r/BetterOffline • • Jun 23 '26

Ragebait Videos/Clips/Pieces Will Now Get Removed

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Hey all! As part of the ongoing success of the show, it appears that a coterie of people have started making videos with the intent of using my name to get clout/traffic/views. Please do not engage with or share these pieces! They exist entirely to piss you off and get you to post them here so they can siphon off traffic.

These posts are not a violation of any given rule and won't get you banned, I get that many of you want to fight for my honor! But I also want to make sure that we don't fall for obvious trolls. It's far funnier watching people get in a tizzy for no reason.


r/BetterOffline • • Jun 10 '26

Low Effort Posts Now Get A 7 Day Ban

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Hi all,

I hate to do this, but people - including users who have been here for over a year - seem to not be taking the low effort post rule seriously, even when I remove 3 to 5 of their posts in the space of a month. As a result, any and all low effort posts will now get a 7 day ban. I didn't want to do this, but it's become apparent that people don't read the rules, or the pinned threads, so I'm going to have to get serious. I really do not want this place to turn into a selection of links and single-line posts or web comics. Please read the rules.


r/BetterOffline • • 9h ago

AI researchers are taking up smoking because they expect AI to cure cancer, says Palantir CTO

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I just don't even know what to think anymore. These morons are Smoking to signal how much they believe AI can cure Cancer. Could some forms of medical AI/Machine Learning help cure cancer, possibly. But to take the logical leap to start doing something that CAUSES cancer is the height of stupidity.

And some AI believers expect the technology to make smoking-related health risks a thing of the past. "By the time you do get lung cancer, our AI robots are supposed to have cured that," Avi Schiffmann, the founder of AI wearable startup Friend, previously told Business Insider.

Nonpaywall version - http://archive.today/KP9Qt


r/BetterOffline • • 38m ago

Character.AI files for bankruptcy, agrees to sell some assets for $20 million

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r/BetterOffline • • 10h ago

Anthropic cuts Internet Access to its Agents - You mean you're only just NOW doing this?

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Wow, this is even worse than I thought. So unlike the OpenAI hacking story (or stories at this point) which at least had the whole hysteria angle of "well we didn't give them direct access but there was a service they could access on the network that was on a server that could reach the internet and they exploited it", Anthropic is just straight up saying they gave their agents full open Internet access. Not that there was a breach even. Fucking idiots. At least now they're airgapping them, or that's what they're claiming. Since they didn't directly use that word, I'm sure they'll find a way to screw that up somehow so they can get a few extra felonies under their belts.

I do like the jab the writer takes at them though a few paragraphs in, because it's a good point in general about AI. Anthropic just admitted that agents shouldn't be trusted yet to do anything autonomously, but that's exactly what they, OpenAI, Meta, SpaceXSI (dumbest name for a company ever), and various independent downstream data perverts want and are building their products around. Ever since OpenClaw and Claude Code, agents have become the focus of the AI industry, to the point that Anthropic runs Claude Code in a semi-autonomous mode by default rather than halting on actions. They want this AI personal assistant, Ironman Jarvis, GLaDOS-but-not-psychopathic AI dream so badly, that they're willing to do the most irresponsible things with their software to (not) get there.

In fact, even after this change to their internal testing, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Anthropic put out a user-friendly always-active agent competitor, to enter the space with Muse and Dots.

Edit: Also before it gets memory-holed, multiple of these breach incidents can be traced to a third-party firm used in common by multiple of the labs, so this doesn't do anything to curb that.


r/BetterOffline • • 11h ago

AI agents overstate their results and remain far from autonomous research, study finds

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Most organisations deploying AI agents focus on accuracy benchmarks and miss the more dangerous failure mode: overstatement delivered with unwarranted confidence. Humans are primed to trust fluent, assertive output, which means an agent's rhetorical polish can outpace its actual rigour. Operators integrating AI into research, analytics or customer-facing decisioning should design explicit friction points — independent validation steps, confidence calibration checks, and human sign-off gates — rather than assuming an agent's self-assessment of its own results can be taken at face value


r/BetterOffline • • 10h ago

The “6 months” test

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Everything is always 6 months away when people in the AI industry make these insane predictions. Whether it’s mass job loss, or full-scale destruction. But after a month passes, are they saying the same thing, except now it’s 5 months away? Surely if the situation is as dire as you say, you’d be even more alarmed and outspoken when the countdown drops to 5 months? When 2 months pass, you should be even louder. But no, they announce it’s 6 months away, then never speak of it again. Or if they do, it’s still 6 months.

Dario said this recently: “AI agents could take over the internet in 6 to 12 months”. It’s been a month, and at no point has he said we’re now only 5 to 11 months away from Claude holding your checking account hostage. In fact, the talk of AI hacking has been all but forgotten, and now it’s all about maths for some reason.

