r/LosAngeles • u/MaxPotato08 South L.A. • 7h ago
Discussion Mayoral Debate Live Discussion Thread
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u/jonnyshotit 6h ago
Bass defending Forest lawn drive pretending she didn’t block the project cause the cemeteries told her so
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u/Vernost 6h ago
Also funny when Bass implied that there were nefarious organizations backing Raman on that project. Like what, is there a “Big Bike” and “Let’s not run people over” cartel that I don’t know about?
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u/markrevival Alhambra 5h ago
r/BikeLA democracy in action I'm so proud. I guess bass hates democracy
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u/gregatronn 2h ago
Bass likes a paycheck. Follow that and you will see her view on each topic/policy
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u/ImperialRedditer Glendale 6h ago
The residents of forest lawn can’t vote…. Because they’re dead.
Also most of the people driving through forest lawn drive are from Glendale/Burbank. We can’t vote in the LA Mayors race.
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 5h ago
I’m not from Glendale or Burbank and I take Forest Lawn 2-3x a week
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u/ImperialRedditer Glendale 5h ago
Good for you. I do believe you count as 1 person unless you count yourself as 1000 people.
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 5h ago
Do you think only people from Burbank and Glendale need to get between the 101 and 134?
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u/ImperialRedditer Glendale 5h ago
I do believe that you count as 1 person. Unless you’re the only person who uses Forest Lawn Drive, then my statement is false.
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u/sleepytimegirl In the garden, crumbling 6h ago
Dead people having an outsize influence on this election.
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 6h ago
It’s getting a protected bike lane, wtf are people mad about?
This is fake outrage. In no way do most people support turning Forest Lawn into traffic hell. It wasn’t just the cemetery that didn’t want it, the residents didn’t either.
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u/TravelinStyle 6h ago
It's a road safety project not just bike lanes. People keep dying on that road because it's built like a freeway. Someone died there just a few months ago after Bass delayed it.
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 6h ago
There have been 4 deaths on that road in the last 13 years, with tens of thousands of people taking the road every day. This is a commonly used, critical traffic artery.
Add speed cameras to it and call it a day. I’m fine with measures to reduce speeding there but people still gotta go to work.
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u/TravelinStyle 5h ago
LADOT did a traffic study, the determined the road is over built for the volume of traffic and the rush hour average delay would be 23 seconds. And being ok with 4 deaths to save some seconds per day is a wild take. Speed cameras are a limited pilot program in California, you can't install them every where, LA city is already maxed on where they can put them.
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u/DayleD 5h ago
Maxed because of a state law? The terms of the pilot?
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u/TravelinStyle 5h ago
Yea Los Angeles is limited to 125 cameras. It's a pilot that goes to 2032. To have more the state would have to pass a new bill to allow.
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u/Significant_Chip3775 5h ago
“It’s a critical traffic artery”
No, it’s actually not. It literally runs next to and parallel to a major freeway and is easily bypassed. It’s a traffic cut through - calling it a critical artery is a real stretch.
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u/Significant_Chip3775 5h ago
Which residents? There aren’t homes along forest Lawn Dr. What’s your source for this claim?
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 5h ago
The Oakwood Apartments for one
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u/Significant_Chip3775 5h ago edited 4h ago
That’s one apartment building lol. On Barham. And the source for your claim that residents oppose the proposed changes?
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 5h ago
Oakwood is a gigantic complex with anywhere from 600-1000 residents at any given time
There’s lots of people living in LA city limits within a few minutes of there
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u/Significant_Chip3775 4h ago edited 4h ago
So again, one complex, on Barham. And I ask again, what is the source for your claim that residents oppose these proposed street safety improvements?
I’m going to assume from your refusal to cite a source that you have no source and you admit that you made that claim up. I looked and couldn’t find any evidence to back your claim.
What I did find however is that over 60% of voters in CD4 voted in support of HLA in 2024, which was a mandate for implementing LA’s existing mobility plan.
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u/cienfueggos 6h ago
It’s always fun to watch these things when the candidates viscerally hate each other lol
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u/Immediate_Map235 7h ago
karen said palisadean 😭😭 free palisades
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u/ImperialRedditer Glendale 6h ago
Gotcha! Karen bass just got called out being in the pocket of wealthy Angelenos. Funny how she gets a lot of calls from Sherman oaks but what happened for those in Boyle heights.
