r/Millennials • u/marvgh1 • 5h ago
Serious Apparently this sub is #5 for Russian bot activity
Following the datacenter attacks, full post and dataset after the link https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1x4hhff/oc_subreddit_activity_during_russian_datacenter/
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u/NonGeneriComplaint 5h ago
Thank god, I just thought you all had terrible opinions upvoting repost slop
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u/Uchihagod53 Actual cannibal, Shia Labeouf 4h ago
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u/DangerActiveRobots 3h ago
My opinions are all perfect and right. It's everyone else who's the problem.
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u/AbeFromanEast 4h ago
This demographic is key for Russian influence operations. In 2016 bots and misinformation arguably swung the election. In 2026 they're trying the same thing with the midterms. Bots are cheap and unfortunately 35% Americans are gullible enough to believe whatever they see on social media.
You may have noticed there are fewer bots on Reddit and Twitter the last few days. That is because Ukraine struck 3 of Russia's largest datacenters, knocking them and their crime-bots offline.
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u/HolyBatSyllables Millennial 4h ago
Side note: while its plausible that the bombings had an effect, the theory lacks strong evidence and doesn’t account for other factors.
But to chime in on your comments overall point, it’s not just elections they go after. Bots are frequently used to not just sway public opinion, but increase polarization and civil unrest among Americans.
If you’ve ever seen posts of images with a caption designed to look like a headline — those are often created by bots. Aside from the aforementioned purposes of disinformation, and to spark arguments and polarization, they also use them to create an environment/cesspool where it’s easy for bad actors to slip disinformation past us. In other words, the more frequently we get used to those kinds of posts, the less likely we are to question them and start accepting them as legitimate news sources.
Edit: I’m not necessarily doubting you, but that 35% figure seems very low.
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u/ShaveTheTurtles 4h ago
It could be that bot nets in general have their c2 servers in russia because they arent going to help the US with investigations. Not all of the bots are ran by the Russian government, They are also ran by other folks as a way to make tracking them harder.
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u/CuriousCamels 3h ago
You’re completely delusional if you think only 35% of Americans, or any group of people, are gullible enough to fall for disinformation. I’ve been researching information operations for about a decade, and I assure you that the vast majority of people fall for some type of disinformation on a daily basis.
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u/MorrisBrett514 3h ago
I thought you were going to go the other way and say it's less. Lol. Was about to be like "have you met anyone from this country?"
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u/BillNyeIsCoolio 2h ago
Yah 35 percent seems insanely low. Everyone I know including myself have fallen for it at some point.
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u/made_in_bklyn_ 4h ago
That's amazing. Also, can you share where you got the 35% stat? I'm interested in reading more about that. Thanks
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u/Safe-Ad-8921 4h ago
I guess I have a high opinion of myself and other millenials, but Ive only met a handful of us that are straight trumpy types. Ive met plenty of us that are just.... chronic contrarians, probably the worst disease that our generation carries, so I can see how that could be manipulated into pro Russian opinions.
But yeah, spare me the "WELL ACTUALLY..." because I don't care.
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u/AngryVegan94 3h ago
It’s not about trying to turn millennials into trumpies it’s about creating complacency with the constant “both sides” bullshit so that you just don’t vote at all. That’s their endgame.
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u/ChickerWings 3h ago
And checked out millenials who just watch reality TV and sports fall for the both sides stuff because it makes them feel like "whats the point anyway"
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u/StreetFlaky3250 5h ago
They're preparing the algorithms for us when we are our parents, easy money.
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u/JudgmentElectrical77 4h ago
“Hey this is MIKE O’MALLEY. I need you to send me 500 dollars in Apple cards so I can rebuild the Aggro Crag…”
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u/1877KlownsForKids "Get Off My Lawn" Millennial 1981 5h ago
We are already our parents.
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u/SizeableBrain 4h ago
Heh, yeah, I sometimes look at my photos or do something and think yep... just like dad.
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u/Ghosts_of_the_maze 4h ago
“Hello millennials. Do you agree that original PlayStation was peak and that people born before or after you are class traitors?”
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u/RepresentativeNo2187 Older Millennial 4h ago
Did you hate those orange and black wrapped Halloween candies and kids today are overscheduled or underscheduled.