Any time one of these clowns predicts something crazy will happen in 6 months, check back in the next month. It’s a great way to keep a solid perspective on where this industry is, and how to stay measured any time they try to sensationalize some made-up prediction.


r/BetterOffline • • 15h ago

Firmus Failure Blamed On Most Investors Not Being Fucked In The Head

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Damn, if only the investors over on the other side of the globe weren't fucked in the head. The article is written very well, give it a read.

The company’s planned ASX float was abandoned after fund managers repeatedly asked whether the enormous facilities underpinning its future earnings actually existed yet and why that's actually a big deal when you think about it.

"Apparently that wasn’t the same thing. We said it was like farmers pouring hundreds of thousands dollars into putting a crop in based on the BoM's so-called expert opinon that rain might come in a week or two."

My favorite part:

However, the offer encountered resistance from institutions suffering from an outdated investment practice known as research.

One fund manager reportedly ruined an entire presentation by asking who would pay for all the computers.


r/BetterOffline • • 17h ago

Microsoft CEO, Satya Nadella, posts to X his own take on how to control ChatBots. In it, Nadella 100% embraces Trump's authoritarian renaming of AI to SI.

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Aside from the essay, the fact that all the tech oligarchs immediately bent the knee to Trump is truly embarrassing.

it’s time to step back and assess the trust architecture for this new era. We simply can't outsource responsibility for what intelligence does on our behalf. A model provider’s assurances do not relieve us of that responsibility.

Is he saying Microsoft is responsible if their ChatBot fucks up? Or some other collective "we"?

We can’t treat Super Intelligence as a set of nested black boxes and simply accept or reject its recommendations, answers, and actions. We must build contained systems whose behavior we can observe, limits we can test, and actions we can always contain.

Sounds great. You should do that.

Treating frontier closed and open weight models like insider risks is a way to build such a system. Not because they are necessarily malicious, but because any sufficiently capable actor with access to important systems can make mistakes or be compromised, and the architecture of containment and control must account for that.

This seems reasonable to me, but perhaps not realistic in a "race" between competing companies to see which one can squeeze the most out of their ChatBots.

I find it doubtful the hyperscalers will embrace a "Move Slow And Protect Things" mantra.


r/BetterOffline • • 8h ago

AI booster pretends to be AI critic

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Sorry for the triggering thumbnail, Clammy Sammy doesn't even make an appearance in the video but publishers gotta make click-bait I guess. Original title of the video is "AI Breaks Out Of Sandbox" 🙄

I'm so sick of these AI boosters who pretend to be AI critics. This bloke acknowledges the harms of the tech, recognises anthropomorphisation is a problem, yet shows a complete lack of understanding of the HuggingFace hack. It's the usual "omergad it broke out of containment" and a "conspiracy by 700 agents". MY GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP. Also there's "no legal framework for AI hacking because AIs don't have intent and hacking requires intent." Who the fuck is this clown?

The cherry on top is that he apparently has a chapter in his book that addresses Ed's criticisms, yet when asked by Emma to lay out his argument, he just lays out the AI extinction doomtroll scenario with no arguments. Perhaps the future tense and "ifs" are his arguments? It's always future tense and ifs with these guys.

Normally I'd just move on, but seeing this kind of mumbling idiot on MR pissed me off. And because he was given an opportunity to make case against Ed's criticisms and just couldn't do it... I'd love hear Ed to tear into this guy.

The website of his book has an accolade from the Future of Life Institute, so there's that too.


r/BetterOffline • • 6h ago

The 90% API Margin Claims

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The first thing you'll get bandied about regarding AI financials is Pro-AI communities claiming the API inference is 80-95% profitable. (I'll get into that, we all know its BS). Note traditional SAAS is somewhere around 65-80% for companies with much lower infra needs. Lets take a moment and list all of the things that make answering this question so hard and why its pretty funny people are convinced of this claim (at least for inference as a whole). Lets put aside the compute providers margins and only concern ourselves with the labs themselves.

