r/NFLv2 • Rob Lowe • 9h ago

Discussion I’ve watched Jayden Daniels play for four years and the reason he didn’t throw it away was to protect his completion percentage and QBR.

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He rarely spikes or throws the ball away. He’d much rather tuck it and run when a play blows up.
He’s extension eligible in the offseason and GMs use these stats to suppress salaries in negotiations. Just look at how CJ Stroud vs Nick Caserio is playing out in Houston.

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u/jackt-up Dallas Cowboys 9h ago

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 9h ago

We know Dak doesn’t have that problem

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u/EntrepreneurTiny9812 Philadelphia Eagles 9h ago

Dak woulda slid and tried to call a timeout that wasn't there

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u/DecentBug3454 Major Tuddy 🐷 9h ago

Dak woulda wondered why Zeke was snapping the ball

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u/BodybuilderMajor7862 Philadelphia Eagles 8h ago

My second favorite hate watch of all time

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u/Blaz3dnconfuz3d Dallas Cowboys 8h ago

Man I loved watching yall lose exactly like we did in Brazil. NFCLEAST is back baby!

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u/ChodeCookies Philadelphia Eagles 7h ago

Daks on a different level bro. He throws away entire seasons in the divisional round all 2 times he’s been there.

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u/VladimirGrievous 8h ago

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u/EvlOrangeMan 7h ago

That was hilarious when it happened, new it would be a meme in no time

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u/Loose-Culture5811 3h ago

It’s crazy that I saw this music video one time like 15 years ago but I also immediately recognized this GIF from it.

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u/Acceptable-Time-3150 9h ago

Nah. Dude just straight up pulled a JR Smith who also wore #5

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u/n00b_racer Pittsburgh Steelers 9h ago

Did it out of respect for jr smith?

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u/FermisParadoXV Denver Broncos 8h ago

How was he allowed to wear it when Daniels exists?

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u/Aternus21 8h ago

bro thought the clock was gonna stop at 5 seconds out of respect for him didnt he...

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u/CosbySweaters1992 Cincinnati Bengals 7h ago

After the game he said it felt good to get back to his normal form. That’s a yikes from me, even though I like him. He should have been so angry at himself, but he didn’t seem to be at all. I guess they are just used to losing, idk.

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u/Relevant-Site-2010 8h ago

Can’t believe JR had the foresight to pull that move so many years earlier just to show respect for JD

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/youDontgetThe_Show 9h ago

It was a finals game....

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u/KneeDragr Washington Commanders 9h ago

The whole team just lost track of time, everything took longer than they thought, nobody noticed they didn't have enough time to clock 2 plays and they cut the headset off when the play clock gets that low. It was just a stupid mistake by a defensive coach, new OC and a QB who didn't pay enough attention.

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u/RomanBangs Seattle Seahawks 9h ago

I wish Brady was the one commentating that game lol

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u/matt-is-sad Detroit Lions 8h ago

My favorite part of Brady commentating is hearing him try so hard not to completely lose his shit whenever a QB does something dumb

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u/kstar79 New England Patriots 5h ago

He'll just conveniently forget about the time he thought it was third down when it was actually fourth during the pandemic.

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u/AerieNecessary78 5h ago

I think he’s done enough in his career to make up for it.

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u/Other_Beat8859 Arizona Cardinals 6h ago

Wish we had Manning and his guys watching it. Love seeing legends lose their shit at players being dumbasses

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u/booponthenoggin 8h ago

No you don’t, he’d still be ranting about it. In point of fact when you changed the channel you’d be surprised to discover he was ranting on that channel as well.

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u/Tycho66 Minnesota Vikings 8h ago

QB gotta be aware but he had a brain fart.

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u/3rd-party-intervener NFL Refugee 6h ago

Daniels thought they there was timeout left.  Look at how non chalant he is getting out of the pile 

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u/Astro_Turf17 HAIL TO THE [REDACTED] 8h ago

Hello, reasonable Washington fan. Where have you been all my life??

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u/but-I-play-one-on-TV Kansas City Chiefs 9h ago

Not everyone deserves a platform to air their thoughts, OP 

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u/KenKaneki92 Washington Commanders 7h ago

Nah man, OP is an expert. He's been watching him for 4 years and most definitely isn't a box score and highlight merchant.

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u/jcoddinc Megatron’s Megaballs 9h ago

Incorrect.

