r/BatmanArkham • u/InitiativeInitial968 • Nov 21 '25
Serious Discussion/Question How would a government realistically respond to a chemical attack of this nature?
Seeing that Gotham is in New Jersey and in the game is pretty much an island, wouldn’t the winds be spreading the cloudburst throughout the state?
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u/Automatic_Milk1478 Nov 21 '25
That’s not to mention Scarecrow’s message threatening future attacks. I like Arkham Knight’s Scarecrow feels very adept at inspiring fear and panic in the general public even without the toxin. All it tools was a few ounces of toxin and speech to send the entire city running.
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u/PsychicSidekikk419 Nov 21 '25
Scarecrow threatened to blow up the entire city if there was any outside interference though, right? Wouldn't that prevent the military from acting hastily?
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u/stac7 Nov 21 '25
Yeah pretty much
He is a psychotic super villain so I don't think the military wants to risk that.
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u/stac7 Nov 21 '25
I don't remember the military trying to do anything at any part of the game but I absolutely remember the Gotham Police trying to do something around Ace Chemicals
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u/Unordinary_Donkey Nov 21 '25
The game takes place over a single night. There is no way they are gathering the troops and moving in that quick. The best they would do in that time is control points of access to the city while gathering for a full scale response.
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u/fusion_reactor3 Nov 22 '25
This. I’m sure if it was spread across a week or something, the military would show up to play, but it takes a lot longer than a single night to get any sort of plan set up, let alone the troops to actually execute the plan
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u/stac7 Nov 21 '25
Good point, but that also asks another question tho
If they know Scarecrow is gonna do it whether or not they intervene, is it really worth sending in men? They might die and accomplish nothing so they would most likely just hope and rely on Batman, and if it takes too long or if Batman actually dies, they might send men
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u/Extra_Wave Nov 22 '25
I remember one comment (either youtube or reddit) explaining how basically all the shit the gotham villains did that day would be enough to flag them as traitors and give them the capital punishment
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u/Cool_Peanut_9070 Nov 22 '25
The whole point of the bomb sidequest was to prevent the government or anyone else (like the Justice League) from just coming in and steamrolling the militia.
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u/notShek Nov 21 '25
the government would call the justice league i think
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u/TheBlackTemplar125 Napoleon Bonaparte (Emperor of Insanity) Nov 21 '25
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u/PistonPusher2009 Officer Balls Nov 21 '25
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they wouldn't, the government is stupid.
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u/Audi_R8_Gaming Audi R8 V10 Plus | Your average bone fancar Nov 21 '25
Say that again?
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u/Audi_R8_Gaming Audi R8 V10 Plus | Your average bone fancar Nov 21 '25
Yeah, why doesn't the government call in the Justice League? What are they, stupid?
Same question can be asked for Batman.
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u/candianbastard Nov 21 '25
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u/Brekldios Nov 21 '25
yeah but the people of gotham still pay taxes, you think the government doesn't love taxes?
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u/Prit717 Nov 21 '25
I still don't get why they couldn't intervene in No Man's Land
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u/Paxxlee Nov 21 '25
Basically it was because Gotham was so bad before the earthquake that the government thought it would be better to just nuke it from orbit. But, because that would be too negative, a quarantine was easier to sell.
Edit: If you mean JL, they did help somewhat. Superman learned a lesson. Batman told them to fuck off.
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u/Prit717 Nov 21 '25
I suppose I meant both, but that is helpful thank you!
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u/Paxxlee Nov 21 '25
Great!
Also, I believe there was some kind of plot by Lex Luthor, that he was trying to buy property in Gotham while lobbying the government in an effort to stop them helping Gotham.
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u/M-V-D_256 Nov 21 '25
Heavy Lobbying from scratch convinced senators that Gotham is a money sink.
The plan was to leave only the super villains inside, let them sort themselves out, and like 5 years later renovate and let the citizens go back (for higher rent I assume)
The only reason they didn't flatten Gotham was because people were still in there
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u/ImperialSattech Nov 21 '25
Find out where Scarecrow is in the city and drone strike him.