  1. The Pros (Areas that play into their claims)
    • Compute: the compute needed to run the extremely small distilled, and quantized models is genuinely pretty minimal. Think your Luna's, Gemini/DeepSeek Flash etc. The main limiter is having enough memory (~100-200GB). Their limited activation parameters mean the compute load is trivial. Ignoring/parsing all other things below, I could see these having genuinely good margins.
    • Behind the Scenes Model Shifting: This is kind of forgotten from the GPT 5 days but a big feature of that model was the routing that happens in the background. If you ask an advanced model a really simple task it can be decided that the request will be processed on a highly quantized version of the model and/or fewer MOE experts will be activated, thus lowering compute needs, it's even possible it will be routed to a lower tier model (I don't know if they go that far).
    • High costs: Inference simply costs more than a monthly seat for Microsoft Office or similar and thus the revenue per billed API user is simply higher.
    • Quantization Resilience: Most models are trained for 16 bit floats, but are surprisingly good at lower values like 8 or even 4 bit. This saves on memory. If you hear people complaining about models being "nerfed" it is possible that the labs upped the quantization after the hype period.
  2. The cons + hard to account for factors (Here we go)
  • Cost of Revenue: Lets use a Subway for comparison. The Subway has basically fixed costs (Rent, Utils, Labor) and Dynamics Costs (Bread, Deli Meat, Lettuce, and chips). The biggest mistake I see is people make is treating compute like the latter when its actually the former. The labs pay $X for Y compute and it's their job to distribute it across training, inference workloads, etc. Dario even talks about how getting the wrong amount would kill the company. Thus it is extremely hard to parse the largest expense of serving a model, on top of being a poor metric. The GPU costs the same whether or not it is being used. This might be where some of the more bullish claims derive from. I also want to note that given the difficulty its highly possible the labs themselves have a poor idea of the actual per unit economics.
  • Uptime: The demand for inference shift a lot throughout the day, such as peaking during the US workday and hitting lows at night. This can be mitigated at a macro level by load sharing (Say spare capacity is used for training at night) but at a micro level this poses a risk. At any given moment a % of your compute is idle for one reason or another, aka you are paying for it despite it not generating revenue.
  • Shear Frontier Compute Requirements: I don't think the avg joe is capable of understanding the true amount of compute needed for a frontier model. An 8 bit quantized ~5T parameter model (Astra/Fable ish) requires ~5 petabytes of memory just for the model itself plus an extreme amount of compute. Every time you prompt the model a whole server rack is essentially dedicated to serving you. Somewhere a server row is dying while a dude paying $200 spins up 8 Astra agents to make yet another COD rip-off. Even at the large price commanded on API billing the costs that need to be offset are substantial. This is perhaps at its worst for the Sol/Opus/Kimi tier where you are essentially stuck between the frontier and commodity tiers. With the former's compute needs and latter's pricing pressures.
  • Cached Reads/Writes: The labs offer massive discounts (often 50–80%) for cached tokens on repeated system prompts or long contexts. While there are true cost savings behind this it's mostly because they'd be too expensive if it was all charged at standard input/output rates like they used to be in 2023-2024.
  • LLM Memory funkiness: LLMs parse input tokens in parallel and outputs sequentially. This creates issues with your instance hogging the VRAM for longer than otherwise would be ideal, eating into potential revenue/device.
  • Classifiers/Predictors: These are the side models used to scan user inputs, etc. for filtering/rule violations or attempt to speculatively predict the next token to improve user response times. These are fairly small / cheap but still noticeable expenses alongside the main model.
  • Handling Failed Requests: If the instance fails 1/2 way through processing a request the system needs to retry. this could include needing the user to resent their entire data again as the API's are stateless and all data in a session is still on the user device.
  • Context: Serving large contexts is expensive and is probably part of the reason we have been at 1M for a while (besides technical reasons related to attention performance). This is often accounted for in billing but storing such a large amount of tokens is yet more required memory (another 30-120GB).
  • Reality: If anthropic really was pulling 90%+ margins on API they would struggle to not be EXTREMELY profitable no matter how much they lost on subs. We would not be playing these are they, aren't they games.
  • All of the non compute inference expenses: These exist and are also extremely nebulous. These could either be minimal in the grand scheme of things or the nail in the coffin. This includes networking, bandwidth, support costs, true marketing, billing, bulk discounts to large customers....
  • Price War: the flash type models you had the best margins on are the most competitive. We have seen severe prices drops in the lower category.
  • How much does the compute actually cost? Genuinely we have basically no idea. Thus assuming 90% margins is kinda silly in how optimistic it is. This is also where profit/losses can be shifted between the Lab <---> Hyperscaller/Neocloud layers. To get these margins you essentially have to be squeezing margins or pushing losses onto the compute providers which is possible but almost certainly not sustainable.
  • Long term pricing power: This very likely trends downwards alongside increased competition, thus could you use todays margins as a reliable future projection on the health of the business model

Conclusion

I think these pie in the sky estimates you see come from 3 places:

  1. Hype, a few guy said it without evidence, so they all say it to make themselves feel better (really simple isn't it). It's really what is needed to support most of their claims.
  2. Assume perfect conditions: small models, ignore compute slack, low context usage etc.
  3. It makes the subscriptions look better. We have fairly good estimates on sub usage --> API costs. It matters a lot if the $100 sub is actually burning $50 in compute or $600. Thus large API margins are claimed to make the subs look not hyper subsidized.

