r/BeAmazed • u/Remarkable-Office944 • May 06 '26
Science Carrots were originally purple, white, yellow, and red. The orange carrots we know today became popular after Dutch farmers selectively bred them in the 16th–17th centuries.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TITS80085 May 06 '26
I wish purple and red carrots were more readily available
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u/Pyode May 06 '26
They are cool but man purple carrots bleed color like crazy.
Put them in a stew and the whole thing turns a greyish purple.
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u/Intelligent-Guard267 May 06 '26
I grew some and they turned orange after peeling. I feel betrayed
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u/FTownRoad May 06 '26
Same with string beans. We grew green and yellow ones and then got some “heirloom” purple as well. The purple ones turned green about 2 minutes into cooking.
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u/WadjetSnakeGoddess May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
It depends on the variety. Some are orange under the skin, some have purple with an orange core and others are purple all the way through.
Some examples cause I can't add a photo...
Purple Haze
Cosmic Purple
Purplesnax
Purple Elite
Purple Star
Purple Dragon
Purple Sun
Pusa Asita
Deep Purple
Black Nebula
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u/Apprehensive_Rule852 May 06 '26
We still talking about carrots?
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u/Sad-Pop6649 May 06 '26
That or another agricultural product commonly associated with the Netherlands. Hard to tell.
Purple Haze indeed.
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u/vinegar45 May 06 '26
I like the name Black Nebula. It sure sounds like it could fuck me up.
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u/WadjetSnakeGoddess May 06 '26
Im afraid so. They name new varieties of plants like energy drinks.
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u/JustaTinyDude May 06 '26
They are probably all weed strains as well. Purple haze sure is.
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u/WadjetSnakeGoddess May 06 '26
Purple Haze is also a Jimi Hendrix song.
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u/JustaTinyDude May 06 '26
Yeah, it was the second song I learned on guitar. My highschool guitar teacher was nuts. "The Jimi Hendrix chord" (E7#9) is not the most useful place to start.
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u/M8C May 06 '26
It’s always fun when I want an energy drink and have to guess by can color the flavor because Electric Blue, ultra violet or freedom bomb don’t give any context clues
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u/WadjetSnakeGoddess May 06 '26
I usually check the back of the ingredients to see if any specific flavors stick out 🤣
Only good thing about the carrots is that, the name actually does tell you what they are about... being carrots that are in some way purple.
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u/One_Split9757 May 06 '26
The Cosmic Purples were fun to grow. A purple exterior and an orange interior.
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u/Rhauko May 06 '26
There are different purple cultivars some are fully purple some indeed are orange on the inside.
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u/Bromogeeksual May 06 '26
I dont know how it works with carrots, but purple cabbage also bleeds unless you add some acid/citrus to it. I was tripping out why everything turned blue, then I learned to squeeze some lemon into the purple cabbage and it stops the blue bleed effect.
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u/joshieboi34 May 06 '26
Purple cabbage water is a natural ph indicator which is why it changes colour I'm not sure what makes it a ph indicator tho
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u/jsamuraij May 06 '26
It has anthocyanin, which works something like the phenolphthalein you may have used in high school chemistry class. It's red/pink in acids, blue/purple in neutral, and green/yellow in bases.
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u/Pub_Toilet_Graffiti May 06 '26
Same as butterfly pea extract (tea). It's a deep purple until you add lime juice, then it goes magenta, then red. It's a popular drink here in thailand.
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u/joshieboi34 May 06 '26
What's that taste for I've never heard of it before?
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u/Pub_Toilet_Graffiti May 06 '26
The tea is made from the petals of the flower. It has a mild floral smell. But it's mostly an excuse to make sweet limeade look pretty.
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u/nitid_name May 06 '26
It's added to a lot of gins in the US market because it makes cocktails really interesting.
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u/RT-LAMP May 06 '26
Anthocyanin in it absorbs vsible light wavelengths. There are a lot of OH groups on it at low pH and as you go to higher and higher pH they gradually lose their hydrogen and become either double bonded ketone groups or become negatively charged oxygen groups. This changes how strongly these oxygens are pulling on electrons in the rest of the molecule which shifts the wavelength of light the molecule absorbs.