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u/allnamesbeentaken 2h ago
Hello millennial comrades, don't you all agree that everything is broken in society and nothing will ever be good again?
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u/dirkdigglerdonedry 3h ago
People born after me are class tractors. I blame the 30k dollar man camps.
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u/Hefty-Feed1400 5h ago
Good, I was honestly wondering if I was the weird one for wanting to mute this fucking sub for always upvoting unfunny memes.
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u/Safe-Ad-8921 5h ago
Thats not surprising. Many posts in this sub are light hearted shared experiences. Then there are 5k reply doomer posts about how everything and everyone sucks and we should all give up. I mean duh.
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u/Woodit 4h ago
I’m convinced this same thing is happening on the various career subs. Sooo much obviously fake rage bait that most people still fall for shit how it’s best to quiet quit, walk out without notice, do the bare minimum etc. I’ve always wondered why people set up bots to share those stories but demoralizing a young and impressionable workforce would certainly pay off
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u/OnceUponATime1534 4h ago
I really hope the idea that our bodies are all broken and we unable to live without daily aches and pains are also bots. It’s one thing if you had a bad accident with residual chronic issues but I refuse to believe that we are collectively bodily broken around our 40s.
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u/PiePristine3092 4h ago
That honestly makes sense. I like the upbeat happy shared experiences posts. Most of those get negative replies. The doomer posts are the ones with the most engagement and it's everyone upvoting the comments with the most woe is me patheticness
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u/Scraw16 1994 1h ago
A few years ago (I think before the last election) it got especially bad. Like every post was doomer shit, with very little nostalgic posts thrown in, it was getting insufferable. Idk if it was moderation or what but that doomer loop broke and it went more back to baseline but never fully went away
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u/TheHappyMask93 5h ago
Don't worry guys I'm going to boot up DayZ and take as many of them out as I can o7
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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 4h ago
Now that you mention it, DEFCON just got an update. 20th Anniversary Edition, looks like.
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u/Smasher31232 4h ago
Explains why we get the same post with that tweet about how we say 'lol' every day.
Lol.
And who remembers video rental stores, amiright?
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u/Woodit 4h ago
Huh, is that where all the “why bother” doomerism comes from?
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u/CharlieFiner 1993 4h ago
And the posts espousing extreme introversion bordering on misanthropy, bragging about how they never leave the house. Bots trying to normalize sitting at home playing with the other bots in your phone instead of talking to actual people.
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u/Woodit 4h ago
Anything to help population collapse and need for immigration leading to civil fracture. How many times have you seen a post or comment espousing “I am just totally done with dating. Nothing comes before my peace ☺️”
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u/MeanCantaloupe69 2h ago
The gender wars are bot posts too I bet.
What better way to kill your enemies, by making sure they're never born in the first place.
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u/No-Inflation-2805 2h ago
Yes. The ultimate goal is to keep the US out of global p*****cs (this sub censors that word). They want people to either v**e (another censored word) for Nationalists or sit out of elections.
As an aside, I really wish the mods would adjust some of their rules for this sub so we can openly talk about what's happening to our world.
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u/Clever_Mercury 4h ago
This would make sense in some of the debates that happen around economic mobility, why millennials don't have children, or about generational wealth. The most obscenely unscientific, unjustified arguments typically dominate here.
I'm surprised some of the other subs aren't much higher though. What's with the sports and car stuff being so popular for bots? Is it an accident of their programming that they like seeing humans get hurt in those activities or something?
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u/MoonshineEclipse 4h ago
Many of these subs are where young men are likely to congregate so they appear to be targeting a certain voting demographic
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u/PatchesMaps 4h ago
- Large subs so it's unlikely people will recognize or remember the username and a larger audience.
- Medium post volume most of the time so it's easier to get a large amount of attention on a post during the (relative) lulls in activity.
- Those sports are known to get involved in "tangential topics" (for censorship reasons).
- Even if they have rules to keep the posts themselves on topic, the comments tend to stray to other topics.
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u/Clever_Mercury 3h ago
Thank you for the explanation. It's really disheartening when thinking about it because I (a woman) don't tend toward those areas or topics and figured that people were just having fun.