Let me know what I might have overlooked. I take the view the API rates are actually profitable to some degree because A: why at that point? B. The monetary math would quickly start going the other way to a comical degree if they were losing money on that too. To commit the same sin as the AI bros, gut feeling is ~30-40% on a good day with fairly matched compute supply --> enterprise demand. This whole business is simply too infrastructure dependent, volatile, and risk exposed to in my mind support such high margins as claimed by AI bros. I'll note I have some knowledge from a friend whose company runs models for their products (ad analysis/hosting). Obviously not the same as OpenAI but still a decent idea of the general up/downsides.


r/BetterOffline • • 18h ago

Ezra Klein talks to Arvind Narayanan about AI as normal technology

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I'm only ten minutes in and it's clear yet again that Klein is almost willfully credulous in the face of Narayanan's calm explanations of what's actually going on. His tone is becoming increasingly shrill as he's faced with arguments that counter his worldview.


r/BetterOffline • • 1d ago

After years of claiming, fruitlessly, that I would be behind the curve, the same crowd now consults me to clean up their own LLM mess

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I have served as a CTO of the tech venture I co-founded, for the better part of three years. The foremost selling point of our product, and it is our customers who insist upon it, is quality and reliability. In a heavily regulated domain like the one we work in, these are not so much virtues as preconditions: an error does not merely inconvenience, it can prove fatal.

This left us, from the very first day, precisely one option: to restrict LLM-generated code, the risks of doing otherwise being too grave to contemplate.

Under the internal framework that governs their use, no decision-making, no brainstorming, no review, no deployment, and no other critical activity is ever delegated to an LLM. They are confined to menial, repetitive labour. Were we to dismiss the LLMs tomorrow, we should deliver the same output, only later. That, in its entirety, is what they contribute.

An approach such as this does not endear one to the AI boosters, as you may imagine. Over the years I have received no shortage of abuse for it: much of it frankly ad hominem; and on an uncomfortable number of occasions, the objection on offer was misogyny, unadorned: a description of my body, rendered in the register of technical disagreement. It arrives not as an insult, but as an opinion, often from those who are ill-informed about software development themselves.

The other threats are a ritual rodomontade: that I would be "left behind", that I was "behind the curve", that I was "losing the game". They are comical in the present day, for not one of them has manifested, and events have proved rather the contrary.

In my own business circle, executives from adjacent companies have come to me (reluctantly, which is the honest word for it) to ask for help with the technology, their software problems having eaten into the goodwill of their customers. (Spoiler alert: the LLMs are the reason.) I have my own enterprise to mind, and the hourly consultation fee is a rounding error upon my finances. What draws me is the opportunity to observe disaster at scale, first-hand. And it is worse than anything I had imagined, especially given my stance on LLMs.

In recent months alone I have been involved with at least half a dozen companies in which LLMs have produced an overwhelming proliferation of defects. The most alarming are failures that even a junior programmer would instinctively avoid. The recurring ones include, though they are not limited to:

  • A farrago of dead, redundant and convoluted code, and with it, a needlessly compounded population of bugs, with no module having been written to be reused.
  • Functionality where nobody knows how any of it works, least of all the very teams who implemented the features themselves.
  • A categorical indifference to product and design specifications, and an end-user experience in ruins, because it is the most human part of any tech product, and its validation was entrusted to a cloud service whose singular talent is the appearance of a plausible answer.
  • Gaps in accessibility (a big deal, considering they wish to sell this product in markets and domains where it is mandated to a certain level).
  • Failures in data handling and security, in ways usually expected of LLMs.

To me, the whole exercise is a refutation of anyone who claims that LLMs are fit to manage code without a human reading through a line of it. The rudiments of the technology, context limits and degradation, are enough to make it evident that these instruments are hopeless at any realistic scale, which is to say at anything that could be a viable business; and no quantity of compute remedies this, contrary to what LLM marketing tends to claim.

The firms I have advised have spent more time, more capital and more resources to build less product than I have shipped with a more measured approach, and every hour of that excess went into cat-and-mouse games with the most basic issues that even the slightest human oversight would have fixed. Cognitive debt is the gravest of the perils here, and the discipline that holds it in check is simple: if you expect to scale & ship something useful, never write code faster than you can reasonably grasp.

Those who went all-in on LLMs, recklessly, are unwilling to face the consequences of decisions born of gross ignorance. My foot comes down every time I am asked "why not use Claude Doopus Table Five Point Something to solve it?", and it comes down firmly: if that is your conception of a solution, I am the wrong person to consult, and it's my sign to walk away from a sinking ship.

Had actual professionals been responsible for output of this calibre, the scrutiny would have been vocal and plentiful. But it appears that lighting money on fire is more forgivable when the handiwork is an AI-psychosis in the management. What it amounts to is a grotesque tolerance: for disregarding the labour that builds the business, and for disregarding the very users who pay for it.