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u/vinegar45 May 06 '26
I mean, if you want to be pedantic, it's the transition from the flavylium cation to the anhydrous base and then the chalcone form. The color change is just the macroscopic result of the molecule’s HOMO-LUMO gap narrowing as the pH rises. But sure, 'pulling on electrons' is a cute way to put it.
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u/RT-LAMP May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
HOMO-LUMO gap narrowing as the pH rises. But sure, 'pulling on electrons' is a cute way to put it.
Why do you think the gap is changing? It's because of the different electron withdrawing potential of an O- vs an OH group, aka how strongly each group pulls on the electrons from the rest of the molecule!
In naturally occurring anthocyanidins, the terminating chemical groups (-H, -OH, and -OCH 3 ) in the 3, 5, 6, 7 and the 3 , 4 , and 5 positions determine the original color of the molecule. pH-sensitivity and color change - Kong et al. (2003)
And they cause that by their different electron withdrawing potentials.
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u/Dovahkiinthesardine May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
The chemical that makes the colour can bind or lose multiple protons. If a proton binds, the colour changes from green over blue to red.
The concentration of protons in water is the pH value. If there are more protons in water, more can bind to the chemical in the cabbage. If there are fewer, the compound can lose the proton again.
It has multiple sites for that, so you have 0 - 5 protons bound, theoretically, which results in different colours
Ofc this means there are lower and upper limits, where adding more protons doesn't change anything, or 0% have protons left and you cant take more away
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u/EpilepticMushrooms May 06 '26
Cooking them with some pale stuff like rice, or squeezing their juices to make coloured cake sponge is frankly cool and organic, if you are interested in it!
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u/circuspeanut54 May 06 '26
Fun fact: most red food coloring in Germany is beet-based (apparently they outlawed many of the cochineal and artificial reds we use in the USA).
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u/EpilepticMushrooms May 06 '26
For reals. Chopping beets gave me murder fingers for a few days.
A lot of artificial colours also cause health issues, so I can understand why they would be banned.
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u/circuspeanut54 May 06 '26
Yes! Kinda cool vampiric look with the dyed cuticles, but I hate it. Takes days to get it off. It might be some odd genetic thing: my spouse doesn't get stained fingers at all. So of course I make him prepare all the beets.
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u/2074red2074 May 06 '26
No it doesn't, the chemical that makes it purple just turns pink in acidic solution.
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u/Mytzelk May 06 '26
Exactly, it stop the "blue" color and only adds pink (which is a much lighter and less visible color in food).
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u/Dubtrips May 06 '26
My friends still talk about when we were kids and my mum served us neon blue gravy on our roast dinner.
Still not sure exactly what she did to make it so vibrant, she just used leftover fried cabbage and onions. Complete accident. Delicious, though.
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u/wizardgradstudent May 06 '26
One time growing up my mom made some soup with turkey and rice. She tried to get creative and healthy with some fancy purple wild rice, but it bled the color into the entire soup and we ate purple dyed turkey 😂 still tasted delicious but it was so funny
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u/SomeDumbGamer May 06 '26
This is part of why orange/yellow/white carrots became more popular. Purple carrots make food look kind of gross lol
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u/dansssssss May 06 '26
So that's what the characters that cook bad put in their dish to show it's poisonous
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u/irish_horse_thief May 06 '26
Same as beetroot. I remember boiling some raw beetroot in a large pan, to pickle them later. When they were boiled and cooling in the pan, I reached in for one. I looked like i had a pink marigold glove on for the next couple of days.
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u/Robinsonirish May 06 '26
Purple is problematic because it turns everything purple. Try making a coleslaw, but use 1:1 purple and white cabbage, instead of 1:4, everything will become purple. It stains clothes, hands, cuttingboards, everything. Selectively moving away from purple carrots is probably not such a bad idea, purple is a bit of a pain in the arse, and has reasons beyond Dutch farmers wanting to turn them orange.
Beets are purple, and your piss, teeth, lips all turn purple as if you've been drinking way too much porter wine. Spill it somewhere? You will struggle getting it out.
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u/big_troublemaker May 06 '26
Minor note: We use plenty of beets raw and cooked, beet staining is a myth exacerbated by misleading advertising - extremely easy to wash off any surfaces and fabrics.