If they can't find his precise location just carpet bomb Gotham.
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u/InitiativeInitial968 Nov 21 '25
This don’t Iraq
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u/WheresWeeezy Nov 21 '25
1985 Philadelphia would like a word.
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u/ImperialSattech Nov 22 '25
Would the game be better or worse if Scarecrow was actually a left-wing black nationalist.
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u/Clear_Adhesiveness60 Nov 21 '25
SEND 300 TRILLION DOLLARS TO ISRAEL RIGHT NOW
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u/InitiativeInitial968 Nov 21 '25
I like how I said no humor welcome but unironically the government would actually do this
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u/Necessary-Prune9727 Richard Nixon Nov 22 '25
And take way too long to actually give money to the victims
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u/Sombra_WP0 Nov 22 '25
US would need 300 trillions to solve this
150 to Israel, 150 to Argentina
and blame the Liberals36
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u/Pinkcokecan R.I.P Kevin Conroy & Arleen Sorkin Nov 22 '25
But then the clouds would have nightmares:(
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u/TheGuyFromTheFuture Nov 22 '25
Who needs a fan when you can just call Superman and ask him to use his Super Breath?
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u/No_Display_9425 Nov 21 '25
If only there were some group you could call to deal with this
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u/InitiativeInitial968 Nov 21 '25
Like a gang of able bodied people 🤔
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u/ChosenCourier13 Two Guns bitch! Nov 21 '25
One that stands for justice, perhaps.
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u/SirHitThathoe Nov 21 '25
1st - the government would resort to utilizing all of its resources: state - federal. To employ as many employees as possible to the area. 2nd - the resources would suck off all the affected individuals to limit any collateral damage. 5th - I simply wouldn’t let it happen.
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u/NintendoNerd117 Custom (Something Inappropriate) Nov 21 '25
im a pretty big fan of step 2 i cant lie
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u/MarvinLikesApples Nah... i'm Woman Nov 21 '25
This is just another Thursday in the US I’m not sure if they would even put state resources towards this.
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u/RadagastTheBrownNote Am I stupid? Nov 21 '25
They’d probably argue back and forth, blaming the other side for some sort of failure to prevent it and contain it.
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u/AxiesOfLeNeptune Yah... i'm someone who is proud of themself, Dick. Nov 21 '25
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u/Pinkcokecan R.I.P Kevin Conroy & Arleen Sorkin Nov 22 '25
Me reading the Harley Quinn fart comic
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12 MILLION TO IS- i mean uh..call trump of course.
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u/Background_Degree615 Nov 21 '25
*billion
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u/Tall_Buff_Introvert Nov 21 '25
The exact same way batman did. Destroy the source of the toxin, then cleanse it. Nature always wins. We'd probably all die
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u/Notagreatnameo Nov 21 '25
Blame it on an unrelated country that they want to invade and then cut aid to the survivors after 2 weeks.
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u/WhiteSepulchre Jonkler's jonking jerking Jadonka Jonkling Nov 21 '25
Use it as an excuse to bomb Venezuela or Iran.
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u/perfect_deception Nov 21 '25
Realistic they would pass some bills to increase government power and print trillions of money to try to solve this
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u/PsychoDrifter777 There's no such thing as a "batman" Nov 21 '25
I’d crosspost this to r/Arkham if I were you, it’s basically what this place is supposed to be. But yeah the government would realistically be VERY up n’ arms about something like this.
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u/quarante-et-onze Nov 21 '25
They would be like "cough cough im dying of a chemical attack cough cough uhhg"
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u/Keito_Kest Nov 21 '25
Considering that air filters are useless and that the evil ahh cloud of fear doesnt dissipate I dont think they can do much about it inmediately except just pull a No Mans Land and evaquate Gotham. It should be noted that the cloud is far heavier than air, as it stays close to the ground, so I dont think the wind would carry it far, but yeah all of gotham may be lost.
After that who knows, considering this is the DC maybe ARGUS develops a plan to deal with it, or they just find a way.