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u/sourpaloma 6h ago
Loved this moment
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u/lsf_stan 6h ago
she enjoys helping the Angelenos that can probably afford to donate to her campaign more easily? 🤔 priorities
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u/300_pages 6h ago
Karen Bass called the cops on us when we were protesting ICE at the detention center. Never forget it
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u/yungcdollaz 7h ago
whole city is angry at local government for not doing their jobs and Bass is flexing that no one likes to work with Nithya. Sounds like she's keeping people accountable and they don't like it
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u/LosAngeles1s 7h ago
Nolan sucks as a moderator holy fuck
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u/lsf_stan 7h ago edited 5h ago
he is heavily moderate democrat/centrist gop vibes, therefore really against anyone associated with DSA
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u/No_Bus6364 5h ago
I have to disagree. I think they did a good job bashing both candidates. It's the candidates responsibility to expose and emphasize their rivals flaws.
That said, I'm leaning towards Raman. We need a change. Somebody with fresh ideas and expects to strive to do more when the system fails. I see Raman as imperfect, but willing to take accountability instead of pointing fingers.
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u/sourpaloma 7h ago
Why are they attacking Nithya and not coming after Karen Bass at all
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u/sourpaloma 6h ago
Once again! They bring up affordable housing and ULA, and blame Nithya for ULA while saying nothing about Karen Bass. What about Karen Bass changing ED1 to exempt single family neighborhoods?
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u/yeahnototallycool 6h ago
And god forbid a politician admit they want to update law when they realize the results from the law they initially support didn't yield the intended results. I hate when someone is willing to evolve their thinking!!!
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u/sourpaloma 6h ago
They were so desperate to make it a gotcha moment, and it’s just not. Karen Bass is a mayor for the rich and the rich only.
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u/sourpaloma 6h ago
This is just me live tweeting at this point. We have 10,000 vacant affordable units? Girl those are income and population restricted! Gtfo.
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u/PiscesStudio 7h ago
Bass was dishonest when she said the homeless funding was cut. What she is referring to is the state refusing to allocate more dollars until each mayor was able to create a better plan. I'm going to look for dates because I'm 99% she was in office when this happened.
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u/PiscesStudio 7h ago
So the freeze began a few weeks before she took office BUT the pushback from big city mayors began shortly after she was mayor so she articulated that poorly. She should have said funds were frozen due to poor planning and a projection of 2% success.
- The Initial Freeze: Demanding "More Ambitious" Plans
In November 2022, Gov. Newsom made headlines by temporarily freezing $1 billion in state homelessness grants under the Homeless Housing, Assistance, and Prevention (HHAP) program. [1, 2]
- The Reason: He rejected every local application, stating that collective city and county plans would only reduce street homelessness by 2% statewide over four years. Newsom called the low targets "unacceptable". [1, 2, 3]
- The Outcome: After intense pushback from big-city mayors—who argued the delay crippled local shelter operations—Newsom held an "intervention" meeting in Sacramento. He agreed to release the frozen funds only to local jurisdictions that revised their proposals with much higher reduction targets and more aggressive housing strategies
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u/wasneveralawyer Whatever the weather, we'll get through it together. 7h ago edited 7h ago
You’re also being disingenuous. The state had a worse economic outlook and did do budget cuts. It hit interim housing the hardest. This is also a reality Nithya will face if she becomes mayor. That there isn’t as much funding from the state and the federal government
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u/PiscesStudio 6h ago
Oh, I know! I wasn't attempting to be disingenuous. I mentioned it because she said funding was cut when she mentioned Inside Safe which started in 12/22. Funds were not cut, they were frozen because the plans the mayors presented were not strong enough. I do know funds have been cut. Please pardon me for presenting information in a confusing manner.
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u/BretFarve 6h ago
Is there any chance Bass wins?
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u/FedeFofo Sherman Oaks 6h ago
Yes, definitely. Raman has been doing well in most polls but Bass's base (older, homeowners) are much more reliable voters than Raman's.
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u/BendableBender 5h ago
Raman is a great policy wonk, but she needs to be more offensive and punchy. Abdul El Sayed is a great example of this; part of being a good candidate on the campaign trail is being good at trolling and teasing your opponent.