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u/Auzzie_almighty May 06 '26
Beets won’t stain much but they use a different chemical for color. Carrots use anthocyanins which are more likely to stain as a class of chemicals
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u/circuspeanut54 May 06 '26
Interesting -- I make my spouse roast and peel the beets we use for for pickling, because they stain my fingers for days and I can never get it off, especially the cuticles of the nails. Creates an interesting vampire effect though.
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u/chum-guzzling-shark May 06 '26
hold up. I thought purple was a royal color because it was so expensive. You tellin me peasants could have just been squeezing their carrots to get purple dye?!
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u/raknor88 May 06 '26
Is there a taste difference between the colors? Or do they all have the same taste?
Though I'm not sure if I'd ever be able to eat purple food without the worry that the food was bad
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u/a-tiberius May 06 '26
Have you ever had a cabbage? Or a red onion? There's plenty of purple food!
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u/CicadaFit9756 May 06 '26
Purple (also known as "blue") potatoes taste better than the others!
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u/NaturalAlfalfa May 06 '26
They do, but don't put them in a stew. Turns the whole thing this awful purple grey colour
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u/CicadaFit9756 May 06 '26
When I did get my hands on a few, I microwaved them (prick them a little first with a fork!) Tastes buttery without any butter. Yummm!
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u/JKrow75 May 06 '26
That’s a good question. There really isn’t a true flavor difference across most of them as in the signature or characteristics, but there is difference in flavor intensity within some of the colors which also depends on the soil they grow in and how much they are watered, etc.
Now, there are people who are trained enough and experienced enough to highlight and describe differences, but most of us cannot. Even those of us who have grown all these varieties and done so for many years find that most of them taste very similar and that’s okay. I myself can detect flavor differences among some but not among others.
But basically— The more nutrients in the soil, the healthier the soil, the more regular the watering schedule, then the more delicious they will taste, regardless of color or type.
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u/grip0matic May 06 '26
In my hometown there are people who plants purple carrots and the eggplants are very very distinct to the point that people would ask for them especially. The carrots basically taste the same, but the eggplants are way way better than the usual longed eggplant, they are spiky and basically round with patches of purple.
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u/JKrow75 May 06 '26
Eggplant, now there is a veggie/fruit that can vary widely! I seem to prefer the largest varieties and the smallest varieties, like the Casper and Egg types, small white ones that you don’t need to skin or brine. You can just throw them into your cooking. But I love the giant purple and the Aswad varieties, because to me their flavor characteristics are dramatically more intense than any of the regular grocery store types. The quality of eggplant very much affects the flavor profile of the dish you’re using it in.
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u/dev_ating May 06 '26
I think yes, but in a good way. I like purple carrots and tomatoes with spots of black or purple the best.
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u/Memory_Frosty May 06 '26
In the packs of multicolored carrots I have bought several times at the grocery stores, the purple and white carrots are not as sweet as orange carrots.
I grow red carrots in my backyard and let them reseed every year (and I don't have any orange carrots, and most likely my neighbors don't either) and those taste very close to orange carrots. Though the type of carrot they are, the red is just on the outside so after you peel them they're just orange carrots anyway. Haven't found a "true" red carrot where the red extends all the way through yet.
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u/falsevector May 06 '26
Not white please. I might confuse them for white radishes
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u/geodebug May 06 '26
My grocery store occasionally has multi-color roasted carrots on the salad bar. Fun and tasty.
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u/DANleDINOSAUR May 06 '26
I grew some last summer, made chicken noodle soup with them and they turned the broth an unappetizing purple.
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u/BloodshedTom May 06 '26
Yep, if carrots were still Purple, Yellow, Red & Blue they would be the coolest item on the food pyramid.
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u/Small-Meet9542 May 06 '26
i once had the orange carrot and was like the heck, it doesn’t taste like anything when i didn’t know how common the orange one is
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u/ClessxAlghazanth May 06 '26
Kintoki ninjin, red carrots are availible in Japan, mostly sold in new year's eve tho
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u/mongojob May 06 '26
We get them in our CSA, might be worth looking into one near you it if fits your needs. Ours is delivered and comes with bread and eggs!
