the odds are that isn't even an American citizen in the top and just some bot farm paid actor sowing division?
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u/chucktheninja 18d ago
A world without the people they dislike suffering is not a world they want to live in. Even if they have to suffer along with those they dislike.
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u/my-username-checks 18d ago
Itâs more that they would rather pay $50 a gallon than admit they were wrong or dupedâŠ
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u/SimpleDependent7220 18d ago
One of the many great things about this country is that you donât have to vote. But anyone who turns a blind eye to people doing wrong is a criminal. Make no mistake: this current administration is really screwing things upâŠ
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u/throwaway_coy4wttf79 18d ago
More ok with $50/gal than whatever fears they have about trans people, probably.
Religion turns everything into irrational fear. That why it "doesn't make sense." But it does if you shift your worldview into theirs for a sec. Would you rather pay $50 at the pump or suffer the Wrath of God.
I understand it's stupid, but it's equally stupid to think that they're making a choice between taxes/safety nets and this. They're not. It's between their religion / sense of morality / fearmongering about immigrants and this.
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u/SalmonPrince 18d ago
Well don't forget about the immigrants eating pets, and the like five trans athletes in all of women's sports. Very dark times, folks. /s
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u/Grannymaenot 18d ago
What could the Democrats possibly do that would be worse than what the Republicans have already done? And what they plan to do and will keep doing?đ§đ”âđ«
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u/jpike1077 18d ago
A lot of bots out there also pushing dumb sh!t like this, and also a lot of dumb people
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u/GUMBYtheOG 18d ago
What made me lose faith in humanity⊠can get 3 strangers together in the US and at least 1 will choose the opposite of whatever the others say even if it means their own demise.
How long do you stay at the table after you get tired of the wildcard flipping the game board over every time
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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 18d ago
The right has done a very good job of keeping these people constantly afraid of and angry at the left. This is what the 24/7 outrage propaganda machine does to people.
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u/CapApprehensive9808 18d ago
Stubborn is a better word. Stubborn af. They take pride in my budging an inch.
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u/bluntwhizurd 18d ago edited 18d ago
NGL. I used to not get it. But the last 10 years have made me understand their line of thinking. I would sacrifice ALOT if it means MAGA eats shit. I would pay $50 a gallon to see Misty here living under a bridge.
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u/Rand-all 18d ago