r/LiveFromNewYork • • Dec 15 '25

Discussion A former writer speaks up

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u/rundeanmc Dec 16 '25

Guarantee SNL as a business has a membership for shutterstock so there’s really no excuse

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u/chadnorman Dec 16 '25

^ This. I operate a small business and even we have an Adobe Stock subscription. No excuse indeed.

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u/Grandpas_Spells Dec 16 '25

SNL is a satire program and uses trademarked and copyrighted images all the time without remuneration or consent of the subjects. It falls under fair use.

Businesses must pay because they're using images for commercial purposes.

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u/chadnorman Dec 16 '25

I know that's the case for brand names/logos/marks and individuals, but does satire protect any image scraped from the web?

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u/Grandpas_Spells Dec 16 '25

Yes.

Whether a person does a Google image search, or uses a tool that did the same thing, there's no distinction when it comes to carve-outs for satire.

That is why this discussion is weird. There's a great argument that training companies, for example, should pay shutterstock for stock images rather than using AI generated ones that scraped shutterstock to create new ones, but used shutterstock for training data.

But SNL does not fall under that argument. They were already using this stuff and not paying for it.

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u/Worldly_Influence_18 Dec 16 '25

I suspect they did this as a test

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u/chadnorman Dec 16 '25

You can filter out AI options in Adobe by checking a box, which I do every time along with a few other filters depending on what I'm looking for. But it does suck that it is "on" by default + if you want to use AI slop you can just make it yourself.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Dec 17 '25

According to the lonely island podcast there's a weekly limit. Like 2000 images.

One week they downloaded 2000 sloth images in an hour for the sloth video and then everyone was locked out for the rest of the week. Update was pissed

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u/normal_cartographer Dec 18 '25

I remember hearing Jorm say that and laughing. It’s funny now but, if I was working that show and that happened, I would be pissed. There’s already so much pressure on the show.

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u/bullcitytarheel Dec 17 '25

Right. This technology is being pushed from on high into everything you use and watch because a whole lot of extremely powerful and wealthy people have an extreme amount of money riding on it. Important to push back on its lazy implementation in places like this where pushback can be effective.

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u/Nickk_Jones Dec 17 '25

How would pushback here be effective lol? Sure it’s AI, but it wasn’t some crazy or unique image where having an artist do it would’ve changed or made it better in any way. When the other option is literally stock images, what’s really the difference? I say this as someone who refuses to use AI and thinks all the dorks using it to exist in the world is lame.

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u/bullcitytarheel Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25

What’s really the difference?

  1) The picture being used sucks. It’s immediately obvious it’s not a real person, the slot machines look like arcade cabinets displaying iPhone desktops rather than slots and everything pictured looks uncanny. It’s an ugly cartoon facsimile that isn’t even properly illustrating the thing it’s meant to illustrate. It’s cheap. It’s lazy. And worst of all it distracts from the joke.

2) Forcing these systems into our workflows is designed specifically to move money from the professionals who do this work into the pockets of billionaire pieces of garbage, regardless of the work being subpar or whether anyone would choose to use or engage with it were we not being forced to. It’s therefore very important to let companies know that allowing the AI industry to hijack their workflows is more trouble than it’s worth by calling them out because, unless there’s pushback, they’ll continue until everything becomes sloppy garbage like this.

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u/nel-E-nel Dec 17 '25

NBCuniversal even

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u/brienneofbark Dec 21 '25

As a full time designer, yes but Shutterstock and all stock sites have different pricing based on distribution. It gets exponentially more expensive the more people see it. And SNL is gonna be in the hundreds of thousands if not millions sometimes.