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u/That-Spell-2543 May 06 '26
They have them at sprouts and Trader Joe’s. Bags of white purple and orange. Easy to get in California and Arizona
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u/ANS__2009 May 06 '26
Red/pink are found in India but only in winter. I do not know of any other places that have this so don't question
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 May 06 '26
I've had purple potatoes before. My conclusion was that they look neat but I don't like the flavor as much.
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u/iamunwhaticisme May 06 '26
Black carrots are still produced in Türkiye and used making "şalgam/shalgam" - a salty, fermented beverage which is a healthy and traditional beverage mostly consumed alongside kebabs.
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u/iamunwhaticisme May 06 '26
That is correct. Turnip radish is another ingredient, along with salt, water and bulgur flour.
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u/Itz-Doctor-Zandik May 06 '26
btw in Hindi Turnip is called Shalgam if I'm not wrong.
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u/iamunwhaticisme May 06 '26
Oh, didn't know that. Actually Şalgam is the name of that special turnip used for making that beverage. Don't know about the etymological origin though.
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u/Auzzie_almighty May 06 '26
Given both languages are in the Indo-European language family, the two are not unlikely to be related. But it could also just be millennia of trade across the regions
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u/godsslayer54 May 06 '26
During winter months they're sold in northern india too and are used to make 'kaali gaajar ka halwa' which is basically a sweetdish.
It's only available in the winter months though usually although you can also make it with normal carrots
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u/alghiorso May 06 '26
Interesting, in Persian shalgam means turnip
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u/iamunwhaticisme May 06 '26
Yeah, I just learned that as well. Turnip is also known as şalgam in India according to another Redditor's comment. The name comes from Persian but the beverage is Turkish origin and it's geographically indicated by European Union as "Adana (a southern district in Türkiye) Şalgamı".
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u/PresentFriendly3725 May 06 '26
What is it that Dutch people have with the color orange?
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u/Veensss May 06 '26
The Dutch king's surname innit
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u/Im_Chad_AMA May 06 '26
The original William of Orange wasn't our king, he was an army commander that was instrumental in the eighty years war of independence against the Spanish in the 16th and 17th centuries, which resulted in the birth of the Netherlands as an independent nation.
We only acquired a king (one of his descendants) in the early 1800s, after the Napoleonic era.
But yes, I'm pretty sure the orange carrots were made that way because of William of Orange.
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u/qu1ckbeam May 06 '26
Didn't you guys eat one of your kings?
Maybe it was a way to remind them they're edible.
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u/Dependent-Lynx-7277 May 06 '26
Nah, it was the ‘raadspensionaris’ (similar to a prime minister) Johan de Witt we supposedly ate
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u/Johannes_Keppler May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
And even that probably didn't actually happen.
Though the people that murderer him were called orangists - they wanted William the Third of Orange to lead the country.
After the brothers were murdered, their bodies were hung upside down onto a pole at the Groene Zoodje, which was an execution spot in Den Haag. Their bodies were horribly mutilated. People cut their hearts out and thrown at their faces. They cut off body parts, including tongues, ears and fingers. Pieces of clothing and body parts were sold to bystanders. A finger for 75 to 100 cents, an ear 125 cents to 150. A toe 50 cents, etc. Pieces of the brothers were shown in bars, etc.
Is it possible that some people took a little bite of them? Yes. But is that what happened to their entire bodies? No. Most of their body were – according to sources – either given to dogs or kept and traded as some relics.
https://www.visitingthedutchcountryside.com/history/did-dutch-people-eat-their-prime-ministers/
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u/Dependent-Lynx-7277 May 06 '26
Hence the supposedly
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u/Johannes_Keppler May 06 '26
They aren't even 'supposed' to have done this, it's just an apocryphal story. They where probably largely fed to the animals though, so they were eaten, just not by humans.
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u/Dependent-Lynx-7277 May 06 '26
Supposedly is an adverb meaning that something is believed, rumored, or reported to be true, often implying doubt, skepticism, or that the claim might be false. It indicates that the information is based on general assumption rather than confirmed fact. Synonyms include allegedly, purportedly, presumably, and ostensibly.
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u/WoodpeckerLogical859 May 06 '26
Wish it was because of the house of Orange, but it was because of their flavour & growing properties.
