r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • • 13d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah, am I stupid or something?

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u/dbaugh90 13d ago

I don't think you can say it was all staged. You had a guy die after getting shot with the bullet that missed him. At most, you could say he's so cynical that he had already prepared to cut his ear in the event he ever came under direct fire and survived.

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u/Kalenne 13d ago

If it was just the ear I'd agree but his pawns positioning photographers, the flag getting down before he even got back up for the photos and him GETTING UP IMMEDIATELY WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER??

All of that happened less than 10 seconds after he got shot : the footage clearly shows that nobody in trump's surrounding is acting like a real live shooter is trying to kill him

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u/dbaugh90 13d ago

It's strange to imply everyone around him knew there wasn't a shooter. That's not really how conspiracies work, it would be Trump himself, and a specific group of people, certainly not all the press photographers, who knew. People don't act predictably in crisis situations. Perhaps Trump acted irrationally and others followed, not realizing the danger was still present. Perhaps the shooter died earlier than we thought and he got the all clear through an earpiece or whisper, and we didn't realize it.

There are a lot of explanations that don't require you to assume a hundred people near to Trump all knew of a conspiracy, accepted that several people in the crowd would take bullets and one would even die, and all have gone alone with that to this day. Large groups of people can indeed keep secrets, but not really large semi-random groups of people.

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u/Kalenne 13d ago

I didn't say literaly everyone and certainly not the photographer, I spoke about Trump, his associate under the stage and that's it. You're somehow turning my very reasonable 2 or 3 people argument into "not hundred of people / every photographer!". Just him, 2 or 3 guys and that's all you need to make this plan work : but just one person acting immediately without any fear or surprise is a very strong sign that the event is not a surprise or worth fearing it.

Trump getting up 10 sec after getting shot to speak again is hilariously stupid and dangerous even for him, unless he knew he wasn't in real danger

His body guards letting him get up with a live shooter likely still active is also insane, but they might just be incompetent or not willing to fight for this guy's life if he really wants to get up that bad during an active shooting

The guy in the footage collecting photographers and the flag getting set up for the perfect photoshoot 5-10 sec after the shot happened is also insane

None of this makes any sense. It could make sense if they waited to have confirmation about the shooter fleeing or getting down, but it happened immediately instead

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u/Skoodge42 13d ago

The flag was not moved. This is misinformation. Just looked at the more zoomed out video.

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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 13d ago edited 13d ago

While true, they really did usher in photographers like psychopaths. Which many photographers don't give a fucking shit, and i'm sure they got some sort of all clear.

But that bullshit photo definitely helped him get elected.

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u/Kalenne 13d ago

Sure, but you should be able to see that the flag is by far the least important part of my concerns with the situation

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u/Skoodge42 13d ago

But it demonstrates you are decided based on incorrect assumptions and against evidence. You have no real evidence of it being faked and are just piecing together anything you can to justify the belief you want to be true.

I addressed the SS stuff in my other response to you, but essentially it is not evidence of any of your belief. They let Trump up when the shooter was already down. It was incredibly stupid and inept of them, but that doesn't prove anything about it being faked. Neither do the photographers doing the thing they are known to do lol.

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u/Kalenne 13d ago

If you don't consider their attitude as evidence of my reasoning you're just being bad faith : evidence is a strong reason to believe in something, it doesn't have to be flawless definite proof. Their attitude and immediate reaction faced with potential death makes no sense, and is absolutely a strong reason to believe there is something off

Trump is a conman who was found guilty of multiple felony, crimes and in the Epstein files. Believing he might have done a fake murder attempt on himself to gain popularity is perfectly in line with his character too

Nothing in this complotism theory stretches far : can I be wrong? Absolutely, sure. Many things are in a gray area here. But don't tell me I'm making shit out of thin air when this guy never ever backed up from taking an illegal shortcut before

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u/SatanV3 12d ago

Despite what people think, Trump is not THAT stupid. He would not put himself in the line of fire of a gunman like that, the risk of him getting killed would be insanely high.

Your evidence is extremely flawed. And sounds like crazy conspiracy theorist type shit.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 13d ago

His body guards letting him get up with a live shooter likely still active is also insane

If you watch videos of the attempt with audio you can hear USSS confirming that the shooter is down multiple times before moving the protection target.

By all accounts by the time they moved Trump Crooks had a very large and very visible hole in his head.