r/Line6Helix • u/terrorbethyname • 2d ago

General Questions/Discussion Looper reverse effect

I haven't bought a helix yet I'm trying to research everything first so I have a full understand of if I'm going to need any additional pedals to the helix if it can't do everything I want when I rebuild my rig from 15+ effects down to as minimal as possible pedals/rack effects, so if I could get away with just the helix and 2 expansion exp pedals that'd be amazing.

Essentially I want to play through the looper reverse so my guitar will come through backwards like the boomerang phrase sampler can do. With the boomerang if you press direction before tapping record 2times to establish the length of the loop your guitar will play backwards simultaneously while youre playing your guitar but if you press the thru mute button you will only hear the reverse guitar. Is the Helix capable of doing this? or will I need my boomerang along with the Helix to accomplish this?

https://youtu.be/AJ9dpeASHIs?is=Flt2r5RYAKUDxeMR the sound I'm going for starts at 2:58 and goes for about a minute before the effect gets turned off.

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u/FartPantry 1d ago

Hello fellow phish fan. For this, I would just use the reverse delay and set the mix to 100% so you are only hearing the reverse sound. You can do lots of fun funk siren stuff in the helix too!

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u/terrorbethyname 1d ago

I'll give it a try when I get one. The boomerang is just so crisp for this effect that when I tried it with other delays I've had there's a notable difference with the way the notes come out more of a zoom or ramp up to the notes than them just coming out clean.

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u/FartPantry 1d ago

I gotcha. It will probably have a different flavor. I have never tried the boomerang, but I'm happy with the reverse delay in the helix for this type of thing.

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u/terrorbethyname 1d ago

Ok Cool coming from a fellow Phan I'll assume itll get the job done since you know what I'm looking for

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u/FartPantry 1d ago

Haha well don't let my thoughts change your perspective too much. Like I said, I have never used the boomerang so I can't compare. Your need is pretty specific. I would try and find a unit that you can test.

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u/terrorbethyname 17h ago

It's mainly just wanting to downsize significantly if I can substitute nearly every pedal I have for the helix it's already a win.

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u/FartPantry 16h ago

Yep, the sacrifices are worth it

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u/alphaglider 2d ago

The helix looper has a reverse button for your loops, but you can also use the reverse delay if you want a simultaneous reverse/dry sound.

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u/terrorbethyname 2d ago

What about only reverse no dry

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u/alphaglider 2d ago

Yes just turn the mix to 100%, all the delays usually have a mix setting. You can also assign any controls (mix, feedback, ect) to a button or the expression pedal also to make it faster to change settings.

I'm pretty sure the reverse delay would be closer to what you're looking for, just mess around with the subdivisions/Millisecond settings

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u/terrorbethyname 2d ago

https://youtu.be/AJ9dpeASHIs?is=Flt2r5RYAKUDxeMR the sound I'm going for is starts at 2:58 and goes for about a minute before the effect gets turned off. I have had delays with the reverse setting that didn't quite sound like my boomerang does. If you wouldn't mind checking out the link and letting me know if appreciate it.

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u/terrorbethyname 2d ago

Oh wait you're saying I could assign delay rate to an expression pedal, that sounds like it would work. I'm just gonna have to get the helix and play around with it