Jayden laid down on the field once he realized they couldn't win by 5

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u/Friendly-Profit-8590 9h ago

Does spiking the ball hurt stats?

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u/NancyPelosi_OnlyFans 9h ago

Technically an incompletion

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u/TheDufusSquad New England Patriots 9h ago

Would have dropped his career completion percentage from 65.995% to 65.906%. Winners don’t accept a 0.09% dropoff. 

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u/Born_Consequence3025 8h ago

What occurred hurt his Qbr more than a spike would

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u/No-Deer379 New York Jets 8h ago

I guess a tie is ok tho

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u/BlenderTheBottle 8h ago

Yeah it’s an incompletion. A spike works mechanically because it’s the same as spiking the ball in the dirt on a normal pass play. It’s not grounding because technically there are players in the area as well as we all know what you’re doing so would be dumb to be a penalty.

Same for kneeling. It’s the same as if you handed the ball off and the running back fell down.

Completely legit plays that have came from within the rule book that “feel” different due to their situations but fits in the rules.

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u/Technical_Customer_1 7h ago

There’s actually just a special rule for spiking, it’s not because there are players in the area. 

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u/BlenderTheBottle 5h ago

Oh I legit did not know that. My dad always said it’s a legit play that we gave a special name and I guess I never fact checked the old man!

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u/get_ducked600 New York Giants 9h ago

Yes it's an incompletion

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u/Educational_Vast4836 Philadelphia Eagles 5h ago

His completion ratings yes, but qbr no.

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u/Statalyzer 57m ago

In the NFL yes. Kneel-downs hurt player rushing stats too.

In college those count as team incompletions and team rush stats, as well as a few other situations (e.g. a punter tries to pick up a low snap but his knee hits the ground).

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u/ThatOneHebdoCartoon Tennessee Titans 8h ago

When you're ready to see actual, high level play you know where to find us

https://giphy.com/gifs/PxXCARPnm1leSVT229

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u/redskinfan654 9h ago

Bro threw the ball away like 35 times vs the eagles

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u/artificialsword Philadelphia Eagles 9h ago

It’s more likely they just planned everything really really poorly 

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u/Routine-Author-5471 8h ago

How do you not know the situation at that stage of the game. That’s failing at the most basic of concepts in football

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u/Hodler_caved 8h ago

The asinine play call didn't help. There was no time to huddle up if you're running a play, as we saw.

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u/Old_Barracuda_536 3h ago

If you can't run a play from huddle with 45 seconds, you deserve to lose.

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u/Hodler_caved 3h ago

Agreed.

They called a play which required substitutions. 13 seconds on the clock when it was snapped. Clown show.

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u/GuitarVast8752 5h ago

Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson pulled this all the time too. They’d rather get sacked for two than throw an incomplete. 

When you start looking at stats that factor in these stat padding behaviors, they look noticeably worse. 

For example, running for 3 on a passing down is objectively a failure and if reflected in the stats it looks really bad

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u/Statalyzer 1h ago

True but without watching it, it's hard to tell; sometimes there just isn't a good place to throw the ball, and 3 is better than 0.

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u/Esoteric_Eclectic 9h ago

That checks out

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u/DorguHitsDingers 8h ago

Honestly it wouldn’t even surprise me. I’ve noticed a lot of QBs as of late running out of bounds taking a 1-2 yard loss instead of just throwing it away

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u/Statalyzer 1h ago

Tbf I've noticed that for decades.

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u/eddiestarkk New York Giants 4h ago

Even the wide receivers weren't hurrying back. Or maybe they thought he threw it away.

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u/Disclosjer Pittsburgh Steelers 6h ago

When he didn’t wear a brace on the elbow to start the year, I knew he wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.

https://giphy.com/gifs/tUuGVZOHh3xZzLZxy0

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u/Double-Emergency3173 Indianapolis Colts 9h ago

Basically he is like Rodgers & Burrow then

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 9h ago

Maybe a younger Rodgers. Old-man Rodgers will dirt the ball for literally no reason

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u/Special-General-7832 Las Vegas Raiders🏆🏆🏆 9h ago

🤨

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u/rook119 8h ago

Well he was a top 5 pick so it worked out fantastic.