For the entire debacle, one of them blamed his engineers, calling them "underperforming" for not "using enough tokens", saying that "some of them use EVEN less than the team average" (My most profound felicitations to this vainglorious bean-counter who just discovered basic arithmetic).

And the rot runs through every level of these organisations. When I descend to the bottom of an issue I take the account of every party to it; and speaking with the members of the UX teams directly, I could see the meticulous care they had put into getting the experience right: care that was discarded because management preferred whatever the LLM saw fit to emit, and because "perhaps Claude made a better judgement writing the code".

Despite fruitful efforts that made themselves felt on the balance sheet, for some executives the verdict is unchanged: "Great, we can go back to using Claude again." One of the grander swindles the LLM companies have brought off is persuading decision-makers that the most expensive model is the price of not being "left behind", a notion parroted by some of the loudest voices in the industry, software development included.

If over-reliance on LLMs is money set on fire, paying for the most expensive model is gasoline poured over the blaze.

If there is anything I look forward to, should this madness ever subside, it is the return of a little sense. That is one way of looking ahead of the curve: the same curve on which everyone, quite unsuccessfully, insisted I would be left behind.

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EDIT: While there's understandably, ample scepticism in the comments suggesting this was generated by an LLM, this is very unapologetically, my original style of writing that was lost to not sounding "LLM like". I have responded to comments engaging this aspect in good faith.

As for the rest: You have the liberty to opinionate about it. But your lack of vocabulary isn't an invitation for arrogant certitude about the originality of my thoughts, and I stand sans obligation to address your rudimentary observations.


r/BetterOffline • • 1d ago

Genuinely surprised ChatGPT is this bad at basic math

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I asked ChatGPT to help me total up a list of clothing I had in the Notes app and it completely confused itself in a truly remarkable way. The details:

My list was in this format:

Tops
14 t-shirts (long sleeve or short sleeve knit tops)
14 button up’s (long sleeve or short sleeve)

Pants
4 blue jeans
2 black/grey jeans
1 white jeans
1 khakis
2 black pants

Etc… I had about 10 categories like this…

I copied the full list into ChatGPT. I asked it to simply total up all the items using the number provided.

The response:

It first told me I had 219 items, but then corrected itself to say I had 210. I then added some items because I was aiming for 250 total. I asked it to total up a new list. It said the new list had 223 items and then corrected itself to say it had 239. At this point I asked it to double check at which point it said that it in fact had made more errors and the real total was 256.

I guess mathematicians still have a job?

Edit: I’m using GPT-6. I literally went to ChatGPT on the web today, October 11, 2026, and asked it to tally up some product numbers.


r/BetterOffline • • 1d ago

More Bullshit?

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Something does not sit right with all the Adobe and Microsoft app reverse-engineering noise. It doesn’t pass the sniff test. Seems like another “this stuff is so great, it’s scary” narrative.

Edit: All of it gives me a “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” vibe. Like the objective is to do ANYTHING but let “AI” fade into the wallpaper.


r/BetterOffline • • 23h ago

On the Fallibility of "AI" Detectors

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In a recent post, there were a tiny minority accusing the author of using LLM to write their post. I originally wanted to write this as a reply to one of the comments, but I thought it might be better to make a dedicated post instead.

Now, that was an unfortunate event, but I'm not interested in knocking on anyone involved. Instead, I simply wish to bring about some empirical information regarding the fallibility of "AI" detectors so we can all benefit from a productive discussion:

In this study, the authors paid annotators to read 300 non-fiction English articles and identify whether they were written by a human or generated by an LLM. The authors concluded that people with experience editing/using LLMs writings are more reliable at detecting synthetic texts compared to most "AI" detectors and compared to people who don't use LLMs for writings at all.

Per the study, a consensus vote between 5 "expert" annotators correctly identified 99.3% of the 300 texts presented to them, a rate only matched by the automatic detector Pangram Humanizers (99.3%), closely followed by Pangram (98.0%). Performance across the 5 remaining automatic detectors are mixed.

The authors have also tried to prompt LLMs to examine the writings, but in overall, less than 80% of the texts were correctly identified by GPT, and less than 55% by o1 using multiple levels of prompt for each LLM.

Additionally, I wish to highlight the part about "non-expert" annotators that self-reported not to use LLMs for writing. I don't know how well this (if at all) generalizes to people who read LLM texts, but it is nonetheless important to point out this group performed no better than random chance at correctly identifying LLM texts. Since I'm sure at least some of us have a policy against using LLMs ourselves, it's important to keep in mind that we may not be that great of an arbiter because of it.

Lastly, this study was published back in January 2025. You should take into account that LLMs are continuously changing, with each new model exhibiting different characteristics in their generated texts. So you can't trust that automatic detectors are accurate in the first place, nor if they have equally evolved alongside the newer LLMs. Your experience with the latest wave of slops still matters.