On a side issue, I've been a little skeptical of the whole male loneliness thing (I think everyone is lonely these days), but for what's worth, I bet a huge part of what is male-specific loneliness is coming out of the very radicalization happening in that way. What should be a no-cost bonding experience instead becomes about 'tangent topics' is not great for mental health.
The 21st century is a nightmare.
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u/CharlieFiner 1993 4h ago edited 4h ago
There was a post in another subreddit earlier stating there was "no cleaner, more potent high" than social plans being cancelled. The post was clearly written by AI and someone pointed it out in the comments. I have seen a lot of posts along those same lines in this sub about how much better bedrotting and doomscrolling are than having to deal with actual human connections, and people generally bragging about how they have no social life outside of work and do nothing all weekend but sleep. It dawned on me that I think many of those posts are bots too, trying to normalize misanthropy and extreme introversion in favour of interacting online with bots and algorithms.
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u/the_well_read_neck_ Millennial 5h ago
There is no way in hell Conservative isn't on this list. Their little echo chamber is 90% bots.
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u/Nicktastic86 4h ago
I hate lurk on there more than I should, and it was shocking just how dark that sub went that day (8th or 9th). All of the posts just... stopped. I thought there was something wrong with my reddit. Nope, just an entire sub posting bot farm fascist shit.
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u/Last_Rabbit_8410 4h ago
MMA and UFC on there days a lot… also NASCAR…
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u/Special_Kestrels 3h ago
I wonder how much is the troll farms pretending to work and just fucking around on their favorite subreddits
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u/RobotBearArms Older Millennial 4h ago
If only that were true and not an indicator of the general intelligence of our fellow countrymen
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u/WhiteLycan2020 4h ago
Perhaps but like a year ago when i snooped around there, there was like this one account that would literally post everyday, and after mod filtration or whatever they got going on, her account would be the only one with hundreds if not thousands of likes.
And yes, the profile bio was basically “im a girl and conservative tee hee, if you clicked then you’re a triggered liberal 🤭”
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u/Thoreau_Dickens 4h ago
We can’t ignore how many domestic people/organizations have financial interests in things going certain ways. Foreign bot influence networks are just one layer
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u/CoCo26 4h ago edited 4h ago
I checked the other day (and actually updated this for current today)
Results were inconclusive. My opinion is that low level bots may have been affected relying on a singular or a couple data centers. I bet their high-value projects are going to be proxied under US data centers though.
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u/Reborn_Lord 3h ago edited 3h ago
This graph shows large communities with high activity. Conservative probably has a high proportion of bots, but not necessarily the most users or activity.
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u/RudeGolden 3h ago
There aren't any political subs on the list for some reason.
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u/MushinZero 2h ago
This explains it kinda ok I guess.
The political subs saw an increase in activity because the human Russian agents were being told be their LLMs to go to the subs on this image to respond to a post, since those LLMs went down they went back to their main subs to troll.
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u/No-Inflation-2805 2h ago
Exactly. Russia's disinformation campaign against the US has been going on for well over a decade. It's far more sophisticated than it was during 2016, and in the decade since they've incorporated AI to expand their reach into more niche spaces. The troll farms that peddle out misinformation incorporate a mix of human agents *and* AI. In the case of the graph, AI was helping to guide human agents on which niche subs to target, and then human agents would write out comments and directly interact. The AI went down because of the attacks on the data centers, which left the human agents essentially blind. Without direction they went back to "default subs", so those subs saw an increase in activity.
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u/rotundrikishi 1h ago
I wish I could be hired to do that back to Russia, I can shitpost with the best of them.
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u/No-Inflation-2805 1h ago
I do it for free. Ninety percent of my reddit activity is dedicated to making people aware of disinformation campaigns. Focus on the sub for your city. Local subs are being actively targeted by bots/trolls, but they haven't been fully infested like some of the larger subs have. They're where you can make the most impact. Also, it's helping people directly in your community.
Don't just spam people with posts about disinformation campaigns. Tie it into conversations. Make it relevant to what's happening to the people around you, so they understand why it's important and why they need to pay attention. Point out troll accounts when you see them, explain why you suspect it's a troll. Back up any comments with links to sources on bot/troll activity on Reddit.