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u/jeanpaulfartre 4h ago
Or, you could say, part of being a good politician is having charisma. Certainly helps when it comes to winning elections, at least. Bass and Raman are both duds on that front.
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u/SmellGestapo I LIKE TRAINS 7h ago
Bass looks terrible so far. Going low, saying nobody wants to work with Nithya and she's "not ready for prime time" because of a stupid video her team didn't even make.
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u/Yardbird52 7h ago edited 6h ago
Not a fan of Bass but I know from union leaders Nithya has made promises about council votes and didn’t follow through. Multiple times.
Edit: to clarify
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u/Virtblue 6h ago
That can also be read as the unions told her to do something and she did not do it. Also fuck the FD union.
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u/Yardbird52 6h ago
How so? If she agreed to vote in the interest of unions and then didn’t show up to the vote
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u/Virtblue 6h ago
Who said she agreed is what i'm questioning. One has a vested intrest to lie if somone is voting agaisnt you anyway.
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u/Yardbird52 6h ago
I don’t know what deeper intel you want. Multiple leaders of unions in LA have relayed this to me. That’s what i personally have heard. You can take it how you want.
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u/ridetotheride 4h ago
You hang out with multiple heads of unions? Which unions?
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u/Yardbird52 10m ago
I’m a union member and I know other people in unions. We talk. Notice how many unions didn’t endorse any candidate for the primaries. Also there are a lot of unions who have still not endorsed either candidate. This late in a race that is crazy. IBEW, teamster, I don’t think ILWU has endorsed anyone.
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u/ZandrickEllison 6h ago
I’ve talked to a few “insiders” too and they have nothing but negative things to say about Nithya and Bass both.
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u/BendableBender 6h ago
Bass really didn’t have anything to back her terrible record as mayor up on, so she spent most of the time bashing nithya instead of saying why we should elect her all over again and have 4 more years of mismanaged budgets and endless police spending.
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u/Haunting-Security694 7h ago
Where to watch
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u/wanderlust-ninja 7h ago edited 7h ago
YouTube English: https://www.youtube.com/live/Ct3vDLZaC0I
YouTube Spanish: https://www.youtube.com/live/8ACcoKMeVoI
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u/Technical-Walrus-470 6h ago
So a person with Bass' campaign knocked on my door during the debate. I told him I'm not voting for Bass and he asked if it was because I didn't like her glasses. Seriously?
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u/ridetotheride 4h ago
I had someone and she asked why and I said bike lanes and then she talked to me about how she just moved from Oakland and they built all these great bike lanes.
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u/Immediate_Map235 7h ago
the sf mention - i went to sf and i will say there's way less homeless on the street but it creeped me the fuck out ngl. Felt eerily empty
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u/Immediate_Map235 6h ago
Reminder that all city hall employees were also made to go into work during the Lineage fire because Bass wanted it to look good for the world cup. Knew multiple people who worked there that weren't sent home until like halfway through the day several days into the fires
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u/xDerivative 7h ago
Moderators just setting up attacks on Raman for Bass every time sort of ridiculous
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u/The_Pandalorian Culver City 6h ago
Raman isn't doing great in terms of appealing to non-reddit normies. It pains me to say that.
She's not a great debater and Bass is holding her own, sadly.
I say this as a Bass hater (she used to be my Rep and was fucking useless).
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u/demolitionherbie 5h ago
Non Reddit normies aren’t watching anyways
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u/Night247 5h ago edited 3h ago
yeah they way to busy doom scrolling or whatever to care about
the upcoming election, thank you China's Tik Tok app...6
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u/gringo-tacos South Pasadena 5h ago
No..they're trying to figure out if they're pro Kelly Clarkson or pro Art of Play.
I'm still with Kelly on this one.
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u/Night247 5h ago
Art of Play
wtf is that?
and wtf is this Kelly drama
https://www.tmz.com/2026/10/13/kelly-clarkson-on-security-cameras-at-brooklyn-store/
LOL?
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u/okfine_illbite Northeast L.A. 3h ago
I’m still confused about her fandom, I had no idea it was so large and unhinged until this
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u/MookieBettsBurner11 I LIKE TRAINS 4h ago
No even people outside Reddit hate Bass. I live close to the Eastside, and people are FURIOUS over the Boyle Heights fire.