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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 Nov 21 '25
The current US government would lie about it, claim it never happened, then blame immigrants and the "radical left". Then arrest Jimmy Kimmel.
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u/ka1n77 Nov 21 '25
They would get everybody in the city to do one large coordinated booty cheek clapping and hopefully blow it up into space.
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u/Commercial-Ship-8784 Killer C#ck Nov 21 '25
They would probably blame it on someone they don't like, catch them, and tell the public, "Look, we caught them, we'll punish them." I don't think they would solve the problem.
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u/ResponsibleOpinion61 Miles, we are in a userflair now Nov 21 '25
realistically the current administration would bomb the island
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u/HollyBlocky Nov 21 '25
with the attack's chemicals exposed the government could use a power winch to trigger a controlled explosion
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u/DaggerQ_Wave Nov 21 '25
If they weren’t able to clear it up through conventional means, Probably nuclear strike or carpet bomb Gotham after initiating a quarantine.
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u/ChairmanNoobnut Nov 21 '25
I dunno, the real question is, what about the Batmobile, can it be used during this cloudburst?
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u/SimonMJRpl Nov 21 '25
Realistically martial law declared with National Guard, Army and every 2 letters agency deployed into the city
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u/Lanarde Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
they would call superman, or the suicide squad nowadays, cause they are also more familiar with the villains themselves as well
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u/Crimsonmaddog44 Erect Man, Man who is Erect Nov 21 '25
Trump would probably drop a bomb on every place he suspects Scarecrow to be in. Probably take out anyone he holds dear as well.
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u/Mrmamamega Nov 21 '25
what do you want them to do? first of all its Gotham second its engulfed in scarecrow's gas i wouldn't set a foot in there
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u/ShreddedCommie Nov 22 '25
If its the US government, they would probably
a) Bomb a middle eastern country
b) 10 Trillion to Israel
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u/TheGuyFromTheFuture Nov 22 '25
They’d call in the Justice League, and then the game would be over in like ten minutes tops.
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u/ControllerPlayer06 who the FUCK am i? Nov 22 '25
They wouldn’t call the Justice League as they are stupid
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u/would_you_kindlyy Nov 21 '25
Depends on the government. E.g in the UK it would probably follow CBRN protocol.
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u/Ricardokx Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25
If Trump is the president then the government will absolutely do nothing because Gotham would be a blue city.
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u/Preeng Nov 21 '25
People at each level of government would say it is to be taken care of at some other level of government. Problem solved..
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u/Fidget02 Nov 21 '25
The US federal government would have tracked and shot down the mass of Militia helicopters beelining it to Gotham before they passed Florida. There must’ve been hundreds of carrier vehicles brining in men and drones and equipment from SOUTH AMERICA and they’re just able to sneak up on Gotham and set up shop? The logistics overhead to accomplish that is insane, especially over a single night and over US land/waters.
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u/Clerkinator Nov 21 '25
They would blame immigrants or something stupid before actually helping out the people affected
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u/One_Meaning416 Nov 21 '25
Honestly it is surprising that the Joker hasn't been given the death penalty after all the shit he's done, there is no way an insanity plea would get him spared after the 20th mass murder. Batman is not at fault for him it is the Gotham justice system.
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u/Ecstatic-Swimming680 Nov 22 '25
Probably quarantine it and call it a day. Gotham was bad enough without an apocalyptic level of chemical warfare.
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u/Poopydoopyhead123 Nov 22 '25
Here's a better question: why the fuck didn't batman just ask the justice league for help? Is he fucking stupid?