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 8h ago

I still think he’s special, just needs some seasoning man

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u/I-LOVE-TURTLES666 6h ago

The same seasoning as RG3? Sure smells like it

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u/rook119 8h ago

Washington is a mess. They are old AF and don't even have a great cap situtation. Its one of those least likely to succeed teams.

Won't deny the talent tho.

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u/woatboat Washington Commanders 6h ago

We are neither old as fuck nor do we have salary cap issues.

We have a fuck ton of problems and you managed to name none of them.

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u/2ManyCatsNever2Many NFL Refugee 8h ago

he isn't alone. same reason watson ran it on 4th and 11 to end the game. no shot of getting a first down but didn't want a 50/50 ball that might get intercepted (or, just maybe, get a first down to keep cleveland's hope to win alive).

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u/Martha_Fockers 7h ago

You know what else suppresses your worth alot

Fucking up having a bad record and having a elbow made of a 1 year olds knee cartilage.

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u/gogoheadray 7h ago

This is absurd. JD5 throws the ball away all the time. His big issue when he first came into the league was he was always trying to never make a negative play. That’s why he always held onto the ball and would rarely throw it away. Thats not the case this year.

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 7h ago

Brother we’re saying the same thing

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u/gogoheadray 6h ago

Nope I’m saying he has thrown the ball away consistently for about two years now…

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u/I-LOVE-TURTLES666 6h ago

Commanders and taking a hot qb that’s broken by year 3 again. Woof

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u/TheTastefulColleague 17m ago

knew a guy in college who’d do the exact same thing, protect the stat sheet like it was his GPA

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u/Hfcsmakesmefart 11m ago

You’re full of shit, he just saw a wall of defenders and couldn’t throw it away

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u/averagesparky 8h ago

Definition of mid

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u/Legal_Key_5819 7h ago

But not win percentage..ok

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u/Effective-Baker-8333 7h ago

Bumbling away the win to preserve your completion % for a bigger extension.

It's a galaxy brain negotiation move only Reddit could think of.

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 7h ago

I don’t think he intended to lose the game, but I could be wrong

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u/jadestem Denver Broncos 2m ago

One of the most cooked takes I've ever seen. Like the GM wouldn't have this clip queued up before walking into the negotiation room.

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u/ZapFencePence Washington Commanders 7h ago

Damn I didn’t know a sack looks better on the stat sheet than a single incompletion, come on now

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 6h ago

He didn’t take a sack on that last drive in OT

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u/ZapFencePence Washington Commanders 6h ago

Yes he did lmfao he was tackled two yards short of the line on a passing play

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 6h ago

Bro did you watch the game

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u/ZapFencePence Washington Commanders 6h ago

Yeah you obviously didn’t

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 6h ago

My bad, I stand corrected. I thought he made it past the line of scrimmage

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u/Greedy_Wallaby7981 Denver Broncos 8h ago

Just an idiot doing something stupid. Guy can’t count past 5. Shouldn’t be surprised

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u/obio2332 HAIL TO THE [REDACTED] 5h ago

Alright slow down Bo Nix is still your QB

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u/Greedy_Wallaby7981 Denver Broncos 4h ago

Yes but no more Hackett as coach. That was vintage Hackett

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u/Iceman-Cometh_18 Tyson Bagent is a bum 9h ago

Really?

What a selfish prick he is to cost his team the game like that over his own stats

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u/steflund 9h ago

This is a random dude on the internet speculating, relax

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u/Iceman-Cometh_18 Tyson Bagent is a bum 9h ago

Is he wrong?

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 9h ago

Check the tape man. I live in Maryland and my uncle went to LSU so I’ve watched a lot of his games. He is lowkey a stat padder

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u/steflund 9h ago

You might be right but you know what stat gets you paid the most in this league? Wins.

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u/JadarianPryce Rob Lowe 9h ago

I mean, I agree. I am speculating but I’ve also watched a lot of his game. I think he just has to grow up and get some more experience.

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u/ZapFencePence Washington Commanders 7h ago

You obviously haven’t watched the tape if you missed week 1 against Philly, he threw the ball away plenty there

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u/Head-Assumption6960 9h ago

You’re too gullible for the internet lol

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u/Iceman-Cometh_18 Tyson Bagent is a bum 9h ago

It the truth

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u/Scalpum Washington Commanders 8h ago

You and OP deserve each other.

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u/Iceman-Cometh_18 Tyson Bagent is a bum 8h ago

So far no one has counter what OP said