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u/altpirate May 06 '26
The guy who led the revolution that established the nation was count of a place called Orange (it's in France). Because his name was "of Orange" it became a rallying symbol for Dutch patriots and it's stuck around ever since.
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u/bunny_the-2d_simp May 06 '26
As a dutch person.. No clue why orange.
Next question..
Only time you see orange is kingsday
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u/Berkamin May 06 '26 edited May 09 '26
I wish markets sold the entire spectrum. Just for fun I would make food with every color of carrot.
EDIT: I found some of these at my favorite market.
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u/No-Salt7142 May 06 '26
Ironically, I live in the Netherlands and my local market does sell the entire spectrum. Ecological farms still produce a variety of colors.
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u/Jthumm May 06 '26
Do they taste different?
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u/No-Salt7142 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
Yes, but not massively different. Some are a little bit sweeter or softer. I'm guessing most of the difference in tastes comes from the way they are grown.
I definitely prefer the purple ones though.
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u/nitid_name May 06 '26
They're sold a lot of places, but usually with a markup. Trader Joe's and the other yuppie grocery stores always have bags of mixed color carrots around here.
If you have garden space, carrots are really easy to grow. The only thing is you have to either thin them out or be really deliberate about where you plant them. I had an uneven soil level and they all ended up grouped up in unruly packs. I pulled up several snarled masses of carrots. Since purple carrots stain your food, and they didn't grow straight, it was a bit tricky to use them for anything but stock.
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u/UtopistDreamer May 07 '26
Would also be a nifty way to get a multitude of carotens and antioxidants. And probably would have less need to import veggies from faraway lands since carrots grow pretty much everywhere.
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u/rose_reader May 06 '26
Omg, I really hope they chose orange because of the Orange Dutch rebellion. That would be so insane!
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u/Goomba_nr34 May 06 '26
they went with orange in reference to the guy leading our independence, William of Orange. We've kinda had a thing with that colour ever since.
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u/WoodpeckerLogical859 May 06 '26
Wish it was because of the house of Orange, but it was because of their flavour & growing properties. It's merely a coincidence that this started near the Dutch revolution against Habsburg/Spain.
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u/i4shaikh May 06 '26
Red are still most popular in india. Most prefer red over orange one here.
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u/dark-magma May 06 '26
what is the taste difference like?
are any other colors available besides orange and red?
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u/starlauncher May 06 '26
Red are crisp and juicy and sweet. Not soft and dull like orange. I missed them (just like Indian Mangoes and lychees and loquats and onions) for a very very long time. It’s been a long time though and my taste buds have gone to shit now.
I have also seen dark purple that almost looked black being very common.
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u/Fresh_Boysenberry576 May 06 '26
Orange carrots are soft?? Like after boiling you mean? But Red carrots don't lose their crunch when boiled? I'm confused.. I can't think of a less soft vegetable than a carrot (tje orange ones)
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u/OrneryChest7553 May 06 '26
I think that person meant red ones are more crisper ( I agree) and sweet. Although, both gets softs when being boiled. In local markets of India, red carrots are more available and cheaper too.
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u/Jigglepug99 May 06 '26
Uh, I couldn’t imagine a crispier carrot. The orange ones I buy snap like a popped balloon.
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u/i4shaikh May 06 '26
I agree with the other comment. I find red more crispy. The sound when take bite from fresh ones is loud enough to catch everyone's attention in the room. Gajar ka halwa is very popular dessert here india and it cannot be made with orange ones as they lack the sweetness and flavour. Orange is preferred for salads (not for me). I believe red is slightly more costly but it can differ based on location in india.
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u/Bromogeeksual May 06 '26
As an American, I find orange carrots (our default) to be a fairly sweet vegetable. I can't imagine a sweeter tasting carrot. I'd love to try it sometime!
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u/OrneryChest7553 May 06 '26
I never had orange carrots in my entire life so I decided to try it with utmost excitement but I met with disappointment. Now I stick to red ones. Do try them if you can.
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u/sndrtj May 06 '26
There's like a zillion varieties of carrot in any color. In general, the flavor has nothing to do with the color. You cannot make blanket statements when you've only ever had one variety.