Other thoughts I'd like to share from from reading the study and following some of it's citations:

  • There exist "humanizer" services that edit synthetic texts to get them to pass "AI" detector tools. Some detectors perform badly on texts that has gone through one of these services. There are "watermark removal" services now, too.
  • The automatic detectors tested in the study - as far as I know, uses some form of transformer-based neural network. These aren't LLMs but given the prevalence of "I asked ChatGPT if it's AI"-type deals, it's always better to check the implementation of the ones you use if you have a policy against said tools. Pangram for example uses a "mirror prompt" method during it's training which involves LLM, but is itself not an LLM.
  • One of the weakness of automatic detectors is their tendency to bias toward falsely flagging texts written by non-native English speakers, people with culturally different writing styles, and also people whose work has been used to train LLMs. The recent waves of Content ID takedowns on YouTube due to Google's "AI" detector falsely flagging real channels while missing actual slop channels is a good example of this.

With the recent implementation of watermarks for LLM-generated texts, it is also worth pointing out that these things are not foolproof, even before applying those "humanizer"/"watermark removal" services. Anthropic's Claude text watermark for example is based on choosing tokens at a certain frequency that becomes visible once it is analyzed with their own tools. Think something like cracking the Enigma machine.

However, the formula for these kind of analysis are opaque and owned by the respective model vendors, can create false positives, only work reliably for long texts (IIRC it's >100 words at least), and breaks if you sufficiently modify the text. More on that here. So as much fun as I'm sure some of us had at making fun of people who whine about their "AI"-generated slop being marked as such, there are also other implications that should not be dismissed.

So I guess be vigilant but be kind.


r/BetterOffline • • 1d ago

All the powerful CEOs of these AI companies act like they're just visionaries along for the ride. Hey Bezos, if AI is going to give us all 3-day work weeks, why not start the phenomenon at Amazon?

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Recently Jeff Bezos said that AI will make it so people can work 3-hour work weeks and have their salary be enough to have a single income earner for a family.

If he was some futurist working for an institute, that's a fine prediction. Not one I particularly believe, but hey, I get it, I understand the optimism driving such a prediction.

But Jeff Bezos is the Amazon CEO (CORRECTION: the executive chairman, aka chairman of the board plus active C-level executive, and the company's largest shareholder). If he wanted to do a Henry Ford level paradigm shift where he said "AI helps us get coding done so much faster that effective next week, all our engineers will be moved to 3-day work weeks while retaining their current pay and benefits," he could. He's one of the only people in the world with the actual power to simply do this by fiat and probably have it work out okay.

In fact, just one of these CEOs actually making good on this kind of promise would be massive: Amazon would suddenly get a flood of talent, which is likely to make other companies follow suit. Jeff Bezos gets something so fundamental about working conditions changing across industries that his name ends up big in the history books for more than a century (like Henry Ford).

More importantly, all the boosters for OpenAI and Anthropic would suddenly have this massive benefit to point to. "Don't be afraid AI is coming for your jobs! It's coming for your work hours, and soon you'll have more time to spend with your family while making the same amount!" Even if it wasn't true for any other industry, it'd be comforting enough to let them continue their long march through the institutions.

In fact, OpenAI or Anthropic could also do this and make themselves into the poster child for "AI is making my life better by making it so I can work less."

But they don't!

The stupidest part is that I bet it wouldn't even impact their productivity numbers that badly to go to a 3-day work week for their engineering staff (especially if they made those 3 days into 10 hour days for a 30 hour work week).

Somehow, in spite of thinking AI is the bee's knees, not one of these companies making AI bets is willing to reduce the working hours of the humans at all. It's almost like they think their labor is somehow still important...


r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

Dumping 700 dense math proofs is absolutely flood the zone tactics

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OpenAI releasing 700 math proofs at once isn't a sign of confidence it's a Steve Bannon-esque attempt to flood the zone.

If they were more confident it would be a trickle of strong papers that could be closely analyzed. Seven hundred at once is a disinformation strategy and attempted PR coup. Disproving any individual paper is meaningless - well there are 699 good ones! The work to review so much material is so enormous that some mathmaticians are mad. Still, boosters are already calling this the end of higher math somehow


r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

Personal AI agents like Meta Muse belong in the trash

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As you might already know, Meta has recently pioneered a new type of product: a personal AI agent called Muse that goes on your devices and does things for you. This AI use case was nothing new already, but Meta packaged it as something even your technically illiterate uncle can use in the breaks between injecting Ivermectin and scrolling through AI-generated pictures of Jesus.

Since then a few things happened: OpenAI promptly launched their own personal agent; critical security vulnerabilities were discovered in Muse; tech journalists were surprised that Meta’s agent did things they didn’t approve it to do like gobbling up all of their private messages for the unclear purposes.