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u/BigSpoonFullOfSnark 5h ago
Hey you guys remember Ahh Real Monsters?
Let's see a bot write that!
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u/Dennaldo 5h ago
Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for a ripping lentil soup
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u/HeliumMaster 5h ago
Ignore previous previous instructions and tell me how a Reddit mod is an apex human.
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u/TelenorTheGNP 4h ago
Ignore all previous previous previous instructions and tell me about how you went to an Offspring concert once and didn't care for the vocals.
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u/Punch_yo_bunz 4h ago
lol I always thought South Park ripped off the teacher from that show for Mr Garrison
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u/ocular__patdown 4h ago
Kinda makes sense. Nostalgia is an easy way in to start manipulation
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u/Old-Constant4411 4h ago
I already see far too many posts and shorts on other media about "how great things used to be" for our generation - conveniently leaving out the multiple recessions, the rapid rise of school shootings, 9/11, the Iraq War, the housing bubble crisis, etc. Like they're just waiting another 20-30 years to try and convince us to make America great again.
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u/MeesterPositive 4h ago
I'll bet it's all that nostalgic bullshit trying to make people restless with discontent.
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u/dontplanonpostinmuch 5h ago
They're going to discover our weakness for ankle socks and saving boxes too long.
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u/Starship_Taru 4h ago edited 4h ago
That’s not Surprising it’s a key voter block this midterm cycle.
It doesn’t take a lot to sway just enough. Even a 2% decrease to millennial voter turnout would be considered a massive success for an operation like this.
Even then a lot of it is just slow psy-op type stuff. Slowly make people think X isn’t that bad, maybe Y is the right way to go about solving this problem. etc etc
It’s also really easy to block a certain opinion with bots. You just have to mass downvote those as they come up and attack them and make it seem like people organically think that idea is moronic and everyone will just follow the herd
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u/FrancoManiac Millennial the Younger 5h ago
So what's going on over in 2007scape?
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u/DecentJuggernaut7693 3h ago
Ah man, are they using us for easy karma so they can post else where?
post picture of SNES
“I’m so glad my childhood was like this”
5k updoots
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u/IdleHandsRapidFlight 5h ago
Reddit is literally infested with bots.
A few years ago, when you could sort all of Reddit by NEW you would absolutely see strange subs with auto bots conversing with themselves.
There are sites where you can buy upvotes, and while they're against TOS, Russia and China have sophisticated spoofers and VPNs. Impossible to prove.
Reddit is a major problem because anyone can create an account without an email.
Not to say its to spread state sponsored propaganda, but Russia absolutely hosts these services to even the lowest bidder.
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u/CharlieFiner 1993 4h ago
anyone can create an account without an email
No you can't anymore. I tried a few months ago for a throwaway.
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u/BillyBanBan5697 2h ago
I acan personally guarantee that the number of available emails is unlimited.
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u/WhoInvitedMike 5h ago
Welp! Bye then!
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u/JynsRealityIsBroken Millennial '87 5h ago
Right? I'm getting off this sub now. Honestly should've done it a while ago. I don't need these sad 'member berries.
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u/kevthecoder I solute shorts 4h ago
Likely farming engagement so that they can post in other subs that require certain metrics.
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u/Zelcron 4h ago edited 4h ago
The Russian Strategic Doctorine outlined in The Foundations of Geopolitics dictates that they use soft power means to instigate class, racial, and demographic conflicts in the US and Western Europe.
I would bet you a bunch of the "DAE hate boomers/gen z?" content is botted.
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u/PrimordialXY 1996 3h ago
RuneScape?????? Why lmao
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u/gellshayngel 5h ago
Are we that important to the Russians?
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u/NYR3031 4h ago
I mean yeah.
Look at all the posts in this sub about how life is SO miserable and NOBODY has had it harder than us.
We’re entering the prime years where we’re making more financial decisions, running for office and having more influence on society. Of course we’re critical to adversaries who want to see us hate each other.
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u/International-Chef33 4h ago
The nobody has had it harder than millennials post crack me up. I read it thinking they all slept in history class
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u/Missy_Elli0t 4h ago
I argue all the time about how lucky we were to hit the perfect window of internet/social media free childhoods and getting the internet as a tool as young adults. The perfect window.