I grow my own carrots - both orange and dark purple / almost black. The orange variety I use - nantes 2 - is far sweeter than the purple variety I use (deep purple f1).
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u/samurai_r May 06 '26
I remember red ones being the only carrots sold during my childhood days. Now I don't see them anymore. The red carrots are way more tasty than the dull orange ones.
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u/redlaWw May 06 '26
Though some of us call those "aubergine", which is a name that apparently comes ultimately from an ancient Dravidian word meaning "used to cure flatulence".
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u/CicadaFit9756 May 06 '26
You can find bags of small peeled "rainbow" carrots at Trader Joe's. I have some in my refrigerator right now! Also, when checking foods colored with "natural" colors, you'll often see purple carrots listed!
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u/Reese_Withersp0rk May 06 '26
Baby carrots were originally orange. The small peeled "rainbow" carrots we know today became popular after the trader, Joe, selectively bred them in the 20th—21st centuries.
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u/ScatLabs May 06 '26
People saying they don't eat genetically modified food know nothing about carrots
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u/DinReddet May 06 '26
Or practically all vegetables produced anyway.
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u/Metalmind123 May 06 '26
And virtually all fruit.
All of our grain...
Most of the animals...
Turns out we've beein doing this for thousands of years, because eating what nature provides on its own kinda sucks 90% of the time
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u/DinReddet May 06 '26
Not all vegetables are fruit but all fruit are vegetables and so are grains (from a botanical POV anyway), but yes, you're right. The organics we eat are all heaviliy engineered.
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u/Akagraffe May 06 '26
Not literally, ALL our current fruits and vegetables have been selected to resemble what they look like today.
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u/yjbtoss May 06 '26
Selective breeding is not really like today's genetic modification where labs are playing with DNA though.
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u/RipRapRob May 06 '26
Fun fact:
In Danish, carrots are called 'gulerødder': Literally 'Yellow roots'.
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u/DreamerRed May 07 '26
In Hungarian they are called "sárgarépa" which means "yellow beet". Yellow carrot brothers🤝
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u/CakeMadeOfHam May 06 '26
Hard to believe these used to be so full of seeds you could barely eat them
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u/mistRbit May 06 '26
I read somewhere that the orange carrots originate from Afghanistan, but were popularized by Dutch farmers.
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u/Mydoglikesladyboys May 06 '26
I mean white and purple are still popular in Europe. I had purple in my hello fresh last week. And white is my baby's favorite food
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u/Creative-Garden-6075 May 06 '26
Do they taste different?
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u/Mydoglikesladyboys May 06 '26
Purple doesn't taste any different to me, white has almost a buttery flavor to it
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u/Dem-Brushwaggs May 06 '26
Orange carrots date to at least the early 500s, if not earlier
While they became popular later on (largely in the 1700s, not the 1500s to 1600s as in the title of this thread), they did exist before then, just in smaller amounts
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u/YolkyFanClubPrez May 06 '26
TIL god made regular orange carrots and flaming hot carrots.
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u/Scypio95 May 06 '26
Something i like to do when i've got people come over and don't know what to do. Yes it's just mashed potatoes but purple
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u/whatthepfluke May 06 '26
Why did they choose orange?
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u/JR21K20 May 06 '26
William of Orange could tell you why but he’s been silent on the subject for a while now
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u/Johannes_Keppler May 06 '26
The flag still has an orange banner on holidays connected to the royal family.
Their family name is van Oranje - so 'from Orange'.
Orange was a sovereign principality in France (until the 18th century) their ancestors ruled over.
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u/Vergil-Monteiro-9965 May 06 '26
What is the difference? I’m legitimately curious I have no idea
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u/cinnamongirl14 May 06 '26
In my country there is a sweet dish made from Black carrots in the northern region. Also, we mostly eat purple and red carrots rather than orange ones.
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u/Away-Weekend-9333 May 06 '26
Was the orange the choice or was it just happenstance while choosing other traits
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u/DeliciousCrepes May 06 '26
Kroger sells a mix of red/yellow/purple/orange "baby" carrots in a bag. It's under their store organic brand also so it's not like they're rare.
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u/Joseph-1970 May 06 '26
I was this years old when I learned this. That is just crazy. And, is it what makes the color the beneficial part?
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u/qualityvote2 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
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