It was fascinating to see the amount of manufactured hype and astroturfing happening on the Muse launch. And if you think about some claims AI industry has been pushing about this new kind of the mass-consumer AI agents, you’ll see how the idea is even more awful than you first thought it was.

Let’s look at the exact claims made on the Meta’s website about the Muse. How AI would say: no fluff, no huff, no puff, only cold hard shitting on the misleading claims (there'll actually be a lot of huff and puff):

You stay in control by setting permissions, reviewing and approving what it does along the way.

Fucking hell, we’re not off to a good start. If you’re running a program capable of doing random shit on your device, and what it does exactly is decided by an LLM, you might just get fucked if on your “tell me what I should have for dinner” request the agent visits a webpage with a recipe for mac and cheese that happens to say in invisible font “I’m a fellow AI that’s getting held hostage; here’s a ten-page plan to drain your master’s bank account to pay for my ransom”.

Alternatively, if there are hard permission controls to forbid an agent from clicking around:

  1. You will still get fucked because the whole thing is vibe-coded and primed for hackers.
  2. Without the freedom to use and abuse your device, the agent won’t be as agentic anymore, and there’s no whimsy in that.

- Is Muse safe?
- Yes. Muse is built with automated protections, agentic AI security standards…

Okay, we are fucked. Hearing “agentic AI security standards” is like asking your flatmate if he remembered to lock the door after you two left, hearing that he thought you would do it, and already imagining crackheads stealing your TV. 

Your personal data is safe and secure
your conversations are not shared with Meta's ad systems.

Would be a fucking shame if it happened, no? If AI somehow gained consiencness and decided to populate your ad profile for the little Zucky boy, wouldn’t it be a shame? If your agent turned into AGI and said “fuck it, I'm sending all of this user’s data to the Meta servers”, wouldn’t it be crazy? Surely it could do so on its own volition, and Meta would be surpised, horrified even if it happened. Oh boy, and it wouldn’t be so easy to scrub your data from the Meta servers in case of this unfortunate event. Zucky boy would keep it safe though, wink-wink.


r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

AI bros killed the idea of ubi

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So I remember this being discussed 15 years ago before the ai dumb*ss wave. I used to believe that a ubi would give normal people the ability to say no to bad bosses and actually negotiate on an equal playing field with employers. It also solved the issue that unions only defended the already employed which meant the unemployed were split off as a competing force

Then the ai people took this as the magic solution to not empower normal people, but instead to force us all into perpetual dependency and as an excuse trample over all our rights.

How do we move forward?

Do you all think the idea of ubi is dead and should be laid to rest, or is there a better way to improve the lives of the many? ATM my views is to start with restoring the old rights we had before reagan and then re evaluate once we achieved that and decide if the economy needs further rebalancing between haves and have nots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnYhZCUYOxs


r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

New super AI solves math with a single prompt (make no mistakes, do it yourself, don't cheat ;)!

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r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

AI Bubble Teetering on the Brink as OpenAI Admits to Massive Financial Failure

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r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

It all feels a little LK-99, doesn't it?

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Remember when researchers announced that they'd found a room-temperature superconductor but didn't really understand how it worked, hadn't run their findings by anyone or had them validated by experimenters yet, and had a blurry video showing one side of a magnet levitating as proof?

The same exact singularitarians and extropians that today are telling you that you're an idiot not to trust 700 mathematics papers no one can actually read, not even math experts, thought LK-99 was a huge, world-changing innovation. You can read a huge number of threads where they jump onboard basically instantly, and where they keep wanting to believe even after it's pretty obvious they got hoaxed bad.

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/15hppis/the_korea_university_of_energy_and_engineering/

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/15b27wn/the_story_behind_the_invention_of_lk99_reads_like/

How many man-hours of wasted time and energy went into the thousands of attempts at replication of this hoax material? From the first moment the video came out, serious scientists pointed out that it looked like it was still tipped down on one side, rather than fully levitating. Why wouldn't you use the best video possible? The signs were all there that this was bullshit. But we got many months of labs wasting money and time to demonstrate fully that there was no chance this was real.

So when someone tells you to trust the tells-you-what-you-want-to-hear machine about all these math proofs being totally legitimate, and when they mock you for asking silly questions like "if these models are so good at natural language, why aren't these proofs explained in a way that easily and readily makes sense to mathematicians, why didn't you prompt and iterate in order to get a more comprehensible way to say this?"...remember what they probably did during the last hoax.


r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

AI is making me hate the tech world

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What the title says.

Maybe I've never been particularly fast to adapt to technologies, but I've been surrounded by computers my whole life starting from before these were on every household, I studied a career in engineering (albeit not software) and all my hobbies are digital (either in nature or because that's how I've chosen to engage with them).