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u/The_Pandalorian Culver City 4h ago
I mean, LA is a big place and lots of squares probably are skeptical of Raman/DSA affiliations.
We'll see. I hope she unseats Bass. Not sure the debate helped, though.
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u/cynnamonn 3h ago edited 3h ago
they wouldn’t even formally endorse her in the primary, what is there to be skeptical about? the city is overwhelmingly liberal and i doubt many angelenos are being fear mongered by the word “socialism”
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u/The_Pandalorian Culver City 2h ago
I mean, Chicago rejected a popular DSA candidate. It's still a novelty party in most places.
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u/Professional_Edge476 4h ago
Let me check out this debate, but seeing Raman in stuff like that Higher Learning interview she did a couple weeks ago, she really isn’t good at getting her general points across. She’s not ready for the big leagues yet.
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u/The_Pandalorian Culver City 4h ago
Yeah I didn't see that interview but your impression tracks with what I saw at tonight's debate.
I mean, she wasn't a trainwreck. Just... Not that good.
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u/Professional_Edge476 4h ago
Duly noted then. For context, the bit I took umbrage with in her Higher Learning interview was how she initially endorsed Bass, but then said she was waiting for someone like Rick Caruso to run against Bass again, but when no one else was throwing their hat in the ring, she threw hers in right before the deadline. What else does she say she supports but secretly doesn’t? There’s also an awkward segment in there when Van Lathan asked her to name her Top 5 LA rappers, where she just listed Nipsey Hussle, 2Pac (who’s not from LA) and Snoop Dogg.
Basically when she’s asked to stray away from rehearsed media trained talking points, it doesn’t go well for her IMO.
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u/gringo-tacos South Pasadena 5h ago
Raman isn't doing great in terms of appealing to non-reddit normies. It pains me to say that.
Absolutely. As you can see in my flair, I can't vote in the mayors race. But I can't imagine Facebook Neighborhood groups or IG LAUSD moms voting for her
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u/ridetotheride 4h ago
Plenty of LAUSD moms I talk to want safer streets so our kids can walk to school. Of course we are in Echo Park/Silver Lake so it’s going to skew Raman.
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u/The_Pandalorian Culver City 5h ago
Same. I'm in Culver, so not my horse race.
Pains me to see Bass come off as possibly the more reasonable one, because she's truly awful, lol.
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u/beeemkcl 3h ago
Unless this debate moves the polling 5+ points in Bass’s direction, Nithya Raman is going to be the next mayor of Los Angeles.
Remember that the even the California Governor’s debates didn’t move polling enough. Tom Steyer crushed in the main ones.
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u/The_Pandalorian Culver City 2h ago
I think you're probably right, but Bass definitely has a shot, still.
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u/DoctorFredburger 7h ago
Wtf is Bass' vision? She needs to go relax with the grandkids. Thank you for your time.
The extra free time might help her finally find some wiggle room in her schedule to meet with Congress on LAHSA fraud.
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u/LABlues 4h ago
Nobody gonna acknowledge that Raman said the era of Daryl Gates was the gold standard of policing?
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u/Eco-Dude 3h ago
I caught this too, and immediately shouted WTF! I voted for Nithya in the primary, but to make a comment like that shows a complete lack of understanding of Los Angeles’ history
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u/Dinovius 2h ago
Hahahahaha
Someone argued with me earlier that she’s as great and fantastic as Mamdani because she’s DSA
no. Mamdani is an amazing mayor. I called it. She’s gunna be a mayor of terrible ideas
Garcetti voted in: YEY WOOO!
Garcetti leaving: BOO GO AWAY
Bass being voted in: YEY WE LOVE YOU OMG YEY!
Bass leaving: BOOO OMG YOU SUCK!
Ramen when she’s voted in: OMG OMG WE DID IT OMG SHES AMAZING A NEW CHAPTER!
Ramen when she’s leaving: BOOO HOW COULD YOU!
It’s like, yo Los Angeles I moved here ten years ago, an amazing city amazing people but you guys really are kinda smug voted for the worst people primaring the dumbest people, cheering when they are voted in and 4 years later wonder what the hell went wrong?
I am NOT a Republican, I am GLAD we kept Pratt out
But I also said I was disappointed because ain’t shit getting better under any of these people.