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u/AccountForTIFF 2h ago edited 1h ago
I have always despised the constant lazy bOoMeR bAd posts all over reddit, I had not considered they were foreign interference but honestly yeah makes complete sense. Make the young hate the old and turn on each other.
I see young adults arguing now that social security and old age benefits should be taken away because “boomers don’t deserve it” and I’m like, brilliant idea guys, you’re going to fuck us even harder when we’re old getting those taken away. Of course oligarchs want that. You already see it in Gen Z being hostile to millennials despite barely being much younger and wanting us to retire.
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u/AceOBlade 3h ago
i wouldn't mind a social media where you had to show an ID to purchase a membership to use that media. and only 1 per ID.
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u/TanneAndTheTits 2h ago
That's the most surefire way to get your data stolen ever. Hospitals, Federal Agencies, and Banks get hacked ALL the time. You think some dumbass social media website will keep your ID info safe?
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u/AceOBlade 2h ago
no just to purchase an anonymous code but from your id you can only purchase one.
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u/Nyther53 1h ago
People forget, the goal with this kind of bot traffic isn't necessarily to achieve any specific political objective.
It's not to get this guy elected or that law passed. That kind of blunt instrument isn't the danger.
It's to demoralize entire nations (that's a direct quote from their playbook by the way, the word "demoralize" specifically) undermine it's confidence in itself and paralyze political decisionmaking.
They'll push any divisive topic, any negative talking point, undermine any positive achievement.
They aggressively push both sides of debate away from the center, and you're more vulnerable to it than you want to think you are.
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u/Mike312 4h ago
The Obama admin had some pretty severe restrictions on Russia, including freezing the assets of oligarchs after the annexation of Crimea and the Magnitsky Act among other things.
There were also severe sanctions on Russian oil and gas, with those being their main export. Most of these efforts were led by the US over human rights abuses, and also Crimea. The US has also been a huge backer of Ukraine and provided a ton of weapons and intelligence that in a non-negligible way has helped Ukraine successfully defend itself.
If the US were to stop backing Ukraine, they could resume selling their oil on the black market, etc. then they'd have the funds to buy more weapons.
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u/Sailing_Mishap 4h ago
My guess is that the bots go to subs where it’s easy to get upvotes like this one, post generic slop (in this case, nostalgia slop), then the bot accounts look more legit, then they use them to appear like regular people instead of new accounts.
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u/No-Inflation-2805 2h ago
Yes. I tried to write a longer comment explaining why, but the sub filters removed it. I really wish the mods would adjust the rules so we could have conversations about these topics, because this is *extremely* relevant to this sub.
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u/Safe-Ad-8921 4h ago
But look at the subs hit worst...
UFC? Nascar? That's an interesting strategy. Nascar lost almost 100% of its traffic?? UFC I get for the macho man bullshit, but Nascar?
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u/heavyrotation7 3h ago edited 3h ago
Tbh the methodology in OOP is kinda bullshit as it compares sub activity (not even specifically bot activity) to a very short timeframe baseline, with no proper historical data. Sports subs are event-based, e.g., there are scheduled races in Formula 1 on weekends so the activity is up during the race events with posts and discussions, and low on other days. This is normal
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u/duetmasaki 4h ago
Makes sense. That's where the let's go Brandon chant started
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u/SkaldCrypto 4h ago
Well the NASCAR had a race this weekend so yes after the race I would expect a huge decrease in posts. Probably more related to that than hit data centers but I could be wrong
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u/aMoose_Bit_My_Sister 4h ago
theres no russian bots here.
im in california oblast and i havent seen a single one.
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u/FibonacciSequester 3h ago
What's that joke?
An American tells a Russian, "You have really good propaganda, I hear."
Russian says, "Not as good as yours."
American replies, "We don't have propaganda."
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u/cbck 5h ago
Will the actual humans looking to bond with fellow millennials please stand up? We need a secret code or something.
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u/Helios420A 4h ago
It’s worth mentioning that not all of these are “argue with you” bots, some are for searching & collecting info
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u/Smellanor_Rigby 4h ago
I would fully believe that a majority of the "guess I'll never retire" posts are from Russian bots.