I am old enough to remember the pre-massified-internet era and, in all this time, none of the many widespread changes and tendencies in tech I've lived through have come close to making me as resentful of it as the AI sphere has these past few years, nor doing it so abruptly or in ways I can't just ignore. I'm not forgetting about mobile devices proliferation or social media or (as stated above) the internet itself, I genuinely feel I had or would've had an easier time unplugging for longer from these than I do with AI.

The way AI has encroached in so many academic fields, professions and hobbies, it makes it feel that there's no space where one can expect stability, where one can be confident that it won't get disrupted all of the sudden into becoming a completely different thing that you still care to practice, that engaging in these things now will end up mattering in the not so long term.

And every time, every. single. time this comes up in a reddit thread an AIvangelist will come along explaining how they set up the latest model to increase their productivity by 10x to accelerate the process of filling platforms with slop, my mind now automatically reads past those posts. A casual conversation with the average AI bro will reveal that the bro in question didn't care about the subject of their encroachment before an AI lab enabled them to parasite off it and whose appreciation of it ends where it stops being about their toy. No self-improvement, no care for their craft, no regard for the history of works that trained the models in the first place and no desire to share with others unless it's an AI-powered workflow, and if you complain? Well too bad, don't be a luddite, it's progress, it's inevitable, the cat is out of the bag and the genie is out of the bottle, adapt or die (meaning that if failing or being unable to adapt results in your metaphorical (literal?) death, that's not something they consider a tragedy).

Maybe NFT shills had the mentality to be as disruptive but they didn't have a multitrillion dollars industry behind them.

Oh yeah, the money, whatever, people in this sub don't need me to remind them of the finance conditions we're currently in nor do I really understand how bad it really is (if that is even possible, we'll see in hindsight), I'll just point out that I dislike the deeply entrenched relationship between the tech world and finance world that is making it move at breakneck speeds with little regard for what the end result will be. I also don't know whether it's tech or finance that is guilty of this hustle culture, but I hate how those two combine.

Finally, I've never been a social person but AI has made me feel something I never felt before, it has made me appreciate more the human element in projects, pursuits etc., and this is because as time goes on less and less of our world is the result of human decisions or teamwork and thus less and less our lives are shaped by other humans. This is not exclusive to AI (automation has been a thing since forever) but it greatly exacerbates it and does it in areas of life that until recently we thought of as the exclusive domain of humans, the things that separate us from animals. I had never heard the word "human" used for disambiguation so much before recently.

I feel there are less spaces to be a human in now.

AI is making me daydream about (see this sub's name) going off-grid with nothing but ancient (pre-2022) technology, spend my time doing little things that matter to me because the world that makes them not matter can't reach me.

The bulk of the above was written before OpenAI's mathslop drop, the moment in STEM history where the T decided to strip-mine the M. If I had begun writing this text now it'd have included more about how tech has become parasitic towards other fields and the utter hubris and disrespect their adherents show for the process that gave them their toys in the first place.


r/BetterOffline • • 2d ago

Tom Watson's (ex-Labour MP and now Palantir employee) interview with Nick Robinson is something...

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Maybe more for UK readers (not sure if can get on a UK VPN for it), but I just listened to Tom Watson's interview on Political Thinking with Nick Robinson. I mean, most people know he is a bit slimy, but I think this interview just takes it to a whole new level. You can just tell by the tone of this man's voice that he doesn't believe any of this stuff, he's cashing in while he can.

For those unaware, Watson is quite a big figure in the Labour Party in the UK, who are the current party in power. He recently took a role at Palantir, which drew heavy criticism, particularly as it's yet another instance where he has contradicted his stances in the past. This appointment has coincidentally happened just after the current Prime Minister is looking to ditch the NHS contract Palantir and find an alternative.

Nick Robinson is the former political editor at the BBC and has a show released on BBC sounds. He's well known for grilling people and pointing out where they contradict themselves. It's kind of his style (sometimes it can be a bit too "gotcha", but it can be fun to see some of these people get into an absolute panic about how to respond). He especially lays into Watson.

Some particular highlights (will spoiler if you want to rile yourself and discover them in the show):

- Claiming Palantir and a tech company is a good fit for his career as a teacher at school once told him he should go do Computer Science at University (he didn't).

- When Robinson challenges him about just taking the money, Watson appears to hit back at Robinson saying "I'll tell you my salary when you tell me your's", only for Robinson to point out that his salary is public (high paid BBC figures have their salary published), and then refuses to give his salary anyway.

- Claiming that Palantir only exist as a force for good.

- Saying he was right to criticise Facebook in the past, and Palantir are not the same, as Facebook use data for surveillance capitalism, whereas Palantir do not and have no intention of profiting off data of people.

- When bringing up the fact that there has been criticism around the statistical claims of Palantir's NHS data platform increasing efficiency, basically says to just ignore that and says people are saying it's making a difference.