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u/Aggressive_Manner429 Officer Balls BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Nov 22 '25
“Gotham, this is your final warning” is as far as it would go before every single form of law enforcement feasible in the city, state, maybe even the entire country found scarecrow’s ass and either arrested him or straight up killed him considering his threat was literally chemical domestic terrorism. As for the militia, they wouldn’t even be able to get their forces there in the first place, never mind all those tanks lmao
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u/Seinfeel Nov 22 '25
By setting up a perimeter to keep everyone in I mean out, away from danger obviously
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u/Carrotsinthesalad Nov 22 '25
The government would enter a shutdown because half of congress would push for military intervention and the other half would push for a 1 trillion dollar pay cut to Medicare and call it the “Clean Gotham Bill (CGB)” or something like that
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u/grimlock-greg Nov 22 '25
Good ending - military control, compleat quatenteen, and all supervillains killed
Bad ending - protocol ten with government funding.
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u/reepa1 Nov 22 '25
Imagine a large part of the populace being told x will result in y which can lead to all sorts of health problems including death. Than they call it a hoax, fake, just a cold. While millions have died.
Something slightly worse would be catastrophic. Hahahhaha
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u/SuicidalSmoke R.I.P Kevin Conroy Nov 22 '25
Man can I just say I love the creative decision of Joker living on rent free in Batman's head. It's an absolute pleasure watching them interact as Batman slowly loses it and not only is it a big deal as far as subplots go, but it also makes up for his death at the end of City, in a way that allegorically explicits the Joker's hold over Gotham and Bruce even from the afterlife and to top even that, it also ties in with the big ending perfectly. Such an impeccable masterpiece of a video game.
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Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
As others said its unlikely things would even get to this point. The moment something like the diner scene happens, I'm pretty sure the Military or FBI would be deployed. The moment a completely normal cop gets "brainwashed" into murdering innocent civilians in broad daylight, EVERYONE is getting involvedz Scarecrow would be arrested or just flat out executed for crimes against humanity.
Assuming things do go as planned and Scarecrow has access to a real world version of the Arkham Knight and his militia, well shit. Since Batman wouldnt exist, I'd presume the government would immediately call for the Justice League to stop this. If not that then whatever other individual hero thats available (flash, superman, etc). If no heroes are available the govt would likely drone strike the fuck out of the AK and whatever zone Scarecrows been spotted in.
Not sure how much theyd care about casualties here since theres no civilians in the city afaik, just criminals. Im pretty sure the government would be absolutely fine with missile strikes and large scale destruction if it meant the removal of a literal city wide threat. The criminals that are around in the city are rapists, murdererous psychos, literal terrorists, etc. All of them are pretty deserving of death, and if you remove Batman or any of the batfam theres no one to worry about besides the police
Best case scenario the govt evacuates any and all remaining police officers, missiles and drone strikes on any potential threats in the city. If that doesnt work and the toxin spreads or scarecrow/cronies try to leave, full scale quarantine of the city and potential nukes sent to fully eliminate the threat. I doubt we'd even need anything close to nukes here since I doubt AK or anyone in the arkhamverse can survive the missile strikes our military is sending. Hell depending on how serious the govt is they could probably end the threat in an hour, making Batman look useless. Once again depends how quickly they are willing to escalate it. Once again I do believe that if the govt realizes how awful the remaining people are inside, they will be fine with just blowing them up. Especially Scarecrow, who attempts to willingy kill 9-10 million people in Gotham.
TLDR: Scarecrow and anyone left alive in Gotham city are literal monsters and clearly deserving of death to the US govt. Remaining police force gets airlifted, before large scale missile strikes and bombs are dropped to eliminate the AK and scarecrow threat. Full quarantine is put in place with all exits blocked off fully, surrounded. If threat isnt removed, nukes get sent, or a team of highly specialized operatives are ordered to eliminate scarecrow.
Govt may also use other tactics like convincing the villains to turn on each other, or offering one of the villians something to kill Scarecrow. Whatever will end the threat with the least amount of civilians and military personnel at risk
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u/doblecuadrado_FGE Nov 22 '25
The same way the government reacted to an alien invasion in Avengers (2012)
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u/_Stytchless_ Nov 22 '25
Call the justice league, with all of them together they could probably stop it if they made a plan. Is the government stupid or something?
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u/montgomery2016 Bye? As in byesexual? Nov 22 '25
They orchestrated it to distract the people from the Epstein files
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