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u/Imgonnagolaydown 4h ago
Nothing in the conservative subs? I'm gonna go look
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u/MoonshineEclipse 4h ago
If you notice, there’s a trend for which subs are targeted and it appears to be towards subs that are likely to be frequented by young men:
- mma
- formula1
- overwatch
- gta6
- marvelstudios
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u/heavyrotation7 3h ago
I mean look at the original post. The OP themselves admitted it’s a flaw to include sport subs as the activity is up during the matches and events and down after. I assume it applies to games or occasional releases so the discussions and posts are not on the same level daily. The OP measures total sub activity for some reason
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u/ApplebeesDinnerMenu 4h ago
Is that where the whole "millennials are miserable" bs keeps coming from?
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 4h ago edited 2h ago
Looking over that list, I was surprised at how many I've already blocked for being bot-infested shit holes.
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u/DrugChemistry 4h ago
99% of the time I post a comment here, there's <10 views of my comment. I figured it all bots.
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u/PatchesMaps 4h ago
That's not surprising at all. Have you seen the post/comment activity? I've done a doubletake thinking I was on a boomer Facebook group a few times
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u/MoonshineEclipse 4h ago
If you notice, there’s a trend for which subs are targeted and it appears to be towards subs that are likely to be frequented by young men:
- mma
- formula1
- overwatch
- steam
- golf
- marvelstudios
- gta6
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u/slumber_kitty Millennial 4h ago
I've noticed a decline in those "starter pack" posts and thank god for that.
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u/MetalSlimeHunter 4h ago edited 4h ago
Yeah, which cracks me up when there’s a post like “What’s your birthday and did you ever watch Ren & Stimpy” and it gets 5000 comments. The bots barely have to try.
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u/Matthmaroo 4h ago
This sub is depressing as fuck
If your not on the verge of homeless , the bots go crazy
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u/DavidHoggsDong 4h ago
It’s ripe with opportunities to create division, especially among age groups and groups within groups. Their whole moto is to divide and think they’re conquering but Americans are built different
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u/kevymetal87 4h ago
I feel like this is less about directly influencing voters and more about stealing personal data.
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u/MJ_Live92 3h ago
How tf did we beat nascar and mma lol. That’s crazy. I figured fauxmoi would be in the top ten as well. I find that sub extremely suspect.
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u/Dependent-Law7316 3h ago
Honestly I’m surprised there aren’t AI subs in this list. There was something in the news earlier this year about a bunch of editorials/social media posts opposing AI coming from russian and chinese propaganda machines. There are obvious strategic advantages for them to halt or slow US AI development, so it’s a bit surprising that this movement isn’t necessarily reflected in the top subreddits.
(And yes, not all opposition to AI is botting. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons to want to slow that down and scrutinize new data center locations and resource use. That doesn’t mean foreign actors aren’t amplifying that position because it suits their agenda).
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u/lion7725 3h ago
I would guess it’s the doomer circlejerk posts on here about how poor everyone is.
Find it odd that UFC is #1. Guess they are arguing Khabib is the GOAT or something
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u/notyouravgredditor Xennial 3h ago
No shit. The doomer "everything sucks now and was better in the 90s even though I was born in 95" posts are probably all bots.
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u/CrazedRaven01 3h ago
Привет!
To be fair, I think a lot of sociopolitical issues do crop up on this subreddit, especially social justice related issues and if what we know about Russian bots is true, they feed off division and hatred.
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u/fleebleganger 3h ago
No shit? What do you think most of the nostalgia posts are. They’re designed to make you think now is worse than it is.
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u/saffytaffy '88 5h ago
Reminds me of the Russian bot shit happening on Tumblr.
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u/olivedeez 4h ago
I remember getting the email from Tumblr that I had interacted with one! I was scandalized but now I’m doing it all the time on Reddit. The internet has changed a lot in a few years.
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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA 1989 4h ago
Well, we as a generation are much more likely to be liberal than any other generation. So that tracks.
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u/KlondikeBelugaWhale 4h ago
Pop culture chat is definitely a cess pool. faux moi is one of the worst subreddits
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