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u/Eco-Dude 3h ago edited 3h ago
Did anyone else catch Nithya shoutout Daryl Gates (Former Police Chief) calling him the gold standard? As someone who has been in this city long enough to remember Daryl Gates (which Nithya hasn’t) she needs to immediately retract that sentiment. Daryl Gates instituted a mass surveillance program that infiltrated leftist groups in the 80s and 90s. He also started the Crash Squad (Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums) which perpetrated the war on drugs and led to the Rampart Division scandal. Know your history folks. Did she also start off by quoting Ronald Regan? What are we doing here?
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u/grendel_loki Culver City 7h ago
Bass seems to be the more reasonable thus far, while Raman seems wishy washy
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u/More-read-than-eddit Toluca Lake 7h ago
I've always though Raman basically sucks as a candidate. But Bass is simply a non-starter for re-election. She is outside of the conversation entirely. Raman could sit in bed for the entirety of 4 years and it would be no different from Bass giving it her all. Sucks that this is the standard but that's life.
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u/Snuffleupagus27 6h ago
As someone who lives in Raman’s district, Bass is bad but Raman is so much worse
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u/wasneveralawyer Whatever the weather, we'll get through it together. 5h ago
I think it’s ok to say that they both aren’t good. Truly the push behind Raman isn’t that she’s good, it’s that she isn’t Bass but the city deserves more than that and she’s not offering it. Sadly she will likely win.
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u/Thagreatone92 5h ago
Iv been saying this from the jump and I know I will get shit for it. But Raman seems and has always seemed like a younger Karen bass another politician off the old chopping block. I dont understand how people can defend Raman being a part of a homeless initiative that took 65 million dollars. And houses only 3 families how is she gonna be the one to solve our issues. When she knows people and probably socializes with the people that cause our problems to never change.
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u/gringo-tacos South Pasadena 4h ago
Here is the problem. She cannot frame herself as an outsider, while she was a council member.
Like how she wants to fire the LAPD even though she confirmed his appointment. She complains about homeless mismanagement, but she also approved the motions to support LAHSA.
She endorsed Bass weeks before her own running.
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u/LAguy8394 3h ago
This might be the most rigged debate I’ve ever seen. Old ass NIMBYs screeching and giving Karen Bass layups while doing three follow-ups on social media post trying to villainize Ramen.
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u/mmusic321 6h ago
They agreed strongly with each other on the San Francisco question. They were asked why can’t we just do what San Francisco is doing. Treatment or jail. It’s working. Both said, well we have no room in jail or treatment center beds. So I guess that’s all she wrote then. 😂 There’s nothing that can be done, so let’s just accept that this crisis will never end. Glad I left my ballot blank for mayor. Good luck LA.
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u/BigShmulik97 Woodland Hills 7h ago
This is a debate on how to keep homeless people protected
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u/BigShmulik97 Woodland Hills 7h ago
There’s zero talks about the common citizen 17 minutes in
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u/OhLawdOfTheRings I LIKE TRAINS 7h ago
any talk about addressing the homeless situation is the number one issue for "common citizens"
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u/BigShmulik97 Woodland Hills 7h ago
Bass said if homeless are arrested they’ll just be released cause jails are full…Raman wants as many recovery centers as possible whether it’s commercial or residential. How exactly does that address anything? Common citizens still pay for it and live with it. Neither will or can say how exactly treatment will be executed. They’re just demanding funding
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u/OhLawdOfTheRings I LIKE TRAINS 7h ago
you don't like their answers, but to pretend like talking about homelessness isn't an something that is a HUGE issue for all of us (regardless of how they want to solve it) is just silly
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 6h ago
Bass sounded like a boring but qualified person but Raman sounded like an idiot. Literally the only way you think Raman won this is if you were already voting for her regardless.
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u/VintageSuede 6h ago
I found it to be distracting and somewhat suspicious that Raman kept looking down like she was reading from notes hidden in her lap. Obviously the candidates weren’t able to bring any notes in with them and she wasn’t doing that, but the optics of it looked bad.
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u/ringdingdeng 3h ago
Raman is not ready for the job she is applying for at all. She's lying and being disingenuous all night. The deer in headlights responses as if she hasn't been on the council for so long is frustrating to watch.
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u/LosAngeles1s 7h ago
The moderators are too soft on bass and she’s still fumbling it lol